Microsoft announces mojang buyout - its official

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#153 LJS9502_basic
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@b4x said:

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@b4x said:

How many copies of Minecraft have sold on the 360 and PC alone? Just wow is all I can say......

Way to miss the point dude......

You call what you said a point........ Please elaborate on the point you were trying to convey to everyone...

I myself, saw zero POINTS or Values in the comment by YOU.

I saw garbage... Please do explain.

You saw garbage because your MS glasses filtered it. If you take an IP and use it on a platform with a small demographic then yes it effectively kills the IP. And while not much will happen with the current version until it's run it's course....new versions will be niche. But you wouldn't know that because as I said MS glasses....

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**** knows clyde. All I know is that it was a massive waste of 2.5 bill. They could have funded multiple top class studios for that price. Fucking morons. Instead they buy a company that made an indie game that is already out on it's major compeditors console. A console that is handing M$ their arsehole btw.

MS are shit at this buisness. They are so... lackluster. Just like Windows 3.1 vs Amiga Workbench. There was no comparison lol. 640k limit, 8.3 file names. You name it, anything illogical and stupid, M$ has done it.

Holy ****, people really are morons, aren't they.

"Microsoft’s impending purchase of Mojang, the Swedish developer with 100 million players of its open world Minecraft game, is more aimed at pulling users onto the software company's obscure mobile platform than its better known PC system or Xbox game console.

The software company's Windows Phone system has only 2.5 percent of the world's smartphone market, and its Surface tablet barely more, according to tech research firm IDC. Growth is hampered because many app and game developers ignore it.

Enter Minecraft, which is the top paid app both on Apple Inc's (AAPL.O) iOS and Google Inc's (GOOGL.O) Android systems. Microsoft will unveil a $2.5 billion deal to buy its owner on Monday, according to a source briefed on the matter.

“It seems like Microsoft is looking at Mojang and Minecraft as a way to tap into this enormous cultural phenomenon," said Dave Bisceglia, Chief Executive of independent game studio Tap Lab. "If you look at iOS, Minecraft has been a top-grossing game for quite some time, if Microsoft could on Windows phones give players a unique and compelling experience that you can't get on the other platforms, that could be a driver to sell devices to existing Minecraft fans.”

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"We don’t view this acquisition as a signal of Microsoft's intent to double down on Xbox but consider it an attempt to better address mobile on a cross-platform basis," said Nomura analyst Rick Sherlund in a note to clients this week. "This also appears to be consistent with (Microsoft) CEO Satya Nadella’s mobile and cloud strategy."

Microsoft is expected to pay close to $2.5 billion for Mojang, or about 8 times sales last year. That is small change for Microsoft, which has $86 billion in cash and short-term investments. But it is relatively large and expensive for game company acquisitions, which do not have a stellar record of success.

Japan's SoftBank Corp (9984.T) paid $1.53 billion for a 50 percent stake in Finnish game maker Supercell last year at about 3.5 times projected annual sales. Electronic Arts' (EA.O) $750 million acquisition of PopCap in 2011 was valued around 10 to 11 times sales.

Joost van Dreunen, Chief Executive of research firm SuperData, said the price tag ”seems like a lot for a title that has certainly not peaked but is certainly not in its initial frenzy."

He doubts that Minecraft can really help Windows phone sales: “Minecraft itself has done very well on the iOS platform, but it’s better on the iPad, the screen is bigger," he said. "I don’t see why this could drive handset sales.”

For the last time people, MS isn't going to waste 2.5Bn on an IP to boost sales of their console.

The issue with this aquisition is the valuation. MC's value mlies somewhere in 500M to 1B. 2.5 B can only mean one fo 2 things:

1- MS has an idea of how to leverage the brand to both profit of it, aswell has increase it's Phone and Tablet business

2- MS will operate at a loss, but plans to use MC to increase sales, somehow.

I can't believe i'm seeing people challenge MS, who's credit rating and profit margins rise on ayearly basis, on a business venture that goes beyond gaming, while fanboying Sony, teh same company with horrible credit rating, estimate -2Bn reserves, mediocre equity, and still invests in VR.

Holy shit

They over paid. That is a fact. I doubt Windows Phone will see a massive rise in relevancy because of Minecraft.

Agreed. That valuation is insane and no one is going to choose a smartphone because of Minecraft. Which means they have to leave it open to all platforms or their valuation is even more absurd. That leaves buying the company in large part for the employees which is equally absurd because their is no guarantee they can create a 2nd success of the same level and they can walk away any time.

Also, who gives a shit if it is 8 times gross sales? It is 20 times earnings and it isn't like MS is going to reduce their cost structure.

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Announcement day! Can't wait to read Notch's spin. Gonna be a lot of worried kids and PC players drifting away from Mojang now.

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It won't be Xbone exclusive, it will be Microsoft exclusive. It will be on Windows, Xbox and Windows Phone.

If they do anything to the PC market that made the game possible, you can bet your ass there will be DDOS attacks on the very being of Microsoft. Minecraft fans are hardcore.

But the Minecraft is already on PS3/PS4.How it will be Microsoft exclusive....??

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@AtariKidX said:

@foxhound_fox said:

It won't be Xbone exclusive, it will be Microsoft exclusive. It will be on Windows, Xbox and Windows Phone.

If they do anything to the PC market that made the game possible, you can bet your ass there will be DDOS attacks on the very being of Microsoft. Minecraft fans are hardcore.

But the Minecraft is already on PS3/PS4.How it will be Microsoft exclusive....??

Everyone playing it on a Sony console, connected to the internet will go to launch the game and poof...............................gone. Mandatory uninstall courtesy of Microsoft.

Not really gonna happen but the lol is there.

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#158 foxhound_fox
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@AtariKidX said:

@foxhound_fox said:

It won't be Xbone exclusive, it will be Microsoft exclusive. It will be on Windows, Xbox and Windows Phone.

If they do anything to the PC market that made the game possible, you can bet your ass there will be DDOS attacks on the very being of Microsoft. Minecraft fans are hardcore.

But the Minecraft is already on PS3/PS4.How it will be Microsoft exclusive....??

Likely they won't get further content updates. Whatever version that exists now is what they will get.

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http://news.xbox.com/2014/09/games-minecraft-to-join-microsoft

Today is an incredibly exciting day for our team as Mojang and the Minecraft franchise join Microsoft. Minecraft is one of the most popular video games of all time, with more than 100 million downloads, on PC alone, from players since its launch in 2009. Minecraft inspires millions to create together, connects people across the globe, and is a community that is among the most active and passionate in the world.

Our relationship with Mojang began when we initially talked to the team about bringing Minecraft to the console. Minecraft quickly became the top online game on Xbox Live, with over two billion hours played on Xbox 360 in the last two years. That working relationship set the ground work for other opportunities. We’ve long seen the incredible potential of Minecraft.

At Microsoft, we believe in the power of content to unite people. Minecraft adds diversity to our game portfolio and helps us reach new gamers across multiple platforms. Gaming is the top activity across devices and we see great potential to continue to grow the Minecraft community and nurture the franchise. That is why we plan to continue to make Minecraft available across platforms – including iOS, Android and PlayStation, in addition to Xbox and PC.

The Minecraft community is passionate and diverse, ranging across all ages and demographics. We respect the brand and independent spirit that has made Minecraft great, and we’ll carry on the tradition of innovation to move the franchise forward. Our investments in cloud, Xbox Live and mobile technology will enable players to benefit from richer and faster worlds, more powerful development tools, and more opportunities to connect with the Minecraft community.

We’re excited to confirm that MINECON will continue next year. We’ll look to create even more ways for the vibrant community of YouTuber’s, innovators, bloggers and players to connect with each other – both in person and online. We will have much more to share in the coming months.

The Minecraft team’s unique vision, creative energy and innovative mindset make them a perfect fit alongside our other global studios. Microsoft Studios includes 343 Industries, Turn 10 Studios, and Lionhead Studios just to name a few. These industry-leading game studios within Microsoft that have had great success with beloved games and massively popular franchises like Halo, Forza, and Fable. We’re excited to welcome Mojang to the Microsoft family and we are thrilled to support the success and longevity of Minecraft for years to come.

Phil

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source - announcement coming monday

''Mojang revenue topped $237 million in 2012, while a Wall Street Journal article reports that number to have hit $326 million for 2013, which in turn translates to almost $128 million in profit'' <<this is with minecraft being avaible on all platforms, if they make it x1 exclsuive how long will it take for ms to recoup that 2.5bn? #lol

here is an image of ms gaming division p/l. as u can see the division overall has been nothing but a loss. up till 2012 anyway, no data since then

how stupid are ms? lems should be super pissed right now, instead of investing that 2.5bn in new games and opening new studios these clowns are buying out minecraft dev, a game thats on the system anyway

makes 0 sense to me, what are they going to do? make it x1 exclusive? its already out on ps4

How stupid are you for regurgitating a graph that is proven to be bullshit?

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#161  Edited By uninspiredcup  Online
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After all the big man person talk and Microsoft men attacks, the Minecraft man threw long term personal dignity succumbing to the vulturous nature of greed.

In Japan, this would have ended in Seppuku. Such was the level of dishonor.

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#162  Edited By Heil68
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Next game will be a mulit plat

Lems hate Indies.

RACK 'EM

NEXT

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@uninspiredcup said:

After all the big man person talk and Microsoft men attacks, the Minecraft man threw long term personal dignity succumbing to the vulturous nature of greed.

In Japan, this would have ended in Seppuku. Such was the level of dishonor.

Shamefull display

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''There’s no reason for the development, sales, and support of the PC/Mac, Xbox 360, Xbox One, PS3, PS4, Vita, iOS, and Android versions of Minecraft to stop. Of course, Microsoft can’t make decisions for other companies or predict the choices that they might make in the future.'

What about the Mojang staff? What’s happening to you guys?

Though it’s too early to confirm which of us will continue working on Minecraft or other projects, we predict that the vast majority (if not all) Mojangstas will continue to work at Mojang for the time being.

The founders: Notch, Carl, and Jakob are leaving. We don’t know what they’re planning. It won’t be Minecraft-related but it will probably be cool.''

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#165  Edited By DEadliNE-Zero0
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@ghostwarrior786 said:

The founders: Notch, Carl, and Jakob are leaving. We don’t know what they’re planning. It won’t be Minecraft-related but it will probably be cool.''

They could assemble a bigger team and studio, and fund their own AAA game now if they wanted.

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#166 rockydog1111
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I have to question ms motives for this. Mobile? Plus the creators are leaving. Sounds like a bad deal to me but i don't know all the details.

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#167 tormentos
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You know what i think that MS bough this developer because after the xbox one they will probably leave the hardware market and just make games for other consoles and PC..

It makes allot of sense,most of MS money do come from software not hardware,and the xbox has been a money pit for them for years.

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#168 General_Solo76
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Am I the only one who simply doesn't care?

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#169  Edited By Shewgenja
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Lemmings, all your Live fees have boiled down to this moment. Please be excited.

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#170  Edited By General_Solo76
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I don't understand how it costs 2.5 billion to aquire this company that has 1 hit game. Capcom is open to selling their company and their market cap is worth just over 1 billion, yet they have many hit franchises. Megaman, Resident Evil, Onimusha, Street Fighter, Monster Hunter, etc....

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#171  Edited By Shewgenja
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@general_solo76 said:

I don't understand how it costs 2.5 billion to aquire this company that has 1 hit game. Capcom is open to selling their company and their market cap is worth just over 1 billion, yet they have many hit franchises. Megaman, Resident Evil, Onimusha, Street Fighter, Monster Hunter, etc....

That's because, at the end of the day, Microsofts gaming division is run by bean counters not gamers. Minecraft literally prints money. That's all that matters.

Jump In(tm).

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Fake Kaz nails it.

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#173 Animal-Mother
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This has to be the biggest joke this year.

2.5 billion for ONE game?

Is there market potential? Sure.... But this is absolutely insane.

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#174  Edited By Shewgenja
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They should buy out the maker of Farmville and then the maker of Flappy Birds next.

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@tormentos said:

You know what i think that MS bough this developer because after the xbox one they will probably leave the hardware market and just make games for other consoles and PC..

It makes allot of sense,most of MS money do come from software not hardware,and the xbox has been a money pit for them for years.

Tomato getting dumber confirmed

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#177  Edited By GrenadeLauncher
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LOL just heard in the news that MS expects it to be a break even purchase by 2015.

Bought for $2.5 billion, Minecraft brought in $300 million for Mojang last year.

How

in

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#178 Jacanuk
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@FoxbatAlpha said:

What troubles me is they could have just bought Sony for $2 billion.

Nice troll comment.

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#179 edwardecl
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You could fund 20+ AAA games with that amount of cash, what are they thinking?

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@edwardecl said:

You could fund 20+ AAA games with that amount of cash, what are they thinking?

facepalm

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#181  Edited By lglz1337
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i'm looking forward for another rare studio F***** by MS, can't wait!

oh and lemmings don't love indies wasted money MS, you could spent 2 bil for 50 or so AAA games

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Cows are mad again.Iol.

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#184  Edited By Wanderer5
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Well congrats to them I guess, but $2.5b is so freaking high, and Mojang hasn't really seem to prove themselves outside of minecraft.

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@Wanderer5 said:

Well congrats to them I guess, but $2.5b seems so freaking high, and Mojang hasn't really seem to prove themselves outside of minecraft.

it's less than 1.5% of MS's money. Probably going to closer to 1.1% after some money gains liek sales from other platforms.

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Waste of $$. Notch can live free for the rest of his life now. Lucky man!

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@Jacanuk said:

@FoxbatAlpha said:

What troubles me is they could have just bought Sony for $2 billion.

Nice troll comment.

I am sorry if you are offended by trolling in SW. So very fucking sorry.

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#191 pyro1245
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Hah, nice burn, Sony.... kinda

Also that seems like a pretty high price for a game that most everyone already has. How do they plan to recoup that? Minecraft 2?....

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#193  Edited By FoxbatAlpha
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In lieu on the innuendo, in the end-o, my Nintendo.

Dat world domination.

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@Desmonic said:

Also, this account is still gold! lol

This guy is fucking gold.

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#195  Edited By R4gn4r0k  Online
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@Shewgenja said:

@general_solo76 said:

I don't understand how it costs 2.5 billion to aquire this company that has 1 hit game. Capcom is open to selling their company and their market cap is worth just over 1 billion, yet they have many hit franchises. Megaman, Resident Evil, Onimusha, Street Fighter, Monster Hunter, etc....

That's because, at the end of the day, Microsofts gaming division is run by bean counters not gamers. Minecraft literally prints money. That's all that matters.

Jump In(tm).

Yeah. They just look at trends.

Sure, Capcom has many great franchises compared to Mojang's one hit. But they'd rather go for the one game that is successful instead of a dozen that may have been successful but just don't have a trend going atm like Minecraft.

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I don't see how Minecraft is worth $2 billion.

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@cantloginnow said:

Cows are mad again.Iol.

yup

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#198 mave198
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What a bunch of jerkoffs MS are.

1000 better things to spend that money on.

TLHBO

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@deadline-zero0 said:

@Desmonic said:

Also, this account is still gold! lol

This guy is fucking gold.

ZING !!!

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#200  Edited By ReadingRainbow4
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That fake Kaz twitter is the best thing to happen to gaming.

This acquisition is a joke if the founders of minecraft are leaving, that pretty much takes all the value out of it.

Rare 2.0 incoming.

Maybe in another 5-10 years MS can offer another couple of billion for what notch has planned next.