Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII IGN Review

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#51 Posted by FoxbatAlpha (7422 posts) -

Isn't 7/10 good for FF these days?

#52 Posted by Salt_The_Fries (9020 posts) -

The literacy of Japanese developers stopped at The Sorrows of Young Werther. So much happened those some 250 years in-between then and now in literature.

#54 Edited by musalala (2222 posts) -

Buying Final Fantasy x HD instead

#55 Edited by Vatusus (4697 posts) -

From the GS review, the game is time constricted? wtf were they thinking? Fvck this game

#56 Posted by Heil68 (45220 posts) -

5/10 here..lolz

#57 Posted by Vatusus (4697 posts) -
@jhonMalcovich said:

Well...accept it people, JRPG is almost dead on consoles.

Tales in Xillia is the only good JRPG released in recent years.

*cough* Ni no Kuni *cough*

*cough* xenoblade: chronicles *cough*

#58 Posted by Sushiglutton (5340 posts) -

@Vatusus said:

From the GS review, the game is time constricted? wtf were they thinking? Fvck this game

Yeah I absolutely hate crap like that. After what 20-30h (?) you may have to restart the entire game? Lol wtf were they thinking?

#59 Edited by jhonMalcovich (4824 posts) -

@Vatusus said:
@jhonMalcovich said:

Well...accept it people, JRPG is almost dead on consoles.

Tales in Xillia is the only good JRPG released in recent years.

*cough* Ni no Kuni *cough*

*cough* xenoblade: chronicles *cough*

Ni No Kuni is bad. The worst combat I have ever seen in a JRPG. Linear as hell. Secondary missions, a snooze fest. Humor for 7-year olds. No voiceovers in the entire games except in cinematics. Broken Hearts missions, what are they for ? You can't even choose which heart piece to give. Zero freedom in this game. ZERO.

You can clearly see how shit No No Kuni is if you play good old school jrps such as FF6,7,9, Shin Megami Tensei games, Xenogears, etc.

Xenoblade: chronicles is the best JRPG of last gen, but it's a Wii exclusive.

By some reason JRPG are dying on Sony's platform, if we rembember how many JRPG had been released on PS2.

#60 Posted by AmazonAngry (945 posts) -

@jhonMalcovich: ni no kuni scored a 9 here didnt it?

At any rate, ive been turned off of turned based rpfs ever since ff on nes, until I played nnk. That game was terrific.

#61 Edited by Vatusus (4697 posts) -

@jhonMalcovich said:

@Vatusus said:
@jhonMalcovich said:

Well...accept it people, JRPG is almost dead on consoles.

Tales in Xillia is the only good JRPG released in recent years.

*cough* Ni no Kuni *cough*

*cough* xenoblade: chronicles *cough*

Ni No Kuni is bad. The worst combat I have ever seen in a JRPG. Linear as hell. Secondary missions, a snooze fest. Humor for 7-year olds. No voiceovers in the entire games except in cinematics. Broken Hearts missions, what are they for ? You can't even choose which heart piece to give. Zero freedom in this game. ZERO.

You can clearly see how shit No No Kuni is if you play good old school jrps such as FF6,7,9, Shin Megami Tensei games, Xenogears, etc.

Xenoblade: chronicles is the best JRPG of last gen, but it's a Wii exclusive.

I... disagree. Ni no Kuni had its share of problems but it was somethin very special. It had a charm and heart I dont see much on JRPGs these days. Oh, and I've played many old school JRPG's in my time.

#62 Posted by finalfantasy94 (26587 posts) -

Yea the time thing my diminish my fun as well depending how its handled.It seem GS reviewer was really effected by this cause ouch that review.Oh wells not everyone is going to like it.

#63 Posted by Shewgenja (9633 posts) -

I'm still pissed I paid money for FFXIII. Never finished it. First FF I haven't completed. Go figure, it's the one they run with for an entire gen unless you count XIV which .. didn't start well.

#64 Edited by finalfantasy94 (26587 posts) -

@Vatusus said:
@jhonMalcovich said:

Well...accept it people, JRPG is almost dead on consoles.

Tales in Xillia is the only good JRPG released in recent years.

*cough* Ni no Kuni *cough*

*cough* xenoblade: chronicles *cough*

xenoblade combat is fun and world itself was interesting.To bad the characters and story was boring of course that just my opinion.

#65 Edited by Bigboi500 (30076 posts) -

@jhonMalcovich said:

Well...accept it people, JRPG is almost dead on consoles.

Tales in Xillia is the only good JRPG released in recent years.

That's an uninformed comment if ever I read one.

#66 Posted by Jag85 (4616 posts) -

@Salt_The_Fries said:

The literacy of Japanese developers stopped at The Sorrows of Young Werther. So much happened those some 250 years in-between then and now in literature.

This makes no sense.

#67 Posted by charizard1605 (58259 posts) -

@finalstar2007 said:

Day 1 purchase PSN version!

couldnt care less about random people reviewing a game i want to play.. i just wish i had the money to buy the Limited Edition i mean $140 after shipping? da fuq!?

Correct me if I am wrong, but aren't you the one who is always stating and asserting how IGN is the superior reviewing website and we should go by their reviews anyway?

#68 Edited by charizard1605 (58259 posts) -

@jhonMalcovich said:

Well...accept it people, JRPG is almost dead on consoles.

Tales in Xillia is the only good JRPG released in recent years.

Lol, absolutely not.

Recent great JRPGs on consoles include Xenoblade Chronices (a game which you yourself couldn't stop praising, btw), The Last Story, Pandora's Tower, and Ni No Kuni. Plus this year, we are getting Persona 5 (the be all and end all of JRPGs) and X.

They may not be as thriving as they used to be once, but there's still some great console JRPGs kicking around.

#69 Edited by GoldenElementXL (3300 posts) -

"The great warriors of legend have no need to cover their thighs. Or torsos. Or collarbones. Or cleavage."

Gamespot is like the HR department of the video game industry. And look at the 2 staff members that feel the need to fight the objectifying of women in their reviews and coverage. Kevin and Carolyn...Interesting. I wonder what Jess thinks about it.

#70 Posted by Animal-Mother (26962 posts) -

@charizard1605 said:

7/10

Flop confirmed

'Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII is a strange end to Square's trilogy. Its fresh combat system is a great success, and the well-designed world provides more than enough reason to play through the end of Lightning's journey. At the same time, the incredibly inconsistent tone and underwhelming plot caused any story-based satisfaction to completely elude me. Lightning Returns is a good game, but one that forgets that a big part of what make the Final Fantasy games so memorable is how they created characters we could care about.'

I didn't see any hype.

BUT the scores are literally all over the place

Joystiq gave it a 4/5

GT: Gave it a 6

Gasempot gave it 5

Eurogamer gave it an 80

Game Informer gave it a 7

#71 Posted by LJS9502_basic (151458 posts) -

@RadioGooGoo said:

7 from Game Informer, 7 from IGN. Sounds like a good game for people that were looking forward to it. People that weren't should avoid as originally planned.

Yeah 7 is by no means a flop.....silly SW.

#72 Posted by Animal-Mother (26962 posts) -

@FoxbatAlpha said:

Isn't 7/10 good for FF these days?

ANY game foxbat.

#73 Edited by charizard1605 (58259 posts) -

@Animal-Mother said:

@charizard1605 said:

7/10

Flop confirmed

'Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII is a strange end to Square's trilogy. Its fresh combat system is a great success, and the well-designed world provides more than enough reason to play through the end of Lightning's journey. At the same time, the incredibly inconsistent tone and underwhelming plot caused any story-based satisfaction to completely elude me. Lightning Returns is a good game, but one that forgets that a big part of what make the Final Fantasy games so memorable is how they created characters we could care about.'

I didn't see any hype.

BUT the scores are literally all over the place

Joystiq gave it a 4/5

GT: Gave it a 6

Gasempot gave it 5

Eurogamer gave it an 80

Game Informer gave it a 7

It was a joke, yo. About how any game less than a 9 is shit.

Of course, I fully expect Lightning Returns to be shit regardless of any scores it gets based on the first two games, but that's a different matter altogether.

#74 Edited by Jakandsigz (4512 posts) -

See CureVylash, this would make more sense in the Gamespot thread not the thread with a score of 7. Poor Charizard.

Btw, that was a joke.

#75 Posted by Bigboi500 (30076 posts) -

@GoldenElementXL said:

"The great warriors of legend have no need to cover their thighs. Or torsos. Or collarbones. Or cleavage."

Gamespot is like the HR department of the video game industry. And look at the 2 staff members that feel the need to fight the objectifying of women in their reviews and coverage. Kevin and Carolyn...Interesting. I wonder what Jess thinks about it.

Kevin hates women's bodies confirmed. LOL

#76 Posted by charizard1605 (58259 posts) -

@Bigboi500 said:

@GoldenElementXL said:

"The great warriors of legend have no need to cover their thighs. Or torsos. Or collarbones. Or cleavage."

Gamespot is like the HR department of the video game industry. And look at the 2 staff members that feel the need to fight the objectifying of women in their reviews and coverage. Kevin and Carolyn...Interesting. I wonder what Jess thinks about it.

Kevin hates women's bodies confirmed. LOL

Very mature

#77 Edited by Bigboi500 (30076 posts) -

@charizard1605 said:

@Bigboi500 said:

@GoldenElementXL said:

"The great warriors of legend have no need to cover their thighs. Or torsos. Or collarbones. Or cleavage."

Gamespot is like the HR department of the video game industry. And look at the 2 staff members that feel the need to fight the objectifying of women in their reviews and coverage. Kevin and Carolyn...Interesting. I wonder what Jess thinks about it.

Kevin hates women's bodies confirmed. LOL

Very mature

Welcome to SW. lol!!

#78 Edited by Capitan_Kid (6584 posts) -

@jhonMalcovich: Tales of Xillia, tales of graces, ToX/, Tales of Zestiria, Tales of Veperia, Nier, Drakengard 3, xenoblade, Persona 5, Dark Souls., Dark Souls 2, Demons Souls, Witch and the 100 knights, Valkyria Chronicles, Godless Paradox, Disgaea D2, Ni No Kuni, Resonance of Fate, Eternal Sonata, Star Ocean 4, and so on. Just because youre not paying attention, doesnt mean they arent there

#79 Posted by charizard1605 (58259 posts) -

@Capitan_Kid said:

@jhonMalcovich: Tales of Xillia, tales of graces, ToX/, Tales of Zestiria, Tales of Veperia, Nier, Drakengard 3, xenoblade, Persona 5, Dark Souls., Dark Souls 2, Demons Souls, Witch and the 100 knights, Valkyria Chronicles, Godless Paradox, Disgaea D2, Ni No Kuni, Resonance of Fate, Eternal Sonata, Star Ocean 4, and so on. Just because youre not paying attention, doesnt mean they arent there

You forgot anything not on PlayStation

#80 Edited by jhonMalcovich (4824 posts) -

@charizard1605 said:

@jhonMalcovich said:

Well...accept it people, JRPG is almost dead on consoles.

Tales in Xillia is the only good JRPG released in recent years.

Lol, absolutely not.

Recent great JRPGs on consoles include Xenoblade Chronices (a game which you yourself couldn't stop praising, btw), The Last Story, Pandora's Tower, and Ni No Kuni. Plus this year, we are getting Persona 5 (the be all and end all of JRPGs) and X.

They may not be as thriving as they used to be once, but there's still some great console JRPGs kicking around.

Yeh. But Xenoblade Chronices, The Last Story, Pandora's Tower were Wii exclusives, and Wii is dead now. It's like saying PS2 had amazing RPGs. But what about today ? The amount of JRPG and their quality was drastically reduced. PS4/X1 have no jrpg scheduled for 2014. WiiU has an X, but it's just one game. Compare this to PS2 era when there was at least 40 JRPGs released on PS2 alone. If you try to make a top 10 JRPGs on PS3, you will have trouble to even find 10 games for it.

#81 Posted by Jakandsigz (4512 posts) -

@charizard1605 said:

@Capitan_Kid said:

@jhonMalcovich: Tales of Xillia, tales of graces, ToX/, Tales of Zestiria, Tales of Veperia, Nier, Drakengard 3, xenoblade, Persona 5, Dark Souls., Dark Souls 2, Demons Souls, Witch and the 100 knights, Valkyria Chronicles, Godless Paradox, Disgaea D2, Ni No Kuni, Resonance of Fate, Eternal Sonata, Star Ocean 4, and so on. Just because youre not paying attention, doesnt mean they arent there

You forgot anything not on PlayStation

Tales of Vesperia? Xenoblade?

#82 Posted by charizard1605 (58259 posts) -

@jhonMalcovich said:

@charizard1605 said:

@jhonMalcovich said:

Well...accept it people, JRPG is almost dead on consoles.

Tales in Xillia is the only good JRPG released in recent years.

Lol, absolutely not.

Recent great JRPGs on consoles include Xenoblade Chronices (a game which you yourself couldn't stop praising, btw), The Last Story, Pandora's Tower, and Ni No Kuni. Plus this year, we are getting Persona 5 (the be all and end all of JRPGs) and X.

They may not be as thriving as they used to be once, but there's still some great console JRPGs kicking around.

Yeh. But Xenoblade Chronices, The Last Story, Pandora's Tower were Wii exclusives, and Wii is dead now. It's like saying PS2 had amazing RPGs. But what about today ? The amount of JRPG and their quality was drastically reduced. PS4/X1 have no jrpg scheduled for 2014. WiiU has an X, but it's just one game. Compare this to PS2 era when there was at least 40 JRPGs released on PS2 alone. If you try to make a top 10 JRPGs on PS3, you will have trouble to even find 10 games for it.

Wii is dead, but it was an active platform till 2012 and the leading console of its generation. It had three excellent console JRPGs.

As for this year, we are getting Xillia 2, X, and most importantly, Persona 5. I already agreed that it's not PS2 era level, but to say they are dead is disingenious.

@Jakandsigz said:

@charizard1605 said:

@Capitan_Kid said:

@jhonMalcovich: Tales of Xillia, tales of graces, ToX/, Tales of Zestiria, Tales of Veperia, Nier, Drakengard 3, xenoblade, Persona 5, Dark Souls., Dark Souls 2, Demons Souls, Witch and the 100 knights, Valkyria Chronicles, Godless Paradox, Disgaea D2, Ni No Kuni, Resonance of Fate, Eternal Sonata, Star Ocean 4, and so on. Just because youre not paying attention, doesnt mean they arent there

You forgot anything not on PlayStation

Tales of Vesperia? Xenoblade?

My apologies, I had a complete brainfart

#83 Posted by Krelian-co (11203 posts) -

@jhonMalcovich said:

@charizard1605 said:

@jhonMalcovich said:

Well...accept it people, JRPG is almost dead on consoles.

Tales in Xillia is the only good JRPG released in recent years.

Lol, absolutely not.

Recent great JRPGs on consoles include Xenoblade Chronices (a game which you yourself couldn't stop praising, btw), The Last Story, Pandora's Tower, and Ni No Kuni. Plus this year, we are getting Persona 5 (the be all and end all of JRPGs) and X.

They may not be as thriving as they used to be once, but there's still some great console JRPGs kicking around.

Yeh. But Xenoblade Chronices, The Last Story, Pandora's Tower were Wii exclusives, and Wii is dead now. It's like saying PS2 had amazing RPGs. But what about today ? The amount of JRPG and their quality was drastically reduced. PS4/X1 have no jrpg scheduled for 2014. WiiU has an X, but it's just one game. Compare this to PS2 era when there was at least 40 JRPGs released on PS2 alone. If you try to make a top 10 JRPGs on PS3, you will have trouble to even find 10 games for it.

now you are just talking nonsense to "prove" your dumb point, the games he mentioned are very recent, some of them hardly have 2 or 3 years at most, so yes they count to "jrpgs in recent years" no matter what bs excuse you want to use to arbitrarily dismiss them, ps2 obviously had more jrpgs since it was the ending of the golden era of jrpgs and no one is arguing the quality and quantity has declined but is nowhere near dead as you in your ignorance claim.

#84 Posted by FoxbatAlpha (7422 posts) -

@Animal-Mother said:

@FoxbatAlpha said:

Isn't 7/10 good for FF these days?

ANY game foxbat.

Get your Scotch ready for Thursday!!!

#85 Posted by PurpleMan5000 (7323 posts) -

@jhonMalcovich said:

@charizard1605 said:

@jhonMalcovich said:

Well...accept it people, JRPG is almost dead on consoles.

Tales in Xillia is the only good JRPG released in recent years.

Lol, absolutely not.

Recent great JRPGs on consoles include Xenoblade Chronices (a game which you yourself couldn't stop praising, btw), The Last Story, Pandora's Tower, and Ni No Kuni. Plus this year, we are getting Persona 5 (the be all and end all of JRPGs) and X.

They may not be as thriving as they used to be once, but there's still some great console JRPGs kicking around.

Yeh. But Xenoblade Chronices, The Last Story, Pandora's Tower were Wii exclusives, and Wii is dead now. It's like saying PS2 had amazing RPGs. But what about today ? The amount of JRPG and their quality was drastically reduced. PS4/X1 have no jrpg scheduled for 2014. WiiU has an X, but it's just one game. Compare this to PS2 era when there was at least 40 JRPGs released on PS2 alone. If you try to make a top 10 JRPGs on PS3, you will have trouble to even find 10 games for it.

You realize that the PS4/X1 haven't even launched in Japan yet, right?

#86 Posted by Riverwolf007 (23865 posts) -

i give nines didn't hand out a 9?

holy shyt that must be a terrible game.

an ign 7 is like a 4 or any other site.

#87 Posted by Young_Charter (19884 posts) -

I'll wait for it when it's about 5.00. FFXIII-2 is 9.99 and I have yet to play it lol.

#88 Posted by Salt_The_Fries (9020 posts) -

@Jag85 said:

@Salt_The_Fries said:

The literacy of Japanese developers stopped at The Sorrows of Young Werther. So much happened those some 250 years in-between then and now in literature.

This makes no sense.

It makes perfect sense.

#89 Posted by mbrockway (3493 posts) -

Seems like X-2 then? People hate on that game but I stand by my opinion that it has the most fun combat of any FF game. The story also hurt my logic glands, but dangit it was fun to play. Of course I absolutely hate every single character in the 13 series so I won't be touching this though.

#90 Posted by ReadingRainbow4 (14454 posts) -

@Salt_The_Fries said:

The literacy of Japanese developers stopped at The Sorrows of Young Werther. So much happened those some 250 years in-between then and now in literature.

Please don't go equating the value of literary works that come from japan with Square-Fucking-Enix.

jesus christ..

#91 Posted by da_illest101 (7527 posts) -

@MBirdy88 said:

@da_illest101 said:

I can't wait for it to come out, after that the crap that was the FF XIII series can finally be flushed down the toilet and we can move on to better things

onto emo pop band meets akward version of Kingdom Hearts. oh boy.... such a future :P

What trailer have you been watching? I didn't see anything emo or pop band in any videos. Please don't tell me because someone wears black he is emo, that just none sense.

#92 Posted by da_illest101 (7527 posts) -

@Gue1 said:

@da_illest101 said:

I can't wait for it to come out, after that the crap that was the FF XIII series can finally be flushed down the toilet and we can move on to better things

I would say that it can't get worse than this but it can always get worse....

Yeah you are right, it can. Hopefully it won't

#93 Edited by Jag85 (4616 posts) -

@Salt_The_Fries said:

@Jag85 said:

@Salt_The_Fries said:

The literacy of Japanese developers stopped at The Sorrows of Young Werther. So much happened those some 250 years in-between then and now in literature.

This makes no sense.

It makes perfect sense.

Care to elaborate?

#94 Posted by Salt_The_Fries (9020 posts) -

@Jag85 said:

@Salt_The_Fries said:

@Jag85 said:

@Salt_The_Fries said:

The literacy of Japanese developers stopped at The Sorrows of Young Werther. So much happened those some 250 years in-between then and now in literature.

This makes no sense.

It makes perfect sense.

Care to elaborate?

They are mostly stuck in literary Romanticism (that's not the same as usual connotations of the word "romantic" in spoken, lay English) and its key ideas, both about heroes themselves as well as problems surrounding them. I don't have a lot of time at the moment, I have an appointment with a doctor, I'd be more than happy to elaborate on it even more, but I hope you caught my drift so far.

#95 Posted by g0ddyX (3914 posts) -

It's good for the fans.

#96 Edited by Ribstaylor1 (713 posts) -

13 was garbage from what I saw 13-2 was also garbage, and from most the reviews so is this game. I don't play FF for combat I play it for the story and characters and it seems to be missing in every single one of the games in the 13 series. Sucks Final fantasy resembles nothing of what I used to love about the series in my younger years.

#97 Edited by finalfantasy94 (26587 posts) -

@ribstaylor1 said:

13 was garbage from what I saw 13-2 was also garbage, and from most the reviews so is this game. I don't play FF for combat I play it for the story and characters and it seems to be missing in every single one of the games in the 13 series. Sucks Final fantasy resembles nothing of what I used to love about the series in my younger years.

It acutally seems split on reviews. I dont see it leaning towards one or another.

#98 Edited by Animal-Mother (26962 posts) -

@mbrockway said:

Seems like X-2 then? People hate on that game but I stand by my opinion that it has the most fun combat of any FF game. The story also hurt my logic glands, but dangit it was fun to play. Of course I absolutely hate every single character in the 13 series so I won't be touching this though.

I wasn't crazy about X-2 But it does seem to be akin to that due to the schemata.
The story this in so far is very blahsey even for me. But I am finding it fun to play.

#99 Posted by Jakandsigz (4512 posts) -

Damn 67 on MC and going down. What the heck did they do to this game?

#100 Edited by Gue1 (10214 posts) -

@Jakandsigz said:

Damn 67 on MC and going down. What the heck did they do to this game?

the game has fun battle system but it sucks at everything else. Terribly.