MS says no cheaper discless Xbox One coming

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/131906-Microsoft-Denies-399-Disc-Less-Xbox-One

Kinda figured, but it would have been a little too futuristic and niche of a product....plus I don't think a disc drive costs $100.

Another "insider" debunked.

Next time you create topic, make it worth discussing. Why are you posting this link, and why is it important? Don't just post a link in a topic and walk away. Just some shinfo.

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On topic, the market isn't ready for a disk-less console unless Microsoft took steps to make it as though disk-less consoles had access to cheaper DD only games. Perhaps only then would it look more attractive.

the rumors are so false that M$ are now hunting down the guy that leaked all this stuff.

Hmmmm, a shame.

It would have been interesting to see the reactions atleast.

It doesn't sound like a bad Idea at all... they probably working on it and just don't wanna say it.

@Stevo_the_gamer: Are we in English class?

We are in SW, and if one is going to spam the board with links, they are going to get locked.

@Stevo_the_gamer: I'm only mobile and I can't copy and pasted correctly.

Sorry man.

No worries, just keep it in mind on the next go around.

I doubt it myself but that's not debunking. MS aren't going to admit to any kind of cheaper or new unit because people might hold off to get the version so they'll lose sales at their current price point.

But yeh i doubt it's happening, who'd buy the thing? It'd be like placing your balls into the hands of MS and the game publishers who put out games a full £10-15 over the price they sell at retail.

I still highly prefer my games on a physical medium. If I had yet to buy a PS4 and Sony announced a cheaper discless model, I'd still buy the more expensive version.

Probably smart of Microsoft to keep just the one version on the market.

noooo!! i really wanted them to release one because it would waste lots of their resources and would completely flop haha

it would have been beautiful

Haha........it's happening more and more. Fake ass insiders are growing on trees lately.

What they need to do is offer a Kinect excluded model to have a lower priced version on the market.

the inside said m$ were considering it, i wouldnt be suprised if m$ were talking about doing something like this but many internal plans never make it to the public and this is prob one of them

Exactly what I expected.

Microsoft will never do that as Kinect is paramount to their Xbox One vision. It's definitely hurting them in the short run but it'll be very useful in the long run.

they going to denie everything because they are not ready to release the info. REAL or FAKE

agreed, They going to need more date then just few months before considering to remove the kinect

with the bad PR the xbox had and higher price. it was guaranteed that the ps4 would outsell it so pretty positive that was no shocker to MS

What kind of long term benefits do you see this having?

They just debunked the first time I've had genuine excitement for their product... :-/

It could be real and MS is trying to keep it hid to sell the current xflops in stock.

Kinect allows Microsoft to further pursue the entertainment market.

When the Xbox One's price goes down to $200-$300, it'll open itself up to casual users. Users that most likely won't use the Xbox One to primarily play video games. They'll be using it for entertainment services like Skype, Netflix, Xbox Music, TV etc and the best thing about Kinect is the fact that it'll make those things much easier to interact with.

Don't worry. Someone will flip the switch.

That or this was MSes way of testing the waters to see if anyone would call them out for trying to be a weak-dick Steambox wannabe and... well.. people did.

their loss.

@Nonstop-Madness: I think that by the time X1 is that affordable that Kinect won't make a difference for the casuals as other devices will have similar tech built in.

As an example, I've already seen a commercial for a smart TV that uses voice and gesture commands without use of a secondary device. I can't remember the company or model.

Exactly, no diskless version will come out, but a price drop will happen.

Good, just give me a cheaper one by at least 100 and I'm on board!

They wouldn't admit it regardless. Who would buy a One knowing it could in some way be cheaper very soon? As it stands now, I'm not expecting a price drop from them because the console is still selling at the current price point. Only fanboys claim otherwise. For a $500 console to be selling as fast as it is when there are cheaper alternatives speaks volumes for the Xbox brand.

I definitely agree with this but it doesn't change the fact that Kinect still allows them to compete with those products.

One of the main reasons why I don't want an Xbox One is because I'm certain that the Xbox One's entertainment features, even with Kinect, will be matched by other products and service whether that's Google's Android TV (rebranded Google TV), Apple TV, Comcast's X1 Platform etc.

Kinect isn't Microsoft's golden ticket but it sure as hell helps them. Aside from Xbox and maybe Windows 8, Microsoft doesn't have another way to pursue the entertainment market like Sony, Apple, Google, Comcast etc.

@TheEroica:

They could still release it later. Plans change. But a trey fan of gaming and MS it wouldn't matter, they would just buy the console as is. :D

@Nonstop-Madness: I can agree with that.

Yeah exactly. Wonder what that says about the other "leaks"?

Lol, Oh MS the biggest liars and flip floppers in the industry...Of course you are going to tell us you aren't going to release a cheaper xbox one early next year or the holiday.

I mean if people know that they wouldn't buy any of the over priced xbones that are currently sitting on the shelf collecting dust.

I am calling this one, they definatly were/are planning a $100 cheaper version the holiday or early next year. This is a desperate save face move to convince people that they have to pay $500 if they want an xbone or everyone would just hold out for the cheaper version and investors would go balistic.

I also remember when MS said they couldn't remove the DRM or kinect and still use the system.

why would people call that out? its a different sku, without a diskdrive, a bigger hardrive a focus on DD and a cheaper price... there are no draconian DRM attempts in this rumor... just a different way to consume gaming from the physical norm. I like it. What would gamers call them out for?

@TheEroica: I don't know if it will be diskless or kinectless but they were/are definatly planning a $100 cheaper xbone sku. Everythig so far points to it.

the old PS3/360 trade in's for $100 off a ONE are already a big preperation phase. This announcement was only to keep people from holding off of purchasing a bone for the now $500 price. It's a business move, but so is the price cut. They need to do both to maximize profit.

@kinectthedots: sounds crazy, but Id rather keep kinect and ditch the bluray drive personally... Im cool with keeping my ps4 for disk based media and using the xone for DD... it'll be a really nice transition to the future of gaming where disk media goes the way of the cd.

I would have the question the stability of an individual who actually though this was possibly the truth, Why would they go back to the very thing they AVOIDED because it might kill them BEFORE the original reveal? They put a disc drive in at the last minute.

Then the features that would happen without a disc drive that they were thinking of keeping put them in hot water months later.

Insider my ass.

I never expected a disc-less version to happen because retailers (especially GameStop and the like) want people to return to theirs stores and buy games from them. Someone who buys a disc-less game console has no reason to return to that store for games.

Sony will be diskless next gen also if they ever make another console, but I just don't like MS being the first to try this as they like to restrict alot of features behind pay wall and they will surely find every way in which it can be done. If it looks tasty enough others might follow (like sony with mandatory PSN+ for online) which would leave us no choice but to have all of our game features and the game itself held hostage behind digital pay walls and restrictions.

I am not totally against DD only, it just depends on how the compnay who controls it decideds to use the power of instant access or instant restriction. Steam works, but it is on an open ended platform so competition keeps it in check, it will be a little different on consoles.

Of course they're not gonna say 'hey, we're totally gonna release a newer, cheaper model in a bit, so don't buy the current one on the market!' What did you all expect?

Although I don't quite understand how they expect retailers to stock a product on which they would be getting no margins, with no revenue from physical games to cover for that either.

As i said above, a perfectly stupid brainless poster.

I'll repeat for others to see as well:

I would have the question the stability of an individual who actually though this was possibly the truth, Why would they go back to the very thing they AVOIDED because it might kill them BEFORE the original reveal? They put a disc drive in at the last minute.

Then the features that would happen without a disc drive that they were thinking of keeping put them in hot water months later.

This goes double for those who were around at those times.

Good. That would've been another sneaky way to implement their drm strategies.

Not surprising. They will probably remove the Kinect, but it ain't going to happen until next year at the earliest. I could see them bundling a game with the XB1 and still selling it for $499 though.

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There is no DRM strategy. That's been dead for awhile now. EA & Ubisoft are the only big companies with that crap still in place.

Good, that was a stupid option anyways.

Price drops are great, but let's not go removing optical drives when the damn HDD is only 500GB and the games take forever to install...especially when Kinect is just sitting there.

Read my lips..

No. Used. Games.

Yeah but MS makes a lot more from a sale in their digital store than retail. Plus the owner can't borrow or trade in games. So a discless console could easily make money in the long run. Only an idiot would buy one though.

Biggest problem with a no disc console is the owner can only buy games from the manufacturer. PC has gone almost all digital but there's plenty of competition.

and they know that... there will be a sku for people that want a disk drive that will accept used games and a sku for the folks who don't bother with used games and would rather deal with competetively priced digital games. We can hypothesize all we want, but microsoft isn't gonna lock a digital store at 60$ premium prices for 6 months in a steam driven industry.... that would be suicide. Not saying it will be as great as steam either, but they'll find a happy medium that customers can live with. Thanks you Microsoft... right? Bring on the $399 XONE.... oh in white please.