New Valve Steam Controller image appears

http://www.valvetime.net/threads/steam-client-beta-update-reveals-latest-steam-controller-design.245634/

This looks great, though, i wish they used an 8 line spread to indicate the pressure points.

Also still not sure about the ergonomics of the thing. Looks unconfortable. But prototype is prototype.

Adding those 2 would make this awesome.

Yuck.

Dead on Arrival.

Every day it deviates more from original design and is becoming the 360 controller. They are trying so hard to force the trackpad things. It's never going to emulate a mouse for aiming, and a trackpad is never going to emulate a stick for movement. Should have just come out with a nunchuck and a mouse with platform that can be placed on your lap.

why?

There's an analog stick right there.

And while the r-trackpad can't fully emulate mouse movement, it's a far better option than analog.

Has for games that make much more use of mouse, like strategy games and cprgs, that's where the both trackpads come into place.

Not perfect, obviously pure K/M is better for games that are better with it, but this controller is a shapping up to be a better alternative to dualshock and xbox ones

I still wish they had stuck to the original design :-/

it never had a chance

Everything from the original design is there, minus the 4 button pad at the center.

But to be fair, the original looked even more unconfortable, and had no analog stick. Provided that it's a trackpad on the right and not a d-pad (probably, since it's still ha s a circle around it), it's not that different at all.

@deadline-zero0 said:

@charizard1605 said:

I still wish they had stuck to the original design :-/

Everything from the original design is there, minus the 4 button pad at the center.

But to be fair, the original looked even more unconfortable, and had no analog stick. Provided that it's a trackpad on the right and not a d-pad (probably, since it's still ha s a circle around it), it's not that different at all.

The issue is the new design appears to be far more cramped than the original one, which had a sort of elegance to it.

Look forward to trying it...

....so much hate already, and so little hands on. But I guess thats the common approach to anything different.

@charizard1605 said:

@deadline-zero0 said:

@charizard1605 said:

I still wish they had stuck to the original design :-/

Everything from the original design is there, minus the 4 button pad at the center.

But to be fair, the original looked even more unconfortable, and had no analog stick. Provided that it's a trackpad on the right and not a d-pad (probably, since it's still ha s a circle around it), it's not that different at all.

The issue is the new design appears to be far more cramped than the original one, which had a sort of elegance to it.

Ok, but i don't find the original to be "elegant".

@deadline-zero0 said:

@charizard1605 said:

@deadline-zero0 said:

@charizard1605 said:

I still wish they had stuck to the original design :-/

Everything from the original design is there, minus the 4 button pad at the center.

But to be fair, the original looked even more unconfortable, and had no analog stick. Provided that it's a trackpad on the right and not a d-pad (probably, since it's still ha s a circle around it), it's not that different at all.

The issue is the new design appears to be far more cramped than the original one, which had a sort of elegance to it.

Ok, but i don't find the to be "elegant".

Lol, I guess they are just differing opinions on something none of us has really had the chance to go hands on with yet. Maybe the final release will put all doubts to rest, I hope it does. Whenever it releases.

Yeah, me too. It looked nice (IMO) and seemed to be very innovative (versus other controllers).

Fair enough. Oh, and it'll release soon

alongside Half Life 3, Steam machines and the Steam OS hahahaha

lol nope. I'm willing to bet the vast majority of pc gamers will stick to kb/m for the genres that are good for it like strategy and CSGO, and 360/DS4 for everything else.

I've tried aiming with trackpads, you can even do it on ps4 on Warthunder. It's serviceable, but nothing revolutionary.

I'll probably get one just to see what it's like. If I don't like it, I can just continue using KB & M / X360 (Or XBone controller if I get one).

gross

The sad part is its still better for fps than fumblesticks and autoaim.

I'm not saying those wh prefer K/M will stop using it. I know i won't.

The point is, many pc gamers like myself do use gamepads, and the Steam controller should be able to do everything a DS/XBcontroller can, plus abit more.

In addition to the normal 4 face buttons, 4 should buttons and left analog, it has

- 2 back buttons

- the left trackpad is clickable, with a 4 way spread from the looks of it, to either use has a d-pad in normal gamepad games, or has a way to use a mouse like tool for games that need it.

- the right trackpad is closer to a mouse than a traditional stick, so while not has good has the usual tool, obviously, it's still a better option than an analog, specially for third person shooters, which many pc gamers play wiht controllers.

- fully customizable. While the xbox and playstation pads use fixed layouts, with a 2 or 3 alternatives, the Steam controller is meant to be identified has a K/M, therefore being fully changeable. Including, like i said, the L-trackpad to d-pad switch.

Has i said in the OP, if the ergonomics are well made, this controller has hufe potential. All the advantages on a normal gamepad, minus some particular games that need 2 analogs like Brothers: AToTS, plus it's own added benefits.

I just don't get it. Wonder if I can connect my ps4 controller to play on PC yes I hate keyboard and mouse, it only works for Civilization and Sim City

You can send in pretty much any controller and have paddles installed. I've seen xbox controllers with 4 paddles on the back or 4 buttons. The reason console makers don't make that standard is because the controller has to be usable for all ages. Say when the owner of the system wants to play a game with his kid, it's harder for them to use buttons on the back. Sony talked about this when they mocked up huge version of dualshock to simulate what it's like for a kid to use a normal controller.

The left trackpad would not be able to compete with a traditional dpad, I'd even take the old 360 dpad over using that for fighting games. A lot of the buttons on this controller look like trash tbh, especially the shoulders. It's prototype though, so that could change.

I don't see how the right trackpad demolishes analog or is much closer to mouse aiming. Again, sony already beat them to the punch, you can use the trackpad on Warthunder and sometimes I did use it when I played, but it wasn't a clear improvement or much worse. It was mixed results. Other games make use of it as well. I couldn't imagine playing socom with a trackpad though. I imagine it would be a game by game preference, I can see it being good for RTS like you said but I would probably still prefer KB/M for that.

You would think the trackpad would be better for doing 180s, but people do that 360 and 180 no scope crap with no problem at higher sensitivities on console.

Being customizable is cool, but I rather not do the work the devs should be doing. Give me some alternates, and let me play. Some games, like Warthunder are heavily customizable on console including deadzones and acceleration.

This controller looks like it would work for very specific situations, and not a replacement for what people are using now. I can see using this if you want to play through the story on an RTS or point and click game while sitting on your couch. I think people will still be using a 360 or DS4 pad to play Dark Souls and whatnot.

Man, they had a great controller at first, but now they are just ruining it.

This will not make me change from my 360's controller. It really is the best controller ever made.

@charizard1605: Agreed they should of kept the touch screen

Can't wait to see how this turns out, because - for once - Valve seems all over the place over what to do about the controller.

@deadline-zero0:

I used to be exited for the hardware ideas Valve has going on...then I realized nothing they are making will ever come out.

it's a nice improvement, but I'm still not interested in it.

I am eager to try one out.

Eeh like most Controllers I will atleast give it a shot. Might be good, I mean so far the controller of this gen that impressed me the most have been the Wii U Pro Controller.

So lets see how this does when it arrives.

They should have tried to engineer a device that allows accurate K/M gaming in a slouchy position....

Why do they feel the need to create a controller? just create the steam machine and bundle it with MS Windows controller (360 controller) and call it a day.

If you're playing on PC, I doubt you're using a controller that much. Two of the most popular games are LoL and Dota and I don't see those kids using a controller lol.

ill just stick to my x360 controller or x1. neat thing ms added is x1 controller can connect to pc with mini usb

#awesome

@deadline-zero0 said:

@charizard1605 said:

I still wish they had stuck to the original design :-/

Everything from the original design is there, minus the 4 button pad at the center.

But to be fair, the original looked even more unconfortable, and had no analog stick. Provided that it's a trackpad on the right and not a d-pad (probably, since it's still ha s a circle around it), it's not that different at all.

Every time I see that it looks like someone accidentally put all the controls on the bottom of the controller rather than the top.

@enzyme36:

Movie fans and gaming community is full of drama queens. Don't worry, it's just awesome to hate everything in the beginning. That's what cool kids always do.