Milestone explains why there is no X1 version of MotoGP 14

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#1 CyberLips
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From WorldsFactory

The experience on PS4 has been very powerful. Compared to the architecture of the PS3, this new console is much more similar to a PC so it’s easier to develop on it. The two versions (PC and PS4) are at the same level, in fact we can ensure 1080P on both the platforms with a minimum stable frame rate of 30FPS due to the large amount of bikes that race at the same time.

We don’t have a specific preference for one or another console. I’d like to explain that to all the fans! This year was a matter of time constraints and keeping a high standard, so we’ve decided to keep the exclusive on PS4.

Ouch.

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#2  Edited By Locutus_Picard
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TLHBO.

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#3  Edited By xhawk27
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So this is how it felt to be a PS3 gamer last gen.

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#4 TLHBO
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@xhawk27 said:

So this is how it felt to be a PS3 gamer last gen.

Nah, PS3 never had it this bad. This is the equivalent of being a Wii gamer.

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#5 CrownKingArthur
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OK. That's interesting because last I heard, MotoGP14 was going to be a next-gen release (PC/PS4/XB1). So they're dropping the X1? Interesting.

MotoGP 2013 was the best motorcycle racing game I'd played in aaaaaaaages ... but man ... the graphics were pretty damn poor, FXAA injector helped out a touch, but really it wasn't superior.

Seems they're aiming for 60 fps on PS4 with a low poly scene, and a minimum of 30 fps when there's polys (bikes) galore on screen.

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@xhawk27 said:

So this is how it felt to be a PS3 gamer last gen.

It wasn't near this bad...

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#7 ___gamemaster__
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@xhawk27: PS3 is a little bit powerfull but harder develop. in this case...

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#8  Edited By CyberLips
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@xhawk27 said:

So this is how it felt to be a PS3 gamer last gen.

Because it was harder to develop for, not because it was inferior...

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#9 Scipio8
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Another racer that cant do 1080p 60FPS on the PS4 lol I'll stick to Forza 5 1080p 60FPS on my Xbox One.

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#10 noodlevixen
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Was this series ever relevant on ANY console?

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#11 FoxbatAlpha
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Lol they weren't even payed to be exclusive and the dumbass admits to all the lost sales.

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#12  Edited By CrownKingArthur
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@noodlevixen said:

Was this series ever relevant on ANY console?

i'm going to say no.

sim racing is niche. motorbike sim racing is a niche of that niche. that's not to say there aren't humans out there thoroughly enjoying motorbike sim racing on PC/Consoles.

the driving in motorbike games is really hard to 'get right' .. to get 'realistic', partly because of the complexities of real life riding, but i digress.

anyway back to my short answer to conclude: no i don't think so me old mate.

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#13 CyberLips
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@FoxbatAlpha said:

Lol they weren't even payed to be exclusive and the dumbass admits to all the lost sales.

But they want to keep a high standard.....

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#14  Edited By CyberLips
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@Scipio8 said:

Another racer that cant do 1080p 60FPS on the PS4 lol I'll stick to Forza 5 1080p 60FPS on my Xbox One.

Lol you do realize they're skipping the XboxOne because they think it's inferior, right?

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#15  Edited By xxyetixx
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@CyberLips: time constraints no where does it say inferior system. Keep reaching though

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#16 CyberLips
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@xxyetixx said:

@CyberLips: time constraints no where does it say inferior system. Keep reaching though

What does "keeping a high standard" mean to you?

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@CyberLips: hi standard my ass. They want to kiss Sony ass in hopes of someday to have the backing to be a real studio.

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#18  Edited By speedfreak48t5p
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Such a relevant franchise these days. How will Xbone gamers survive?

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#19  Edited By ReadingRainbow4
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@FoxbatAlpha said:

@CyberLips: hi standard my ass. They want to kiss Sony ass in hopes of someday to have the backing to be a real studio.

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#20  Edited By Spitfire-Six
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@CyberLips: translation " we dont have time to figure out how to make it look good on the xbox so we won't.

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#21  Edited By blackace
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@CyberLips said:

From WorldsFactory

The experience on PS4 has been very powerful. Compared to the architecture of the PS3, this new console is much more similar to a PC so it’s easier to develop on it. The two versions (PC and PS4) are at the same level, in fact we can ensure 1080P on both the platforms with a minimum stable frame rate of 30FPS due to the large amount of bikes that race at the same time.

We don’t have a specific preference for one or another console. I’d like to explain that to all the fans! This year was a matter of time constraints and keeping a high standard, so we’ve decided to keep the exclusive on PS4.

Ouch.

Lazy devs. lol!! No time?!? LMAO!! It won't sell great on the PS4 anyways. The E3 will show them what high standards are like on the XB1.

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#22 noodlevixen
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@CrownKingArthur said:
@noodlevixen said:

Was this series ever relevant on ANY console?

i'm going to say no.

sim racing is niche. motorbike sim racing is a niche of that niche. that's not to say there aren't humans out there thoroughly enjoying motorbike sim racing on PC/Consoles.

the driving in motorbike games is really hard to 'get right' .. to get 'realistic', partly because of the complexities of real life riding, but i digress.

anyway back to my short answer to conclude: no i don't think so me old mate.

I thought not. So it the game doesn't mater anyway.

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#23 CrownKingArthur
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i would be interested to know if they would ever make an xbox one version of MotoGP14. it can definitely handle a game like this, just drop the res a touch (if necessary).

i mean, if they plan to, why not just announce now that it's coming, but it's going to be a bit slow. like dark souls 2 on pc. that wasn't the end of the world.

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#24  Edited By CyberLips
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@spitfire-six said:

@CyberLips: translation " we dont have time to figure out how to make it look good on the xbox so we won't.

What does that even mean?

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#25  Edited By CyberLips
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@CrownKingArthur said:

i would be interested to know if they would ever make an xbox one version of MotoGP14. it can definitely handle a game like this, just drop the res a touch (if necessary).

i mean, if they plan to, why not just announce now that it's coming, but it's going to be a bit slow. like dark souls 2 on pc. that wasn't the end of the world.

Well, since it's MotoGP "14" i don't they will, but maybe next year.

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@blackace: lol Blackace, you're always good for a laugh.

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#27 CrownKingArthur
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@CyberLips said:

@CrownKingArthur said:

i would be interested to know if they would ever make an xbox one version of MotoGP14. it can definitely handle a game like this, just drop the res a touch (if necessary).

i mean, if they plan to, why not just announce now that it's coming, but it's going to be a bit slow. like dark souls 2 on pc. that wasn't the end of the world.

Well, since it's MotoGP "14" i don't they will, but maybe next year.

well not more than twelve months late ... of course!

a couple of months late might be an option. basically, after PS4 MotoGP 2014 but before PS4 MotoGP 2015.

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@CyberLips said:

@spitfire-six said:

@CyberLips: translation " we dont have time to figure out how to make it look good on the xbox so we won't.

What does that even mean?

was typing on the phone, use contextual clues. "We don't have preference for one console" "ps4 is so much like a pc its easy to develop for" "due to time constraints and high standards"

you seriously think this equates to xbox 1 is inferior?

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#29  Edited By CyberLips
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@CrownKingArthur said:

well not more than twelve months late ... of course!

a couple of months late might be an option. basically, after PS4 MotoGP 2014 but before PS4 MotoGP 2015.

They said they're keeping it a PS4 exclusive so maybe not even after MotoGP 15....

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#30 LadyBlue
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Lems wont like this, but it's the sad reality of the xbone.

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#31 CrownKingArthur
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@CyberLips said:

@CrownKingArthur said:

well not more than twelve months late ... of course!

a couple of months late might be an option. basically, after PS4 MotoGP 2014 but before PS4 MotoGP 2015.

They said they're keeping it a PS4 exclusive so maybe not even after MotoGP 15....

yeah maybe not of course. i just wonder if porting the game post-PS4/PC might be viable, and if maybe they'll do that. i actually think that would be a pretty good strategy. go for the biggest platforms first, then maybe outsource the other ports or something while working on MotoGP 2015.

then again i don't know. that game bound by flame skipped xb1 as well.

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@spitfire-six said:

was typing on the phone, use contextual clues. "We don't have preference for one console" "ps4 is so much like a pc its easy to develop for" "due to time constraints and high standards"

you seriously think this equates to xbox 1 is inferior?

Every multiplatform proves that XB1 is inferior.

What did you expect them to say? "XB1 sucks so we decided to develop the game for PS4 and PC which are far superior and easier to develop for"

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@speedfreak48t5p said:

Such a relevant franchise these days. How will Xbone gamers survive?

Lol, I don't know hoe we will survive. It'll be rough going without MotoGP... oh wait, it won't. :)

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#34  Edited By Shewgenja
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1080p and 30fps on PS4. 0p 0fps on XBone.

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Lazy devs. lol!! No time?!? LMAO!! It won't sell great on the PS4 anyways. The E3 will show them what high standards are like on the XB1.

Ladies and Gentlemen the unbiased Manticore....

@shawn30 said:

@speedfreak48t5p said:

Such a relevant franchise these days. How will Xbone gamers survive?

Lol, I don't know hoe we will survive. It'll be rough going without MotoGP... oh wait, it won't. :)

Well is one less game on xbox one,one more game on PS4 on a console which is already at a disadvantage game wise,both score and in quantity of games.

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@CyberLips said:

@spitfire-six said:

was typing on the phone, use contextual clues. "We don't have preference for one console" "ps4 is so much like a pc its easy to develop for" "due to time constraints and high standards"

you seriously think this equates to xbox 1 is inferior?

Every multiplatform proves that XB1 is inferior.

What did you expect them to say? "XB1 sucks so we decided to develop the game for PS4 and PC which are far superior and easier to develop for"

You keep adding the superior part to the statement. No where in their statement did they mention the PS4 being superior. We are not discussing every multi platform we are discussing the comments of this developer about why they didn't develop a x1 version.

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#37  Edited By CyberLips
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@spitfire-six said:

You keep adding the superior part to the statement. No where in their statement did they mention the PS4 being superior. We are not discussing every multi platform we are discussing the comments of this developer about why they didn't develop a x1 version.

Ok then, what does keeping high standards mean to you?

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#38  Edited By Gue1
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@xhawk27 said:

So this is how it felt to be a PS3 gamer last gen.

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#39 Gue1
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@CyberLips said:

@spitfire-six said:

You keep adding the superior part to the statement. No where in their statement did they mention the PS4 being superior. We are not discussing every multi platform we are discussing the comments of this developer about why they didn't develop a x1 version.

Ok then, what does keeping high standards mean to you?

that they can't keep high standards on the xbone due to time constraints?

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@CyberLips said:

@spitfire-six said:

You keep adding the superior part to the statement. No where in their statement did they mention the PS4 being superior. We are not discussing every multi platform we are discussing the comments of this developer about why they didn't develop a x1 version.

Ok then, what does keeping high standards mean to you?

if they have a time constraint and the platform was not easy to develope for what do you think the outcome would be? seriously dude use your brain this isn't complicated and this isn't some dig at the xbox1 even if it was who gives a shit about a game not coming to their system?

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#41  Edited By aroxx_ab
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@CyberLips: hi standard my ass. They want to kiss Sony ass in hopes of someday to have the backing to be a real studio.

They are smart, they going for the winning console, cant blame them :D

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#42  Edited By Gue1
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@SambaLele said:

@xhawk27 said:

So this is how it felt to be a PS3 gamer last gen.

It wasn't near this bad...

at least lems don't have such an influential person as gabe newell telling them that their console is a piece of shit. In fact, most devs actually defend the xbone.

And the PS3 missed out on tons of games too in its early days like Mass Effect, Tales of Vesperia, Dead or Alive 4, Lost Odyssey, The Witcher 2, etc.

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Must be high standards since its also releasing on xbox 360 and ps3......

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#44 CyberLips
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@spitfire-six: @Gue1: They are developing the game for 5 platforms and they have no time for the XB1? Really?

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#45 Spitfire-Six
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@CyberLips: Platforms where they already have development tools created? Platforms that have been out already? dude its not that big of a deal serious.

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#46  Edited By lamprey263
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that's okay, I've no desire to play this period, bike racing doesn't interest me unless we're getting another Motorstorm game, or **fingers_crossed** a revival of the Road Rash series

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#47  Edited By SolidTy
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@Shewgenja said:

1080p and 30fps on PS4. 0p 0fps on XBone.

True, but I'm still waiting for the official technical breakdown from Richard X. Lolbetter just in case.

Plus, Xbones don't need no motocycle games anyways, that's what my friend told me.

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@lamprey263 said:

that's okay, I've no desire to play this period, bike racing doesn't interest me unless we're getting another Motorstorm game, or **fingers_crossed** a revival of the Road Rash series

We really need some road rash. It just isn't the same.

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#49  Edited By Daious
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@xhawk27 said:

So this is how it felt to be a PS3 gamer last gen.

zing

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#50 nyzma23
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what is moto gp ???