Wow first the rumour of a second 360 now this! Who is milking more? Sony or MS? I can't tell anymore. Might as well not get vista and just get that in 2 years.
I am a hermit so far this gen because I have no next-gen consoles(yet) but I am still saying the hermits have been owned. :(
mehhh, that's typical of MS. Release an OS every 2-3 years. Windows 95 was originally slated to be released some time around 1993, at one point people started calling it win-ever. Then they followed up with 98, then with ME, then XP. I left out NT and 2000 just because those weren't really intended for home consumers. The thing that ticks me off about Vista is the cost. I mean, you can get a cheap computer with Vista for the same price as the full retail version of Vista Ultimate.
Wow first the rumour of a second 360 now this! Who is milking more? Sony or MS? I can't tell anymore. Might as well not get vista and just get that in 2 years.
I am a hermit so far this gen because I have no next-gen consoles(yet) but I am still saying the hermits have been owned. :( darklord888
Um thats three years from now (it will be delayed) which is more then standard time between OS releases. The 5 years between XP and Vista was really unprecendeted. Apple releases a new version of their OS every 18 months. MS used to release one every two years (95, 98, ME, XP). This is not milkage or ownage at all.
mehhh, that's typical of MS. Release an OS every 2-3 years. Windows 95 was originally slated to be released some time around 1993, at one point people started calling it win-ever. Then they followed up with 98, then with ME, then XP. I left out NT and 2000 just because those weren't really intended for home consumers. The thing that ticks me off about Vista is the cost. I mean, you can get a cheap computer with Vista for the same price as the full retail version of Vista Ultimate.bobwill1
You dont need all the extras in Vista Ultimate. Get Home Premium which is 120$ for the OEM version. It includes WMC and everything.
Wow first the rumour of a second 360 now this! Who is milking more? Sony or MS? I can't tell anymore. Might as well not get vista and just get that in 2 years.
I am a hermit so far this gen because I have no next-gen consoles(yet) but I am still saying the hermits have been owned. :( darklord888
No true "hermit" has upgraded to Vista, it's not worth the extra money and trouble to participate in Microsoft's latest beta test.
I wouldn't touch Vista until Service Pack 2, at the very earilest.
Has Microsoft EVER released an OS on time? If they are saying 2009 then I wouldn't be suprised to see it in 2011. It would certainly be nice to not wait five years for a modest OS upgrade but I sure am not holding my breath.
[QUOTE="bobwill1"]mehhh, that's typical of MS. Release an OS every 2-3 years. Windows 95 was originally slated to be released some time around 1993, at one point people started calling it win-ever. Then they followed up with 98, then with ME, then XP. I left out NT and 2000 just because those weren't really intended for home consumers. The thing that ticks me off about Vista is the cost. I mean, you can get a cheap computer with Vista for the same price as the full retail version of Vista Ultimate.TOAO_Cyrus1
You dont need all the extras in Vista Ultimate. Get Home Premium which is 120$ for the OEM version. It includes WMC and everything.
Oh, I know I don't neeeeeed it, I'm just shocked by the pricing.
Wow first the rumour of a second 360 now this! Who is milking more? Sony or MS? I can't tell anymore. Might as well not get vista and just get that in 2 years.
I am a hermit so far this gen because I have no next-gen consoles(yet) but I am still saying the hermits have been owned. :( Dire_Weasel
No true "hermit" has upgraded to Vista, it's not worth the extra money and trouble to participate in Microsoft's latest beta test.
I wouldn't touch Vista until Service Pack 2, at the very earilest. well I can say this from personal experience. Vista RC1 was WAY more robust and reliable than XP. I could go more than a week without ending tasks in Vista and since I've got my new laptop with XP on it I'm now back to crashing my apps on an almost daily basis. To be honest, I do not want Vista for any "new" features. I just want an OS that isn't crash prone. Vista is a step in the right direction in that regard.
[QUOTE="bobwill1"]mehhh, that's typical of MS. Release an OS every 2-3 years. Windows 95 was originally slated to be released some time around 1993, at one point people started calling it win-ever. Then they followed up with 98, then with ME, then XP. I left out NT and 2000 just because those weren't really intended for home consumers. The thing that ticks me off about Vista is the cost. I mean, you can get a cheap computer with Vista for the same price as the full retail version of Vista Ultimate.bobwill1
You dont need all the extras in Vista Ultimate. Get Home Premium which is 120$ for the OEM version. It includes WMC and everything.
Oh, I know I don't neeeeeed it, I'm just shocked by the pricing.
Well you get what you pay for. Vista Ultimate has many more features then XP Pro did which was 200$. Its basically XP Pro and Windows MCE combined and more feature wise.
[QUOTE="Nemme"]Haven't all the windows upgrades been a near 2 years apart from Vista though?chrth
Roughly. 95, 98, 2000, XP in 2002. The five year gap before Vista was huge, relatively. But for the hype vista has gotten it seems strange to annouce the next OS and try and get it out by 2009 and a lot of people aren't even planning to get vista untill 2008.
[QUOTE="chrth"][QUOTE="Nemme"]Haven't all the windows upgrades been a near 2 years apart from Vista though?darklord888
Roughly. 95, 98, 2000, XP in 2002. The five year gap before Vista was huge, relatively. But for the hype vista has gotten it seems strange to annouce the next OS and try and get it out by 2009 and a lot of people aren't even planning to get vista untill 2008. Well I'm not sure this is really a mass media type of announcement. For every article you will read on Vienna there will be 100 on Vista. I do agree many people will not upgrade until 2008 and I think if you look in the corporate sector adoption is going to be even slower. The stability is key for me. From my experience Vista is many times more stable. I'm SOOOOOOO tired of ending tasks in XP and NOOOOOOO I don't want to send the results to Microsoft for the 100th time!! When I was running Vista RC1 my stability was so much better I took it for granted. When I went back to XP because of my new machine it was more painful than I could have ever predicted. It's amazing how used we get to the task ending in XP. Hopefully my experience with Vista wasn't just a 'lucky' install and I'll enjoy that stability again very soon.
so if MS is "screwing" customers by releasing another OS in 2 years man I wonder how much APple fans are getting screwed because they are getting a new OS release about every damn year
I work in the IT department at a school. Currently, the bookstore is only selling Office 2007, which will be taught in all of the intro to computers classes in the fall semester. We're sticking with Windows XP for the time being, because a lot of the applications we run haven't been tested thoroughly enough for Vista; but the plans currently are to switch to Vista in either Spring or Fall 2008. Right there will be about 2000 copies of Vista and Office sold, plus all of the students staff and faculty purchases, granted that will not be as profitable for MS as retail sales, but it's still going to be a buttload of money.
[QUOTE="bobwill1"]I work in the IT department at a school. Currently, the bookstore is only selling Office 2007, which will be taught in all of the intro to computers classes in the fall semester. We're sticking with Windows XP for the time being, because a lot of the applications we run haven't been tested thoroughly enough for Vista; but the plans currently are to switch to Vista in either Spring or Fall 2008. Right there will be about 2000 copies of Vista and Office sold, plus all of the students staff and faculty purchases, granted that will not be as profitable for MS as retail sales, but it's still going to be a buttload of money. That's exactly why most corporate installations will wait a bit. Too many applications that may not work for whatever reasons. Gamers will be faced with that as well I'm sure. Overall I think MS has done a good job with the testing. But when you are in a university or corporate environment it's better to be safe than sorry. Waiting is far less risky and nobody can second guess caution.
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