New sales numbers in... HOLY SMOKES!... Vita has FLOPPED!

It's official. Sony will have to make a pact with Satan (aka. Bobby Kotick) and put Call of Duty on Vita.nervmeister

I don't understand why people would be happy with this. Dedicated game machines will probably cease to exist in 5 years time. Notyourbuddy

That will never happen.

As long as there are casuals who don't know any better and children who need a virtual babysitter, there will always be dedicated game consoles.

Maybe not for the hardcore audience, though.

Can't say I'm surprised.

I don't really see any negative in this for Sony, for all we know they shipped out 100k second and week and sold 70k to consumers.

If thats they case a lot of posters in this thread will be looking more stupid than usual.

I don't really see any negative in this for Sony, for all we know they shipped out 100k second and week and sold 70k to consumers.

If thats they case a lot of posters in this thread will be looking more stupid than usual.

rasengan2552

It's impossible to track the exact amount sold to consumers.

Companies only have a record of the number shipped, and honestly that's all that matters to Sony.

I think PS Vita did have incredible potential, it's just put down by these incredibly stupid design decisions and price points.

didn't 3ds have super slow sales, so how about we wait

[QUOTE="Notyourbuddy"]I don't understand why people would be happy with this. Dedicated game machines will probably cease to exist in 5 years time. peterw007

That will never happen.

As long as their are casuals who don't know any better and children who need a virtual babysitter, there will always be dedicated game consoles.

Maybe not for the hardcore audience, though.

Those PSVita sales are very good for start......and it looks that PS Vita first week sales beat 3DS first week sales.PSVita have sell 321,407 units in first two days of release + Week sales 72,479....and we have 393,886 in first week.3DS have sell 371,326 in first weak.PS Vita first week sales have beat 3DS first week sales.That is very good for start.........AtariKidX

didn't 3ds have super slow sales, so how about we wait

Chris_Williams

Agreed but keep in mind that Vita can't reasonable drop in price like the 3DS did.

Those PSVita sales are very good for start......and it looks that PS Vita first week sales beat 3DS first week sales.PSVita have sell 321,407 units in first two days of release + Week sales 72,479....and we have 393,886 in first week.3DS have sell 371,326 in first weak.PS Vita first week sales have beat 3DS first week sales.That is very good for start.........AtariKidX

[QUOTE="AtariKidX"]Those PSVita sales are very good for start......and it looks that PS Vita first week sales beat 3DS first week sales.PSVita have sell 321,407 units in first two days of release + Week sales 72,479....and we have 393,886 in first week.3DS have sell 371,326 in first weak.PS Vita first week sales have beat 3DS first week sales.That is very good for start.........Kaszilla

[QUOTE="peterw007"]

[QUOTE="Notyourbuddy"]I don't understand why people would be happy with this. Dedicated game machines will probably cease to exist in 5 years time. Notyourbuddy

That will never happen.

As long as their are casuals who don't know any better and children who need a virtual babysitter, there will always be dedicated game consoles.

Maybe not for the hardcore audience, though.

[QUOTE="AtariKidX"]Those PSVita sales are very good for start......and it looks that PS Vita first week sales beat 3DS first week sales.PSVita have sell 321,407 units in first two days of release + Week sales 72,479....and we have 393,886 in first week.3DS have sell 371,326 in first weak.PS Vita first week sales have beat 3DS first week sales.That is very good for start.........Kaszilla

For a second language his English isn't bad bro.

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

didn't 3ds have super slow sales, so how about we wait

commonfate

Agreed but keep in mind that Vita can't reasonable drop in price like the 3DS did.

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

didn't 3ds have super slow sales, so how about we wait

commonfate

Agreed but keep in mind that Vita can't reasonable drop in price like the 3DS did.

[QUOTE="peterw007"]

[QUOTE="Notyourbuddy"]I don't understand why people would be happy with this. Dedicated game machines will probably cease to exist in 5 years time. Notyourbuddy

That will never happen.

As long as their are casuals who don't know any better and children who need a virtual babysitter, there will always be dedicated game consoles.

Maybe not for the hardcore audience, though.

You have to remember that children have incredibly short attention spans.

Cheap smartphone games might divert them for a couple of minutes, but sooner or later they will get bored of it.

More full-fledged experiences -- games that last you 20+ hours on a dedicated gaming console -- consume more of the child's attention, so they're more useful both in the eyes of the parents and the kids.

I know little kids who have played Pokemon Black and White for hundreds of hours. I don't know anyone who plays Angry Birds for even a mere fraction of that time.

why can't people post things on their main accountDiviniuz

[QUOTE="rasengan2552"]

I don't really see any negative in this for Sony, for all we know they shipped out 100k second and week and sold 70k to consumers.

If thats they case a lot of posters in this thread will be looking more stupid than usual.

peterw007

It's impossible to track the exact amount sold to consumers.

Companies only have a record of the number shipped, and honestly that's all that matters to Sony.

[QUOTE="Kaszilla"]

[QUOTE="AtariKidX"]Those PSVita sales are very good for start......and it looks that PS Vita first week sales beat 3DS first week sales.PSVita have sell 321,407 units in first two days of release + Week sales 72,479....and we have 393,886 in first week.3DS have sell 371,326 in first weak.PS Vita first week sales have beat 3DS first week sales.That is very good for start.........Kaze_no_Mirai

[QUOTE="Notyourbuddy"][QUOTE="peterw007"]

That will never happen.

As long as their are casuals who don't know any better and children who need a virtual babysitter, there will always be dedicated game consoles.

Maybe not for the hardcore audience, though.PurpleMan5000

Holy doom and gloom, Batman! So much negativity in one thread makes me wanna slit my wrists.

Chill out, last i checked Nintendo didn't start selling 3DS' until they decided to throw a billion dollars at it. Vita will have its day.

didn't 3ds have super slow sales, so how about we wait

Chris_Williams

Those numbers are terrible!

But its Japan, as if that's an indicator over how something will do here. For example, the Xbox.

[QUOTE="peterw007"]

[QUOTE="rasengan2552"]

I don't really see any negative in this for Sony, for all we know they shipped out 100k second and week and sold 70k to consumers.

If thats they case a lot of posters in this thread will be looking more stupid than usual.

CanYouDiglt

It's impossible to track the exact amount sold to consumers.

Companies only have a record of the number shipped, and honestly that's all that matters to Sony.

Let's say Sony ships 5000 systems to Amazon, 20000 to Best Buy, and 50000 to Gamestop.

Sony gets their profit from those orders regardless if they actually sell to consumers or not.

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But if they don't sell, the distributors will order less systems in the future, which may result in less yearly profits for Sony.

Units sold does matter to an extent, but what really matters is the distributors and how much they buy.

It's all about keeping the distributors happy...not how much actually sells to consumers.

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

didn't 3ds have super slow sales, so how about we wait

Crossel777

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

didn't 3ds have super slow sales, so how about we wait

Crossel777

Holy doom and gloom, Batman! So much negativity in one thread makes me wanna slit my wrists.

Chill out, last i checked Nintendo didn't start selling 3DS' until they decided to throw a billion dollars at it. Vita will have its day.

Basinboy

Playstation Family beats Wii60 once again.

Nike_Air

[QUOTE="Crossel777"][QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

didn't 3ds have super slow sales, so how about we wait

rasengan2552

i think this is actually a good thing. maybe now sony will lower the Vita price to $179 within a couple months like nintendo didLP4EVA2005

But Sony's already taking a loss with every Vita unit sold.

The last thing they can do is drop the price...then Sony would be bleeding money.

Let's say Sony ships 5000 systems to Amazon, 20000 to Best Buy, and 50000 to Gamestop.

Sony gets their profit from those orders regardless if they actually sell to consumers or not.

-

But if they don't sell, the distributors will order less systems in the future, which may result in less yearly profits for Sony.

Units sold does matter to an extent, but what really matters is the distributors and how much they buy.

It's all about keeping the distributors happy...not how much actually sells to consumers.

peterw007

[QUOTE="LP4EVA2005"]i think this is actually a good thing. maybe now sony will lower the Vita price to $179 within a couple months like nintendo didpeterw007

But Sony's already taking a loss with every Vita unit sold.

The last thing they can do is drop the price...then Sony would be bleeding money.

[QUOTE="peterw007"]

Let's say Sony ships 5000 systems to Amazon, 20000 to Best Buy, and 50000 to Gamestop.

Sony gets their profit from those orders regardless if they actually sell to consumers or not.

-

But if they don't sell, the distributors will order less systems in the future, which may result in less yearly profits for Sony.

Units sold does matter to an extent, but what really matters is the distributors and how much they buy.

It's all about keeping the distributors happy...not how much actually sells to consumers.

Eponique

My point with that comment is that Sony only cares about shipped numbers and doesn't bother to track the number sold to consumers (if that even is somehow possible).

They use the number of orders that distributors send as a reflection of how the market is doing.

If the distributors order less, then something is wrong. If the distributors order more, then they're doing things right.

Sony themselves doesn't really care about the number sold to consumers...because that's not how they make their money.

That's what I'm trying to say.

>.> How bout we wait? mrmusicman247

lol...wait for what? the sales are horrible. and the thing just launched. yea maybe they might reach a hundred thousand next month but the thing is doing terrible out the gate. there's no excuse for that...wait for what lol? it's bombing...the FN PSP beat it in sales...WAIT FOR WHAT?? lol

[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"][QUOTE="peterw007"]

It's impossible to track the exact amount sold to consumers.

Companies only have a record of the number shipped, and honestly that's all that matters to Sony.

peterw007

Let's say Sony ships 5000 systems to Amazon, 20000 to Best Buy, and 50000 to Gamestop.

Sony gets their profit from those orders regardless if they actually sell to consumers or not.

-

But if they don't sell, the distributors will order less systems in the future, which may result in less yearly profits for Sony.

Units sold does matter to an extent, but what really matters is the distributors and how much they buy.

It's all about keeping the distributors happy...not how much actually sells to consumers.

[QUOTE="Eponique"][QUOTE="peterw007"]

Let's say Sony ships 5000 systems to Amazon, 20000 to Best Buy, and 50000 to Gamestop.

Sony gets their profit from those orders regardless if they actually sell to consumers or not.

-

But if they don't sell, the distributors will order less systems in the future, which may result in less yearly profits for Sony.

Units sold does matter to an extent, but what really matters is the distributors and how much they buy.

It's all about keeping the distributors happy...not how much actually sells to consumers.

peterw007

My point with that comment is that Sony only cares about shipped numbers and doesn't bother to track the number sold to consumers (if that even is somehow possible).

They use the number of orders that distributors send as a reflection of how the market is doing.

If the distributors order less, then something is wrong. If the distributors order more, then they're doing things right.

Sony themselves doesn't really care about the number sold to consumers...because that's not how they make their money.

That's what I'm trying to say.

[QUOTE="LP4EVA2005"]i think this is actually a good thing. maybe now sony will lower the Vita price to $179 within a couple months like nintendo didpeterw007

But Sony's already taking a loss with every Vita unit sold.

The last thing they can do is drop the price...then Sony would be bleeding money.

[QUOTE="peterw007"]

[QUOTE="Eponique"] Yes, shipped numbers are ultimately the most important thing for Sony, but that doesn't mean consumer sales don't matter. That would be like saying your grades are important to you, but you won't do your homework or you won't study for your exam or you won't listen in class. Your grades are pretty much a reflection on how well you did those things, and that's the same for shipped and sold.Eponique

My point with that comment is that Sony only cares about shipped numbers and doesn't bother to track the number sold to consumers (if that even is somehow possible).

They use the number of orders that distributors send as a reflection of how the market is doing.

If the distributors order less, then something is wrong. If the distributors order more, then they're doing things right.

Sony themselves doesn't really care about the number sold to consumers...because that's not how they make their money.

That's what I'm trying to say.

NPD / Media Create / etc. are fundamentally flawed when you take into account all of the outlets that NPD / Media Create / etc. doesn't bother to track, primarily the entire digital distribution market.

They're more like "guesstimates," instead of being a 100% accurate reflection on how many units are actually sold to customers.

Only individual retailers know how much of their inventory they sell...and I believe that's something they don't share publicly (I could be wrong).

But isn't the purpose of any publicly traded company is to keep its investors happy?

[QUOTE="peterw007"]

[QUOTE="LP4EVA2005"]i think this is actually a good thing. maybe now sony will lower the Vita price to $179 within a couple months like nintendo didAtariKidX

But Sony's already taking a loss with every Vita unit sold.

The last thing they can do is drop the price...then Sony would be bleeding money.