Microsoft Persuaded Rockstar to Delay GTA4 to face MGS4( i think)

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#1 Revolution_Ali
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well it has been confirmed by Rockstar that they would be releasing exclusive two episodes for 360 by the end of first quarter of next year.There was no Block buster game(in the 1st quarter)thatwas coming next year for 360.i know thereare some but these games (ninja gaiden 2 ,halo wars)are notyet confirmed for 2008(1st quarter)release.
So MGS4 is coming same time when the GTA4 will hit the shelves.May be one or half month difference.
And i think it will definately effect PS3's sales.
Whatdo you guys think?
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#2 zsc4
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No I don't think this is the case, I think R* delayed it at their own will.
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#3 KAWICE
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I really don't think so because it would really hinder the Company of Take-Two to not have GTA out during the Christmas month. But hey man nice theory

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#4 Unholy_Smite
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it still comes out for the PS3 at the same time...With Wii on their rear it would have made more sense to get it out now and get your US sales above 10 million by year end and take a perm lead here.
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#5 PBSnipes
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No way, not even MS can justify spending they money it would take to get Rockstar/T2 to pull GTA4 out of the holiday season.
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#6 KAWICE
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it still comes out for the PS3 at the same time...With Wii on their rear it would have made more sense to get it out now and get your US sales above 10 million by year end and take a perm lead here.Unholy_Smite

That is not what he was getting at. He was trying to say that He belives that Microsoft might have PAID off Take-Two int. To wait and release GTA around the time that Metal Gear Solid 4 comes out so it takes away from the Shock wave of greatness (yes I hope so :D )because M$ and there 360 dose not (as of right now) have a game to deliver such a blow early next year.

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#7 choasgod
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No way, not even MS can justify spending they money it would take to get Rockstar/T2 to pull GTA4 out of the holiday season. PBSnipes


50 million for exclusive downloadable content seems like alot of money to me :P
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#8 Ninja-Vox
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I think this is absolutely rediculous, and people need to take a step back into the real world whereby a company can not tell another large corporation to delay a game, losing millions in holiday sales because it's more convenient for them.

Jeez...

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#9 Ninja-Vox
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[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]No way, not even MS can justify spending they money it would take to get Rockstar/T2 to pull GTA4 out of the holiday season. choasgod


50 million for exclusive downloadable content seems like alot of money to me :P

Of which they get every penny + more returned. >_>

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[QUOTE="Unholy_Smite"]it still comes out for the PS3 at the same time...With Wii on their rear it would have made more sense to get it out now and get your US sales above 10 million by year end and take a perm lead here.KAWICE

That is not what he was getting at. He was trying to say that He belives that Microsoft might have PAID off Take-Two int. To wait and release GTA around the time that Metal Gear Solid 4 comes out so it takes away from the Shock wave of greatness (yes I hope so :D )because M$ and there 360 dose not (as of right now) have a game to deliver such a blow early next year.

And you dont think that's rediculous? :?

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#11 SpaceMatt
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Didn't Take Two have to cut their quarterly earning estimates by almost $300 million after they postponed GTA 4?

Does anyone honestly think MS paid them that much money to make up for it, if it's true that it was Microsoft's idea to postpone the game?

Edited because Take Two cut their earnings by $300 million, not $400 million.

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/grandtheftauto4/news.html?sid=6176074&om_act=convert&om_clk=newsfeatures&tag=newsfeatures;title;1

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Conspiracy theories abound...
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#13 white_sox
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I think this is absolutely rediculous

Ninja-Vox
Agreed.
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#14 eddy_of_york
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I think rockstar made a great decision. Theres far fewer AAA capable games coming out near the new release date. MGS4 will damage gta sales less since the 360 fanbase is bigger.
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i think sony paid t2 to delay both versions because the contract they have with sony not to release the game fist on 360 since it's almost complete and the ps3 version is still lagging behind. sony know that if MS has the two best selling games out this holiday season that more people will flock to 360 over ps3 and their fall line up. the dvd9 is a lame excuse that everyone is using as the reason for the delay bu keep forgetting the the game is almost done on the 360 version. all screen and demo where played on 360 not ps3. so in reality the ps3 would have had a poblem this holiday if 360 versoin would have came out first and with their line up this season. sony would have sold less systems. SONY is the blame not MS
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i think sony paid t2 to delay both versions because the contract they have with sony not to release the game fist on 360 since it's almost complete and the ps3 version is still lagging behind. sony know that if MS has the two best selling games out this holiday season that more people will flock to 360 over ps3 and their fall line up. the dvd9 is a lame excuse that everyone is using as the reason for the delay bu keep forgetting the the game is almost done on the 360 version. all screen and demo where played on 360 not ps3. so in reality the ps3 would have had a poblem this holiday if 360 versoin would have came out first and with their line up this season. sony would have sold less systems. SONY is the blame not MSv-vega75

Or in the real world - maybe they delayed the game because it wasn't finished and they need more time to work on it? Is this idea too "out there" or something?:roll:

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[QUOTE="v-vega75"]i think sony paid t2 to delay both versions because the contract they have with sony not to release the game fist on 360 since it's almost complete and the ps3 version is still lagging behind. sony know that if MS has the two best selling games out this holiday season that more people will flock to 360 over ps3 and their fall line up. the dvd9 is a lame excuse that everyone is using as the reason for the delay bu keep forgetting the the game is almost done on the 360 version. all screen and demo where played on 360 not ps3. so in reality the ps3 would have had a poblem this holiday if 360 versoin would have came out first and with their line up this season. sony would have sold less systems. SONY is the blame not MSNinja-Vox

Or in the real world - maybe they delayed the game because it wasn't finished and they need more time to work on it? Is this idea too "out there" or something?:roll:

It's out there Ninja, but it's a total conspiracy theory man!

Everybody knows MS/Sony paid $300 million tocover Take Two's quarterly losses to delay it.

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[QUOTE="v-vega75"]i think sony paid t2 to delay both versions because the contract they have with sony not to release the game fist on 360 since it's almost complete and the ps3 version is still lagging behind. sony know that if MS has the two best selling games out this holiday season that more people will flock to 360 over ps3 and their fall line up. the dvd9 is a lame excuse that everyone is using as the reason for the delay bu keep forgetting the the game is almost done on the 360 version. all screen and demo where played on 360 not ps3. so in reality the ps3 would have had a poblem this holiday if 360 versoin would have came out first and with their line up this season. sony would have sold less systems. SONY is the blame not MSNinja-Vox

Or in the real world - maybe they delayed the game because it wasn't finished and they need more time to work on it? Is this idea too "out there" or something?:roll:

no it's not out their. but creating threads that it's MS that persuaded or paid T2 to delay it doesn't seem correct. being as that the 360 version was almost done and noone has seen anything on the ps3 version. plus it give the ps3 a better run for next year with mgs4 and ffx13
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no it's not out their. but creating threads that it's MS that persuaded or paid T2 to delay it doesn't seem correct. being as that the 360 version was almost done and noone has seen anything on the ps3 version. plus it give the ps3 a better run for next year with mgs4 and ffx13 v-vega75

How'd you know the 360 version was almost done? Do you think making stuff up helps your point? :?

They said they played the latest build and a holiday release wasn't acceptable; simple as that. It's not done. They need more time.

Yes, it really is that simple.

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well it has been confirmed by Rockstar that they would be releasing exclusive two episodes for 360 by the end of first quarter of next year.There was no Block buster game(in the 1st quarter)thatwas coming next year for 360.i know thereare some but these games (ninja gaiden 2 ,halo wars)are notyet confirmed for 2008(1st quarter)release.
So MGS4 is coming same time when the GTA4 will hit the shelves.May be one or half month difference.
And i think it will definately effect PS3's sales.
Whatdo you guys think?Revolution_Ali

I think you need to play more, think less!

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[QUOTE="Unholy_Smite"]it still comes out for the PS3 at the same time...With Wii on their rear it would have made more sense to get it out now and get your US sales above 10 million by year end and take a perm lead here.KAWICE

That is not what he was getting at. He was trying to say that He belives that Microsoft might have PAID off Take-Two int. To wait and release GTA around the time that Metal Gear Solid 4 comes out so it takes away from the Shock wave of greatness (yes I hope so :D )because M$ and there 360 dose not (as of right now) have a game to deliver such a blow early next year.

If you guys believe that then I truly am amazed at how illogical people are. Hey I heard Microsoft helped stage the moon landing.

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#22 v-vega75
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[QUOTE="v-vega75"]no it's not out their. but creating threads that it's MS that persuaded or paid T2 to delay it doesn't seem correct. being as that the 360 version was almost done and noone has seen anything on the ps3 version. plus it give the ps3 a better run for next year with mgs4 and ffx13 Ninja-Vox

How'd you know the 360 version was almost done? Do you think making stuff up helps your point? :?

They said they played the latest build and a holiday release wasn't acceptable; simple as that. It's not done. They need more time.

Yes, it really is that simple.

ok my mistake on it being almost done. but it is more ahead on development on the 360 version then it is on the ps3 version. so if the 360 version get ddone before the ps3 version why not bring it out first on the 360.or because of contract issue they have to release both at the same time.
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#23 mike1889
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New conspiracy theory!!!! Delayed so that the Wii version will be ready for simultaneous release!!!! No link exists !!! All speculation !!! More believable to me than paying millions for a game delay!!!!

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#24 DeadMan1290
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I don't think so just because they paid R* for the content doesn't mean that now MS will persuade R* when they want to, so I think R* did this on their own will and probably maybe becasue they wanna add something else to the game?? Don't you think that's a logical reason maybe..:roll:
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#25 SemiMaster
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Trust me, they WANT this game released for the holiday season... Only an idiot would think otherwise.
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#26 REVOLUTIONfreak
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Why would they want GTAIV delayed to compete against MGS4 when GTAIV is on the PS3 anyway?

I think people read into things too much. The game's not finished, end of story.