Let's talk about StarFox Zero!!!!! Are you hype?

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#1  Edited By TigerSuperman
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At the announcement of Star Fox Zero, and the recent news giving us more details about the game, the Wii U finally has a game one would actually buy. I have already brought my Black Wii U in preparation for this event. Although, I am not too much of a fan of P*(or is it P+?) games, this is Starfox, and they can't possibly mess this up.

In addition, since they are usually action game developers, I am expecting a refined version of Starfox Assault. From trailers showing ground combat, that seems to be exactly the case, though with the ship instead of on foot... But that's ok, I guess.

The game looks FANTASTIC (in motion)! I was wondering how they were going to pull off a great looking rail shooter with a more open direction and they achieved this with flying colors (pun intended) to my surprise. I'm expecting great things out of this game, and at least, being on level or above, Star Fox Assault, aka, best Star Fox of all time, aka, 2nd best game on the Gamecube.

Sadly this game is outsourced, so I don't expect future Nintendo games to go in this direction, but what can you do? At least they approved this game to be released, and I can't wait to play it. Day 1 buy (I don't pre-order) for sure!!!!

I... do have a couplemeasly concerns though, it seems the Gamepad from the footage we are given, and info I have so far, once again is not really used. I hear no word of playing only with the Pro Controller as an option, if they make it so that the Gamepad is not required then this would make the game even better, but I have a bad feeling about this.

There's also the lack of real huds or cinematic communication during play, they seem to be using SF64's old small square talking text boxes, which takes me out the immersion quite a bit.

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#2 freedomfreak
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Ah, so you're back making threads. You must've been suspended for quite some time.

Anyway, I think it looks lame.

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#3 deactivated-5acbb9993d0bd
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Looks dated, but will probably be enjoyable for alittle while.

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#4 TigerSuperman
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@freedomfreak said:

Ah, so you're back making threads. You must've been suspended for quite some time.

Anyway, I think it looks lame.

I was never suspended.

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#5  Edited By freedomfreak
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@TigerSuperman said:

I was never suspended.

Please, stay on-topic.

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@freedomfreak said:
@TigerSuperman said:

I was never suspended.

Please, stay on-topic.

You're currently off topic.

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#7 SexyJazzCat
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Nah. Looks really lame.

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#8 freedomfreak
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@TigerSuperman said:

You're currently off topic.

I commented on the game. You refused to comment on that. You're off-topic.

Requesting lock.

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#9  Edited By OhSnapitz
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I don't own a 3DS so...

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@OhSnapitz said:

I don't own a 3DS so.. I'll pass.

This is a Wii U game.

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#11  Edited By DocSanchez
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Really uninspiring. I've seen a lot of better shooters in my time at least at this stage.

See this is basically linear (although not as linear as the original SF) and yet look how many enemies are on screen. Four? Graphics obviously uninspiring, for last gen. If this didn't have the star fox name attached no one would be talking about it.

Also, the muppets turning into starfox characters really made it sound embarrassing.

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#12 OhSnapitz
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@TigerSuperman said:
@OhSnapitz said:

I don't own a 3DS so.. I'll pass.

This is a Wii U game.

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#13 John_of_Rivia
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I've into owned one star fox game on the GameCube, but I forgot its name. I gave up on a button mashing portion where I had to push someone into a pit. Other than that, it was fun.

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#14 PurpleMan5000
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The game looks great. I'm getting it day one.

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#15 freedom01  Moderator
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day one for me, looked fun

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#16 DocSanchez
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@john_of_rivia: Starfox adventures? Hated by most for some reason. I don't know why particularly.

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#17 Ant_17
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Hyped? Sorry but i'm not.

Maybe check it out in 5 or 6 years.

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#18  Edited By emgesp
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While I am excited, it just seems like a low budget effort. It is cool that the game looks like a true successor to Star Fox 64, but I feel they aren't putting as much resources behind this project compared to Mario Kart, or Smash Bros. It kinda looks like an original Wii game remastered in HD. I wished they gave this game more development time.

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#19  Edited By KBFloYd
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im hyped :D

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#20 TigerSuperman
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@emgesp said:

While I am excited, it just seems like a low budget effort. It is cool that the game looks like a true successor to Star Fox 64, but I feel they aren't putting as much resources behind this project compared to Mario Kart, or Smash Bros. It kinda looks like an original Wii game remastered in HD. I wished they gave this game more development time.

What do you mean?

Tons of texture and assets, more open field of movement, ground combat, large enemies, smoother framrate.

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#21  Edited By OhSnapitz
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@emgesp said:

While I am excited, it just seems like a low budget effort. It is cool that the game looks like a true successor to Star Fox 64, but I feel they aren't putting as much resources behind this project compared to Mario Kart, or Smash Bros. It kinda looks like an original Wii game remastered in HD. I wished they gave this game more development time.

That's what I don't get... MK8 looks phenomenal (WiiU standards) as does Smash bros.. it's like they're not even trying.

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#22  Edited By emgesp
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@TigerSuperman said:
@emgesp said:

While I am excited, it just seems like a low budget effort. It is cool that the game looks like a true successor to Star Fox 64, but I feel they aren't putting as much resources behind this project compared to Mario Kart, or Smash Bros. It kinda looks like an original Wii game remastered in HD. I wished they gave this game more development time.

What do you mean?

Tons of texture and assets, more open field of movement, ground combat, large enemies, smoother framrate.

The graphics are uninspiring even for the Wii U's capabilities. The Wii U is capable of much better graphics than this even with the same art style.

This just looks bad.

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#23 emgesp
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Also, the game is incredibly empty. We should be seeing epic space battles of countless ships in the background.

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#24 princeofshapeir
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What was shown looks bad.

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#25 GameboyTroy
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Here's some gameplay. The graphics have to be better. The gameplay looks great though.

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#26 TigerSuperman
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@emgesp said:

graphics bad

Huh?

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@emgesp said:

Also, the game is incredibly empty. We should be seeing epic space battles of countless ships in the background.

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#28  Edited By emgesp
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@TigerSuperman said:
@emgesp said:

graphics bad

Huh?

You're just proving my point more. Look how empty Star Fox 0 looks in that screen shot. Where the hell is everything?

Also, why did you post a screenshot of Doom 4?

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#29  Edited By madsnakehhh
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Game looks fun, but i'm really hoping is loaded with content and big space battles.

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#30  Edited By KBFloYd
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@emgesp said:
@TigerSuperman said:
@emgesp said:

graphics bad

Huh?

You're just proving my point more. Look how empty Star Fox 0 looks in that screen shot. Where the hell is everything?

Also, why did you post a screenshot of Doom 4?

this isnt star wars....starfox gameplay depends on few enemies on the screen.

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#31  Edited By emgesp
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@KBFloYd said:
@emgesp said:
@TigerSuperman said:
@emgesp said:

graphics bad

Huh?

You're just proving my point more. Look how empty Star Fox 0 looks in that screen shot. Where the hell is everything?

Also, why did you post a screenshot of Doom 4?

this isnt star wars....starfox gameplay depends on few enemies on the screen.

Doesn't mean you can't have stuff going on in the background. Just adds to the immersion of a game.

Anyways, the reason why Star Fox games in the past relied on few enemies came down to technical limitations. The original Star Fox game only ran at 15-20fps.

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#32 TigerSuperman
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@emgesp said:
@TigerSuperman said:
@emgesp said:

graphics bad

Huh?

You're just proving my point more. Look how empty Star Fox 0 looks in that screen shot. Where the hell is everything?

Also, why did you post a screenshot of Doom 4?

This is an intro to the level, I'm just showing the graphics are pretty good, just look at the water and the scale in the background of the city/islands.

I'm sure things will be tweaked before the game comes out.

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#33 emgesp
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@TigerSuperman said:
@emgesp said:
@TigerSuperman said:
@emgesp said:

graphics bad

Huh?

You're just proving my point more. Look how empty Star Fox 0 looks in that screen shot. Where the hell is everything?

Also, why did you post a screenshot of Doom 4?

This is an intro to the level, I'm just showing the graphics are pretty good, just look at the water and the scale in the background of the city/islands.

I'm sure things will be tweaked before the game comes out.

It isn't the worst looking game out there, but it isn't pushing the Wii U to its limits. I guess this was to be expected for a game that had limited development time.

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#34  Edited By TigerSuperman
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@emgesp said:
@KBFloYd said:
@emgesp said:
@TigerSuperman said:
@emgesp said:

graphics bad

Huh?

You're just proving my point more. Look how empty Star Fox 0 looks in that screen shot. Where the hell is everything?

Also, why did you post a screenshot of Doom 4?

this isnt star wars....starfox gameplay depends on few enemies on the screen.

Doesn't mean you can't have stuff going on in the background. Just adds to the immersion of a game.

Anyways, the reason why Star Fox games in the past relied on few enemies came down to technical limitations. The original Star Fox game only ran at 15-20fps.

Compare to Star Fox assault for a more accurate comparison.

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#35 Bread_or_Decide
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The levels feel so empty. 1997 called it wants its dated game design back.

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#36 Guy_Brohski
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I might just buy this in a few years when its 99¢ on Nintendo's Android platform.

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#37 Ragnarok1051
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@TigerSuperman said:
@freedomfreak said:

Ah, so you're back making threads. You must've been suspended for quite some time.

Anyway, I think it looks lame.

I was never suspended.

Must have been because you've created 4-5 threads in the past hour.

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#38  Edited By GameboyTroy
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@TigerSuperman said:
@emgesp said:

graphics bad

Huh?

Here's another screen.

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@GameboyTroy said:
@TigerSuperman said:
@emgesp said:

graphics bad

Huh?

Here's another screen.

That's a low res compressed screen.

Even the youtube footage looks better than that. I'm sure smaller things will be fixed before release.

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#40 DaVillain  Moderator
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I already gave my opinion on SFZ.

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#41  Edited By GameboyTroy
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@TigerSuperman said:
@GameboyTroy said:
@TigerSuperman said:
@emgesp said:

graphics bad

Huh?

Here's another screen.

That's a low res compressed screen.

Even the youtube footage looks better than that. I'm sure smaller things will be fixed before release.

How about this one? I did the best I could. Why would Gamespot post low res compressed screens?

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#42 TigerSuperman
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@davillain- said:

I already gave my opinion on SFZ.

where?

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#43 foxhound_fox
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It honestly looks like a game that would have been on the Gamecube.

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@TigerSuperman said:
@davillain- said:

I already gave my opinion on SFZ.

where?

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/was-anybody-impress-with-star-fox-zero-gameplay-sh-32162509/#59

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#45  Edited By Bread_or_Decide
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@foxhound_fox said:

It honestly looks like a game that would have been on the Gamecube.

It pales in comparison to the ingenuity found in 3D World and Bayonetta 2.

I hope the more they reveal the better it looks. Much like Mario Maker and 3D World, two games that got better the more they revealed.

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#46 emgesp
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The game is only a couple months away from being released. You will not see a big graphical increase from those screen grabs and the final product.

Though, at least we know the frame rate should be damn smooth given the game isn't pushing the Wii U to its limits graphically.

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#47 TigerSuperman
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@emgesp said:

The game is only a couple months away from being released. You will not see a big graphical increase from those screen grabs and the final product.

Though, at least we know the frame rate should be damn smooth given the game isn't pushing the Wii U to its limits graphically.

Huh? Nintendo stated that the footage we got was made ahead of time for E3, I'm sure some texture res tweaks will happen. I mean look at the water effects.

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#48 John_of_Rivia
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@DocSanchez: I was extremely young when I played it. I wish I could remember. But that ONE part just stopped me from playing.

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#49 aroxx_ab
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The game got terrible controls, will skip this game because of that. Wii-tablet is just terrible

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#50 murat8
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Personally no. I just don't like flying games in general.