Microsoft: We're losing because the PS3 sucks

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#1 Posted by mikemil828 (7024 posts) -

http://metro.co.uk/2014/05/15/ps4-beating-xbox-one-because-of-unsatisfied-ps3-owners-says-microsoft-4728907/

Nope Xbone isn't losing because of Microsoft's social miscues, the drm or the kinect or the weaker hardware, it's because the ps3 is so terrible it's users are compelled to upgrade to the PS4

Lemmings, not only is Microsoft losing, they don't even know why they are losing. Just how long are you going to stick by them?

#2 Edited by Lionheart08 (15351 posts) -

Didn't Microsoft try to market the Xbox One by trying to get people to trade their PS3's for store credit?

#3 Posted by Heil68 (43491 posts) -

hahahahahahhahahaha

#4 Posted by lostrib (34657 posts) -

that's an interesting spin on things

#5 Posted by XboxDone74 (2047 posts) -

?

Ps3 sold more

Had more exclusives

More AAA exclusives

More goty exclusives

Say...whaaaaa?

#6 Posted by CrownKingArthur (4432 posts) -

"‘People have been more satisfied with the Xbox 360 than the PS3, so in that respect people have less of a need to upgrade in the short term due to regular updates for the Xbox 360"

don't care bro. it's your job to generate consumer interest in your product.

give yourself an uppercut.

#8 Posted by lundy86_4 (43021 posts) -

Sensationalism. Lovely.

#9 Posted by stereointegrity (10701 posts) -

so so instead of giving a reason why they should upgrade... He says it's Ok for them not too

#10 Posted by lostrib (34657 posts) -

?

Ps3 sold more

Had more exclusives

More AAA exclusives

More goty exclusives

Say...whaaaaa?

do we even know the official sales numbers of PS3 vs 360

...or does anyone even care anymore

#11 Edited by SolidTy (42470 posts) -

"PS4 beating Xbox One because of unsatisfied PS3 owners says Microsoft

People have been more satisfied with the Xbox 360 than the PS3, so in that respect people have less of a need to upgrade in the short term due to regular updates for the Xbox 360"

"However it’s hard to tell exactly what the gap is as Microsoft refuses to release exact figures. The best guess, based on the most recent shipping data, suggests it’s about 4.3 million for the Xbox One compared to 7+ million for the PlayStation 4."

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Interview with M$'s Chief Marketing Officer...hahahaha. Hilarious. I love it. This Chief Marketeer seems unaware of the 360s second half of it's life where they got incredibly lazy with little 1st party effort, coasting on 3rd party and Kinect, and let Sony's PS3 catch up in sales and award winning 1st party games. Is he really that confused.? No, I think he's playing the game he is paid to play. He's the #1 Marketing Xbox guy and he's showing the Aaron Greenburg's and Major Nelson's how to do their job. Momentum was shifting from 360 to PS3 last generation if we look at sales and games and that momentum bled into this generation. Add in the high price, weaker hardware, force bundled kinect for six months, poor Xbone reveal, and constant 180s, and here we are today. I bought an Xbone despite them, but I'm not a typical consumer.

It's a Funny Spin, Super-Marketing man. The decision to be in less countries was their decision, they had an extra year and more money to plan the Xbone launch. This is on M$, no one else. I wonder after interviews if he laughs with glee at some of the embellished rhetoric. I'd say the same things if a company cut my checks and I know I'd be laughing afterwards too.

If this guy is for real and the execs are really super confused on what is happening and can't figure out why the Xbone isn't beating the PS4 as the article indicates, Phil Spencer needs to clean house. It's their job to make a compelling product that people want. It's quite amusing.

#12 Posted by scottpsfan14 (3841 posts) -

?

Ps3 sold more

Had more exclusives

More AAA exclusives

More goty exclusives

Say...whaaaaa?

This is correct. Need you say any more? (please don't)

#13 Edited by R4gn4r0k (16299 posts) -

Pfft, that's nothing. Didn't you see their other excuses ?

"We're losing because LoosingENDS abandoned us"

#14 Edited by Floppy_Jim (25600 posts) -

Talk about shooting Yusuf in the foot http://i.imgur.com/7rHOA.png

#15 Edited by Animal-Mother (26555 posts) -

What....The.....Fuck.....

I've been satisfied with both the 360 and PS3. But as per my stance they did a completely flip flop on games.

the 360 didn't have anything at the end of the generation. In 2013 Ps3 had at least 4 new IPs

#16 Posted by Funk21312 (39 posts) -

Stupid logic by that M$ guy. Every Playstation console will sell because of how loyal and nostalgic people are towards Sony.

#17 Posted by lundy86_4 (43021 posts) -

@R4gn4r0k said:

Pfft, that's nothing. Didn't you see their other excuses ?

"We're losing because LoosingENDS abandoned us"

I miss that guy.

#18 Posted by blackace (20289 posts) -

http://metro.co.uk/2014/05/15/ps4-beating-xbox-one-because-of-unsatisfied-ps3-owners-says-microsoft-4728907/

Nope Xbone isn't losing because of Microsoft's social miscues, the drm or the kinect or the weaker hardware, it's because the ps3 is so terrible it's users are compelled to upgrade to the PS4

Lemmings, not only is Microsoft losing, they don't even know why they are losing. Just how long are you going to stick by them?

Sony didn't know a $600 PS3 would fail at launch either. They didn't know that marketing it as a Blu-Ray player instead of a game console would help keep gamers away in droves. How long will Cows stick with Sony? lol!!

Microsoft knows the price and inclusion of the Kinect is one of the major factors in sales being lower then the competition which is why they're releasing a SKU at $399. There's no doubt that more gamers would jump from the PS3 to the PS4 at a $399 price then XBox 360 gamers jumping to the XBox One at a $499 price. That's a given.

Being in only 13 countries instead of 43 countries also doesn't help either. At least that will be rectified in Sept.

#19 Posted by rrjim1 (856 posts) -

If the PS3 is so great, and has to many games, then why are people getting rid of them and purchasing a PS4?

#20 Posted by XboxStache (912 posts) -

What....The.....Fuck.....

I've been satisfied with both the 360 and PS3. But as per my stance they did a completely flip flop on games.

the 360 didn't have anything at the end of the generation. In 2013 Ps3 had at least 4 new IPs

Microsoft didn't have any new ips for the 360? Do tell, famous Amos brainless...at least we're buying our games. Cows hyped BTS like it was the second coming of christ...yet, it flopped. lol. Try again.

#21 Posted by Hallenbeck77 (14401 posts) -

@blackace: New to SW, so bear with me. The One has apps that like Netflix, Hulu and whatnot that are popular in the US, but won't work, or are not available outside it. Does anyone know ifMicrosoft plan on adding region specific apps to the international releases of the Xbox One, or will it be a case of those users being S.O.L.?

#22 Edited by lostrib (34657 posts) -

@Animal-Mother said:

What....The.....Fuck.....

I've been satisfied with both the 360 and PS3. But as per my stance they did a completely flip flop on games.

the 360 didn't have anything at the end of the generation. In 2013 Ps3 had at least 4 new IPs

Microsoft didn't have any new ips for the 360? Do tell, famous Amos brainless...at least we're buying our games. Cows hyped BTS like it was the second coming of christ...yet, it flopped. lol. Try again.

#23 Posted by LadyBlue (3927 posts) -

When things aren't going your way... blame everyone else. IndifferentIndifferentIndifferent

#24 Posted by xWoW_Rougex (2755 posts) -

These interviews are so pointless. What else can you expect, he's the chief marketer. He's the most biased person you could find.


#25 Posted by inb4uall (5362 posts) -

@Animal-Mother said:

What....The.....Fuck.....

I've been satisfied with both the 360 and PS3. But as per my stance they did a completely flip flop on games.

the 360 didn't have anything at the end of the generation. In 2013 Ps3 had at least 4 new IPs

Microsoft didn't have any new ips for the 360? Do tell, famous Amos brainless...at least we're buying our games. Cows hyped BTS like it was the second coming of christ...yet, it flopped. lol. Try again.

I'd rather have good games to play then the reassurance that random people also bought the same game. The only reason sales matter is to ensure that devs will continue to support the console and put of more games. This makes them more important at the beginning of the gen and less so at the end. Sony was pumping out new ips and other games regardless. You have fun with those sales. I'll enjoy my games.

#26 Edited by PS4hasNOgames (1396 posts) -

?

Ps3 sold more

Had more exclusives

More AAA exclusives

More goty exclusives

Say...whaaaaa?

They really sound like a bunch of kids over there, desperate kids.

#27 Posted by NathanDrakeSwag (5127 posts) -

360 owners upgraded to PS4.

#28 Posted by Krelian-co (10424 posts) -

yeah nothing to do with being an inferior more expensive product or the bad feedback received about their pathetic policies they tried to pull on e3 last year.

#29 Edited by StormyJoe (4928 posts) -

http://metro.co.uk/2014/05/15/ps4-beating-xbox-one-because-of-unsatisfied-ps3-owners-says-microsoft-4728907/

Nope Xbone isn't losing because of Microsoft's social miscues, the drm or the kinect or the weaker hardware, it's because the ps3 is so terrible it's users are compelled to upgrade to the PS4

Lemmings, not only is Microsoft losing, they don't even know why they are losing. Just how long are you going to stick by them?

I LOL'd at that, too. That, and your thread title is kinda funny when you know the context.

#30 Posted by blackace (20289 posts) -

@blackace: New to SW, so bear with me. The One has apps that like Netflix, Hulu and whatnot that are popular in the US, but won't work, or are not available outside it. Does anyone know ifMicrosoft plan on adding region specific apps to the international releases of the Xbox One, or will it be a case of those users being S.O.L.?

The XBox One is region free for games. Microsoft will add region specific apps to the XB1. The are already adding Sky's Now TV for the UK region. So I'd expect other regions apps to be added sometime in the future for various regions. I believe they did this for the XBox 360.

#31 Edited by StormyJoe (4928 posts) -

?

Ps3 sold more

Had more exclusives

More AAA exclusives

More goty exclusives

Say...whaaaaa?

The PS3 didn't sell more. All those other points are true, though.

#32 Edited by SolidTy (42470 posts) -

@inb4uall said:

@XboxStache said:

@Animal-Mother said:

What....The.....Fuck.....

I've been satisfied with both the 360 and PS3. But as per my stance they did a completely flip flop on games.

the 360 didn't have anything at the end of the generation. In 2013 Ps3 had at least 4 new IPs

Microsoft didn't have any new ips for the 360? Do tell, famous Amos brainless...at least we're buying our games. Cows hyped BTS like it was the second coming of christ...yet, it flopped. lol. Try again.

I'd rather have good games to play then the reassurance that random people also bought the same game. The only reason sales matter is to ensure that devs will continue to support the console and put of more games. This makes them more important at the beginning of the gen and less so at the end. Sony was pumping out new ips and other games regardless. You have fun with those sales. I'll enjoy my games.

It feels so good waiting for Halo 4 to release and knowing millions of others bought the same game too. I turn the game off and I just love knowing millions bought the game. I don't even need to turn Halo 4 on anymore and it feels so good knowing the sales of that game I bought one copy of. In fact, I don't even play it anymore, and judging from the online community, many others don't either. Still, to this day it feels so good to talk about the sales of that 343 game as well as other big sellers.

I would rather wait all year and play one-two games that had $$$ millions in marketing like a Halo game does than get a bunch of great, critically acclaimed games to play all year on a rival system. I take comfort that so many choices to play so many great games per year means less sales for each of those games. I would rather a company make LESS games and make more TV commercials for the few games I buy. Those games on the rival platform might not have good sales and that would make me sad and force me to play the games without that feeling of sales greatness.

That's why when I come to forums, I ignore good/great/superb games and talk about their sales. The company that spends the most marketing $$$ like EA, Activision, etc are always going to win my hearts. Madden, Call of Duty, Halo, anything I can get a slurpie cup with is my favorite games. Bad sales on great games means I won't buy them. I laugh at poor sales and generalize gaming populace. The terms for SW like Hermit, Lemming, Sheep, and Cow? I pretend those terms apply in the real world and I say things like "Cows/Sheep/Hermts don't buy games". This means I think the SW terms apply to the real world. I blame the actual gaming populace in SW for not buying games and I follow that with a LOL! or something so people understand how smart I am.

:)

Did that help? lol.

#33 Posted by darkangel115 (1508 posts) -

@lostrib said:

that's an interesting spin on things

This^

Only Sony would resort to saying childish things like that. all he said is people are happy with their 360, it has a lot of good games still coming out. 2 free games a month etc. So people aren't in a rush to upgrade. To a point he's right. and on the sony front as well. you have over 160 mllion PS3/360 sold to 12 million next gen. that's still 148 million people out there who haven't upgraded (minus those who will go to PC)

#34 Posted by Desmonic (13454 posts) -

@Heil68 said:

hahahahahahhahahaha

@lostrib said:

that's an interesting spin on things

Funny! :D

Talk about shooting Yusuf in the foot

Not so funny! :D

#35 Posted by Chutebox (36670 posts) -

So...he's saying the original xbox sucked?

#36 Posted by NathanDrakeSwag (5127 posts) -

@lostrib said:

that's an interesting spin on things

This^

Only Sony would resort to saying childish things like that. all he said is people are happy with their 360, it has a lot of good games still coming out. 2 free games a month etc. So people aren't in a rush to upgrade. To a point he's right. and on the sony front as well. you have over 160 mllion PS3/360 sold to 12 million next gen. that's still 148 million people out there who haven't upgraded (minus those who will go to PC)

Hey Yusuf

#37 Edited by SambaLele (5204 posts) -
@blackace said:

@mikemil828 said:

http://metro.co.uk/2014/05/15/ps4-beating-xbox-one-because-of-unsatisfied-ps3-owners-says-microsoft-4728907/

Nope Xbone isn't losing because of Microsoft's social miscues, the drm or the kinect or the weaker hardware, it's because the ps3 is so terrible it's users are compelled to upgrade to the PS4

Lemmings, not only is Microsoft losing, they don't even know why they are losing. Just how long are you going to stick by them?

Sony didn't know a $600 PS3 would fail at launch either. They didn't know that marketing it as a Blu-Ray player instead of a game console would help keep gamers away in droves. How long will Cows stick with Sony? lol!!

Microsoft knows the price and inclusion of the Kinect is one of the major factors in sales being lower then the competition which is why they're releasing a SKU at $399. There's no doubt that more gamers would jump from the PS3 to the PS4 at a $399 price then XBox 360 gamers jumping to the XBox One at a $499 price. That's a given.

Being in only 13 countries instead of 43 countries also doesn't help either. At least that will be rectified in Sept.

But is the X1 at least selling more than the PS4 in those 13 countries?

@lostrib said:
@xboxdone74 said:

?

Ps3 sold more

Had more exclusives

More AAA exclusives

More goty exclusives

Say...whaaaaa?

do we even know the official sales numbers of PS3 vs 360

...or does anyone even care anymore

Old news. Though the last official numbers I know of are from january 2013.

#38 Posted by blackace (20289 posts) -

yeah nothing to do with being an inferior more expensive product or the bad feedback received about their pathetic policies they tried to pull on e3 last year.

The policies were even mentioned at last years E3. All they talked about were GAMES at last years E3, which is what they will do at this years E3.

You idiot cows keep getting their May reveal mixed up with the E3 2013. They were 2 different shows with different focuses.

#39 Posted by speedfreak48t5p (6974 posts) -

?

Ps3 sold more

Had more exclusives

More AAA exclusives

More goty exclusives

Say...whaaaaa?

You again?

#40 Edited by aroxx_ab (9282 posts) -

Or maybe the fact most lems see 360 as the better console over Xboner, no need to upgrade

#41 Posted by blackace (20289 posts) -

@blackace said:

@mikemil828 said:

http://metro.co.uk/2014/05/15/ps4-beating-xbox-one-because-of-unsatisfied-ps3-owners-says-microsoft-4728907/

Nope Xbone isn't losing because of Microsoft's social miscues, the drm or the kinect or the weaker hardware, it's because the ps3 is so terrible it's users are compelled to upgrade to the PS4

Lemmings, not only is Microsoft losing, they don't even know why they are losing. Just how long are you going to stick by them?

Sony didn't know a $600 PS3 would fail at launch either. They didn't know that marketing it as a Blu-Ray player instead of a game console would help keep gamers away in droves. How long will Cows stick with Sony? lol!!

Microsoft knows the price and inclusion of the Kinect is one of the major factors in sales being lower then the competition which is why they're releasing a SKU at $399. There's no doubt that more gamers would jump from the PS3 to the PS4 at a $399 price then XBox 360 gamers jumping to the XBox One at a $499 price. That's a given.

Being in only 13 countries instead of 43 countries also doesn't help either. At least that will be rectified in Sept.

But is the X1 at least selling more than the PS4 in those 13 countries?

Sony has never broken out their sales figures by just those 13 countries. Still, it's safe to say that the PS4 is probably leading in all 13 countries at this point. With a lower price and more positive hype, it's a given. Still, being in more countries obviously means more sales.

#42 Posted by ghostwarrior786 (3903 posts) -

this is why this prick yusuf mendi has to go, he is clueless as don mattrick

#43 Edited by SonySoldier-_- (719 posts) -

One of my favorite qoutes is "Losers always make excuses". That qoute couldn't be more true.

Lol @ Lemmings trying to defend Microsoft over this. No wonder why people call Lemmings the Clowns of System Wars.

#44 Edited by SambaLele (5204 posts) -

@blackace said:

@SambaLele said:
@blackace said:

@mikemil828 said:

http://metro.co.uk/2014/05/15/ps4-beating-xbox-one-because-of-unsatisfied-ps3-owners-says-microsoft-4728907/

Nope Xbone isn't losing because of Microsoft's social miscues, the drm or the kinect or the weaker hardware, it's because the ps3 is so terrible it's users are compelled to upgrade to the PS4

Lemmings, not only is Microsoft losing, they don't even know why they are losing. Just how long are you going to stick by them?

Sony didn't know a $600 PS3 would fail at launch either. They didn't know that marketing it as a Blu-Ray player instead of a game console would help keep gamers away in droves. How long will Cows stick with Sony? lol!!

Microsoft knows the price and inclusion of the Kinect is one of the major factors in sales being lower then the competition which is why they're releasing a SKU at $399. There's no doubt that more gamers would jump from the PS3 to the PS4 at a $399 price then XBox 360 gamers jumping to the XBox One at a $499 price. That's a given.

Being in only 13 countries instead of 43 countries also doesn't help either. At least that will be rectified in Sept.

But is the X1 at least selling more than the PS4 in those 13 countries?

Sony has never broken out their sales figures by just those 13 countries. Still, it's safe to say that the PS4 is probably leading in all 13 countries at this point. With a lower price and more positive hype, it's a given. Still, being in more countries obviously means more sales.

But if the X1 is released in all countries where the PS4 is already present and still doesn't manage to change the figure you described yourself... than it'll continue the same, the gap will still be widening.

#45 Edited by getyeryayasout (7181 posts) -

Now that is how you spin! lol

Personally, and it's probably largely due to PSN flash sales along with PS Plus and the cornucopia of games I've obtained due to it, my 360 has been mostly gathering dust while my PS3 and PS4 are in constant rotation.

For me the PS3 took the torch from the 360 as my preferred 'go to' system around 2011 or 2012. Despite it's rough start, Sony had the PS3 firing on all cylinders prior to the release of the current gen, and it continues to deliver today.

#46 Posted by blackace (20289 posts) -

One of my favorite qoutes is "Losers always make excuses". That qoute couldn't be more true.

Lol @ Lemmings trying to defend Microsoft over this. No wonder why people call Lemmings the Clowns of System Wars.

Cows are the Clowns of System Wars. That quote came from a Lemming. lol!! Sony must have had a lot of excuses last-gen as well. Currently there are no winners or losers at the momemt. The battle is just beginning.

#47 Posted by FoxbatAlpha (6164 posts) -

Microsoft sound like some lems in here trolling. Not pointing any fingers.

#48 Edited by tonitorsi (8301 posts) -

The masters of the

#49 Edited by blackace (20289 posts) -

@blackace said:

@SambaLele said:
@blackace said:

@mikemil828 said:

http://metro.co.uk/2014/05/15/ps4-beating-xbox-one-because-of-unsatisfied-ps3-owners-says-microsoft-4728907/

Nope Xbone isn't losing because of Microsoft's social miscues, the drm or the kinect or the weaker hardware, it's because the ps3 is so terrible it's users are compelled to upgrade to the PS4

Lemmings, not only is Microsoft losing, they don't even know why they are losing. Just how long are you going to stick by them?

Sony didn't know a $600 PS3 would fail at launch either. They didn't know that marketing it as a Blu-Ray player instead of a game console would help keep gamers away in droves. How long will Cows stick with Sony? lol!!

Microsoft knows the price and inclusion of the Kinect is one of the major factors in sales being lower then the competition which is why they're releasing a SKU at $399. There's no doubt that more gamers would jump from the PS3 to the PS4 at a $399 price then XBox 360 gamers jumping to the XBox One at a $499 price. That's a given.

Being in only 13 countries instead of 43 countries also doesn't help either. At least that will be rectified in Sept.

But is the X1 at least selling more than the PS4 in those 13 countries?

Sony has never broken out their sales figures by just those 13 countries. Still, it's safe to say that the PS4 is probably leading in all 13 countries at this point. With a lower price and more positive hype, it's a given. Still, being in more countries obviously means more sales.

But if the X1 is released in all countries where the PS4 is already present and still doesn't manage to change the figure you described yourself... than it'll continue the same, the gap will still be widening.

Once XB1 is launched in the other 30+ countries the gap will definitely close some. Sales are slowing down for the PS4. It's not selling like it was in Nov, Dec & Jan. They aren't out of stock anywhere anymore. So the gap will close some and depending on how the E3 goes, the gap might close even more after that show. Especially with the new XB1 SKU priced at $399.

#50 Posted by Indicud (739 posts) -

@blackace: The Xbox One is not doing well compared to the PS4, get over it.