Microsoft dug its own grave knowing, what it was doing NOW what? And why defend?

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#1 Posted by Ravenlore_basic (3933 posts) -

Prior to E3  many rumors were spread far and wide all BAD news for Microsoft yet Microsoft did not head the warnings.  Microsoft went all in and now it looks bad for them.

 

Lets LOOK back to February.  

Sony had their Reveal, It was both good and bad.  They talk well saying how they Focused on the gamer. The first time I had my pitchfork and a torch... looking back I was a little harsh, though I am NOT into that whole Social and share button; its just not me.  Okay, I can understand that there are others that like to share, and YOUTUBE is full of people like that, and it is connected to gaming. Sharing has its functions and followers. I am also not a person who likes to be predicable, and my taste vary. SO that whole the console will have content that I may like was.... Meh at best.  SO after the Reveal was over I was really disapointed, though after rewatching the reveal now it does not seem so bad. Though this is after the distater that was Microsoft's reveal. 

After the reveal comparison to the PS4 and Xbox One began.  many rumors also floated around BUT many Lemmings responded with "RUMOR and not ture" Then the whole "Deal With IT" situation arrised and people felt affended by it. But that situation was sweaped under the run, though later Micosoft would repete such a situation. Telling its coustoers to "Deal WITH IT".

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cW28VSmXnCo&oref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DcW28VSmXnCo&has_verified=1

http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2013/05/21/one-final-round-up-of-every-xbox-720-rumor-to-date/ 

Later Lemmings responded with "WELL if Microsoft is doing this then Sony will too"  "Its the Publishdes that want it so Sony will have to follow"  yet 

http://kotaku.com/ea-denies-asking-microsoft-for-used-games-drm-512779915

Then came Microsoft's Reveal... MY mind just could not believe what I saw. And the following rage from Xbox fans toped Sony's fans anger over it Reveal. In fact for me I went back and watched the Sony reveal again and it seemed better in comparison.  And the Rumors increased and became clouded.  Some rumors seemed conformed then backed away from.  and peoples anger was there. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ekOtn7L1N0  

http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2013/06/11/playstation-4s-price-and-policies-humiliate-microsofts-xbox-one-at-e3/   

SO Microsoft knew about the Anger that was out there.  They knew that Adam Oath struck a nerve yet Microsoft did NOTHING to change their direction.  Microsoft then confirmed all the Rumors.  All the confusion, dubble talk, and dodging went away.  Still people though that Sony would follow "just you wait and see they said"  "Its what the publishers want and Sony will have not choice or they will not get any games"   

Well, SONY did NOT follow and made some fun of the situation. 

Sonys VP of Worldwide Studios spoke to Polygon about the feeling that accompanied these announcements, and the thought process leading up to them:

Its something that we believe in. We know gamers come first; we know what they want. I was personally overwhelmed with the massive explosion on Twitter, with everyone essentially begging, Please dont do this Sony, please dont do this PlayStation! It was so hard not to say, right away, Well, we never were going to do that, but now lets have a little fun and announce it in a fun way at the PlayStation press conference.  

There has been the rape joke, the Deal with it part 2 "if you want a non conected Xbox get an Xbox 360"  and on and on it went Microsoft just kept kicking themselves, and putting one foot after the other in their mouth.

Yet still people defend their practices?!!!!! I can not understand why. 

#2 Posted by charizard1605 (59616 posts) -
What rape joke was there? I'm sorry, but this just rubs me off thr wrong way. Microsoft has been handling the Xbox One horribly, and the system is a clusterf*ck of epic proportions, but why make shit up where none exists, why make a mountain out of a molehill? If what happened during the Killer Instinct reveal was a rape joke, then either you make three of them every week while talking to your female friends, or you don't have any female friends. OR you are thirteen, OR you are like, incredibly boring. 'Rape joke' my balls.
#3 Posted by DrTrafalgarLaw (4440 posts) -

What rape joke was there? 'Rape joke' my balls.charizard1605
It's poor banter expecially after the "Aris" Bakhtanians incident when in fighting games misogynistic comments prevail.

#5 Posted by always_explicit (3022 posts) -

Simple fact is nobody is going to be changing anybodies mind until people can actually see what the X1 is capable of.

Im picking one up day one because to me the PSbore looks boring. It cant do anything my PS3 cant do.

#6 Posted by Ravenlore_basic (3933 posts) -

What rape joke was there? I'm sorry, but this just rubs me off thr wrong way. Microsoft has been handling the Xbox One horribly, and the system is a clusterf*ck of epic proportions, but why make shit up where none exists, why make a mountain out of a molehill? If what happened during the Killer Instinct reveal was a rape joke, then either you make three of them every week while talking to your female friends, or you don't have any female friends. OR you are thirteen, OR you are like, incredibly boring. 'Rape joke' my balls.charizard1605

If it happned at a frat party.. NO biggie... YOU would think at a E3 event with many people watching they would have more tact than what they had. It was more sad than anything. 

www.foxnews.com/tech/2013/06/12/microsofts-rape-joke-at-e3-gaming-event-sparks-outrage/

E3 audience offended by "rape joke" at Microsoft Xbox One event - CBS News

#7 Posted by JustSignedUp (1148 posts) -

got it

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Sweenix
can u make ur sig to let the girl run out of the shot then repeat
#8 Posted by RR360DD (12303 posts) -

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]What rape joke was there? I'm sorry, but this just rubs me off thr wrong way. Microsoft has been handling the Xbox One horribly, and the system is a clusterf*ck of epic proportions, but why make shit up where none exists, why make a mountain out of a molehill? If what happened during the Killer Instinct reveal was a rape joke, then either you make three of them every week while talking to your female friends, or you don't have any female friends. OR you are thirteen, OR you are like, incredibly boring. 'Rape joke' my balls.Ravenlore_basic

If it happned at a frat party.. NO biggie... YOU would think at a E3 event with many people watching they would have more tact than what they had. It was more sad than anything. 

www.foxnews.com/tech/2013/06/12/microsofts-rape-joke-at-e3-gaming-event-sparks-outrage/

E3 audience offended by "rape joke" at Microsoft Xbox One event - CBS News

LOL Fox
#9 Posted by Floppy_Jim (25830 posts) -
I don't get the fuss about the "rape joke" where there's like a hundred other things people can criticise them for.
#10 Posted by Ravenlore_basic (3933 posts) -

I don't get the fuss about the "rape joke" where there's like a hundred other things people can criticise them for.Floppy_Jim

TOO true, which is why it was a side note.  A drop in the over flowing bucket.  But it does have a cumulating effect. It shows how Microsoft continues to stick their foot in their mouth. Also, there are plenty of people who will add this as another reason why they will not get an Xbox One. 

#11 Posted by bezza2011 (2687 posts) -

Simple fact is nobody is going to be changing anybodies mind until people can actually see what the X1 is capable of.

Im picking one up day one because to me the PSbore looks boring. It cant do anything my PS3 cant do.

always_explicit

Wait what?? PS4 has all the tv apps stuff in it aswel. They just didn't make a massive thing about it. What has the xbox one got??? a tv guide. because thats all i've got from them, what other aspects do they have what the ps4 doesn't do. would you please explain to me, what a xbox one can do over a ps4.

#12 Posted by Mr720fan (2775 posts) -

lol, im getting xbox 1 because it is a far sophisticated experience compared to PS4. Everything you can do on the PS4 you can do on the Xbox 1, its not the same, not even close the other way around. There are so many more features and advantages to the xbox 1 than the PS4 it isnt even funny.

#13 Posted by shawn30 (4367 posts) -

I voted for the first option, but my real answer is both the first and second option. I read and reread all of MS's policies as I have a family and am concerned about privacy. Im a comsumer, a gamer, and a IT specialist. DRM and the 24 hour a day check in mean as much to me as a flea farting in the woods. I can argue all how it itsnt anti-consumer and how so much written about the Xbox One doesnt explain the facts in detail, but I have a life and stuff to do. I refuse to repost the same thing over and over and over to people who aren't seraching for a honest conversation/debate, but juts wnat to troll anbd bitch MS out.

 

I prefer the Xbox One games line-up to the PS4. I want motion and voice controls and and a all-in-one set-up. I want the NFL fantasy football thing and Skype and the original Halo show and Halo 5 and I will pay the extra 100 bucks for this system because I uinappologetically feel it is worth it :) I do not want a PS4. It is not because its from Japan or I hate Sony. I dont care for its gaming line-up sand I want more than a new gaming console as I do more than call on my cell and I will do more than game on my system.

 

That is whay I want and will buy a Xbox One. And why I won't, at least this year, get a PS4. Its doesnt do enough for me, period.

#14 Posted by Heil68 (46134 posts) -
I make a living off of MS's OS's and SQL Server, so to that fact they are A ok with me. Gaming they lost their way in 2009 and haven't fully recovered. I'm concerned.
#15 Posted by Mr720fan (2775 posts) -

I voted for the first option, but my real answer is both the first and second option. I read and reread all of MS's policies as I have a family and am concerned about privacy. Im a comsumer, a gamer, and a IT specialist. DRM and the 24 hour a day check in mean as much to me as a flea farting in the woods. I can argue all how it itsnt anti-consumer and how so much written about the Xbox One doesnt explain the facts in detail, but I have a life and stuff to do. I refuse to repost the same thing over and over and over to people who aren't seraching for a honest conversation/debate, but juts wnat to troll anbd bitch MS out.

I prefer the Xbox One games line-up to the PS4. I want motion and voice controls and and a all-in-one set-up. I want the NFL fantasy football thing and Skype and the original Halo show and Halo 5 and I will pay the extra 100 bucks for this system because I uinappologetically feel it is worth it :) I do not want a PS4. It is not because its from Japan or I hate Sony. I dont care for its gaming line-up sand I want more than a new gaming console as I do more than call on my cell and I will do more than game on my system.

That is whay I want and will buy a Xbox One. And why I won't, at least this year, get a PS4. Its doesnt do enough for me, period.

shawn30

omg this guy just owns, so much more of an advanced thinker than most in here.

#16 Posted by Mr720fan (2775 posts) -

I make a living off of MS's OS's and SQL Server, so to that fact they are A ok with me. Gaming they lost their way in 2009 and haven't fully recovered. I'm concerned. Heil68

heli if you get x1 and have xbox live, ill put you on my family sharing plan, i like you that much my cow friend

#17 Posted by TheRealBigRich (735 posts) -

Simple fact is nobody is going to be changing anybodies mind until people can actually see what the X1 is capable of.

Im picking one up day one because to me the PSbore looks boring. It cant do anything my PS3 cant do.

always_explicit

I feel the same way sometimes

#18 Posted by shellcase86 (1934 posts) -

There's a psychology term for it (defending a product brand despite said brand/product not being beneficial to you the consumer), but hey, people have their preferences.

#19 Posted by sebbi11 (1190 posts) -
Easy to answer, because LIVE has given me a solid online experience since 2001, my PS3`s online is a joke, so much problems, even communicating with friends is (was) a challenge most of the time. MS does this so much better. I`m a grown man, i wan`t things to work and i honor those that build solid stuff. and i don`t like many of the sony exclusives, especially japanese games, they seem childish, sentimental and "overacted" for my taste.
#20 Posted by Ackad (3183 posts) -
Am I the only person who had a hard time comprehending TC's grammar?
#21 Posted by blackace (21228 posts) -
Only thing I care about are their games and I do love their controllers. They blow Sony's controls away in many areas.
#22 Posted by cheesie253 (878 posts) -

[QUOTE="shawn30"]

I voted for the first option, but my real answer is both the first and second option. I read and reread all of MS's policies as I have a family and am concerned about privacy. Im a comsumer, a gamer, and a IT specialist. DRM and the 24 hour a day check in mean as much to me as a flea farting in the woods. I can argue all how it itsnt anti-consumer and how so much written about the Xbox One doesnt explain the facts in detail, but I have a life and stuff to do. I refuse to repost the same thing over and over and over to people who aren't seraching for a honest conversation/debate, but juts wnat to troll anbd bitch MS out.

I prefer the Xbox One games line-up to the PS4. I want motion and voice controls and and a all-in-one set-up. I want the NFL fantasy football thing and Skype and the original Halo show and Halo 5 and I will pay the extra 100 bucks for this system because I uinappologetically feel it is worth it :) I do not want a PS4. It is not because its from Japan or I hate Sony. I dont care for its gaming line-up sand I want more than a new gaming console as I do more than call on my cell and I will do more than game on my system.

That is whay I want and will buy a Xbox One. And why I won't, at least this year, get a PS4. Its doesnt do enough for me, period.

Mr720fan

omg this guy just owns, so much more of an advanced thinker than most in here.

Well it's just a non fan boy approach. Which is nice to hear. While I agree that the One will be just fine and a great system I also think the PS4 will be a great system and will have one too.
#23 Posted by cheesie253 (878 posts) -
Only thing I care about are their games and I do love their controllers. They blow Sony's controls away in many areas. blackace
That's what matters is the games. If you don't like a systems exclusives that's fine but to bash because you are a fanboy is stupid. Fun to argue/debate with them though.
#24 Posted by GONtheSKYLORD (3026 posts) -
All of those reasons are stupid. Sorry
#25 Posted by Deevoshun (858 posts) -

I voted for the first option, but my real answer is both the first and second option. I read and reread all of MS's policies as I have a family and am concerned about privacy. Im a comsumer, a gamer, and a IT specialist. DRM and the 24 hour a day check in mean as much to me as a flea farting in the woods. I can argue all how it itsnt anti-consumer and how so much written about the Xbox One doesnt explain the facts in detail, but I have a life and stuff to do. I refuse to repost the same thing over and over and over to people who aren't seraching for a honest conversation/debate, but juts wnat to troll anbd bitch MS out.

 

I prefer the Xbox One games line-up to the PS4. I want motion and voice controls and and a all-in-one set-up. I want the NFL fantasy football thing and Skype and the original Halo show and Halo 5 and I will pay the extra 100 bucks for this system because I uinappologetically feel it is worth it :) I do not want a PS4. It is not because its from Japan or I hate Sony. I dont care for its gaming line-up sand I want more than a new gaming console as I do more than call on my cell and I will do more than game on my system.

 

That is whay I want and will buy a Xbox One. And why I won't, at least this year, get a PS4. Its doesnt do enough for me, period.

shawn30
this +1
#26 Posted by Ravenlore_basic (3933 posts) -

Simple fact is nobody is going to be changing anybodies mind until people can actually see what the X1 is capable of.

Im picking one up day one because to me the PSbore looks boring. It cant do anything my PS3 cant do.  (is this necessary?)

always_explicit

TRUE no one is changing anyones mind.  If someone likes the Xbox One that is great. Its just intresting to me with such (in my perspective) disregard for their customers that people would accept it with zeal even. 

My position is that Xbox One will have great games, ITS the POLICIES AND MICROSOFT'S RESPONCE to people that ruffles my feathers.  If Sony the situation was reversed I the only thing that would change is that Sony I would wonder why people would buy a PS4. 

#27 Posted by Ravenlore_basic (3933 posts) -

lol, im getting xbox 1 because it is a far sophisticated experience compared to PS4. Everything you can do on the PS4 you can do on the Xbox 1, its not the same, not even close the other way around. There are so many more features and advantages to the xbox 1 than the PS4 it isnt even funny.

Mr720fan

are you talking about Kinect, and voice?  Cable control??  Really??? could you explain more or are you just being sarcastic?!