Microsoft OS consuming only 2% of GPU

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#1 Posted by deniiiii21 (1261 posts) -

http://www.gamepur.com/news/13456-microsoft-turning-xbox-one-10-reserved-gpu-os-2-more-raw-power-developers.html

Sorry if posted already.

#2 Edited by GrenadeLauncher (4578 posts) -

So they've inched just a little bit closer to the paper specs which are still worse than the PS4s. GG Microshit. Love your vision for videogames.

#3 Edited by nyzma23 (924 posts) -

hmmm i don't know what it means but if it can increase xbone graphics than it's good news

#4 Posted by tormentos (17666 posts) -

I wonder how the OS will react since now is sluggish by several complains also the 10% is not just for the OS is also for Kinect.So a Kinect less xbox one coming soon cheaper.?

Also lol he is on here on Puerto Rico now and is going to ST Thomas that means he is in a cruise,leaving today since sundays is where cruise arrive and go.

#5 Edited by misterpmedia (3380 posts) -

i think this means some games you won't be able to use the snap feature.

#6 Edited by GrenadeLauncher (4578 posts) -

i think this means some games you won't be able to use the snap feature.

What a tragedy.

#7 Posted by JohnF111 (14088 posts) -

Good news.. I think. Any way maybe they've simply moved the resources to the other hidden GPU that they never told anyone about.

#8 Edited by clyde46 (45953 posts) -

Oh no, 2%! What ever shall we do!

#9 Posted by ronvalencia (15110 posts) -

http://www.gamepur.com/news/13456-microsoft-turning-xbox-one-10-reserved-gpu-os-2-more-raw-power-developers.html

Sorry if posted already.

Btw, 98 percent of ~1.31 TFLOPS = ~1.284 TFLOPS.

#10 Posted by R4gn4r0k (16427 posts) -

@nyzma23 said:

hmmm i don't know what it means but if it can increase xbone graphics than it's good news

Yes, it does mean that. Less reserved GPU power for the OS means that the devs will have access to more.

#11 Edited by Shewgenja (8753 posts) -

@ronvalencia said:

@deniiiii21 said:

http://www.gamepur.com/news/13456-microsoft-turning-xbox-one-10-reserved-gpu-os-2-more-raw-power-developers.html

Sorry if posted already.

Btw, 98 percent of ~1.31 TFLOPS = ~1.284 TFLOPS.

So, it's still weaker than shit. Good to know. 720p generation confirmed. Again.

#12 Edited by tormentos (17666 posts) -

@deniiiii21 said:

http://www.gamepur.com/news/13456-microsoft-turning-xbox-one-10-reserved-gpu-os-2-more-raw-power-developers.html

Sorry if posted already.

Btw, 98 percent of ~1.31 TFLOPS = ~1.284 TFLOPS.

Basically a 7770 level.

#13 Posted by ronvalencia (15110 posts) -

@

@ronvalencia said:

@deniiiii21 said:

http://www.gamepur.com/news/13456-microsoft-turning-xbox-one-10-reserved-gpu-os-2-more-raw-power-developers.html

Sorry if posted already.

Btw, 98 percent of ~1.31 TFLOPS = ~1.284 TFLOPS.

Basically a 7770 level.

Yes and no. 7770 doesn't replicate TMU (load/store) and cache/local data storage interactions like 12 CU.

This is why I don't like 7850 at 900Mhz being equal to PS4's 18 CU at 800Mhz i.e. more cache = less trips to external memory.

#14 Edited by ronvalencia (15110 posts) -

@ronvalencia said:

@deniiiii21 said:

http://www.gamepur.com/news/13456-microsoft-turning-xbox-one-10-reserved-gpu-os-2-more-raw-power-developers.html

Sorry if posted already.

Btw, 98 percent of ~1.31 TFLOPS = ~1.284 TFLOPS.

So, it's still weaker than shit. Good to know. 720p generation confirmed. Again.

Both PS4 (1.84 TFLOPS) and X1 (1.31 TFLOPS) are in 1.x TFLOPS range while my R9-290 is at 4.848 TFLOPS range.

I'm not going say more than that i.e. I'm not a NVIDIA fanboy.

#15 Posted by Shielder7 (5152 posts) -

2% for OS, 20% for Kinect

#16 Edited by remiks00 (1798 posts) -

@Shewgenja said:

@ronvalencia said:

@deniiiii21 said:

http://www.gamepur.com/news/13456-microsoft-turning-xbox-one-10-reserved-gpu-os-2-more-raw-power-developers.html

Sorry if posted already.

Btw, 98 percent of ~1.31 TFLOPS = ~1.284 TFLOPS.

So, it's still weaker than shit. Good to know. 720p generation confirmed. Again.

Both PS4 (1.84 TFLOPS) and X1 (1.31 TFLOPS) are in 1.x TFLOPS range while my R9-290 is at 4.848 TFLOPS range.

I'm not going say more than that i.e. I'm not a NVIDIA fanboy.

R9-290 is a beast.

#17 Posted by Gargus (2147 posts) -

What about when you have stuff open in the background, the kinects power useage and so on. They probably stripped it down to running almost nothing at all to give the lowest percent possible on it.

The real question is what is it under load and running in real world settings.

#18 Posted by deniiiii21 (1261 posts) -

I think they are seeing they have a serious problem on their hands, they were probably caught off guard with how much horsepower PS4 was packing, thats why the bump in clock speed and now OS. Anything helps, but I just dont think you can make up the difference from 7770 to 7870 add in the ram issues and PS4 being much easier to code for. I still think Xone has enough to run games at 1080p once they learn the architechure better, and PS4 will do it with ease.

#19 Posted by Nonstop-Madness (9471 posts) -

The PS4 is now 27.981% more powerful. :P

#20 Posted by ACP_45 (429 posts) -
#21 Edited by BattlefieldFan3 (341 posts) -

@Nonstop-Madness said:

The PS4 is now 27.981% more powerful. :P

?

It's still close to 50% more powerful.

Anyway, this just makes the Xbone more gimped. Multitasking is going to be slow as shit.

Snap feature will be disabled. X-game chat will probably be diasbled as well. The only thing you'll be able to do is go to the homescreen and have a limited amount of things to do. You can't browse the web when you're playing games. etc.

What a disaster. Use your money to hire some decent engineers like Cerny, Microsoft.

#22 Posted by MonsieurX (29966 posts) -

@Nonstop-Madness said:

The PS4 is now 27.981% more powerful. :P

?

It's still close to 50% more powerful.

Anyway, this just makes the Xbone more gimped. Multitasking is going to be slow as shit.

Snap feature will be disabled. X-game chat will probably be diasbled as well. The only thing you'll be able to do is go to the homescreen and have a limited amount of things to do. You can't browse the web when you're playing games. etc.

What a disaster. Use your money to hire some decent engineers like Cerny, Microsoft.

You seem to have a unhealthy crush on Cerny.

You should ask him out

#23 Posted by BattlefieldFan3 (341 posts) -

@BattlefieldFan3 said:

@Nonstop-Madness said:

The PS4 is now 27.981% more powerful. :P

?

It's still close to 50% more powerful.

Anyway, this just makes the Xbone more gimped. Multitasking is going to be slow as shit.

Snap feature will be disabled. X-game chat will probably be diasbled as well. The only thing you'll be able to do is go to the homescreen and have a limited amount of things to do. You can't browse the web when you're playing games. etc.

What a disaster. Use your money to hire some decent engineers like Cerny, Microsoft.

You seem to have a unhealthy crush on Cerny.

You should ask him out

Cerny is the smartest man alive in the gaming industry.

Microsoft's engineers can spend all the company's liquid assets on engineering and Cerny will still trump them all with just a few million in R&D. Cerny can't be beat. The sooner Xboners realize that, the better.

#24 Posted by MonsieurX (29966 posts) -

@MonsieurX said:

@BattlefieldFan3 said:

@Nonstop-Madness said:

The PS4 is now 27.981% more powerful. :P

?

It's still close to 50% more powerful.

Anyway, this just makes the Xbone more gimped. Multitasking is going to be slow as shit.

Snap feature will be disabled. X-game chat will probably be diasbled as well. The only thing you'll be able to do is go to the homescreen and have a limited amount of things to do. You can't browse the web when you're playing games. etc.

What a disaster. Use your money to hire some decent engineers like Cerny, Microsoft.

You seem to have a unhealthy crush on Cerny.

You should ask him out

Cerny is the smartest man alive in the gaming industry.

Microsoft's engineers can spend all the company's liquid assets on engineering and Cerny will still trump them all with just a few million in R&D. Cerny can't be beat. The sooner Xboners realize that, the better.

Yup,huge crush.

#25 Edited by tormentos (17666 posts) -

@

Yes and no. 7770 doesn't replicate TMU (load/store) and cache/local data storage interactions like 12 CU.

This is why I don't like 7850 at 900Mhz being equal to PS4's 18 CU at 800Mhz i.e. more cache = less trips to external memory.

Flops count is very close,12 CU producing 1.28TF should work a little better than 10 doing the same 1.28 TF,the 7790 proved that.

But i find that odd since you claimed that the 7850 at 900mhz = the PS4 and now you say you don't like that..

#26 Posted by Jakandsigz (4512 posts) -

@MonsieurX said:

@BattlefieldFan3 said:

@Nonstop-Madness said:

The PS4 is now 27.981% more powerful. :P

?

It's still close to 50% more powerful.

Anyway, this just makes the Xbone more gimped. Multitasking is going to be slow as shit.

Snap feature will be disabled. X-game chat will probably be diasbled as well. The only thing you'll be able to do is go to the homescreen and have a limited amount of things to do. You can't browse the web when you're playing games. etc.

What a disaster. Use your money to hire some decent engineers like Cerny, Microsoft.

You seem to have a unhealthy crush on Cerny.

You should ask him out

Cerny is the smartest man alive in the gaming industry.

Microsoft's engineers can spend all the company's liquid assets on engineering and Cerny will still trump them all with just a few million in R&D. Cerny can't be beat. The sooner Xboners realize that, the better.

Your comparing a primary game machine to a multimedia device that Sony could not replicate without spending more money. Your praise for Cerny makes no sense in regard to what you are claiming, you clearly have an unhealthy obsession.

#27 Posted by BattlefieldFan3 (341 posts) -

@BattlefieldFan3 said:

@MonsieurX said:

@BattlefieldFan3 said:

@Nonstop-Madness said:

The PS4 is now 27.981% more powerful. :P

?

It's still close to 50% more powerful.

Anyway, this just makes the Xbone more gimped. Multitasking is going to be slow as shit.

Snap feature will be disabled. X-game chat will probably be diasbled as well. The only thing you'll be able to do is go to the homescreen and have a limited amount of things to do. You can't browse the web when you're playing games. etc.

What a disaster. Use your money to hire some decent engineers like Cerny, Microsoft.

You seem to have a unhealthy crush on Cerny.

You should ask him out

Cerny is the smartest man alive in the gaming industry.

Microsoft's engineers can spend all the company's liquid assets on engineering and Cerny will still trump them all with just a few million in R&D. Cerny can't be beat. The sooner Xboners realize that, the better.

Your comparing a primary game machine to a multimedia device that Sony could not replicate without spending more money. Your praise for Cerny makes no sense in regard to what you are claiming, you clearly have an unhealthy obsession.

PS4 has better multimedia features than the Xbone. Keep making excuses to validate your inferior console.

#28 Posted by MonsieurX (29966 posts) -

@Jakandsigz said:

@BattlefieldFan3 said:

@MonsieurX said:

@BattlefieldFan3 said:

@Nonstop-Madness said:

The PS4 is now 27.981% more powerful. :P

?

It's still close to 50% more powerful.

Anyway, this just makes the Xbone more gimped. Multitasking is going to be slow as shit.

Snap feature will be disabled. X-game chat will probably be diasbled as well. The only thing you'll be able to do is go to the homescreen and have a limited amount of things to do. You can't browse the web when you're playing games. etc.

What a disaster. Use your money to hire some decent engineers like Cerny, Microsoft.

You seem to have a unhealthy crush on Cerny.

You should ask him out

Cerny is the smartest man alive in the gaming industry.

Microsoft's engineers can spend all the company's liquid assets on engineering and Cerny will still trump them all with just a few million in R&D. Cerny can't be beat. The sooner Xboners realize that, the better.

Your comparing a primary game machine to a multimedia device that Sony could not replicate without spending more money. Your praise for Cerny makes no sense in regard to what you are claiming, you clearly have an unhealthy obsession.

PS4 has better multimedia features than the Xbone. Keep making excuses to validate your inferior console.

PS4 has multimedia features?

News to me

#29 Posted by hrt_rulz01 (5959 posts) -

@MonsieurX said:

@BattlefieldFan3 said:

@Nonstop-Madness said:

The PS4 is now 27.981% more powerful. :P

?

It's still close to 50% more powerful.

Anyway, this just makes the Xbone more gimped. Multitasking is going to be slow as shit.

Snap feature will be disabled. X-game chat will probably be diasbled as well. The only thing you'll be able to do is go to the homescreen and have a limited amount of things to do. You can't browse the web when you're playing games. etc.

What a disaster. Use your money to hire some decent engineers like Cerny, Microsoft.

You seem to have a unhealthy crush on Cerny.

You should ask him out

Cerny is the smartest man alive in the gaming industry.

Microsoft's engineers can spend all the company's liquid assets on engineering and Cerny will still trump them all with just a few million in R&D. Cerny can't be beat. The sooner Xboners realize that, the better.

Sounds like someone's got a crush...

#30 Posted by darkangel115 (1579 posts) -

@hrt_rulz01:

Cerny is an idiot. He's the same guy that hasn't made a good game in 20 years, charged sony an ass load for a design a student could have done, and even worse couldn't make any decent dev tools for the ps3 last gen

#31 Posted by BlessedChill (676 posts) -

@darkangel115: if Cernys an idiot, than your IQ is equivalent to that of a rock.

"I.T guy" lol

#32 Edited by MBirdy88 (8019 posts) -


Since when did GPU's use alot of power for U.Is?

#33 Posted by BattlefieldFan3 (341 posts) -

@hrt_rulz01:

Cerny is an idiot. He's the same guy that hasn't made a good game in 20 years, charged sony an ass load for a design a student could have done, and even worse couldn't make any decent dev tools for the ps3 last gen

So are you saying the Xbone designer was worse than a student? Because the PS4's design is superior to the Xbone's inefficient, weaksauce design.

#34 Posted by TwistedShade (3164 posts) -

I read this isn't confirmed and the guy posting about is has gotten a ton of rumors wrong before.

#35 Edited by edidili (3449 posts) -
#36 Posted by Mkavanaugh77 (20759 posts) -

So they've inched just a little bit closer to the paper specs which are still worse than the PS4s. GG Microshit. Love your vision for videogames.

You've inched a little bit closer to being the most delusional cow here.

#37 Posted by silversix_ (14246 posts) -

Looking at extremely weak graphics X1 is offering you'd think its OS uses at least 30% of its power but no, its THAT low end of a system dat bone is

#38 Edited by ronvalencia (15110 posts) -

@ronvalencia said:

@

Yes and no. 7770 doesn't replicate TMU (load/store) and cache/local data storage interactions like 12 CU.

This is why I don't like 7850 at 900Mhz being equal to PS4's 18 CU at 800Mhz i.e. more cache = less trips to external memory.

Flops count is very close,12 CU producing 1.28TF should work a little better than 10 doing the same 1.28 TF,the 7790 proved that.

But i find that odd since you claimed that the 7850 at 900mhz = the PS4 and now you say you don't like that..

It depends on the workload type i.e. depends on compute size and data reuse factors.

#39 Posted by HitmanActual (338 posts) -

Shows how lacking for power the system is when they are bareboning the OS to 2%.

"Xbox snap"

*Goes and gets drink, makes a sandwich, sits down and waits patiently for snap feature to open.*

#40 Posted by tormentos (17666 posts) -

Your comparing a primary game machine to a multimedia device that Sony could not replicate without spending more money. Your praise for Cerny makes no sense in regard to what you are claiming, you clearly have an unhealthy obsession.

Multi media machine is anything that plays more than 1 media,games,music,movies that is a multi media machine.

The only thing the xbox one has on the PS4 is HDMI in,which i don't care for and is completely redundant,since you still need your cable box turn on to be able to use it with the xbox one,so 2 devices to do a job 1 device alone can do,is not really an advantage.

@hrt_rulz01:

Cerny is an idiot. He's the same guy that hasn't made a good game in 20 years, charged sony an ass load for a design a student could have done, and even worse couldn't make any decent dev tools for the ps3 last gen

Really that is funny Cerny has been congratulated by pretty much every developer out there,the PS4 is even easier to code for than the xbox one..

But it doesn't stop there..

The PS4 is incredibly smaller than the xbox one,while been stronger and running cooler while gaming,even that the xbox one is huge and doesn't have a damn build in powerful supply and instead has a damn ugly power brick.

The PS4 is stronger.

Easier to code.

smaller.

runs cooler while gaming.

And all this while having an internal PSU.

If you ask me the one design that could had been made by a 10 year old is the xbox one,huge square box that looks like an 80's VCR..

#41 Edited by Mkavanaugh77 (20759 posts) -

@Jakandsigz said:

Your comparing a primary game machine to a multimedia device that Sony could not replicate without spending more money. Your praise for Cerny makes no sense in regard to what you are claiming, you clearly have an unhealthy obsession.

Multi media machine is anything that plays more than 1 media,games,music,movies that is a multi media machine.

The only thing the xbox one has on the PS4 is HDMI in,which i don't care for and is completely redundant,since you still need your cable box turn on to be able to use it with the xbox one,so 2 devices to do a job 1 device alone can do,is not really an advantage.

@darkangel115 said:

@hrt_rulz01:

Cerny is an idiot. He's the same guy that hasn't made a good game in 20 years, charged sony an ass load for a design a student could have done, and even worse couldn't make any decent dev tools for the ps3 last gen

Really that is funny Cerny has been congratulated by pretty much every developer out there,the PS4 is even easier to code for than the xbox one..

But it doesn't stop there..

The PS4 is incredibly smaller than the xbox one,while been stronger and running cooler while gaming,even that the xbox one is huge and doesn't have a damn build in powerful supply and instead has a damn ugly power brick.

The PS4 is stronger.

Easier to code.

smaller.

runs cooler while gaming.

And all this while having an internal PSU.

If you ask me the one design that could had been made by a 10 year old is the xbox one,huge square box that looks like an 80's VCR..

The Ps4 is stronger, how much can it bench press? Ryse proves you wrong.

smaller but comes with a wobble

Runs cooler but deletes save files at the same time.

Ps4 is not all you make it out tobe.

#42 Posted by tormentos (17666 posts) -

The Ps4 is stronger, how much can it bench press? Ryse proves you wrong.

smaller but comes with a wobble

Runs cooler but deletes save files at the same time.

Ps4 is not all you make it out tobe.

Ryse prove me wrong...hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaa

That game would be 1080p 40FPS on PS4 without a single doubt.

It doesn't wobble unless you press it,and yeah is smaller.

I could care less about the save problem,is not happening to every one,and you can save to a memory stick.

Yeah is not but is way more than what you people want to make the xbox out tobe..

#43 Edited by betamaxx83 (351 posts) -

Don't worry lems Microsoft said the Xflop will be 2-3 times more powerful with the cloud!!!

#44 Posted by jhcho2 (4382 posts) -

Did anyone expect the OS to be a GPU sink? If anything, the OS should be a CPU sink, not GPU sink. That's like expecting your Windows desktop to be taxing on your card

#45 Posted by GrenadeLauncher (4578 posts) -

@GrenadeLauncher said:

So they've inched just a little bit closer to the paper specs which are still worse than the PS4s. GG Microshit. Love your vision for videogames.

You've inched a little bit closer to being the most delusional cow here.

Hey, it's not my fault Microsoft nerfed your beloved Xbone so they could force Wagglecam integration into the system. Don't worry, maybe one day the system will match its paper specs and your games will run at a few more frames higher than otherwise. :)

#46 Posted by Mkavanaugh77 (20759 posts) -

@Mkavanaugh77 said:

@GrenadeLauncher said:

So they've inched just a little bit closer to the paper specs which are still worse than the PS4s. GG Microshit. Love your vision for videogames.

You've inched a little bit closer to being the most delusional cow here.

Hey, it's not my fault Microsoft nerfed your beloved Xbone so they could force Wagglecam integration into the system. Don't worry, maybe one day the system will match its paper specs and your games will run at a few more frames higher than otherwise. :)

I dont own a Ps4 or xbox1.

Only console I own is the Ps3(use it for streaming shows/movies)

I had a 360 though from day1 and can easily say that it was much better than the Ps3.

360 was the better console period,imsure the xbox1 will be better as well.

#47 Posted by GrenadeLauncher (4578 posts) -

imsure the xbox1 will be better as well.

Imagine being this deluded. You haven't been paying attention, have you?

#48 Posted by Mr-Kutaragi (1937 posts) -

Tomb Raider is first game to display this capability? TLHBO!