New JRPG for PS3: Tears to Tiara

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#1 Posted by nervmeister (15134 posts) -
#2 Posted by Squall18 (3751 posts) -
good find! The 360 has already made it my rpg console, but atleast I'll have somthing to play other than Disgea 3
#3 Posted by dream431ca (10165 posts) -

People (especially Lemmings) are gonna argue with you about this game being a JRPG. Because it has some strategy element to it, they claim it's not a JRPG but a SRPG, even if it's made in Japan, it's not a JRPG. LOL

Looks ok, but Valkyria Chronicles seems better than this RPG by a mile.

#4 Posted by Floppy_Jim (25437 posts) -
New? Huh? I've known about this game for ages. Odd.
#5 Posted by fenwickhotmail (7308 posts) -
Looks alright but is it really a JRPG?
#6 Posted by dream431ca (10165 posts) -

Looks alright but is it really a JRPG?fenwickhotmail

See? I told you :P

#7 Posted by nervmeister (15134 posts) -
Looks alright but is it really a JRPG?fenwickhotmail
Well, it's an RPG made by Japanese devs, so yeah.
#8 Posted by fenwickhotmail (7308 posts) -

[QUOTE="fenwickhotmail"]Looks alright but is it really a JRPG?dream431ca

See? I told you :P

Lol, call me a Lemming, but I love RPG's on all consoles. I can't stand strategy RPG's, though.
#9 Posted by Flamestos (2487 posts) -
New? Huh? I've known about this game for ages. Odd.Floppy_Jim
Same here.
#10 Posted by oTHE_FLOPo (79 posts) -

People (especially Lemmings) are gonna argue with you about this game being a JRPG. Because it has some strategy element to it, they claim it's not a JRPG but a SRPG, even if it's made in Japan, it's not a JRPG. LOL

Looks ok, but Valkyria Chronicles seems better than this RPG by a mile.

dream431ca

yeah when this game flops people (cows), will say its not an JRPG .

#11 Posted by dream431ca (10165 posts) -
[QUOTE="dream431ca"]

[QUOTE="fenwickhotmail"]Looks alright but is it really a JRPG?fenwickhotmail

See? I told you :P

Lol, call me a Lemming, but I love RPG's on all consoles. I can't stand strategy RPG's, though.

That's fine. I just don't understand why people can't understand that, if an RPG is made in Japan, it's a JRPG. JRPG is a generic term being all RPGs made in Japan, whether, turn based, strategy or non turn based.

#12 Posted by fenwickhotmail (7308 posts) -
My bad, I assumed the term was simply connected to the generic JRPG.
#13 Posted by xsubtownerx (10705 posts) -
Um, it's an SRPG.. I guess you can call the PS3 the king of SRPGs and the 360 the king of JRPGs. Doesn't look that great tho. Disgaea 3 is the way to go, imo.
#14 Posted by nervmeister (15134 posts) -
Um, it's an SRPG.xsubtownerx
Yes, that and a JRPG in general.
#15 Posted by Ragnarok1051 (19850 posts) -
[QUOTE="dream431ca"]

People (especially Lemmings) are gonna argue with you about this game being a JRPG. Because it has some strategy element to it, they claim it's not a JRPG but a SRPG, even if it's made in Japan, it's not a JRPG. LOL

Looks ok, but Valkyria Chronicles seems better than this RPG by a mile.

oTHE_FLOPo

yeah when this game flops people (cows), will say its not an JRPG .

Does it matter? And it would have to be hyped for it to be called a flop.
#16 Posted by xsubtownerx (10705 posts) -
[QUOTE="xsubtownerx"]Um, it's an SRPG.nervmeister
Yes, that and a JRPG in general.

So Disgaea is a JRPG now? :lol:
#17 Posted by dream431ca (10165 posts) -

Um, it's an SRPG.. I guess you can call the PS3 the king of SRPGs and the 360 the king of JRPGs. Doesn't look that great tho. Disgaea 3 is the way to go, imo.xsubtownerx

JRPG is generic, meaning made in Japan, not the type of RPG. This game is made in Japan, therefore it's a JRPG but it's a strategy RPG so it would be called a strategy JRPG.

#18 Posted by dream431ca (10165 posts) -

[QUOTE="nervmeister"][QUOTE="xsubtownerx"]Um, it's an SRPG.xsubtownerx
Yes, that and a JRPG in general.

So Disgaea is a JRPG now? :lol:

Is Disagea made in Japan?

#19 Posted by nervmeister (15134 posts) -
[QUOTE="nervmeister"][QUOTE="xsubtownerx"]Um, it's an SRPG.xsubtownerx
Yes, that and a JRPG in general.

So Disgaea is a JRPG now? :lol:

It's always been a JRPG. The term "SRPG" is and will always be a sub-category.
#20 Posted by Blackbond (24483 posts) -

People (especially Lemmings) are gonna argue with you about this game being a JRPG. Because it has some strategy element to it, they claim it's not a JRPG but a SRPG, even if it's made in Japan, it's not a JRPG. LOL

Looks ok, but Valkyria Chronicles seems better than this RPG by a mile.

dream431ca

Um no that is the exuse being used by cows lately in response that 360 JRPGs sell better then PS3 JRPGS in Japan. Cow defense is that they are SRPGS and not your traditional JRPGS hence why they don't sell as good.

This is in reference to games such as Disgaea 3 and Valkyria Chronicles not beating out 360 JRPGs in sales even though they are games of quality.

Anyways is this game even gonna see a U.S release? This is an adult rated game. Meaning um well yeah Hentai or whatever you want to call it. This is a remake of the 2005 PC release. I doubt this game comes to America or even outside of Japan. No way an orgoe/hentai game is coming outside Japan unless it goes through some serious changes.
#21 Posted by Ragnarok1051 (19850 posts) -
[QUOTE="xsubtownerx"][QUOTE="nervmeister"]Yes, that and a JRPG in general.nervmeister
So Disgaea is a JRPG now? :lol:

It's always been a JRPG. The term "SRPG" is and will always be a sub-category.

There's always been a difference between two.
#22 Posted by Blackbond (24483 posts) -

[QUOTE="xsubtownerx"]Um, it's an SRPG.. I guess you can call the PS3 the king of SRPGs and the 360 the king of JRPGs. Doesn't look that great tho. Disgaea 3 is the way to go, imo.dream431ca

JRPG is generic, meaning made in Japan, not the type of RPG. This game is made in Japan, therefore it's a JRPG but it's a strategy RPG so it would be called a strategy JRPG.

You are a good man dream431ca. Any RPG that comes out of Japan Strategy, online, turned based whatever is a JRPG. JRPG just means Japanese RPG. Japanese can make Strategy RPGS as well.  

#23 Posted by nervmeister (15134 posts) -
[QUOTE="nervmeister"][QUOTE="xsubtownerx"] So Disgaea is a JRPG now? :lol:Ragnarok1051
It's always been a JRPG. The term "SRPG" is and will always be a sub-category.

There's always been a difference between two.

What does the "J" in JRPG stand for, Ragnarok?
#24 Posted by shaggygrosser (5871 posts) -
looks suuuuper lame.
#25 Posted by dream431ca (10165 posts) -

[QUOTE="nervmeister"][QUOTE="xsubtownerx"] So Disgaea is a JRPG now? :lol:Ragnarok1051
It's always been a JRPG. The term "SRPG" is and will always be a sub-category.

There's always been a difference between two.

Yes, difference in game mechanics. Here is what I mean:

RPG A = Turn based free roaming RPG made in Japan

RPG B = Stratgey RPG, using only a map to move around a some free roaming areas but the main focus is on the strategy combat also made in Japan.

To tell me that RPG B (the strategy RPG) even though it is made in Japan, is not a JRPG, is simply ridiculous. 

#26 Posted by POJO_MOFO (5525 posts) -
[QUOTE="xsubtownerx"][QUOTE="nervmeister"]Yes, that and a JRPG in general.nervmeister
So Disgaea is a JRPG now? :lol:

It's always been a JRPG. The term "SRPG" is and will always be a sub-category.

This is how I have always thought of it, glad to see im not the only one :)
#27 Posted by dream431ca (10165 posts) -
[QUOTE="dream431ca"]

[QUOTE="xsubtownerx"]Um, it's an SRPG.. I guess you can call the PS3 the king of SRPGs and the 360 the king of JRPGs. Doesn't look that great tho. Disgaea 3 is the way to go, imo.Blackbond

JRPG is generic, meaning made in Japan, not the type of RPG. This game is made in Japan, therefore it's a JRPG but it's a strategy RPG so it would be called a strategy JRPG.

You are a good man dream431ca. Any RPG that comes out of Japan Strategy, online, turned based whatever is a JRPG. JRPG just means Japanese RPG. Japanese can make Strategy RPGS as well.  

Thanks man.
#28 Posted by Ragnarok1051 (19850 posts) -
[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="nervmeister"]It's always been a JRPG. The term "SRPG" is and will always be a sub-category.nervmeister
There's always been a difference between two.

What does the "J" in JRPG stand for, Ragnarok?

Yeah but if a western company makes one we now have to call it a WSRPG? A SRPG is just that a SRPG.
#29 Posted by Blackbond (24483 posts) -

[QUOTE="nervmeister"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"] There's always been a difference between two.Ragnarok1051
What does the "J" in JRPG stand for, Ragnarok?

Yeah but if a western company makes one we now have to call it a WSRPG? A SRPG is just that a SRPG.

Thats because we live in the west. Over in Japan I'm sure they don't label their games Japanese Rpgs they probably just call them RPGs or SRPGS as well. The only thing the W or J means is the origin of its creation. In the ned they are all just RPGS. 

#30 Posted by Ragnarok1051 (19850 posts) -

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="nervmeister"]What does the "J" in JRPG stand for, Ragnarok?Blackbond

Yeah but if a western company makes one we now have to call it a WSRPG? A SRPG is just that a SRPG.

Thats because we live in the west. Over in Japan I'm sure they don't label their games Japanese Rpgs they probably just call them RPGs or SRPGS as well. The only thing the W or J means is the origin of its creation. In the ned they are all just RPGS. 

Still doesn't seem right. I haven't heard a SRPG called a JRPG up until now. Just seems like something the cows are starting to make up for their lack of JRPGs.
#31 Posted by TheLordHimself (3316 posts) -
It's just too bad that the game may not even come to the UK, and will be a year late if it does.
#32 Posted by illegalimigrant (1402 posts) -
Valkyre Chronicles is one of the best RPG's i have played.
#33 Posted by dream431ca (10165 posts) -
[QUOTE="Blackbond"]

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"] Yeah but if a western company makes one we now have to call it a WSRPG? A SRPG is just that a SRPG.Ragnarok1051

Thats because we live in the west. Over in Japan I'm sure they don't label their games Japanese Rpgs they probably just call them RPGs or SRPGS as well. The only thing the W or J means is the origin of its creation. In the ned they are all just RPGS. 

Still doesn't seem right. I haven't heard a SRPG called a JRPG up until now. Just seems like something the cows are starting to make up for their lack of JRPGs.

Or Lemmings are trying to make themselves feel better by saying that a JRPG can only be turned based and open world and can't have any strategy element to it, otherwise it's not a JRPG. 360 has no strategy RPGs so of course Lemmings are going to say strategy RPGs are not JRPGs. If a RPG is made in Japan, it's a JRPG. How difficult is that to understand? Seriously?
#34 Posted by DragonFlyJ (658 posts) -
[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"] Still doesn't seem right. I haven't heard a SRPG called a JRPG up until now. Just seems like something the cows are starting to make up for their lack of JRPGs.

Final Fantasy Tactics, Battle Orge, and Diseaga has always been consider Jrpgs. J means Japanese in case you didn't know...
#35 Posted by fjburgos (681 posts) -
#36 Posted by TheOwnerOner (2921 posts) -
wow, another strategy jrpg, PASS
#37 Posted by Chaos_HL21 (5287 posts) -
[QUOTE="dream431ca"]

People (especially Lemmings) are gonna argue with you about this game being a JRPG. Because it has some strategy element to it, they claim it's not a JRPG but a SRPG, even if it's made in Japan, it's not a JRPG. LOL

Looks ok, but Valkyria Chronicles seems better than this RPG by a mile.

Blackbond

Um no that is the exuse being used by cows lately in response that 360 JRPGs sell better then PS3 JRPGS in Japan. Cow defense is that they are SRPGS and not your traditional JRPGS hence why they don't sell as good.

This is in reference to games such as Disgaea 3 and Valkyria Chronicles not beating out 360 JRPGs in sales even though they are games of quality.

Anyways is this game even gonna see a U.S release? This is an adult rated game. Meaning um well yeah Hentai or whatever you want to call it. This is a remake of the 2005 PC release. I doubt this game comes to America or even outside of Japan. No way an orgoe/hentai game is coming outside Japan unless it goes through some serious changes.

I really don't think we should list SRPGs made in Japan as JRPGs. To me a WSRPG like Silent Storm has more in common with JSRPGs than a JRPG like Final Fantasy and Tales of with a WRPG like Fallout or Fable. And SRPGs are a very small fanbase.

That being said this game will never come out here because it is an adult rated game, even if it isn't it is a SRPG, and Japan has a ton of them that doesn't come out here. I'm surprised Atlus brought Operation Darkness, Spectral Force 3 and Zoids Assault here (really surprised on Zoids Assault, how many people know what they are besides me *Hugs his Command Wolf and Shild Liger modles*).

#38 Posted by Slashkice (12986 posts) -

Anyways is this game even gonna see a U.S release? This is an adult rated game. Meaning um well yeah Hentai or whatever you want to call it. This is a remake of the 2005 PC release. I doubt this game comes to America or even outside of Japan. No way an orgoe/hentai game is coming outside Japan unless it goes through some serious changes.Blackbond

The PS3 remake of Tears to Tiara isn't an adult-rated game - it's rated B by the CERO. Like most other VN's/eroge's that make their way to consoles, the game has already been stripped of its H-scenes. That said, I agree that this game will likely never leave Japan, though I wish it would. :(

#39 Posted by Blackbond (24483 posts) -
[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]

 

Thats because we live in the west. Over in Japan I'm sure they don't label their games Japanese Rpgs they probably just call them RPGs or SRPGS as well. The only thing the W or J means is the origin of its creation. In the ned they are all just RPGS.

dream431ca

Still doesn't seem right. I haven't heard a SRPG called a JRPG up until now. Just seems like something the cows are starting to make up for their lack of JRPGs.

Or Lemmings are trying to make themselves feel better by saying that a JRPG can only be turned based and open world and can't have any strategy element to it, otherwise it's not a JRPG. 360 has no strategy RPGs so of course Lemmings are going to say strategy RPGs are not JRPGs. If a RPG is made in Japan, it's a JRPG. How difficult is that to understand? Seriously?

Lemmings calll SJRPGS JRPGs as they like to compare the sales of the JRPGS they have on 360 to that of the JRPGS the PS3 has which is an arguement in their favor.

The cows are saying that SRPGS are not JRPGS so when the lemmings say are JRPGS sell better then yours they can claim that games like Disgaea 3 and Valkryia Chronciles are not JRPGS.

Fact of the matter is though that any RPG made in Japan is a JRPG. if its a Strategy game then its a Japanese Strategy game. Calling an RPG Japanese in essense the J isn't a matter of genre distinction only whether the game is of Western or Japanese origin.

#40 Posted by dream431ca (10165 posts) -
[QUOTE="dream431ca"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"] Still doesn't seem right. I haven't heard a SRPG called a JRPG up until now. Just seems like something the cows are starting to make up for their lack of JRPGs.Blackbond
Or Lemmings are trying to make themselves feel better by saying that a JRPG can only be turned based and open world and can't have any strategy element to it, otherwise it's not a JRPG. 360 has no strategy RPGs so of course Lemmings are going to say strategy RPGs are not JRPGs. If a RPG is made in Japan, it's a JRPG. How difficult is that to understand? Seriously?

 

Lemmings calll SJRPGS JRPGs as they like to compare the sales of the JRPGS they have on 360 to that of the JRPGS the PS3 has which is an arguement in their favor.

The cows are saying that SRPGS are not JRPGS so when the lemmings say are JRPGS sell better then yours they can claim that games like Disgaea 3 and Valkryia Chronciles are not JRPGS.

Fact of the matter is though that any RPG made in Japan is a JRPG. if its a Strategy game then its a Japanese Strategy game. Calling an RPG Japanese in essense the J isn't a matter of genre distinction only whether the game is of Western or Japanese origin.

That's exactly my point. Some people just don't get it, or don't want to get it.

#41 Posted by oTHE_FLOPo (79 posts) -

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"] Still doesn't seem right. I haven't heard a SRPG called a JRPG up until now. Just seems like something the cows are starting to make up for their lack of JRPGs.DragonFlyJ
Final Fantasy Tactics, Battle Orge, and Diseaga has always been consider Jrpgs. J means Japanese in case you didn't know...

Wow -renegade how many ALT accounts do you have first it was jakari now this?:roll:

#42 Posted by Blackbond (24483 posts) -

[QUOTE="DragonFlyJ"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"] Still doesn't seem right. I haven't heard a SRPG called a JRPG up until now. Just seems like something the cows are starting to make up for their lack of JRPGs.oTHE_FLOPo

Final Fantasy Tactics, Battle Orge, and Diseaga has always been consider Jrpgs. J means Japanese in case you didn't know...

 

Wow -renegade how many ALT accounts do you have first it was jakari now this?:roll:

And what does that have to do with said above post? 

#43 Posted by lawlessx (46283 posts) -
[QUOTE="oTHE_FLOPo"]

[QUOTE="DragonFlyJ"] Final Fantasy Tactics, Battle Orge, and Diseaga has always been consider Jrpgs. J means Japanese in case you didn't know...Blackbond

 

Wow -renegade how many ALT accounts do you have first it was jakari now this?:roll:

And what does that have to do with said above post? 

nothing..he's just using the "change subject" skill. :lol:

 

#44 Posted by jasonharris48 (21441 posts) -
Looks good another title to import for my PS3
#45 Posted by naruto7777 (8059 posts) -
great for the ps3 community
#46 Posted by xsubtownerx (10705 posts) -
[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="dream431ca"]

Um, it's an SRPG.. I guess you can call the PS3 the king of SRPGs and the 360 the king of JRPGs. Doesn't look that great tho. Disgaea 3 is the way to go, imo.xsubtownerx

JRPG is generic, meaning made in Japan, not the type of RPG. This game is made in Japan, therefore it's a JRPG but it's a strategy RPG so it would be called a strategy JRPG.

You are a good man dream431ca. Any RPG that comes out of Japan Strategy, online, turned based whatever is a JRPG. JRPG just means Japanese RPG. Japanese can make Strategy RPGS as well.  

Right. So I guess all fighters made in japan should be called "JFG" - japanese fighting games? Give me a break.. :roll:
#47 Posted by Blackbond (24483 posts) -
[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="dream431ca"]

 

JRPG is generic, meaning made in Japan, not the type of RPG. This game is made in Japan, therefore it's a JRPG but it's a strategy RPG so it would be called a strategy JRPG.

xsubtownerx

You are a good man dream431ca. Any RPG that comes out of Japan Strategy, online, turned based whatever is a JRPG. JRPG just means Japanese RPG. Japanese can make Strategy RPGS as well.

Right. So I guess all fighters made in japan should be called "JFG" - japanese fighting games? Give me a break.. :roll:

You realize that when games get reviewed at GS they don't say JRPG or WRPG. Its just RPG right. The JRPG and WRPG pretty much comes from the fans not the industry. The industry doesn't see the place of origin as a genre. In reality these games are just Role Playing games and then they go into the subdivions there such as strategy RPG, MMORPG or whatever. Can you really define place of creation as a genre? Maybe you can. After hearing all sides I really don't even know anymore myself to be honest.