March Is when the 8th Gen Wars will REALLY starts. (2ND SON)

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#1 Posted by John_Matherson (2031 posts) -

Additional ‘inFamous: Second Son’ European collector’s edition images revealed

The French branch of Amazon has revealed several new images for the European collector’s edition of the upcoming PS4 exclusive video game, “inFamous: Second Son.” According to a listing update from theshopping website on Dec. 16, the packaging for the bundle (as well as another image featuring the contents) was shown off.

The European collector’s edition features a distinctive game case based of Delsin’s jacket. The other physical extras include a bottle opener, collectible coin, replica beanie and a few badges. Customers will also receive Cole’s Legacy Legendary Vest for use in the open-world action-adventure video game. You can check out the new images of the special bundle, as well as some screenshots from the latest installment from the “inFamous” series, in the slideshow to the left of this article.

“inFamous: Second Son” features a new main character with the aforesaid Delsin. The rebellious young man has the ability to use neon, smoke and other superpowers. An exclusive DLC bonus will explain what happened to the previous protagonist, Cole, as well as showing the events that are going to lead into the plot for the forthcoming title.

Sony Computer Entertainment will be releasing “inFamous: Second Son” for Europe and North America on March 21. The software product is currently in development at Sucker Punch Productions, the same studio responsible for the previous installments in the series.

The Powers of inFAMOUS Second Son: Smoke vs. Neon

Sure when you play inFAMOUS Second Son, you're going to "enjoy your power." But which one are you going to enjoy the most?

Delsin absorbs the ability to control Smoke in his hometown, and then goes to Seattle to find more conduits and gain their powers, starting with Neon. These power sources have different strengths and weaknesses, requiring you to change up your tactics. This has led to an ongoing debate on the design team about which power is actually the best.

Darren Bridges (Power Designer): Ok, is this really a debate? Smoke is the clear winner. There's nothing better than dashing in and choke-slamming some DUP stooge, then firing a Cinder Blast that destroys the tower his buddies are standing on.

Jaime Griesemer (Lead Designer): Sure, if you want to get your hands dirty, Smoke is great. But Neon is clean and streamlined. You're basically firing lasers out of your hands, so your're a natural sniper. With Neon, combat is all about precision from a distance. Each shot hits hard, especially if you're targeting the enemy's weak points. Neon lets you dissect a squad of Dupes like a glowing purple surgeon.

Darren: Sniping is cool, but Smoke lets you travel through air vents and launch yourself out over the rooftops. It turns the entire city into your own personal playground. And smoke is everywhere -- if you run out, you just damage a car and get some more. That's like being able to punch a cow and make hamburgers fly out.

Jaime: Interesting metaphor... But who needs to go on a "vent hunt" when you can just run straight up a wall, instead?! Neon gets you where you want to go, fast. And enemies aren't going to be able to hit a streak of light. Plus, draining Neon looks cooler.

Darren: Orbital Drop [...mic drop]

Jaime: Dude, Not fair. You know PR won't let me talk about the Neon -- thing -- that you almost see right at the end of this new teaser video.

Sorry Lemmings but....

YOU ARE NOT IN CONTROL!

#2 Edited by John_Matherson (2031 posts) -

Not sure if I like the character. He looks like a brodude. And I can't stand brodudes.

#3 Posted by YD_11 (1574 posts) -

I guess for cows it does since the ps4 doesn't have much game wise until then. We will welcome you to the party in march!

#4 Posted by Heil68 (42703 posts) -

I might have to get the deluxe set so I can rock that vest.

#5 Edited by silversix_ (13648 posts) -

@YD_11 said:

I guess for cows it does since the ps4 doesn't have much game wise until then. We will welcome you to the party in march!

and what does X1 has? A forced Kinect is its only exclusive worth mentioning. On thread, not excited about 2nd Son but may buy if there's absolutely nothing to play

#6 Posted by John_Matherson (2031 posts) -

@YD_11 said:

I guess for cows it does since the ps4 doesn't have much game wise until then. We will welcome you to the party in march!

LOL OOHhh Forza 5...I feel so sad...I'm missing out on so much!

#7 Posted by Masculus (2801 posts) -

I think nobody will give a shit. Dark Souls 2 will be released around the same date. Farewell life.

#8 Edited by MasterChiefYolo (35 posts) -

We're over a year into it regardless of what you want to believe. Just because PS4 owners get their first worthwhile game in March doesn't mean that's when Next Gen starts. You're such a sad little fucker with your constant goal post moving. Deal with it, bitch.

#9 Edited by Xaero_Gravity (8681 posts) -

@Heil68 said:

I might have to get the deluxe set so I can rock that vest.

Last time I checked it was only in Europe. We only get the damn beanie. :(

#10 Posted by MonsieurX (28743 posts) -

Considering it went from 9 to 7.5,not sure what to expect of this one

#11 Edited by John_Matherson (2031 posts) -

@masterchiefyolo said:

We're over a year into it regardless of what you want to believe. Just because PS4 owners get their first worthwhile game in March doesn't mean that's when Next Gen starts. You're such a sad little fucker with your constant goal post moving. Deal with it, bitch.

Yeah...your nickname is MasterChiefYOLO...that tells me two things...

1. You enjoy Halo games and you're an Xbox live junkie and lembot troll...

2. You use the acronym YOLO, which means that before that asshole Drake came out with his stupid song, you were stupid enough to assume you had 9 lives...

And Overall, I'm just going to go ahead and shrug you off. You're not worth my time...You even suck at being a stupid troll.

And wtf is with people always copying my profile pic?

#12 Posted by John_Matherson (2031 posts) -

@Heil68 said:

I might have to get the deluxe set so I can rock that vest.

Last time I checked it was only in Europe. We only get the damn beanie. :(

Hey, someone keeps telling me to vote for you in a PM...I'm voting for my fcking self!

#13 Edited by Newhopes (4445 posts) -

Another boring ImFamous game I won't be buying.

#14 Edited by Xaero_Gravity (8681 posts) -

@Xaero_Gravity said:

@Heil68 said:

I might have to get the deluxe set so I can rock that vest.

Last time I checked it was only in Europe. We only get the damn beanie. :(

Hey, someone keeps telling me to vote for you in a PM...I'm voting for my fcking self!

I have no idea who keeps doing that, sorry about that. D:

#15 Edited by mems_1224 (45799 posts) -

not a next gen game. its infamous, you know what you're getting. its gonna be the same as the first two.

#17 Posted by John_Matherson (2031 posts) -

@John_Matherson said:

@Xaero_Gravity said:

@Heil68 said:

I might have to get the deluxe set so I can rock that vest.

Last time I checked it was only in Europe. We only get the damn beanie. :(

Hey, someone keeps telling me to vote for you in a PM...I'm voting for my fcking self!

I have no idea who keeps doing that, sorry about that. D:

Haha yeah just giving you a hard time...lol I know it's some dumb troll

#18 Edited by John_Matherson (2031 posts) -

@John_Matherson:

And now you're a mad little fucker. ROFL.

Hmm...I'm guessing I've already owned you before and now you're back with an Alt to cry...Yeah...you're done.

#19 Edited by Whiteblade999 (5536 posts) -

Dark Souls 2, your argument is invalid.

#20 Posted by R4gn4r0k (16125 posts) -

Bwahaha, that's the dumbest collector's edition I've ever seen.

I'm looking forward to playing this though, but first I really need to get around to finishing the first 2.

#21 Edited by blackace (19749 posts) -

@YD_11 said:

I guess for cows it does since the ps4 doesn't have much game wise until then. We will welcome you to the party in march!

LOL OOHhh Forza 5...I feel so sad...I'm missing out on so much!

Your lose. lol!! Killer Instinct, Dead Rising and even Powerstar Golf are all great games. The only thing I'm playing on PS4 is KZ:SF and ACIV. Already tired of KZ:SF. ACIV is great though. Where the hell is Rime & HellDivers? I would be a lot more satisfied if those had been released this year.

#22 Edited by Animal-Mother (26228 posts) -

@John_Matherson said:

@Xaero_Gravity said:

@Heil68 said:

I might have to get the deluxe set so I can rock that vest.

Last time I checked it was only in Europe. We only get the damn beanie. :(

Hey, someone keeps telling me to vote for you in a PM...I'm voting for my fcking self!

I have no idea who keeps doing that, sorry about that. D:

You sir have opened a can of worms. You have actually lost my vote because of it.

#23 Edited by Xaero_Gravity (8681 posts) -

@Xaero_Gravity said:

@John_Matherson said:

@Xaero_Gravity said:

@Heil68 said:

I might have to get the deluxe set so I can rock that vest.

Last time I checked it was only in Europe. We only get the damn beanie. :(

Hey, someone keeps telling me to vote for you in a PM...I'm voting for my fcking self!

I have no idea who keeps doing that, sorry about that. D:

You sir have opened a can of worms. You have actually lost my vote because of it.

I guess "Vote for me and I'll vote for you" wasn't as successful as I thought it would be. :(

I wasn't expecting to win anyways. xD

#24 Posted by jg4xchamp (46683 posts) -

Infamous games are fun for like the 2/3rds mark. Then they get repetitive and boring. So pass.

More interested in new ips sony is spending money on. That Ready at Dawn game needs gameplay footage.

#25 Posted by Animal-Mother (26228 posts) -

@Animal-Mother said:

@Xaero_Gravity said:

@John_Matherson said:

@Xaero_Gravity said:

@Heil68 said:

I might have to get the deluxe set so I can rock that vest.

Last time I checked it was only in Europe. We only get the damn beanie. :(

Hey, someone keeps telling me to vote for you in a PM...I'm voting for my fcking self!

I have no idea who keeps doing that, sorry about that. D:

You sir have opened a can of worms. You have actually lost my vote because of it.

I guess "Vote for me and I'll vote for you" wasn't as successful as I thought it would be. :(

I wasn't expecting to win anyways. xD

If you dont you should quit GS FOREVER

#26 Posted by Xaero_Gravity (8681 posts) -

@Xaero_Gravity said:

@Animal-Mother said:

@Xaero_Gravity said:

@John_Matherson said:

@Xaero_Gravity said:

@Heil68 said:

I might have to get the deluxe set so I can rock that vest.

Last time I checked it was only in Europe. We only get the damn beanie. :(

Hey, someone keeps telling me to vote for you in a PM...I'm voting for my fcking self!

I have no idea who keeps doing that, sorry about that. D:

You sir have opened a can of worms. You have actually lost my vote because of it.

I guess "Vote for me and I'll vote for you" wasn't as successful as I thought it would be. :(

I wasn't expecting to win anyways. xD

If you dont you should quit GS FOREVER

Deal. :O

#27 Edited by ermacness (7018 posts) -

@mems_1224 said:

not a next gen game. its infamous, you know what you're getting. its gonna be the same as the first two.

Just like: Halo, CoD, Forza, Gears, DR, GT, GTA, and most of the successful franchises out there. MAN ,what an idiotic part of your post.

@TC:

*8th gen started on 11-18-12, with the Wii-U.

#28 Posted by mems_1224 (45799 posts) -

@mems_1224 said:

not a next gen game. its infamous, you know what you're getting. its gonna be the same as the first two.

Just like: Halo, CoD, Forza, Gears, DR, GT, GTA, and most of the successful franchises out there. MAN ,what an idiotic part of your post.

Yea except Infamous isn't very good. The first game showed potential and that was all wasted in the shitty, repetitive 2nd game.

#29 Posted by John_Matherson (2031 posts) -

@ermacness said:

@mems_1224 said:

not a next gen game. its infamous, you know what you're getting. its gonna be the same as the first two.

Just like: Halo, CoD, Forza, Gears, DR, GT, GTA, and most of the successful franchises out there. MAN ,what an idiotic part of your post.

Yea except Infamous isn't very good. The first game showed potential and that was all wasted in the shitty, repetitive 2nd game.

Halo, Cod, Gears, and so forth aren't repetitive? because if I was expect complaints about repetition from anyone, a lemming would be the last person I'd expect it from. The 360 pretty much ran on repetition last gen...

#30 Posted by John_Matherson (2031 posts) -

@masterchiefyolo: And wtf is with people always stealing my profile pictures??? 3rd time it's happened! Knock it off. I created the gif so I could use it, assface.

#31 Edited by PurpleMan5000 (6617 posts) -

@mems_1224 said:

@ermacness said:

@mems_1224 said:

not a next gen game. its infamous, you know what you're getting. its gonna be the same as the first two.

Just like: Halo, CoD, Forza, Gears, DR, GT, GTA, and most of the successful franchises out there. MAN ,what an idiotic part of your post.

Yea except Infamous isn't very good. The first game showed potential and that was all wasted in the shitty, repetitive 2nd game.

Halo, Cod, Gears, and so forth aren't repetitive? because if I was expect complaints about repetition from anyone, a lemming would be the last person I'd expect it from. The 360 pretty much ran on repetition last gen...

They aren't nearly as bad as Infamous. Infamous was worse than Assassin's Creed. AC2 did get much better, so maybe Infamous 2 did, too. I still need to go back and play that one.

#32 Posted by freedomfreak (38268 posts) -

What's coming to Ps4 before this?

#33 Posted by mems_1224 (45799 posts) -

@mems_1224 said:

@ermacness said:

@mems_1224 said:

not a next gen game. its infamous, you know what you're getting. its gonna be the same as the first two.

Just like: Halo, CoD, Forza, Gears, DR, GT, GTA, and most of the successful franchises out there. MAN ,what an idiotic part of your post.

Yea except Infamous isn't very good. The first game showed potential and that was all wasted in the shitty, repetitive 2nd game.

Halo, Cod, Gears, and so forth aren't repetitive? because if I was expect complaints about repetition from anyone, a lemming would be the last person I'd expect it from. The 360 pretty much ran on repetition last gen...

I never said they werent

#34 Edited by mems_1224 (45799 posts) -

@John_Matherson said:

@mems_1224 said:

@ermacness said:

@mems_1224 said:

not a next gen game. its infamous, you know what you're getting. its gonna be the same as the first two.

Just like: Halo, CoD, Forza, Gears, DR, GT, GTA, and most of the successful franchises out there. MAN ,what an idiotic part of your post.

Yea except Infamous isn't very good. The first game showed potential and that was all wasted in the shitty, repetitive 2nd game.

Halo, Cod, Gears, and so forth aren't repetitive? because if I was expect complaints about repetition from anyone, a lemming would be the last person I'd expect it from. The 360 pretty much ran on repetition last gen...

They aren't nearly as bad as Infamous. Infamous was worse than Assassin's Creed. AC2 did get much better, so maybe Infamous 2 did, too. I still need to go back and play that one.

Dont, its a bad game. Boring, repetitive side missions, incredibly underwhelming story and the city isn't as good as Empire City. The first game was so much better than the shitty 2nd one.

#35 Edited by John_Matherson (2031 posts) -

@John_Matherson said:

@mems_1224 said:

@ermacness said:

@mems_1224 said:

not a next gen game. its infamous, you know what you're getting. its gonna be the same as the first two.

Just like: Halo, CoD, Forza, Gears, DR, GT, GTA, and most of the successful franchises out there. MAN ,what an idiotic part of your post.

Yea except Infamous isn't very good. The first game showed potential and that was all wasted in the shitty, repetitive 2nd game.

Halo, Cod, Gears, and so forth aren't repetitive? because if I was expect complaints about repetition from anyone, a lemming would be the last person I'd expect it from. The 360 pretty much ran on repetition last gen...

They aren't nearly as bad as Infamous. Infamous was worse than Assassin's Creed. AC2 did get much better, so maybe Infamous 2 did, too. I still need to go back and play that one.

Really? Because online play isn't repetitive? Wait...what? I'm confused.

#36 Edited by mems_1224 (45799 posts) -

@PurpleMan5000 said:

@John_Matherson said:

@mems_1224 said:

@ermacness said:

@mems_1224 said:

not a next gen game. its infamous, you know what you're getting. its gonna be the same as the first two.

Just like: Halo, CoD, Forza, Gears, DR, GT, GTA, and most of the successful franchises out there. MAN ,what an idiotic part of your post.

Yea except Infamous isn't very good. The first game showed potential and that was all wasted in the shitty, repetitive 2nd game.

Halo, Cod, Gears, and so forth aren't repetitive? because if I was expect complaints about repetition from anyone, a lemming would be the last person I'd expect it from. The 360 pretty much ran on repetition last gen...

They aren't nearly as bad as Infamous. Infamous was worse than Assassin's Creed. AC2 did get much better, so maybe Infamous 2 did, too. I still need to go back and play that one.

Really? Because online play isn't repetitive? Wait...what? I'm confused.

What does online play have to do with the awful missions and story of Infamous 2?

#37 Posted by John_Matherson (2031 posts) -

What's coming to Ps4 before this?

Nothing important besides TR reboot in January and some other here and theres

#38 Posted by PurpleMan5000 (6617 posts) -

@PurpleMan5000 said:

@John_Matherson said:

@mems_1224 said:

@ermacness said:

@mems_1224 said:

not a next gen game. its infamous, you know what you're getting. its gonna be the same as the first two.

Just like: Halo, CoD, Forza, Gears, DR, GT, GTA, and most of the successful franchises out there. MAN ,what an idiotic part of your post.

Yea except Infamous isn't very good. The first game showed potential and that was all wasted in the shitty, repetitive 2nd game.

Halo, Cod, Gears, and so forth aren't repetitive? because if I was expect complaints about repetition from anyone, a lemming would be the last person I'd expect it from. The 360 pretty much ran on repetition last gen...

They aren't nearly as bad as Infamous. Infamous was worse than Assassin's Creed. AC2 did get much better, so maybe Infamous 2 did, too. I still need to go back and play that one.

Really? Because online play isn't repetitive? Wait...what? I'm confused.

I just play the single player of those games and then mess around with the multiplayer for a few hours before shelving the game for good. The online portion of most FPS out there is basically forgettable and boring, imo. I only buy FPS games with a solid single player campaign.

#39 Edited by freedomfreak (38268 posts) -

Nothing important besides TR reboot in January and some other here and theres

I just checked. Nothing noteworthy. Thief perhaps, but that's not saying much.

Guess I'll have to hold out with Don't Starve until SS arrives.

#40 Posted by John_Matherson (2031 posts) -

@John_Matherson said:

@PurpleMan5000 said:

@John_Matherson said:

@mems_1224 said:

@ermacness said:

@mems_1224 said:

not a next gen game. its infamous, you know what you're getting. its gonna be the same as the first two.

Just like: Halo, CoD, Forza, Gears, DR, GT, GTA, and most of the successful franchises out there. MAN ,what an idiotic part of your post.

Yea except Infamous isn't very good. The first game showed potential and that was all wasted in the shitty, repetitive 2nd game.

Halo, Cod, Gears, and so forth aren't repetitive? because if I was expect complaints about repetition from anyone, a lemming would be the last person I'd expect it from. The 360 pretty much ran on repetition last gen...

They aren't nearly as bad as Infamous. Infamous was worse than Assassin's Creed. AC2 did get much better, so maybe Infamous 2 did, too. I still need to go back and play that one.

Really? Because online play isn't repetitive? Wait...what? I'm confused.

What does online play have to do with the awful missions and story of Infamous 2?

CoD, Halo, gears and oh wait...

better question is why he brought up Ass. Creed to begin with

#41 Posted by mems_1224 (45799 posts) -

@mems_1224 said:

@John_Matherson said:

@PurpleMan5000 said:

@John_Matherson said:

@mems_1224 said:

@ermacness said:

@mems_1224 said:

not a next gen game. its infamous, you know what you're getting. its gonna be the same as the first two.

Just like: Halo, CoD, Forza, Gears, DR, GT, GTA, and most of the successful franchises out there. MAN ,what an idiotic part of your post.

Yea except Infamous isn't very good. The first game showed potential and that was all wasted in the shitty, repetitive 2nd game.

Halo, Cod, Gears, and so forth aren't repetitive? because if I was expect complaints about repetition from anyone, a lemming would be the last person I'd expect it from. The 360 pretty much ran on repetition last gen...

They aren't nearly as bad as Infamous. Infamous was worse than Assassin's Creed. AC2 did get much better, so maybe Infamous 2 did, too. I still need to go back and play that one.

Really? Because online play isn't repetitive? Wait...what? I'm confused.

What does online play have to do with the awful missions and story of Infamous 2?

CoD, Halo, gears and oh wait...

better question is why he brought up Ass. Creed to begin with

Because AC2 took a mediocre Assassins Creed and made it way better. Infamous 2 took a step back from Infamous 1.

#42 Posted by PurpleMan5000 (6617 posts) -

@mems_1224 said:

@John_Matherson said:

@PurpleMan5000 said:

@John_Matherson said:

@mems_1224 said:

@ermacness said:

@mems_1224 said:

not a next gen game. its infamous, you know what you're getting. its gonna be the same as the first two.

Just like: Halo, CoD, Forza, Gears, DR, GT, GTA, and most of the successful franchises out there. MAN ,what an idiotic part of your post.

Yea except Infamous isn't very good. The first game showed potential and that was all wasted in the shitty, repetitive 2nd game.

Halo, Cod, Gears, and so forth aren't repetitive? because if I was expect complaints about repetition from anyone, a lemming would be the last person I'd expect it from. The 360 pretty much ran on repetition last gen...

They aren't nearly as bad as Infamous. Infamous was worse than Assassin's Creed. AC2 did get much better, so maybe Infamous 2 did, too. I still need to go back and play that one.

Really? Because online play isn't repetitive? Wait...what? I'm confused.

What does online play have to do with the awful missions and story of Infamous 2?

CoD, Halo, gears and oh wait...

better question is why he brought up Ass. Creed to begin with

I bought Assassin's Creed because I like new IPs, the game looked amazing, and it was getting rave reviews everywhere. So, basically for the same reasons I bought Infamous. The game was awful, though. I only bought AC2 because it was $5 on Steam and a lot of people told me that it fixed a whole lot of the issues with AC. I actually owned the game nearly a year before I bothered to install and play it, lol, but it was pretty good.

#43 Posted by trugs26 (5122 posts) -

Nex-gen started with Steel Diver on the 3DS lol. Deal with it.

#44 Edited by StormyJoe (4596 posts) -

@John_Matherson:

Wanna bet that

  • TitanFall trounces Second Son is score
  • TitanFall is more of an XB1 system seller than Second Son is for PS4

#45 Posted by StrongDeadlift (5131 posts) -

You even suck at being a stupid troll.

You clearly have the experience in this field, WastedWisdom.

#46 Posted by Vatusus (4229 posts) -

not a next gen game. its infamous, you know what you're getting. its gonna be the same as the first two.

Like Halo?

#47 Edited by mems_1224 (45799 posts) -

@Vatusus said:

@mems_1224 said:

not a next gen game. its infamous, you know what you're getting. its gonna be the same as the first two.

Like Halo?

we havent seen anything from the next halo so i dont see how that makes sense. killzone would have been a better comparison

#48 Edited by ThatOneDork (33 posts) -

Not sure if I like the character. He looks like a brodude. And I can't stand brodudes.


At least he's not grizzled war vet caucasian with a buzz cut #34. I like the look of the character and this game really does have the potential of being pretty cool. I'm hyped.

#49 Edited by ShoTTyMcNaDeS (1877 posts) -

@StormyJoe said:

@John_Matherson:

Wanna bet that

  • TitanFall trounces Second Son is score
  • TitanFall is more of an XB1 system seller than Second Son is for PS4

Ill bet you!! Loser leaves GS forever!!!

1. Titanfall is destined for a 6 or 7. Graphics wont be up to par with Ghosts...(PS4), BF4...(PC,PS4) or KZSF graphically. Its running on the ancient Source engine which = automatic fail! Gameplay is CoD with Mech Killstreak rewards plus jet packs and wall running...Oooohhhhh! You do realize that this isn't going to be like a BF4 game where there are mechs littering the battle space riiight? They are called in, you have them for a time and they will be gone. TF isn't about you can be on foot or in a mech?

2. Not at all a system seller for Xbone as it will be on PC and 360. There will still be a major part of MS's gaming population that will not have switched over to Xbone yet and a $60 MP only game launching in March isn't going to do it either.

Meanwhile, Infamous Second Son will push the visuals bar even higher for what the PS4 is capable of. Unlike the massively overcrowded FPS genre, ISS will have the action/adventure genre all to them selves bewtween the PS4 and Xbone. Unlike Titanfall, ISS will help move PS4's as PS owners look to play more than FPS and racers!!! ISS gets an 8 minimum here at GS!!

Well, we will miss you when you lose our bet!!! Take your alts with you as well!!

#50 Posted by MonsieurX (28743 posts) -

@StormyJoe said:

@John_Matherson:

Wanna bet that

  • TitanFall trounces Second Son is score
  • TitanFall is more of an XB1 system seller than Second Son is for PS4

Ill bet you!! Loser leaves GS forever!!!

1. Titanfall is destined for a 6 or 7. Graphics wont be up to par with Ghosts...(PS4), BF4...(PC,PS4) or KZSF graphically. Its running on the ancient Source engine which = automatic fail! Gameplay is CoD with Mech Killstreak rewards plus jet packs and wall running...Oooohhhhh! You do realize that this isn't going to be like a BF4 game where there are mechs littering the battle space riiight? They are called in, you have them for a time and they will be gone. TF isn't about you can be on foot or in a mech?

2. Not at all a system seller for Xbone as it will be on PC and 360. There will still be a major part of MS's gaming population that will not have switched over to Xbone yet and a $60 MP only game launching in March isn't going to do it either.

Meanwhile, Infamous Second Son will push the visuals bar even higher for what the PS4 is capable of. Unlike the massively overcrowded FPS genre, ISS will have the action/adventure genre all to them selves bewtween the PS4 and Xbone. Unlike Titanfall, ISS will help move PS4's as PS owners look to play more than FPS and racers!!! ISS gets an 8 minimum here at GS!!

Well, we will miss you when you lose our bet!!! Take your alts with you as well!!

Good luck considering it went down from a 9 to a 7.5