Microsoft said developers all want to go multiplat so why is Nioh / Nier / Bloodborne exclusive?

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#1  Edited By deactivated-60bf765068a74
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Phil spencer doesn't make any sense.

He told people that devs want to put there thing on everything to make more money but these titles keep ditching the xbox one since its not worth it for them to put it on xbox one.

The guy needs to explain why devs are ditching the platform or refund us our xbox one for ps4's.

If they come on PC thats fine but some of us bought an xbox one and didn't buy a PC Phillip Spencer.

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#2 QuadKnight
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Easy. They want to go multiplat and release on anything that isn't the Xbone ?

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#3 Dakur
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Maybe he actually meant "no dev wants to put their games on the xbone cause we'll either cancel their game or make their life a living hell so I'll damage control to pretend that they don't want to do it at all with anyone else".

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#4 deactivated-60bf765068a74
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Easy. They want to go multiplat and release on anything that isn't the Xbone ?

xboner didn't even get kingdom hearts 2.8 it got a sexy ps4 version with the sexy ps4 box art

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#5 Xabiss
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FYI Neir is not an exclusive and is multi plat.

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#6 NathanDrakeSwag
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Bloodborne is a Sony owned IP. They just contracted a 3rd party studio to develop it. The others are exclusive because Xbone is non-existent in Japan and the Western audience that buys Japanese games is on PS4.

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#7  Edited By foxhound_fox
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Nier isn't exclusive, lol.

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@Xabiss said:

FYI Neir is not an exclusive and is multi plat.

What about Kingdom Hearts 2.8 is that exclusive or not?

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#9  Edited By deactivated-5d1e44cf96229
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Bloodborne is owned by Sony so that is why that game can't be a multiplat. The developer releases their Dark Souls games on Xbox since that franchise isn't owned by Sony.

Nier is the type of Japanese game that would never sell well to the Xbox audience and I'm sure that you won't find many Xbox exclusive owners that will care about not getting this game. The type of audience that likes this kind of game is on Playstation, so it wouldn't make good business sense to put it on Xbox when the audience on Xbox doesn't really care for this kind of Japanese game or else they would have bought a Playstation instead.

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#10 clone01
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@ProtossRushX said:
@Xabiss said:

FYI Neir is not an exclusive and is multi plat.

What about Kingdom Hearts 2.8 is that exclusive or not?

You didn't say Kingdom Hearts. You said Nier. You aren't that bright, are you?

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#11 NathanDrakeSwag
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@Xabiss said:

FYI Neir is not an exclusive and is multi plat.

Exclusively not on Xbone. But I forgot all lems also have gaming PC's even though Xbone doesn't have a single game that isn't also available on PC right?

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@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@Xabiss said:

FYI Neir is not an exclusive and is multi plat.

Exclusively not on Xbone. But I forgot all lems also have gaming PC's even though Xbone doesn't have a single game that isn't also available on PC right?

Not like it matters but that assertion is still incorrect.

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#13 mark1974
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Yeah, Nier is a multiplat. So why isn't it on Xbox? When Xbox can't get Multiplats and don't have their own exclusives either, that seems like a problem to me.

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#14 kvally
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There are 2 people that own an Xbox One in Japan, so they won't get those Japanese titles.

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Money. It's a hit! Don't give me that do goody good bullsh*t.

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#16 WallofTruth
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@clone01 said:
@ProtossRushX said:
@Xabiss said:

FYI Neir is not an exclusive and is multi plat.

What about Kingdom Hearts 2.8 is that exclusive or not?

You didn't say Kingdom Hearts. You said Nier. You aren't that bright, are you?

Lol, you should know the answer to that question by now.

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#17  Edited By mark1974
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@kvally: there are actual non Japanese people who like Japanese games. Super Mario was a world wide hit for example. Is Xenophobia an inherent Xbox fanboy trait?

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#18  Edited By WallofTruth
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@ProtossRushX said:

Phil spencer doesn't make any sense.

He told people that devs want to put there thing on everything to make more money but these titles keep ditching the xbox one since its not worth it for them to put it on xbox one.

The guy needs to explain why devs are ditching the platform or refund us our xbox one for ps4's.

If they come on PC thats fine but some of us bought an xbox one and didn't buy a PC Phillip Spencer.

Your own opening post answers your thread....

Just like you wrote, they want to make money and since it's not worth putting them on the Xbox One, they're rather releasing it on more lucrative platforms, like the PS4 and PC.

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#19 MonsieurX
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Why is OP still allowed to make threads?

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#20 NathanDrakeSwag
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@Pedro said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@Xabiss said:

FYI Neir is not an exclusive and is multi plat.

Exclusively not on Xbone. But I forgot all lems also have gaming PC's even though Xbone doesn't have a single game that isn't also available on PC right?

Not like it matters but that assertion is still incorrect.

I stand corrected. How could I forget Fighter Within?

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#21 ShadowDeathX
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Bloodborne was funded by Sony and its owned by Sony. Nioh is published by Sony in all regions except Japan.

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#22 deactivated-60bf765068a74
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@ShadowDeathX said:

Bloodborne was funded by Sony and its owned by Sony. Nioh is published by Sony in all regions except Japan.

Why didnt microsoft publish it in USA? Same with kingdom hearts 2.8 why didn't microsoft step up and publish? There missing too many big hitters for me to own just an xbox one too many games ditched the platform but are on sony ps4 id have just been fine iwth only a ps4 this gen

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#23 DarkTower
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Those are Japanese games, which have always sided with Sony.

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@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@Xabiss said:

FYI Neir is not an exclusive and is multi plat.

Exclusively not on Xbone. But I forgot all lems also have gaming PC's even though Xbone doesn't have a single game that isn't also available on PC right?

Your fellow cow just said not everyone buys a PC in his initial post......

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If they come on PC thats fine but some of us bought an xbox one and didn't buy a PC Phillip Spencer.

Why does it not matter that Neir is on PC (Exclusively not on Xbone), but PC/XB1 games cause the XB1 to still get bashed?

Seriously??

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#25 kvally
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@mark1974: not sure. As a manticore I buy all the games on all the gaming machines.

I don't have time to follow the fanboys ever changing comments and rules.

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#26 the_master_race
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Nier is not exclusive and there's no guarantee that Nioh is going yo remain exclusive to PS4 too

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#27 deactivated-58bd60b980002
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People on Xbox only play shooter, racing game and RPG like Skyrim/Fallout because of the first person view.

There is no place on that system for Japanease game.

Xbox is really the 3rd wheel here the must useless one since their games are also on PC ... so why bother ... that battle is between Playstation, PC and Switch

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#28 Pedro
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:

I stand corrected. How could I forget Fighter Within?

I am so sorry. When you start talking like the TC there is nothing anyone can do to help you.

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#29 kvally
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With the ClosedStation 4 and 720pStation Pro only relying on Uncharted/GranTurismo/Killzone games with milking it to the end of the galaxy, seems no gamers want games.

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#30  Edited By deactivated-5f4e2292197f1
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For games that "weren't" contracted by Sony, it does make you wonder why Nier isn't on Xbox, and why Nioh isn't on PC?!?

But the fact is, PS4 does have the most total sales, meaning there is more customers and is the strongest console. When Xbox gets the Scorpio and has the power of PS4, and the sales get into the 30-40 mil, I'm sure Xbox will see more exclusives.

But don't hate on Xbox not being in Japan, they banned GoW4. I mean that is unfair, if Japan sales is key to Japanese Games.

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#31 CrashNBurn281
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Why make a game for a platform it will not sell on?

Xflop gamers just want Halo, Forza, and Gears.

Japanese developers cannot help Xflop fanboys have bad taste. Let's place blame where it belongs.

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@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@Xabiss said:

FYI Neir is not an exclusive and is multi plat.

Exclusively not on Xbone. But I forgot all lems also have gaming PC's even though Xbone doesn't have a single game that isn't also available on PC right?

Rare Replay & Halo 5 are the legit Xbox One Exclusive games not on PC. Since Rare Replay is the only & I mean only, my favorite X1 exclusive game on the console, it's the reason why I still own and keeping my X1, I love Rare Replay.

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#33 deactivated-60bf765068a74
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@davillain- said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@Xabiss said:

FYI Neir is not an exclusive and is multi plat.

Exclusively not on Xbone. But I forgot all lems also have gaming PC's even though Xbone doesn't have a single game that isn't also available on PC right?

Rare Replay & Halo 5 are the legit Xbox One Exclusive games not on PC. Since Rare Replay is the only & I mean only, my favorite X1 exclusive game on the console, it's the reason why I still own and keeping my X1, I love Rare Replay.

nice man i got xb1 my fav game on its halo MCC

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#34 MonsieurX
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@ProtossRushX said:
@ShadowDeathX said:

Bloodborne was funded by Sony and its owned by Sony. Nioh is published by Sony in all regions except Japan.

Why didnt microsoft publish it in USA? Same with kingdom hearts 2.8 why didn't microsoft step up and publish? There missing too many big hitters for me to own just an xbox one too many games ditched the platform but are on sony ps4 id have just been fine iwth only a ps4 this gen

The facepalming never stops

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#35 xdude85
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Jesus fucking christ, you guys are too easily baited.

TC doesn't even provide sources to back up this claim that Microsoft wants its developers to go multi-platform.

Another shit thread from an obvious troll that's still around for some reason.

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#36 dxmcat
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@dakur said:

Maybe he actually meant "no dev wants to put their games on the xbone cause we'll either cancel their game or make their life a living hell so I'll damage control to pretend that they don't want to do it at all with anyone else".

MS is where Devs go to die :D

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#37  Edited By Douevenlift_bro
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Its the old, if you cant have it diss it childish dismissal lol. Truth is, they have FAILED horribly at securing exclusives. I mean, REAL exclusives not timed multiplats or any other caveat. See that would take investing in studios.... Something MS has 0 interest in spending on lol.

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#38 kvally
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All three of those are multi platform.

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Holy shit...

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#40 lrdfancypants
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My understanding from reading the interwebs is that Japanese games suck anyway and it's no loss. :)

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#41 Flyincloud1116
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With the line that is coming to the X1 in 2017 that rivals the Greatest Lineup in the history of gaming a few holidays ago, I highly doubt that Phil is worry about the games mention by the TC.

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#42 silversix_
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Phil will tell you anything to damage control his actions (killing Xbone exclusives forever).

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#43 Flyincloud1116
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@kvally said:

There are 2 people that own an Xbox One in Japan, so they won't get those Japanese titles.

Correction X1 70k strong in Japan!

Source!!

REKT!!!

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#44 blackace
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@ProtossRushX said:

Phil spencer doesn't make any sense.

He told people that devs want to put there thing on everything to make more money but these titles keep ditching the xbox one since its not worth it for them to put it on xbox one.

The guy needs to explain why devs are ditching the platform or refund us our xbox one for ps4's.

If they come on PC thats fine but some of us bought an xbox one and didn't buy a PC Phillip Spencer.

They are Japanese developers who release their games in Japan first. Because XB1 didn't sell well in Japan, they don't want to release their games on it. They really need to release their games on the XB1 in US and Europe. That's where they would sell. Bloodborne & NiOh were made with the help of Sony, so it will only be on PS4. Nier could easily be released on XB1, since it's coming to PC. I think Phil is talking about developers in the U.S. Most U.S. developers want their games on every platform. Japan developers are a different story.

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#45 blackace
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@quadknight said:

Easy. They want to go multiplat and release on anything that isn't the Xbone ?

Some Japanese developers, but that's about it. Developers everywhere else want their games on all platforms.

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@Pedro said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@Xabiss said:

FYI Neir is not an exclusive and is multi plat.

Exclusively not on Xbone. But I forgot all lems also have gaming PC's even though Xbone doesn't have a single game that isn't also available on PC right?

Not like it matters but that assertion is still incorrect.

Don't waste your time with the fence hopper, dude.

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#47  Edited By ribhu672
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Devs want to go multi platform that's what Phil is saying and the list of game you mentioned are not exclusive because the devs wanted to release them on one platform but because the publisher like Sony paid them to make it locked to one platform. What Phil said has nothing to do with publishing deals. He specifically talks about devs. You guys clearly don't have comprehensive skills. Learn the differences between "what a developer wants" and "what a publisher wants."

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#48 samfisher56
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There is no market for these games on XBOX. Makes no sense to take your time to make that version.

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#49 funsohng
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@MonsieurX said:

Why is OP still allowed to make threads?

This. I guess shit hasn't changed much here after all.

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Spencer is no Ken Kutaragi, no Kaz Hirai, no Jack Tretton, no Shuhei.