Microsoft: We're losing because the PS3 sucks

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#101  Edited By I_can_haz
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@Liquid_ said:

what happened to all the lems on SW? they seem to have feld

They have all taken a leave of absence. It happens anytime NPD numbers come out. They'll be back in a couple of days only to run away again this time next month when May NPD releases lol.

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#102 lostrib
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@Krelian-co said:

@Liquid_ said:

what happened to all the lems on SW? they seem to have feld

long story short, they all "became" hermits and attack ps4 hiding behind pc while ignoring xbone is worse.

I get accused of this crap a lot

Damn Lemmings

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#103 Gue1
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@lostrib said:

@xboxdone74 said:

?

Ps3 sold more

Had more exclusives

More AAA exclusives

More goty exclusives

Say...whaaaaa?

do we even know the official sales numbers of PS3 vs 360

...or does anyone even care anymore

Worldwide:

X360: 83.7 million (as of March 31, 2014)

PS3: 80 million (as of November 2, 2013)

it can't get more official than that ^

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#104 lostrib
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@Gue1 said:

@lostrib said:

@xboxdone74 said:

?

Ps3 sold more

Had more exclusives

More AAA exclusives

More goty exclusives

Say...whaaaaa?

do we even know the official sales numbers of PS3 vs 360

...or does anyone even care anymore

Worldwide:

X360: 83.7 million (as of March 31, 2014)

PS3: 80 million (as of November 2, 2013)

it can't get more official than that ^

so much for the PS3 winning :P

surprised the last numbers are from Nov

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#105  Edited By scatteh316
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@Gue1 said:

@lostrib said:

@xboxdone74 said:

?

Ps3 sold more

Had more exclusives

More AAA exclusives

More goty exclusives

Say...whaaaaa?

do we even know the official sales numbers of PS3 vs 360

...or does anyone even care anymore

Worldwide:

X360: 83.7 million (as of March 31, 2014)

PS3: 80 million (as of November 2, 2013)

it can't get more official than that ^

4 months difference and PS3 would of no doubt sold a bomb load at xmas which are not included in the numbers.

So it can't get any more wrong then that ^

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#106 lostrib
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@scatteh316 said:

@Gue1 said:

@lostrib said:

@xboxdone74 said:

?

Ps3 sold more

Had more exclusives

More AAA exclusives

More goty exclusives

Say...whaaaaa?

do we even know the official sales numbers of PS3 vs 360

...or does anyone even care anymore

Worldwide:

X360: 83.7 million (as of March 31, 2014)

PS3: 80 million (as of November 2, 2013)

it can't get more official than that ^

4 months difference and PS3 would of no doubt sold a bomb load at xmas which are not included in the numbers.

yay speculation!

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#107 NathanDrakeSwag
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@Liquid_ said:

what happened to all the lems on SW? they seem to have feld

MS going into panic mode dropping the Kinect they already paid $100 for and the paywalls they paid $60 a year for combined with PS4 outselling it 2:1 in April and Infamous Second Son outselling the Bone version of Titanflop has broken them.

In other words lems have been boned.

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#108 scatteh316
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@lostrib said:

@scatteh316 said:

@Gue1 said:

@lostrib said:

@xboxdone74 said:

?

Ps3 sold more

Had more exclusives

More AAA exclusives

More goty exclusives

Say...whaaaaa?

do we even know the official sales numbers of PS3 vs 360

...or does anyone even care anymore

Worldwide:

X360: 83.7 million (as of March 31, 2014)

PS3: 80 million (as of November 2, 2013)

it can't get more official than that ^

4 months difference and PS3 would of no doubt sold a bomb load at xmas which are not included in the numbers.

yay speculation!

More like common sense, or are you saying that PS3 wouldn't of sold a bomb load globally at xmas?

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#109  Edited By lostrib
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:

@Liquid_ said:

what happened to all the lems on SW? they seem to have feld

MS going into panic mode dropping the Kinect they already paid $100 for and the paywalls they paid $60 a year for combined with PS4 outselling it 2:1 in April and Infamous Second Son outselling the Bone version of Titanflop has broken them.

In other words lems have been boned.

Why is microsoft paying for those things?

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#110  Edited By lostrib
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@scatteh316 said:

@lostrib said:

@scatteh316 said:

4 months difference and PS3 would of no doubt sold a bomb load at xmas which are not included in the numbers.

yay speculation!

More like common sense, or are you saying that PS3 wouldn't of sold a bomb load globally at xmas?

I don't know what constitutes a "bomb load" but that doesn't mean it beat out the 360 unless you have some official data to show otherwise

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#111 PinkieWinkie
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@lostrib: Where did he state that the PS3 outsold the 360?

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#112 lostrib
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@PinkieWinkie said:

@lostrib: Where did he state that the PS3 outsold the 360?

well if he's not saying that, then there isn't much point to his argument

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#113 PinkieWinkie
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@lostrib: All hes saying is there's 4 mos difference and the PS3 numbers dont account for the strongest sales time of the year, the holidays.

Is it that hard to understand?

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#114  Edited By lostrib
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@PinkieWinkie: unless he's saying that those sales put the PS3 ahead, his statement is entirely irrelevant

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#115 BattleSpectre
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Is it wrong that I laughed?

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#116  Edited By HAZE-Unit
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Spinaroonie bitch.

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#117 lglz1337
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but the Xbone was supposed to swap ps3 users over to Xbone.. what happend MS

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#118 lglz1337
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@blackace: it's funny how you still think Xbone has a chance outside uk and murica.. hahaha

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#119  Edited By kinectthedots
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@StormyJoe said:

@xboxdone74 said:

?

Ps3 sold more

Had more exclusives

More AAA exclusives

More goty exclusives

Say...whaaaaa?

The PS3 didn't sell more. All those other points are true, though.

I am not sure because we do not have new official numbers so perhaps sold more is the wrong choice of words. however PS3 did out sell xbox360 during the time it was on the market. That is a fact.

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#121 Gaming-Planet
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Either they are in denial or completely and utterly blind.

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#122  Edited By WilliamRLBaker
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Do us all a favor and stop posting sites seeking hits with click bait specially sites I've never even heard of.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2014/05/13/microsofts-yusuf-mehdi-explains-the-xbox-ones-split-with-kinect-2/ Original article.

""It’s hard to really assess the gap in sales. They’re in many more markets right now than we are. They’re in 40+ markets, we’re in 13. People have been more satisfied with the Xbox 360 than the PS3, so in that respect people have less of a need to upgrade in the short term due to regular updates for the Xbox 360. We could point to any number of things. That said, we’ve heard from a lot of our Xbox fans who say, “Hey look, I want an Xbox One, but at $499, I probably have to wait a little while before I can afford to get one.” I do think we’re going to get people now who move over, and then buy the Kinect later. So I do think the [price point] broadens the appeal and hopefully brings more people to Xbox One sooner."""

Saying that people are more satisfied doesn't instantly mean people are dissatisfied with the ps3, It could mean more people have a 360, or people are just neutral to their ps3 ownership which doesn't mean they are dissatisfied by it, People need to stop thinking that its always a yes or no answer, its always black and white Its often grey, and often neutral.

The article you posted is shit its click bait simple as that specially when they use shit like this.

""Despite Microsoft’s seemingly panicked response to being behind the PlayStation 4 the sales of the Xbox One have still been far from disastrous, particularly in the US.""

That's not worthwhile let alone good journalism.

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#123 inb4uall
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@HAZE-Unit said:

Spinaroonie bitch.

What's up with all the idiots who like wrestling on this forum?

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#124 bezza2011
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Hahahahahaha Honestly if this is what Microsoft have in line to promote the Xbox One and give there take, they need to really get rid of everyone and start a fresh.

since before the consoles came out and beyond, I've never once heard of a PS3 user going over to Xbox One, I've heard of many going from PS3 to PS4, and I've heard many of people who jumped ship from 360 to PS4.

Xbox One is not selling well because of price end of, and people aren't stupid buying consoles, if your getting a faster more up to date machine for a better price you get that, forget us as fanboys and having fun debates and chipping away at each other, the PS4 really is great value for money.

I don't know if it is just him or the company but someone is very deluded.

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#125 Rattlesnake_8
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@SolidTy said:

"PS4 beating Xbox One because of unsatisfied PS3 owners says Microsoft

People have been more satisfied with the Xbox 360 than the PS3, so in that respect people have less of a need to upgrade in the short term due to regular updates for the Xbox 360"

"However it’s hard to tell exactly what the gap is as Microsoft refuses to release exact figures. The best guess, based on the most recent shipping data, suggests it’s about 4.3 million for the Xbox One compared to 7+ million for the PlayStation 4."

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Interview with M$'s Chief Marketing Officer...hahahaha. Hilarious. I love it. This Chief Marketeer seems unaware of the 360s second half of it's life where they got incredibly lazy with little 1st party effort, coasting on 3rd party and Kinect, and let Sony's PS3 catch up in sales and award winning 1st party games. Is he really that confused.? No, I think he's playing the game he is paid to play. He's the #1 Marketing Xbox guy and he's showing the Aaron Greenburg's and Major Nelson's how to do their job. Momentum was shifting from 360 to PS3 last generation if we look at sales and games and that momentum bled into this generation. Add in the high price, weaker hardware, force bundled kinect for six months, poor Xbone reveal, and constant 180s, and here we are today. I bought an Xbone despite them, but I'm not a typical consumer.

It's a Funny Spin, Super-Marketing man. The decision to be in less countries was their decision, they had an extra year and more money to plan the Xbone launch. This is on M$, no one else. I wonder after interviews if he laughs with glee at some of the embellished rhetoric. I'd say the same things if a company cut my checks and I know I'd be laughing afterwards too.

If this guy is for real and the execs are really super confused on what is happening and can't figure out why the Xbone isn't beating the PS4 as the article indicates, Phil Spencer needs to clean house. It's their job to make a compelling product that people want. It's quite amusing.

This. It's hilarious they try to ignore facts and just make blatant statements to try to bash their competitor.

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#126  Edited By Krelian-co
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@inb4uall said:

@HAZE-Unit said:

Spinaroonie bitch.

What's up with all the idiots who like wrestling on this forum?

how dare you not like wrestling.

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#127 Pray_to_me
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@aroxx_ab said:

Or maybe the fact most lems see 360 as the better console over Xboner, no need to upgrade

They have pretty much the same graphics, why should they?

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#128  Edited By clr84651
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No, it's because the X1 sucks so the people that own a 360 are still sticking with it or they're buying PS4 instead.

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#129 lostrib
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@clr84651 said:

No, it's because the X1 sucks so the people that own a 360 are still sticking with it or they're buying PS4 instead.

prove it

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#130 LJS9502_basic
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@bezza2011 said:

Hahahahahaha Honestly if this is what Microsoft have in line to promote the Xbox One and give there take, they need to really get rid of everyone and start a fresh.

since before the consoles came out and beyond, I've never once heard of a PS3 user going over to Xbox One, I've heard of many going from PS3 to PS4, and I've heard many of people who jumped ship from 360 to PS4.

Xbox One is not selling well because of price end of, and people aren't stupid buying consoles, if your getting a faster more up to date machine for a better price you get that, forget us as fanboys and having fun debates and chipping away at each other, the PS4 really is great value for money.

I don't know if it is just him or the company but someone is very deluded.

Partly the price....but I doubt that is the only reason. MS has done nothing by missteps this gen. Yes they did a 180 after E3 and are still doing so....but first impressions last. And some people really did get fed up with the RROD last gen. Consumer confidence is very important. If you buy a car and have a lot of problems with it.....you're not going to buy the same model....sometimes not even brand.

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#131 Arb0rv1r
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@blackace said:
@Krelian-co said:

@Indicud said:

@blackace: The Xbox One is not doing well compared to the PS4, get over it.

Doesn't change the fact that it's still the 3rd fastest selling game console in the world right now. Unlike the PS4 it's still only in 13 countries and still being sold at a higher price. With those facts, the PS4 should be selling a lot better. I'd be kind of shocked if the PS4 was selling less then the XB1. In the end it will all come down to GAMES anyways, like it usually does.

And that doesn't change the fact the that Xbox One isn't doing well compared to the PS4. So once again, get over it.

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#132 misterpmedia
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Well...mattrick did say to everyone on Spike TV that they have a product for you if you didn't like their Xbone vision, it's the 360.

PR 101 on how to not sell your latest console.

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#133 inb4uall
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@Krelian-co said:

@inb4uall said:

@HAZE-Unit said:

Spinaroonie bitch.

What's up with all the idiots who like wrestling on this forum?

how dare you not like wrestling.

Why would I? Looking at these gifs it's one of the stupidest things I've ever seen.

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#134  Edited By SolidTy
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@CrownKingArthur said:
@ConanTheStoner said:

yeah 1 2

fanboys kneel before you, that's what i said now

fanboys, fanboys with their consoles, just go ahead now

Marry them, marry me

I'm the fanboy that loved you baby can't you see?

Ain't got no future or fanboy tree

But I know what a fanboy and lover ought to be

I know what a fanboy and lover ought BEEEEE...

SAID If you want to call me fanboy

Just go ahead now...

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#135 Bardock47
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@lundy86_4 said:

@R4gn4r0k said:

Pfft, that's nothing. Didn't you see their other excuses ?

"We're losing because LoosingENDS abandoned us"

I miss that guy.

lol same. He knew how to post.

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#136 R4gn4r0k
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@Bardock47 said:

@lundy86_4 said:

I miss that guy.

lol same. He knew how to post.

he knew how to make lists XD

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#137 thehig1
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Kinect is why X box 1 has lagged so far behind, it was a terrible idea to bundle it in.

The power difference is between the X box 1 and ps4 is negligible really, especially for console gamers as they don't see graphics resolution and framerate as an important aspect by default.

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#138  Edited By LJS9502_basic
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@thehig1 said:

Kinect is why X box 1 has lagged so far behind, it was a terrible idea to bundle it in.

The power difference is between the X box 1 and ps4 is negligible really, especially for console gamers as they don't see graphics resolution and framerate as an important aspect by default.

That's not true. Console gamers DO look for the better looking consoles....and really they don't lag that far behind PCs. It's not like they look PS era compared to new graphics cards.

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#139  Edited By cainetao11
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No you're losing because you'll never take the world market from Sony, and your reveal sucked.

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#140  Edited By inggrish
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That spin is brilliant.

Not sure if Microsoft are serious or just trolling though.

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#141 Jankarcop
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@xboxdone74 said:

?

Ps3 sold more

Had more exclusives

More AAA exclusives

More goty exclusives

Say...whaaaaa?

Hey pumpkin. I see you bragging over second place, gloating about the Silver Medal.

last gen, PC

  • MOST aaa-aa total games
  • MOST aaa exclusives. Most aa. Most a. (exclusives)
  • Best multiplats of 90% of games.
  • Best online.
  • Best gfx and performance.
  • Best competitive play and e-sports.

No go fight for 2nd, plebeian.

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#142  Edited By lglz1337
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@Jankarcop said:

@xboxdone74 said:

?

Ps3 sold more

Had more exclusives

More AAA exclusives

More goty exclusives

Say...whaaaaa?

Hey pumpkin. I see you bragging over second place, gloating about the Silver Medal.

last gen, PC

  • MOST aaa-aa total games
  • MOST aaa exclusives. Most aa. Most a. (exclusives)
  • Best multiplats of 90% of games.
  • Best online.
  • Best gfx and performance.
  • Best competitive play and e-sports.

No go fight for 2nd, plebeian.

who cares about PC ? LOL

only those fat guys that never go outside

still no GTA5 LOOL

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#143 thehig1
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@LJS9502_basic: by default they don't, pc is the definitive experience for gaming.

Most games look noticeably better, and the biggest difference is the resolution and framerate as most console games don't run at 60fps and 1080p.

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#144 Cyberdot
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They would have been better off keeping their mouth shut.

They made an absolute fool of themselves. It's embarrassing.

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#145  Edited By 001011000101101
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This must without a doubt be the reason yeah. Now that I think of it, this must be the reason why I'm switching from Xbox 360 to PS4 in the near future.

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#146 LJS9502_basic
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@thehig1 said:

@LJS9502_basic: by default they don't, pc is the definitive experience for gaming.

Most games look noticeably better, and the biggest difference is the resolution and framerate as most console games don't run at 60fps and 1080p.

That depends on what the individual is looking for in gaming....

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#147 thehig1
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@LJS9502_basic: given the choice everyone would rather 60fps and 1080p. I cant see someone looking for for 30fps and sub 1080p resolutions.

If your a console gamer, as I said by default things like graphics,frame rate and resolution are lower down in your list of what your looking for by default.

The only use I have for consoles is I'll buy one when it has an exclusive I really want.

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#148  Edited By LJS9502_basic
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@thehig1 said:

@LJS9502_basic: given the choice everyone would rather 60fps and 1080p. I cant see someone looking for for 30fps and sub 1080p resolutions.

If your a console gamer, as I said by default things like graphics,frame rate and resolution are lower down in your list of what your looking for by default.

The only use I have for consoles is I'll buy one when it has an exclusive I really want.

What a cold unemotional approach to gaming....

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#149 PCgameruk
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M$ have a point! The only reason Xbox got so popular was because the PS3 was Sony's worst console.

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#150 Riverwolf007
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it's not doing as well because ms blew it.

the price, the perception, the hype, the press, kinect, ect, ect, ect...