Like It or Not Wii-U is On Top

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#101 Edited by Slimmin360 (1485 posts) -

@comptonst88 said:

compariing the amount of games a console that has almost 2 full years on the market to the new PS and Xbox that have been here for almost 6 full months, yep makes sense. Also, the Wii U is only good for exclusives while PS4 and XBONE are good for both exclusives and multiplats.

Really and exactly how many exclusives might they have on this latest gen 2 or 3 franchises, what would make anyone choose X-1 over PS4 or vice versa, their both interchangeable as far as i'm concerned, not enough exclusives on either one to differentiate one from the other.

Nintendo has never had that problem, they've always had the most exclusives, and enough third party to keep gamers happy.

#102 Edited by PurpleMan5000 (7321 posts) -

@Sweenix said:

Wii U has been out for a year longer. If you align launches, the PS4/Bone have much better titles

Try harder

Are you combining the PS4/Bone or something?

#103 Edited by Slimmin360 (1485 posts) -

@augustevans said:

Why are ppeople fine with nintendo announcing the ummteenth version of games we've been playing forever?

Oh because there aren't a dozen Call of Duties, or Halo's, God of Wars, Gears of War's, Uncharted's, Forza's, Gran Tursimo's, GTA's................Please, all Nintendo is guilty of is being the first to milk succesful franchises, but they are by no means the last, if it sells extremely well then that franchise will continue on for years and years to come.

I have no doubt that we'll see another 20 sequels to some of the above listed titles over the next 2 decades, Nintendo just did it first.

#104 Edited by Slimmin360 (1485 posts) -

@comptonst88 said:

compariing the amount of games a console that has almost 2 full years on the market to the new PS and Xbox that have been here for almost 6 full months, yep makes sense. Also, the Wii U is only good for exclusives while PS4 and XBONE are good for both exclusives and multiplats.

Thats all i ever said was " RIGHT NOW " the Wii-U is the one on top because it has the most games to play at this time, of course a year from now the playing field will be more evened out, but as of now the Wii-U is the system to have as far as a fun variety of great games.....but fanboys started going crazy, as usual, i own a PS4 but it doesn't get touched because there isn't much out there until the end of 2014 beginning of 2015.

However if E3 shows that Nintendo will soon be releasing such new Wii-U games like Zelda, Metroid and Smash Bros, then i believe they will get a massive jump in hardware sales between now and december, because as i said, i just went to get the MarioKart 8 Bundle mere days after it's release and there are none in any stores within a 100 mile radius, so i ordered it......You don't have to be a genius to realize that once again a popular Nintendo 1st party title as given them a massive boost in hardware sales.

#105 Edited by Aljosa23 (25119 posts) -

I like my Wii U a lot but let's be real, "on top" is a relative term; Wii U isn't exactly setting the world on fire. The other two are just slow out the gate.

#106 Posted by I_can_haz (6551 posts) -

How long has the WiiU been out OP? Yea

#107 Posted by Puckhog04 (22606 posts) -

It had an extra year head start...it should have a few more exclusives. That being said, I own all three and still only play Mario Kart on the Wii U. I did enjoy ZombiU but beyond that, there hasn't been too much that is so noteworthy to stand above the Xbox One/PS4 exclusives. I still think Dead Rising 3 is one of the top exclusives so far. Mario Kart 8 is fantastic though.

#108 Posted by sHaDyCuBe321 (4145 posts) -

@augustevans said:

Why are ppeople fine with nintendo announcing the ummteenth version of games we've been playing forever?

Because Sony and MS don't do the same thing right? How many Gears games have there been since 2007? How many God of War games have there been? Killzone? Halo? GT? We're on our 4th Uncharted game? CoD and Assassin's Creed are on yearly cycles. But it's ok for those series right?

The difference between Nintendo and other companies is that often times their sequels introduce new concepts that can radically change the way the game is played. Mario Galaxy and Sunshine are vastly different in structure and in concept. Skyward Sword changed the way you control the gameplay in Zelda. Changes that according to most critics were impressive and revolutionary. (MC Galaxy 1 & 2: 97, MC SS: 93)

@ristactionjakso said:

Ya if you like a million Mario games that are all the same and Mario Kart. Zedla is the real reason to get Wii-U but obviously its not out and nobody knows when it will release.

Ps4 and Xbone arent all that old and they already have better games. And ps3/360 have better versions of multiplat games.

Name them...I'll wait.

@comptonst88 said:

@Toxic-Seahorse said:

@comptonst88 said:

That's kinda my point, the only reason the WiiU has the most exclusives right now is because it has been on the market long enough for a fair amount to release. Given enough time on the market, the PS4 and XBONE will get their exclusives and then there will be no point in even bringing up the Wii U. Whats funny about all of this is that I will even admit that I love Zelda and Smash Bro, and maybe the occasional Mario Kart but its just not enough to pick up a Wii U any time in the near future.

What are these exclusives you speak of? You mean the ones that won't see the light of day for another year?

Name 5 exclusives that will be out on PS4 and Xbox One in 2014

I'll do the same for Wii U - Tropical Freeze, Mario Kart 8, Bayonetta 2, Hyrule Warriors, Smash Bros Wii U, X

I named that are confirmed for this year.

I own all 3 of the systems and am an ardent Sony and Microsoft supporter when I feel the need to be, but Microsoft and Sony fanboys continually like to rag on the the Wii U for its sales, hardware power and games. 2 of those I'll accept. And I'll also accept the fact that it'd be foolhardy to pick the Wii U as your primary console due to lack of 3rd party. But I don't play sales and gameplay outweighs graphics by a ton. If you look at what system has the best games to play RIGHT NOW it's clearly the Wii U. How anyone can contest that is beyond me.

As for the "head start" the Wii U had the following games within a year of its release: Mario 3D Worls, Wind Waker HD, Pikmin 3, Lego City Undercover, NSMBU, Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate, Wonderful 101 and Zombi U >> PS4 and Xbox One Lineup by November unless E3 radically changes things.

#109 Posted by Slimmin360 (1485 posts) -

@sHaDyCuBe321:

Thank you,,,,Exactly what i'm saying.

#110 Edited by sam890 (1108 posts) -

Aww man these Sheep got some balls. What exclusives are you Sheep talking about, Mario, Smash, Zelda & ?

#111 Posted by KungfuKitten (21130 posts) -

@freedomfreak said:

So, X1 and Ps4 have the multiplats. WiiU has the exclusives.

PC has the multiplats...

#112 Posted by mattykovax (22693 posts) -

I know personal stories do not count as evidence in a logical argument, but my Wii U cannot even get more play time than my PS3, how is it supposed to be on top of the next gen? Seriously I do not see it. Just personal opinion is all.

#113 Edited by Slimmin360 (1485 posts) -

@KungfuKitten said:

@freedomfreak said:

So, X1 and Ps4 have the multiplats. WiiU has the exclusives.

PC has the multiplats...

Lets not drag PC gaming into this, i have no use for it, i'm a console gamer ONLY, i can't stand PC gaming....thats only my opinion, but this is a console discussion.

#114 Posted by jsmoke03 (12923 posts) -

@Slimmin360 said:

Before fanboys start listing hardware sales quotes, i'm not talking about that......i'm talking.....

GAMES....X1 and PS4 are seriously lacking, the Wii U just hit a huge sales boost with the release of the Wii U Mario Kart bundle, i had to order mine to ship, because all local stores in a 100 mile radius were sold out.

As always every time Nintendo releases a first party title their hardware gets a major sales boost, and as far as i'm concerned, all they have to do at E3 is show game play footage or trailers of a new Zelda, Metroid or Smash Bros and hardware sales will go through the roof again.

What exactly does PS4 and X1 have as major exclusive hits right now? Infamous S.S. and Titanfall ?

Is anyone even still talking about or playing those games.

You guy's have to face it, just as i did, i bought a PS4 too, but there are currently no phenomenal exclusives to play, we're all playing the waiting game until at least October, Nov or 2015, and Nintendo knows this so i'm sure they'll have even more major game announcments at E3.

Sorry X1 and PS4 boys but between their latest software update and exclusives Nintendo has the most to game on right now, which puts them in the lead in my book.

is anyone still talking about pikmin 3 or wonderful 101? nope

super mario bro u? nope

mario kart is great and im happy for ninty but its just like the wii...great first party, really bad third party. its not gonna go anywhere this gen.

#115 Posted by asexualrobot (21 posts) -

@mattykovax:

Cause the PS3 has 7+ years worth of games? Conversely you could cite PS4 and XBone and their dearth of games to justify them being lousy consoles. It's not logical, and their game lineup will most likely change in the future.

It's really an argument to NOT pick up new, expensive systems at the beginning of the cycle.

#116 Posted by Slimmin360 (1485 posts) -

@jsmoke03 said:

@Slimmin360 said:

Before fanboys start listing hardware sales quotes, i'm not talking about that......i'm talking.....

GAMES....X1 and PS4 are seriously lacking, the Wii U just hit a huge sales boost with the release of the Wii U Mario Kart bundle, i had to order mine to ship, because all local stores in a 100 mile radius were sold out.

As always every time Nintendo releases a first party title their hardware gets a major sales boost, and as far as i'm concerned, all they have to do at E3 is show game play footage or trailers of a new Zelda, Metroid or Smash Bros and hardware sales will go through the roof again.

What exactly does PS4 and X1 have as major exclusive hits right now? Infamous S.S. and Titanfall ?

Is anyone even still talking about or playing those games.

You guy's have to face it, just as i did, i bought a PS4 too, but there are currently no phenomenal exclusives to play, we're all playing the waiting game until at least October, Nov or 2015, and Nintendo knows this so i'm sure they'll have even more major game announcments at E3.

Sorry X1 and PS4 boys but between their latest software update and exclusives Nintendo has the most to game on right now, which puts them in the lead in my book.

is anyone still talking about pikmin 3 or wonderful 101? nope

super mario bro u? nope

mario kart is great and im happy for ninty but its just like the wii...great first party, really bad third party. its not gonna go anywhere this gen.

Pikmin 3 and Wonderful 101 have been out for over a year, thats why no ones really talking about them any more....Infamous S.S. and Titanfall have only been out a couple months and people stopped talking about them after the first two weeks.

#117 Posted by freedomfreak (40902 posts) -
@KungfuKitten said:

PC has the multiplats...

Also.

#118 Posted by Slimmin360 (1485 posts) -

@mattykovax said:

I know personal stories do not count as evidence in a logical argument, but my Wii U cannot even get more play time than my PS3, how is it supposed to be on top of the next gen? Seriously I do not see it. Just personal opinion is all.

Your Wii-U doesn't get more play time than your PS3 because theres like 500 games for PS3 to the Wii-U's 30 games, So why would your Wii-U get more play?

#119 Posted by High-Res (273 posts) -

I like the the Wiiu, It's cute. I got one for my 6 year old. I really like the fact that it has those games where the family plays together. Not online, not on system link, but in the same room! I think that is really important to gaming. It's what we all grew up with. Gaming in general needs more of that. We really enjoyed the Mario chase and the one where someone is a Ghost.

I also recently purchase Mario Kart.

But when it comes to REAL games, like a game I'm going to play with grown ups online, Chances are it's going to be a 3rd Party Game, Like EA or Take 2. I sure the hell aint going to play any First Party Nintendo product by myself. Seeing that Nintendo has 0% 3rd Party support, as far as my gaming preference and what I'm looking to get out of my time? Wiiu Is completely irrelevant. For me personally, Nintendo has been completely irrelevant since the N64. That was the last serious game machine they had and it was the 3rd Party games like Rares Golden Eye and Acclaims Wrestling that made that a gaming machine.

#120 Posted by hotdiddykong (2048 posts) -

I agree, but its a shame the Gamespot staff are being ignorant bums ignoring the Wii U's library and are just boo hooing the sales, yet they are raving the PS4 and Xbone when their current library is %95 last gen ports and arent getting real games until next year.

#121 Posted by Ghost120x (3909 posts) -

I love Nintendo and my wii u but ps4 is my primary console this time around. For me Sony supports their console far longer than any of the other competing companies. Nintendo always starts strong but then they go out like a light. Since ps4/x1 are facing so many delays nintendo will definitely win this year, but 2015 or 2016? Not a chance.

#122 Posted by good_sk8er7 (4322 posts) -

@clyde46 said:

Games? Are you telling me that you sheep are ready for more Mario?

Always ready for Mario

#123 Edited by hotdiddykong (2048 posts) -

@good_sk8er7 said:

@clyde46 said:

Games? Are you telling me that you sheep are ready for more Mario?

Always ready for Mario

That reminds me

Look around, there is literally no Mario in sight in the future, Smash Bros isnt specifically about Mario and doesnt have his name in the title.

It feels off not having one to look forward to, i expect atleast 1 Mario announcement at E3, maybe a Sports game, maybe the full Mario vs DK game shown back at a Tech demo at GDC for Nintendo's Browser game creator, or maybe, just maybe, not hinging too much but a very low chance, a new full Platforming or RPG Mario.

#124 Edited by thehig1 (2231 posts) -

@Slimmin360: you hate pc gaming, why hate is such a strong word.

What is there to hate about it.

#125 Posted by KungfuKitten (21130 posts) -

@freedomfreak said:
@KungfuKitten said:

PC has the multiplats...

Also.

Also PC.

#126 Posted by locopatho (20373 posts) -

@sam890 said:

Aww man these Sheep got some balls. What exclusives are you Sheep talking about, Mario, Smash, Zelda & ?

The same ones as N64, GC and Wii. And X. I can't wait for that one :D

#127 Posted by hiphops_savior (7941 posts) -

Go ahead and envy me, I'm fun's MVP, I ain't going nowhere, so pick your kart and race me.

#128 Edited by Speak_Low (1097 posts) -

The difference between a slow period for the Wii U and a slow period for X1/PS4 is, we know there are tons of games coming out on the other side of this long wait for the latter two consoles. The reward - the boon - is coming.

For Wii U miserable droughty 2013, all year long it was Sheep worrying and port begging "will XX or YY come out for Wii U? They even announced a PS360 version, but will there be a Wii U version? What about Destiny? Mortal Kombat? Far Cry 4? Metal Gear Solid 5? Kingdom Hearts 3?? Anyone? HALP!"

Sony and MS owners probably have healthier blood pressure without being gripped by this anxiety and industry neglect. Guaranteed developer support for the next 4-5 years will do that. Future Bioshock, GTA, Batman, Red Dead, Star Wars Battlefront, Battlefield - you name it, they will get it. As a gamer that's a good feeling to have. The console you bought will have plenty of use in the next few years thanks to this flourishing support.

Sheep are watching all of this lively activity not happening on their side. Q_Q

#129 Edited by clone01 (24832 posts) -

@lostrib said:

If I remember correctly, you hyped the OUYA so I can't take anything you say seriously

You can't ever take anything this idiot says seriously.

#130 Posted by LegatoSkyheart (25549 posts) -

I gotta say that Quick Start thing WiiU has is pretty slick.

#131 Edited by svaubel (2491 posts) -
@ironcreed said:

Indeed, the games are why I picked one up before either the Xbox One or PS4. Then of course there is the fact that it's cheaper, has no bullshit subscriptions for online and has backwards compatibility for all of the great Wii games I missed. It's rare when something exceeds my expectations, but I can say without question that the Wii U with it's funny little name has done just that.

Thank you. This right here expresses all my reasons why I love the system despite what people say about it. Cheaper, no stupid fee to play online, BC, and the games I want to play.

At least Nintendo isnt trying to shove DRM down your throat like Microsoft. Wii U's only problem is overall lack of games, but that is being rectified slowly.

Sure it has yet 'more Mario', but if people are playing that card look at the PS4 and Xbone libraries. How many games on them are not sequels/prequels? All the big systems have hardly any new IP.

#132 Edited by donalbane (16362 posts) -

What if you don't like their exclusives, though? I personally don't want to recreate the experiences I had with the outmoded games of my childhood,

#133 Posted by sHaDyCuBe321 (4145 posts) -

@donalbane said:

What if you don't like their exclusives, though? I personally don't want to recreate the experiences I had with the outmoded games of my childhood,

I mean really. I don't want to continue reliving the same videogame experiences over and over again. That's why I'll get an Xbox One or a PS4 because every exclusive game on those systems is a fresh experiences that isn't just a carbon copy of a previous IP with a fresh coat of paint.

/sarcasm

#134 Posted by donalbane (16362 posts) -

@sHaDyCuBe321 said:

@donalbane said:

What if you don't like their exclusives, though? I personally don't want to recreate the experiences I had with the outmoded games of my childhood,

I mean really. I don't want to continue reliving the same videogame experiences over and over again. That's why I'll get an Xbox One or a PS4 because every exclusive game on those systems is a fresh experiences that isn't just a carbon copy of a previous IP with a fresh coat of paint.

/sarcasm

I take your point, but there are people that feel that the venerable Nintendo franchises are still compelling, and there are those who don't. I don't. Not trying to ruin anybody's enjoyment of Nintendo games... I just don't like platformers, cart racers and the like. Don't think less of people who do, but I don't want to play games that, as I said, have been outmoded and supplanted by newer, frankly more personally compelling trends in game design. I have a Wii U and I've never played a console less in my life.

#135 Posted by Slimmin360 (1485 posts) -

@thehig1 said:

@Slimmin360: you hate pc gaming, why hate is such a strong word.

What is there to hate about it.

I don't want to get into a debate about this, first of all i'm a MAC guy anyway, i prefer MAC's to PC's, but even if i had a high end PC i wouldn't game on it.

I don't like the mouse/keyboard control scheme, i don't want to take the time to configure or set up a 360 or 3rd party controller, i don't want to worry about system requirments or constant updates, and i don't want to sit in front of a monitor at a computer desk for any length of time, and no i don't want to spend extra money to setup and stream the PC game to my TV.

I want to walk up to my console hit the power button, drop the game in, grab the controller, drop in my recliner in front of my 50 inch plasma and play, all within 20 seconds.

#136 Posted by sHaDyCuBe321 (4145 posts) -

@donalbane said:

@sHaDyCuBe321 said:

@donalbane said:

What if you don't like their exclusives, though? I personally don't want to recreate the experiences I had with the outmoded games of my childhood,

I mean really. I don't want to continue reliving the same videogame experiences over and over again. That's why I'll get an Xbox One or a PS4 because every exclusive game on those systems is a fresh experiences that isn't just a carbon copy of a previous IP with a fresh coat of paint.

/sarcasm

I take your point, but there are people that feel that the venerable Nintendo franchises are still compelling, and there are those who don't. I don't. Not trying to ruin anybody's enjoyment of Nintendo games... I just don't like platformers, cart racers and the like. Don't think less of people who do, but I don't want to play games that, as I said, have been outmoded and supplanted by newer, frankly more personally compelling trends in game design. I have a Wii U and I've never played a console less in my life.

I understand what you're saying. For me it's just tough to find something like a FPS or a Third-Person adventure game compelling right now since the market is so saturated with those games now. It's interesting that I think Nintendo games are the most refreshing when it comes to game design now because they're developing games in genres that people don't anymore (platformers) and consistently pushing the envelope with new controls and other things they implement in their games.

#137 Edited by Slimmin360 (1485 posts) -

@sHaDyCuBe321 said:

@donalbane said:

What if you don't like their exclusives, though? I personally don't want to recreate the experiences I had with the outmoded games of my childhood,

I mean really. I don't want to continue reliving the same videogame experiences over and over again. That's why I'll get an Xbox One or a PS4 because every exclusive game on those systems is a fresh experiences that isn't just a carbon copy of a previous IP with a fresh coat of paint.

/sarcasm

Really? What about all the Call of Duties, Uncharted's, Halo's, God of War's, Gears of War, Ratchet & Clanks, Resident Evil's, Forza's, Gran Turismo's, GTA's, Madden's, MLB The Show........all continuing yearly franchises with a " fresh coat of paint ", to look prettier each year.

As i said earlier in this thread everyone milks a succesful franchise, Nintendo just did it first and therefore they've been doing it the longest, again as i said earlier in this thread, the above titles will have like 10 sequels each in 10 to 20 years as well, no developer dumps a succesful selling franchise if it continues to make money year after year.

#138 Posted by pyro1245 (855 posts) -

eh if you say so. I guess I'd buy one before a ps4 or xbone. However I find them all pretty lacking when compared to gaming on PC.

#139 Posted by sHaDyCuBe321 (4145 posts) -

@Slimmin360 said:

@sHaDyCuBe321 said:

@donalbane said:

What if you don't like their exclusives, though? I personally don't want to recreate the experiences I had with the outmoded games of my childhood,

I mean really. I don't want to continue reliving the same videogame experiences over and over again. That's why I'll get an Xbox One or a PS4 because every exclusive game on those systems is a fresh experiences that isn't just a carbon copy of a previous IP with a fresh coat of paint.

/sarcasm

Really? What about all the Call of Duties, Uncharted's, Halo's, God of War's, Gears of War, Ratchet & Clanks, Resident Evil's, Forza's, Gran Turismo's, GTA's, Madden's, MLB The Show........all continuing yearly franchises with a " fresh coat of paint ", to look prettier each year.

As i said earlier in this thread everyone milks a succesful franchise, Nintendo just did it first and therefore they've been doing it the longest, again as i said earlier in this thread, the above titles will have like 10 sequels each in 10 to 20 years as well, no developer dumps a succesful selling franchise if it continues to make money year after year.

"/sarcasm" means I agree with you haha.

#141 Posted by ironcreed (14083 posts) -

@donalbane said:

@sHaDyCuBe321 said:

@donalbane said:

What if you don't like their exclusives, though? I personally don't want to recreate the experiences I had with the outmoded games of my childhood,

I mean really. I don't want to continue reliving the same videogame experiences over and over again. That's why I'll get an Xbox One or a PS4 because every exclusive game on those systems is a fresh experiences that isn't just a carbon copy of a previous IP with a fresh coat of paint.

/sarcasm

I take your point, but there are people that feel that the venerable Nintendo franchises are still compelling, and there are those who don't. I don't. Not trying to ruin anybody's enjoyment of Nintendo games... I just don't like platformers, cart racers and the like. Don't think less of people who do, but I don't want to play games that, as I said, have been outmoded and supplanted by newer, frankly more personally compelling trends in game design. I have a Wii U and I've never played a console less in my life.

Fair play. I suppose what makes me appreciate the system is due to the fact that I drifted away from Nintendo after the N64 and only had a Gamecube and Wii for very short stints before getting rid of them. Like you, I was just burnt out on Mario, Zelda and the like and got swept away by Sony and then Microsoft. But now that I have been through hordes of brown shooters and have climbed over grey mountains of dragon slaying epics, I felt a sudden urge to come back home.

Don't get me wrong, though. I am not abandoning games like that or the new systems. I simply realized that I needed something different. Something that felt pure and arcadey, like the good old days. So I went with my gut and it truly feels like I have been given a cure of sorts. Like I found something that was missing and just realized what it was. Even with a game like Nintendo Land, I felt like a kid in an arcade for the first time in forever. That is all the convincing I needed.

Then of course I have also been going back and playing games like Mario Galaxy and am floored with what I have been missing. It has proved to me beyond a shadow of a doubt that this is not the same old stale Mario that I grew weary of all those years ago. The level design is some of the best I have ever seen and the gameplay is like a varied and finely tuned machine that keeps throwing new scenarios at you. What, am I really supposed to be impressed with shit like Knack after playing something like this?

I don't know. I guess after being away for so long, a lot of it is indeed attributed to a case of 'what is old becomes new again.' All I know is that If pure fun that has never lost it's classic sensibilities and masterful game design is supposed to feel old and played out, then I shudder at the thought of hearing how fresh and innovative games like Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare and Assassin's Creed: Unity are in reviews. Oh, how far we have fallen down the rabbit hole.

But it's not just yearly shitware games like that. Add in the ever increasing push towards microtransactions, games as a service, free to play casino structures, online subscriptions, 50 GB games and a lack of respect for the previous generation due to zero backwards compatibility. Pile all of this up and it's easy to see how it all contributed to pushing me back to Nintendo until I finally reached a breaking point and it just sort of happened. I had to have something that felt more like a good old friendly gaming console to balance the scales and the Wii U delivers that in spades. All in what you are looking for, I guess.

#142 Edited by sHaDyCuBe321 (4145 posts) -

@ironcreed said:

@donalbane said:

@sHaDyCuBe321 said:

@donalbane said:

What if you don't like their exclusives, though? I personally don't want to recreate the experiences I had with the outmoded games of my childhood,

I mean really. I don't want to continue reliving the same videogame experiences over and over again. That's why I'll get an Xbox One or a PS4 because every exclusive game on those systems is a fresh experiences that isn't just a carbon copy of a previous IP with a fresh coat of paint.

/sarcasm

I take your point, but there are people that feel that the venerable Nintendo franchises are still compelling, and there are those who don't. I don't. Not trying to ruin anybody's enjoyment of Nintendo games... I just don't like platformers, cart racers and the like. Don't think less of people who do, but I don't want to play games that, as I said, have been outmoded and supplanted by newer, frankly more personally compelling trends in game design. I have a Wii U and I've never played a console less in my life.

Fair play. I suppose what makes me appreciate the system is due to the fact that I drifted away from Nintendo after the N64 and only had a Gamecube and Wii for very short stints before getting rid of them. Like you, I was just burnt out on Mario, Zelda and the like and got swept away by Sony and then Microsoft. But now that I have been through hordes of brown shooters and have climbed over grey mountains of dragon slaying epics, I felt a sudden urge to come back home.

Don't get me wrong, though. I am not abandoning games like that or the new systems. I simply realized that I needed something different. Something that felt pure and arcadey, like the good old days. So I went with my gut and it truly feels like I have been given a cure of sorts. Like I found something that was missing and just realized what it was. Even with a game like Nintendo Land, I felt like a kid in an arcade for the first time in forever. That is all the convincing I needed.

Then of course I have also been going back and playing games like Mario Galaxy and am floored with what I have been missing. It has proved to me beyond a shadow of a doubt that this is not the same old stale Mario that I grew weary of all those years ago. The level design is some of the best I have ever seen and the gameplay is like a varied and finely tuned machine that keeps throwing new scenarios at you. What, am I really supposed to be impressed with shit like Knack after playing something like this?

I don't know. I guess after being away for so long, a lot of it is indeed attributed to a case of 'what is old becomes new again.' All I know is that If pure fun that has never lost it's classic sensibilities and masterful game design is supposed to feel old and played out, then I shudder at the thought of hearing how fresh and innovative games like Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare and Assassin's Creed: Unity are in reviews. Oh, how far we have fallen down the rabbit hole.

But it's not just yearly shitware games like that. Add in the ever increasing push towards microtransactions, games as a service, free to play casino structures, online subscriptions, 50 GB games and a lack of respect for the previous generation due to zero backwards compatibility. Pile all of this up and it's easy to see how it all contributed to pushing me back to Nintendo until I finally reached a breaking point and it just sort of happened. I had to have something that felt more like a good old friendly gaming console to balance the scales and the Wii U delivers that in spades. All in what you are looking for, I guess.

#143 Edited by donalbane (16362 posts) -

@ironcreed:

I get what you are saying about, "coming home". I started on Atari, but I really cut my teeth on the Commodore 128 and later the IBM. So for me, home is a PC. I took a long break from PC gaming when the 360, Wii and PS3 came out, and a few years ago I got a new gaming PC and I've really enjoyed revisiting my roots. Games like Day Z are so different than what I can get on consoles, it makes me wonder why I ever took a break. So I get what you're saying, and agree with the sentiment, but have different experiences and therefore different preferences. But I do like to have everything whenever possible, so I can try any exclusive regardless of platform. But lately, I have been playing on PC for the most part, and it's been marvelous. I haven't bought any games for my Wii U since I picked it up almost a year and a half ago. I did get a drawing App that was pretty cool, though, and I did play some WIi games I had laying around, so that was cool.

#144 Edited by Slimmin360 (1485 posts) -

@svaubel said:
@ironcreed said:

Indeed, the games are why I picked one up before either the Xbox One or PS4. Then of course there is the fact that it's cheaper, has no bullshit subscriptions for online and has backwards compatibility for all of the great Wii games I missed. It's rare when something exceeds my expectations, but I can say without question that the Wii U with it's funny little name has done just that.

Thank you. This right here expresses all my reasons why I love the system despite what people say about it. Cheaper, no stupid fee to play online, BC, and the games I want to play.

At least Nintendo isnt trying to shove DRM down your throat like Microsoft. Wii U's only problem is overall lack of games, but that is being rectified slowly.

Sure it has yet 'more Mario', but if people are playing that card look at the PS4 and Xbone libraries. How many games on them are not sequels/prequels? All the big systems have hardly any new IP.

Exactly !!! That reminds me of yet another good point with the Wii-U, the backwards compatibility, no online fees, no worries about DRM, and no mandatory game installs which are all HUGE plus's over PS4 and X-1.

#145 Posted by Slimmin360 (1485 posts) -

@sHaDyCuBe321 said:

@Slimmin360 said:

@sHaDyCuBe321 said:

@donalbane said:

What if you don't like their exclusives, though? I personally don't want to recreate the experiences I had with the outmoded games of my childhood,

I mean really. I don't want to continue reliving the same videogame experiences over and over again. That's why I'll get an Xbox One or a PS4 because every exclusive game on those systems is a fresh experiences that isn't just a carbon copy of a previous IP with a fresh coat of paint.

/sarcasm

Really? What about all the Call of Duties, Uncharted's, Halo's, God of War's, Gears of War, Ratchet & Clanks, Resident Evil's, Forza's, Gran Turismo's, GTA's, Madden's, MLB The Show........all continuing yearly franchises with a " fresh coat of paint ", to look prettier each year.

As i said earlier in this thread everyone milks a succesful franchise, Nintendo just did it first and therefore they've been doing it the longest, again as i said earlier in this thread, the above titles will have like 10 sequels each in 10 to 20 years as well, no developer dumps a succesful selling franchise if it continues to make money year after year.

"/sarcasm" means I agree with you haha.

Point taken, sorry i honestly didn't notice the sarcasm statement, my apologies.

#146 Posted by Mr-Kutaragi (1967 posts) -

wii u is out extra year.

#147 Edited by blackace (20885 posts) -

@Slimmin360: You do realize that the Wii U has been out for almost 20 months now right? Of course it has more exclusive games. The main problem with the Wii U is the lack of memory storage and it's $300 price. Drop it down to $200, increase storage to at least 120GB and include 2 bundled games and then I'll take a look. The PS3/Xbox 360 is like $250-$300 with 120GB-500GB of memory and way more exclusive games to play. Come back in a year and then lets see what's on the PS4 & XB1.

#148 Posted by sHaDyCuBe321 (4145 posts) -

@Mr-Kutaragi said:

wii u is out extra year.

Me fail English, that's unpossible.

But seriously, the bs point has been addressed numerous times in this thread.

#149 Posted by PurpleMan5000 (7321 posts) -

@blackace said:

The PS3/Xbox 360 is like $250-$300 with 120GB-500GB of memory and way more exclusive games to play.

Yes, this here is why I just can't justify paying hundreds more for a PS4 or Xbone.

#150 Edited by Slimmin360 (1485 posts) -

@blackace said:

@Slimmin360: You do realize that the Wii U has been out for almost 20 months now right? Of course it has more exclusive games. The main problem with the Wii U is the last of memory storage and it's $300 price. Drop it down to $200, increase storage to at least 120GB and include 2 bundled games and then I'll take a look. The PS3/Xbox 360 is like $250-$300 with 120GB-500GB of memory and way more exclusive games to play. Come back in a year and then lets see what's on the PS4 & XB1.

Wii-U is capable of up to a 500gb external drive which i already have for it, the PS3 and 360's games are now as much as 6 years old and have been played out, any recent released mutliplats are on X1 or PS4 so that would be the logical choice, All Wii-U games are new not 6 years old and played out.

So comparing the PS3 and 360 to the Wii-U is futile, the Wii-U is capable of better graphics, and it has the expandable Hard Drive via USB or SD slot, and with the backwards compatibility of Wii games, No online fees and no mandatory game installs, it's a much better choice overall.