Microsoft is teh DOOMED! Yahoo reports....

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#1 Posted by TheEroica (13723 posts) -

ok ok maybe a bit of a stretch but yahoo seems to think microsoft and stevebalmer are living the nightmare senario that xbox may not be able to save them from.... sounds familiar *ahem sony* the link is in the next post because gamespot hates ease of use from a phone.

#2 Posted by TheEroica (13723 posts) -

ok ok maybe a bit of a stretch but yahoo seems to think microsoft and stevebalmer are living the nightmare senario that xbox may not be able to save them from.... sounds familiar *ahem sony* the link...

TheEroica
Sorry cant link on gamespot from a phone... sigh http://finance.yahoo.com/news/steve-ballmer-s-nightmare-is-coming-true-181558610.html
#3 Posted by kuraimen (28078 posts) -
Good riddance.
#4 Posted by TheEroica (13723 posts) -
Good riddance.kuraimen
Same can be said of sony... good riddance.
#5 Posted by kuraimen (28078 posts) -
[QUOTE="kuraimen"]Good riddance.TheEroica
Same can be said of sony... good riddance.

No, Sony is not so bad...
#6 Posted by TheEroica (13723 posts) -
[QUOTE="TheEroica"][QUOTE="kuraimen"]Good riddance.kuraimen
Same can be said of sony... good riddance.

No, Sony is not so bad...

Get off the cross kuraimen, someone else needs the wood... sony isnt some holy savior of gaming, never was never will be... they all want your money and theyll go to great lengths to get it... some are better than others at it.
#7 Posted by themajormayor (25854 posts) -
[QUOTE="TheEroica"][QUOTE="kuraimen"]Good riddance.kuraimen
Same can be said of sony... good riddance.

No, Sony is not so bad...

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#8 Posted by metal_zombie (2288 posts) -
I hope IPads dont replace PC
#9 Posted by kuraimen (28078 posts) -
[QUOTE="TheEroica"][QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="TheEroica"] Same can be said of sony... good riddance.

No, Sony is not so bad...

Get off the cross kuraimen, someone else needs the wood... sony isnt some holy savior of gaming, never was never will be... they all want your money and theyll go to great lengths to get it... some are better than others at it.

I never have claimed Sony is the savior of gaming just that it isn't as bad as M$. M$ on the other hand I think its a pretty harmful company, monopolistic, FUD and shady tactics is what their business is about.
#10 Posted by GamerwillzPS (8530 posts) -

Good to see. They need to learn it the hard way.

What they've done with Windows and Xbox are terrible.

#11 Posted by blue_hazy_basic (27891 posts) -
I do think MS is in trouble, because with the exception of the 360 they seem to be swinging and missing with almost all their new innovations and products.
#12 Posted by blue_hazy_basic (27891 posts) -

Good to see. They need to learn it the hard way.

What they've done with Windows and Xbox are terrible.

GamerwillzPS
You want people to lose their jobs? :?
#13 Posted by Heil68 (45224 posts) -
Well dropping core in 2009 surely didn't help.
#14 Posted by GamerwillzPS (8530 posts) -

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

Good to see. They need to learn it the hard way.

What they've done with Windows and Xbox are terrible.

blue_hazy_basic

You want people to lose their jobs? :?

No, no. I'm just glad that it happened to them so they can learn to get better next time.

#15 Posted by TheEroica (13723 posts) -

Good to see. They need to learn it the hard way.

What they've done with Windows and Xbox are terrible.

GamerwillzPS
The article praises the success of xbox, so you are half wrong... as for windows? Time will tell i suppose.
#16 Posted by neo418 (481 posts) -

This article is more like PC is dying rather than microsoft is dying.... The mighty iPad lol is still nothing more than a glorified e-reader

#17 Posted by TheEroica (13723 posts) -
Well dropping core in 2009 surely didn't help. Heil68
Heil ya gotz ta reeeeead.... xbox = massive success... everything else = bomb.
#18 Posted by Caseytappy (2148 posts) -

All this opinion states is that the Xbox division with 20 billion is not big enough to save the total Entertainment and Devices division that has $364 million in operating income if it should collapse .

Do Cows understand anything they post ?

Yet another Cow failboat leaves the harbour to join the Armada of stupid !

#19 Posted by kuraimen (28078 posts) -
[QUOTE="Heil68"]Well dropping core in 2009 surely didn't help. TheEroica
Heil ya gotz ta reeeeead.... xbox = massive success... everything else = bomb.

Is not such a massive success. According to the article it is a success but a modest one at best.
#20 Posted by TheEroica (13723 posts) -

This article is more like PC is dying rather than microsoft is dying.... The mighty iPad lol is still nothing more than a glorified e-reader

neo418
I think there is some truth to this but i dont know if dying is the right word or just that there is finally a legitimate contender to windows and the pc.... still theres no way that serious business and writing will be dominated by touch screen inefficiency... there is very much still a purpose for the pc platform.
#21 Posted by TheEroica (13723 posts) -
[QUOTE="TheEroica"][QUOTE="Heil68"]Well dropping core in 2009 surely didn't help. kuraimen
Heil ya gotz ta reeeeead.... xbox = massive success... everything else = bomb.

Is not such a massive success. According to the article it is a success but a modest one at best.

Incorrect again... the article clearly states that the xbox brand is a success but that its 365 million dollar section of microsofts business is small by comparison of its other divisions which total into the billions... the article is implying that despite xbox being a rousing success that it cant cover the entire company.
#22 Posted by Caseytappy (2148 posts) -

For MS to compensate that big a loss with just the Xbox division everyone on the planet should have to buy at least two !

#23 Posted by blue_hazy_basic (27891 posts) -
[QUOTE="TheEroica"][QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="TheEroica"] Heil ya gotz ta reeeeead.... xbox = massive success... everything else = bomb.

Is not such a massive success. According to the article it is a success but a modest one at best.

Incorrect again... the article clearly states that the xbox brand is a success but that its 365 million dollar section of microsofts business is small by comparison of its other divisions which total into the billions... the article is implying that despite xbox being a rousing success that it cant cover the entire company.

Kuraimen's not great with numbers or business man, I wouldn't try and explain it. Look at how he interprets the PS3(+PS2)/360 total sales figures
#24 Posted by TheEroica (13723 posts) -
[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="TheEroica"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] Is not such a massive success. According to the article it is a success but a modest one at best.

Incorrect again... the article clearly states that the xbox brand is a success but that its 365 million dollar section of microsofts business is small by comparison of its other divisions which total into the billions... the article is implying that despite xbox being a rousing success that it cant cover the entire company.

Kuraimen's not great with numbers or business man, I wouldn't try and explain it. Look at how he interprets the PS3(+PS2)/360 total sales figures

Thats because he only accepts numbers that slant to his bovine desires.... but ill go ahead and quote directly from the article anyway... "9. The Xbox was never going to make up the slack, and Microsoft can no longer afford to keep investing in it. In a year of relative gloom, Microsoft's Xbox has become a big bright spot for the company. Kinect is great technology, people are still buying the console, and it's been a great entry point for Microsoft to take over the living room. But, for a company like Microsoft, Xbox isn't enough. Microsoft had $21 billion in operating income last year. The Entertainment and Devices division, which is home to the Xbox had $364 million in operating income. So, as nice as Xbox is, it's not going to be enough to boost Microsoft if the rest of the business collapses."
#25 Posted by kuraimen (28078 posts) -
the article clearly states that the xbox brand is a success but that its 365 million dollar section of microsofts business is small by comparison TheEroica
Hence a moderate success... the 360 is no PS2...
#26 Posted by BPoole96 (22803 posts) -

Sony and MS are in an interesting position for next gen

#27 Posted by kuraimen (28078 posts) -
[QUOTE="TheEroica"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="TheEroica"] Incorrect again... the article clearly states that the xbox brand is a success but that its 365 million dollar section of microsofts business is small by comparison of its other divisions which total into the billions... the article is implying that despite xbox being a rousing success that it cant cover the entire company.

Kuraimen's not great with numbers or business man, I wouldn't try and explain it. Look at how he interprets the PS3(+PS2)/360 total sales figures

Thats because he only accepts numbers that slant to his bovine desires.... but ill go ahead and quote directly from the article anyway... "9. The Xbox was never going to make up the slack, and Microsoft can no longer afford to keep investing in it. In a year of relative gloom, Microsoft's Xbox has become a big bright spot for the company. Kinect is great technology, people are still buying the console, and it's been a great entry point for Microsoft to take over the living room. But, for a company like Microsoft, Xbox isn't enough. Microsoft had $21 billion in operating income last year. The Entertainment and Devices division, which is home to the Xbox had $364 million in operating income. So, as nice as Xbox is, it's not going to be enough to boost Microsoft if the rest of the business collapses."

Lol you're the one who added the word "massive" which is a testament of your fanboyism. Nowhere in there it says or implies "massive", it's just your wishful thinking speaking.
#28 Posted by Heil68 (45224 posts) -
[QUOTE="Heil68"]Well dropping core in 2009 surely didn't help. TheEroica
Heil ya gotz ta reeeeead.... xbox = massive success... everything else = bomb.

lolno...and if so then PS3 is one too..lol Thank you Sony.
#29 Posted by cainetao11 (17766 posts) -
[QUOTE="TheEroica"] the article clearly states that the xbox brand is a success but that its 365 million dollar section of microsofts business is small by comparison kuraimen
Hence a moderate success... the 360 is no PS2...

by that logic the ps3 surely isn't a ps2 either. The Wii is the closest thing to ps2. Very successful for Nintendo. The 360 has been a success. Is wedged a large market share away from Sony whether people here like it or not.
#30 Posted by dxmcat (1157 posts) -

As for the "people will lose their jobs" argument..........welcome to the economy?

IF all illicit drugs suddenly dissapeared from the country, people would lose their jobs. I'm so glad we have drug addicts and alcoholics, they are great people because they provide jobs!

srsly.

#31 Posted by kuraimen (28078 posts) -
by that logic the ps3 surely isn't a ps2 either.cainetao11
I never said that :|
#32 Posted by blue_hazy_basic (27891 posts) -

As for the "people will lose their jobs" argument..........welcome to the economy?

IF all illicit drugs suddenly dissapeared from the country, people would lose their jobs. I'm so glad we have drug addicts and alcoholics, they are great people because they provide jobs!

srsly.

dxmcat
Are you equating Windows, MS Office and the 360 to illegal drugs and alcoholism? lol
#33 Posted by coasterguy65 (6028 posts) -

Yahoo is about as reliable as VGChartz.

We're Yahoo...We've laid out a worse case scenario for MS. We've sort of been keeping track of it, and honestly we don't know if any of it is actually happening, but we took the time to write yet another article in the long line of articles we have written, that show we know pretty much nothing about the computer and gaming industries.

I think I'll hold onto my MS shares for a while longer.

#34 Posted by mems_1224 (47285 posts) -
I do think MS is in trouble, because with the exception of the 360 they seem to be swinging and missing with almost all their new innovations and products.blue_hazy_basic
Serves them right for killing the Zune :x
#35 Posted by TheEroica (13723 posts) -
[QUOTE="TheEroica"] the article clearly states that the xbox brand is a success but that its 365 million dollar section of microsofts business is small by comparison kuraimen
Hence a moderate success... the 360 is no PS2...

Your comprehension skills are compared to that of a ripened tomato kuri.... how is this that difficult for you? So by your math sonys game division is a phenomenal failure
#36 Posted by kuraimen (28078 posts) -
[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="TheEroica"] the article clearly states that the xbox brand is a success but that its 365 million dollar section of microsofts business is small by comparison TheEroica
Hence a moderate success... the 360 is no PS2...

Your comprehension skills are compared to that of a ripened tomato kuri.... how is this that difficult for you? So by your math sonys game division is a phenomenal failure

Apparently your comprehension skills are even worse then since you imaging terms like "massive" here and there.
#37 Posted by gensigns (1478 posts) -

Meanwhile, in the real world, SNE just hit an all-time low...

#38 Posted by TheEroica (13723 posts) -
[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="TheEroica"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] Hence a moderate success... the 360 is no PS2...

Your comprehension skills are compared to that of a ripened tomato kuri.... how is this that difficult for you? So by your math sonys game division is a phenomenal failure

Apparently your comprehension skills are even worse then since you imaging terms like "massive" here and there.

"BIG BRIGHT SPOT" sorry ill say that instead... The Xbox 360 has been a big bright spot of success for microsoft... happy?
#39 Posted by kuraimen (28078 posts) -
[QUOTE="TheEroica"][QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="TheEroica"] Your comprehension skills are compared to that of a ripened tomato kuri.... how is this that difficult for you? So by your math sonys game division is a phenomenal failure

Apparently your comprehension skills are even worse then since you imaging terms like "massive" here and there.

"BIG BRIGHT SPOT" sorry ill say that instead... The Xbox 360 has been a big bright spot of success for microsoft... happy?

Now that's more like it. Your reading comprehension skills are improving. In that context a big bright spot is spot on (no pun intended) considering how lousy their other areas are doing the 360 stands out but, as the article also implies, the 360 succes is barely noticeable for a company like this hence the gloom aspect of the whole news. The 360 is a succes for M$ but a moderate one that won't save them in the end it's what the article suggests.
#40 Posted by heretrix (37428 posts) -

When will these idiots realize that the ipad is a SUPPLEMENT not a replacement to a desktop. My company bought a lot of Ipads over the last couple of years as well, only to find out that they cannot replace desktops and at best, is a decent email and messaging device. For almost anything else you need a real computer, ESPECIALLY in the Enterprise sector. Microsoft will be ok.

#41 Posted by santoron (7775 posts) -

Fanboys just can't help themselves, I guess. They can't possibly limit their irrational hate to SYSTEMs in SYSTEM Wars, let's instead argue multinational corporations, the workings of none of you have a clue about, and whose videogame divisions represent a minority (in MS's case an infintesimal minority) of the company's earnings. :roll:

Yes, MS's core business has long term challenges to its' continued dominance, but for crpies sakes, this is a YahooFinance blog in which most of the sections begin with something along the lines of "We don't know". :roll: Why not just post what your local gas station attendant thinks next time? The only portion relevant for this forum is the Blurb about XBox... and it labels the division a "Bright Spot".:|

Seriously fanboys, if you're going to play Company Wars Rule Number One should be: YahooFinance = VGChartz.

#42 Posted by game_masta14 (3251 posts) -
Well this is a surprise, a DOOM article that isn't Sony related.
#43 Posted by crusadernm (1609 posts) -

I will never give up my desktop and laptop for a tablet.

#44 Posted by Vari3ty (11111 posts) -

Yahoo is a joke.

#45 Posted by StormyJoe (5497 posts) -

[QUOTE="TheEroica"][QUOTE="Heil68"]Well dropping core in 2009 surely didn't help. kuraimen
Heil ya gotz ta reeeeead.... xbox = massive success... everything else = bomb.

Is not such a massive success. According to the article it is a success but a modest one at best.

But, the TC stated that one of the reasons MS is doomed is because of Sony. That is not at all what the article says. It says that the success of the XBox brand has not been enough to offset losses in other areas.

#46 Posted by kuraimen (28078 posts) -

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="TheEroica"] Heil ya gotz ta reeeeead.... xbox = massive success... everything else = bomb.StormyJoe

Is not such a massive success. According to the article it is a success but a modest one at best.

But, the TC stated that one of the reasons MS is doomed is because of Sony. That is not at all what the article says. It says that the success of the XBox brand has not been enough to offset losses in other areas.

Yes, I'm not questioning what the article says. Just the TC's interpretation of the 360 being a "massive" succes.
#47 Posted by TheEroica (13723 posts) -
[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="TheEroica"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] Apparently your comprehension skills are even worse then since you imaging terms like "massive" here and there.

mas "BIG BRIGHT SPOT" sorry ill say that instead... The Xbox 360 has been a big bright spot of success for microsoft... happy?

Now that's more like it. Your reading comprehension skills are improving. In that context a big bright spot is spot on (no pun intended) considering how lousy their other areas are doing the 360 stands out but, as the article also implies, the 360 succes is barely noticeable for a company like this hence the gloom aspect of the whole news. The 360 is a succes for M$ but a moderate one that won't save them in the end it's what the article suggests.

Using the word massive falls in line with the context of the phrase "big bright spot" perfectly fine.... your inability to control your rabid fanboyism is now wreaking havoc through yet another perfectly acceptable thread of discussion. Dont refute the fact that you have zero understanding of the article because youve made it painfully apparent.
#48 Posted by APiranhaAteMyVa (2904 posts) -

When will these idiots realize that the ipad is a SUPPLEMENT not a replacement to a desktop. My company bought a lot of Ipads over the last couple of years as well, only to find out that they cannot replace desktops and at best, is a decent email and messaging device. For almost anything else you need a real computer, ESPECIALLY in the Enterprise sector. Microsoft will be ok.

heretrix
That is true. Even if Windows 8 does turn out a failed experiment and adoption rate ends up low, it won't destroy them.
#49 Posted by kuraimen (28078 posts) -
[QUOTE="TheEroica"][QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="TheEroica"]mas "BIG BRIGHT SPOT" sorry ill say that instead... The Xbox 360 has been a big bright spot of success for microsoft... happy?

Now that's more like it. Your reading comprehension skills are improving. In that context a big bright spot is spot on (no pun intended) considering how lousy their other areas are doing the 360 stands out but, as the article also implies, the 360 succes is barely noticeable for a company like this hence the gloom aspect of the whole news. The 360 is a succes for M$ but a moderate one that won't save them in the end it's what the article suggests.

Using the word massive falls in line with the context of the phrase "big bright spot" perfectly fine.... your inability to control your rabid fanboyism is now wreaking havoc through yet another perfectly acceptable thread of discussion. Dont refute the fact that you have zero understanding of the article because youve made it painfully apparent.

It makes sense only if you focus on a single phrase like "big bright spot" but ignore the complete context of the article. For basic reading comprehension the whole context is important not just an isolated phrase. That's why selective reading is a pretty normal behavior for fanboys like you.
#50 Posted by KungfuKitten (21142 posts) -

Point 1.
Isn't this rather because there have hardly been games pushing PC hardware? All speculation. I wouldn't be surprised to see PC sales slowing down over time due to development costs rising exponentially.
Point 2.
This has always been a worry for MS. Since there still isn't a very userfriendly and moneyfriendly alternative to Windows, this is also not happening yet.
Point 3.
Consumers are not all idiots. After repeating this pattern of Windows mishaps for some time, people were anticipating Windows 8 to be kind of a 'filler' OS till we see a significant upgrade. There is hardly any good reason to upgrade to Windows 8. A bad product selling poorly does have little to do with Apple... Is the writer working for Apple?
Point 4.
Is about phones, not PC's.
Point 5.
Is also about phones. Does the writer have a phone fetish? I thought Windows phones were crap to begin with.
Point 6.
Office is dying because there are volunteers making free office programs that work just as well. MS has been overcharging for office 'apps' for decades, it was going to die eventually. Nothing to do with Apple again.
Point 7.
No idea.
Point 8.
I'm not a microsoft freak, but 7 and 8 seem to boil down to "If MS stops selling their products, nobody is going to need the things they do for their products." Ok.
Point 9.
The Kinect is horrible as well, so why not mention that that is going to end as well?
Point 10.
Is just a joke I guess.

So, basically I don't really find the article very interesting and feel like I wasted time reading something so off. I agree Microsoft will have to adapt fast to extend their reign over the PC, but it is filled with wild speculation around some of the writer's wet dreams.