Lets take a trip back to 2006

If they have batteries why do they need a $25 charge and play kit? Why is it that you assume that people who like the convenience of swapping out batteries in 10 seconds are somehow apologizing for MS? Like somehow in 2014 AA batteries are obsolete or something.

5-7 hours is about the norm, or are you saying mine, and my friend's DS4s are all defective? Actually why am I even arguing about this with you. Just do a Google search and there are tons of complaints about the short battery life on the DS4.

Yeah the first price drop was in 2007, but sales didn't really take off for the PS3 until after the 2009 price drop. The one spurred by Activision threatening to stop making games for the PS3 if the price wasn't dropped. Why did they threaten this? Because no one was buying the PS3, and Activision wasn't selling games on the console.

Why is it not quite the same for the XBone to recover? Do you really think that the PS4 is just outselling the XBone because of it's massive library of launch games...lol? We are 6 months into these two consoles lives. Trust me it wouldn't take much for the sales to tip the other way.

The PS3 worth was up to$1,400 if you actually wanted a Blu-ray player and xbox 360,blu-ray stand alone was $1,000 dollars,so basically sony sold people a Blu-ray player which by the way had the best image quality,and a next gen console all for $600 the PS3 was more than $800 dollars to manufacture,while been sold at $600,it was expensive but worth every damn dollar and then some..

Oh and Resistance scored 86% higher than any xbox one exclusive on Meta on launch.

The xbox one is weak and under power yet it cost more than the PS4,ad in fact in UK the xbox one was even more expensive on launch than the PS3,but didn't offer the value the PS3 had on 2006.

Your first link is bullsh** like it always happen on pre,launch in fact did you see sony delivering a patch on launch to eliminate the block on used games.?

No all the contrary Sony allowed owner to share PSN game with up to 5 people,he whole used games crap was based on a Patent awarded to sony on 2005 sound familiar.?

Yeah like it happen last year where people were claiming that sony would block used games based on a Patent,when it was MS who intended to block then and didn't own a patent on it.

http://www.itproportal.com/2005/11/09/ps3-to-block-used-games/

The one that talk about Final Fantasy is a joke is for Japan,on Japan used games were illegal,it wasn't like in US in fact you can trace this to older consoles than the PS1.

Yes that same gave newell make portal 2 on PS3 and call the PS3 version he best version,oh wait maybe it was because the PS3 version had co-op with the PC version something the xbox 360 version totally lack because of MS policies..

Supporting indies on PS3 would have been a nightmare,first the PS3 was expensive tech,and second it was hard as hell to the point where big houses like EA,Activision and other have problems making games imagine how much sadder it would have been for Indies,but mind you that it was sony who sparked indies on consoles with its net Yaroze on 1,a cheap PS1 dev kit,when MS wasn't even on the console market.

No lemmings claimed it had no games,and did so for way more than 3 years,before the PS3 was actually 1 year old already Uncharted was out,Warhawk as well as several other games.

Maybe you were not here,because sony was mock by the PS3 price for years,and sales here were a parade for 360 fans specially NPD which now some xbox fans like William Baker and sts106mat want to avoid like a plague...

Sony catch MS sales wise because MS never had a competent consoles outside US or UK,the rest of the world was PS3 all the way..

Backward compatibility was remove to lower cost,since i was a day 1 owned it didn't affect me,but some sacrifices had to be made,hell it wasn't like you could not buy a PS2 cheap when that happen sony still sold them.

There are games that support 7 players with 7 controllers,see this is what i hate about fanboys you claim to own something but you don't really know your console,lol...

Oh and the whole 7 controller was more of side effect of Bluetooth than anything else,sony just allowed them.

One of the games that support 7 controllers...

Are you using mandatory install against the PS3.? I guess you most have hate PC,because rather than partially installing the game,on PC all the game get install,and just from 1 disc,i remember my copy of UT 2004 on PC was 5 disc to install.

Oh but wait didn't the xbox 360 got HDD installs.? Yeah in some games is even mandatory..lol

Even that MS sold units without HDD...lol

So many lies yes so did MS,like all games will be 720p minimum with 4Xaa..

What anti consumer things the PS3 had.?

It had blu-ray which gave you 1080p movies for a fraction of the retail price.

It had free online play,

It had online browser which allowed you to even watch videos on sites like Hulu,

Didn't force you to buy batteries with a separate charger.,

Didn't charge you $100 for a 20GB HDD or $99 for a crappy ass wifi adapter that on PC was $19 dollars or less,nor sell you a dead format HD-DVD for $200 separate.

Yeah it was the PS3 the one anti consumer,what console blocked Netflix,hulu,internet explorer and all its apps under a pay wall.?

Who charged you for online play since 2002.?

Yeah the PS3 was anti consumer lol...

Poor sad lemming..

TLHBO

it's hard to believe what a huge joke the ps3 was for literally years in sw.

how long was it before mgs 4 came out and the ps3 managed to get a game with a score above 8.

3 years?

then it was how lousy it ran multiplats and what a joke psn was and how they were stripping everything out of it to get to a price point people would buy it at and the whole rumble fiasco and how the sony executives were all batshit crazy with hype while the ps3 was garbage.

that era was nothing but laughs.

good thing sony learned their lesson and actually put effort into the ps4.

So the 2nd worst poster on this site, tries to use the worst posters post as TLHBO? lol And my PS3 and 4 say I'm not a lem (and 1 and 2 of you really wanna go there) I love the playstation, I just hate a lot of the idiots who support it blindly. Not because they support sony, but because they are obnoxious and uninformed and just overall giant loud internet jerks. But thanks for helping prove my point ;)

My apologies for any jabs at not understanding what you were saying.

Funny how PS3 won the generation with the best games though.

Lemmings are the new cows?...lol

Remember when sony fans use to look into the PS2 for refuge of been owned sales wise.?

Yeah... this thread is a reminder of how things change,and that Karma is really a bitch..hahahaha

What Lems failed to acknowledge & admit then was Sony has a greater consumer base and is more liked than MS & even with all the advantages MS had then didn't matter, because more consumers would rather buy a PS than an Xbox. It gave MS & Lems a false sense of reality when the 360 was ahead of PS3 sales. It was because of advantages MS had for one lucky gen for them. 1. Huge advantage was a year's headstart. 2. Huge advantage of being $200 less. 3. Advantage of better multiplats with better graphics. Can you imagine what would happen if MS released the Xbox One a year after the PS4 & $200 higher priced? Look how easily the PS4 is outselling the Xbox One with far far fewer advantages than the 360 had!

The fact that the PS3 came from behind should have Lems never questioning Sony's consumer stronghold with the PlayStation brand. Yet here we are still on SW with many of them still denying that the PS4 is going to win. WTF? Seriously?

This thread is one big pile of shit.

People came back to Sony because they have the first party studios that M$ does not. Not sure anyway else to explain a 1 year, 10 million console lead evaporated while the PS3 was never cheaper than the 360.

M$ will never catch up this gen.

XBone isn't gonna make a comeback OP. It doesn't have the worldwide appeal or first party studios Sony has to stage a comeback. You have to remember that the PS3 was outselling the 360 from day one worldwide despite being $200 more, something that the XBone isn't close to doing. XBone is getting owned worldwide by the PS4 with no signs of relief.

Let it go lems, the XBone is not the PS3, going back 8 years to damage control the Xflop One is the height of desperation guys.

Yes Sony does have a lot more fans. Thats why the PS3 was such a terrible idea. Sony got so cocky, they thought they could get away with anything. Sure in the end it turned out fine, but the blatant fanboysim love sony gets, its what will cause them to stop trying. I mean look at all their other divisions. Their TVs, laptops (sold off), Phones etc. Their products suck because sony still thinks they can sell at a premium price because of their name. The only good product sony makes now is the PS4. Their Tvs, phones, everything aren't top 3 in anything, but they charge like they are.

Yes true, but look what MS wanted to pull with the Xbox One. Both companies have messed up, but that aside Sony has a way bigger worldwide consumer base for their gaming consoles.

except the PS3 wasn't state of the art hardware. It was terribly designed. Devs pointed it out from the beginning and even to this day multi plats are worse on it then the 360. Some games flat out broken. Yes the free online was a good selling point, but PSN was terrible when it launched. it really only got better 2-3 years down the road. Also what about people who didn't want a BD player? right? I mean according to system wars a console is for games only? So why pay an extra 200 dollars for weaker hardware just because it plays blu ray?

@darkangel115: the ps3 launched with an equivalent $400 graphics card, and akward but powerful cell. Also the cheapest blu Ray players at the time were $500 alone. The blu Ray player also benefited games as well because they weren't multi disk.

By 1 week troll...hahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

A fake quad core CPU on 2006 was $1,000+ alone and wasn't true quad cores those arrived on 2007..lol

So $1600 for CPU and GPU alone..hahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Oh did i use the fact that PSN games could be share with up to 5 of your friends.? can you share your PC games with me.? Hahaha bububut value and online was free on PS3 as well..lol

Is forgotten already..haha

And no unless you have the high rated exclusive on PC to prove so,do you have something higher rated than TLOU on PC last year.? Share it... Oh wait but you also still waiting for GTA5..lol

All that shit storm around the PS3 was the gaming media playing buddy buddy with Microsoft. Hind-sight being 20/20, the PS3 was the more powerful system. It was the cheaper system to own despite its pricepoint due to the free online. It was backed with more and better first party exclusives. It was also a very good BluRay player at the time it launched.

Microsoft opened the door for PS3 to catch up. When they switched focus to Kinect and abandoned gamers like me, we went to where the grass was greener. I used to buy into that bullshit we were all fed until I actually had one of my own and appreciated exactly how much a better system it really was. THAT is a major reason why things are the way they are now.

Sure, there are a number of people who owe brand loyalty to the XBox the same way that brand loyalty was pushing the PS3 early on. That's not to say there is real credibility to the bullshit like the DRM rumors, "Cell being broken and not working", BluRay costing $1000, PS3 overheating by the truck load and all that other stuff I bought back then which led me to get a 360. Microsoft was LUCKY that they had the developer support and messaging right with the gamers back then because RRoD tested a lot of peoples patience. The rumor mill surrounding the PS3 and the press playing along with it made sure people turned around and went through three or four XBoxes rather than give PS3 a chance until all signs pointed to a company drunk on sales chasing after the Wii's pot-o-gold leaving the gamers spinning in place.

What Lems failed to acknowledge & admit then was Sony has a greater consumer base and is more liked than MS & even with all the advantages MS had then didn't matter, because more consumers would rather buy a PS than an Xbox. It gave MS & Lems a false sense of reality when the 360 was ahead of PS3 sales. It was because of advantages MS had for one lucky gen for them. 1. Huge advantage was a year's headstart. 2. Huge advantage of being $200 less. 3. Advantage of better multiplats with better graphics. Can you imagine what would happen if MS released the Xbox One a year after the PS4 & $200 higher priced? Look how easily the PS4 is outselling the Xbox One with far far fewer advantages than the 360 had!

The fact that the PS3 came from behind should have Lems never questioning Sony's consumer stronghold with the PlayStation brand. Yet here we are still on SW with many of them still denying that the PS4 is going to win. WTF? Seriously?

@misterpmedia: wow, System wars now has a Fanboy, of Sony fanboys.

1 week in Japan, and in Europe (where i live) several months before the ps3.

fake quad core that even a dual core annihilate the ps3, not to mention that several months after you coud get a similar quad core for 1/3 of the cost.

You can share any PC game, the same way you can on consoles.

more exlusives and the best version of multiplats is far more important than a singel crappy game. Bacasue:

• more exlusives = fact.
• best version of multiplats = fact
• high rated exclusive = opinion

Still butthurt that a 8800GTX play games with better graphics and performance than ps3?

Haha, yeah terrible times for cows back then... Almost two years straight of getting kicked in the nuts, most of them abandoned the board until MGS4 came out.

What's amazing though is seeing how so many lems have taken on the same delusional traits that I once thought were exclusive to cows. I mean they aren't that bad yet and they aren't acting like self entitled pricks... but it's getting a little too close for comfort. Get it together lems!

No dude the card came on November on US here by some days...

Dual core what.? hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Even the actual quad core of that time where sh** compare to the parallel power of the Cell,a quad core may had been better than Cell running an OS,but when it came to brute force the Cell slapped that dual core into china,in fact encoding movies Cell would completely destroy a quad core from 2007 and even stronger CPU of newer years,have you forgot Folding home and how the PS3 was spanking PC which used their CPU alone even that they have way less PS3 on the project.?

1,629,354 PC vs 41,044 PS3 and the PS3 was producing 494 TF while the PC was producing 154TF.?

Man the ratio of PC per PS3 was huge and still Cell kicked the living crap out of PC.

A novel transcoding tool Fixstars allows for the conversion of video material on the Full HD format, with the help of a Playstation 3 in real time.

The conversion of video footage in Full HD movies at a resolution of 1920 x 1080 provides current desktop CPUs with a lengthy task. This allows the transcoding of a movie sometimes half a day.

Now put Linux Developer Fixstars a video converter called Codecsys CE-10, which was to encode movies into MPEG-4-AVC format (H.265) The Cell processor uses a Playstation 3 - this format will be predominantly on Blu-Ray media or IP-TV via video-stream uses. The CE-10-encoder sends out from a Windows PC, the output data via Ethernet to the console, which finished the encoded data back to the PC sends back.

According to the announcement of Fixstars reached the Cell processor of the Playstation a performance of 29 FPS, that is 1.2 times real-time conversion - the cell has a similar performance as the CUDA Badaboom encoder in combination with an Nvidia Geforce GTX-285. By comparison, Intel's current top-CPU, the Core i7 965 XE, does it still at 18 FPS - normal desktop CPUs even create only about 5 FPS.

http://www.nairaland.com/275825/ps-cell-faster-than-core

http://archive.benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=253&Itemid=63&limit=1&limitstart=1

You know that core i7 was $1,000 on late November 2008 right.?

That test was done just a few months after it came,Cell was for a video game console not for OS running on PC,and for that it kicked the crap out of any dual core or quad core of his era and and some even beyond its era,like this comparison show 1,2 times real time conversion at 29 FPS when a $1,000 CPU could do 18FPS is a achievement of epic proportions for Cell which was a console CPU.

Running general purpose crap a quad core or dual core may beat it,but when doing heavy lifting Cell kicked them hard, look at normal desktop CPU remark 5 FPS..lol

No you can't share PC games as you do wit consoles stop lying..

That single crappy game >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all PC exclusives in years,oh wait i forgot that consoles dominate those charts hey the highest rated ones are from Wii and N64 the only entry close is Half life which is multiplatform even that it started on PC,after that PC has nothing even close to relevant,even that they have tons of games..

Hahahaa...........

Reviews = opinions where have i read that before oh yeah on some lemming call Kingtito who loss a score argument with me,so he dismiss scores as opinions,doesn't stop him from riding those same score to call PS games flop,just like it hasn't stop you..hahahaha

Sony Fan on a rampage in here, and Cow Whisperers aplenty.

Price will be sorted out shortly and right now The One has the most compelling software on their system of the two.

@misterpmedia: wow, System wars now has a Fanboy, of Sony fanboys.

• PS3 released, November 11, 2006 (in Japan)
• PS3 released, March 23, 2007 (in Europe)
• 8800GTX released, November 8, 2006 (global)

4.5 months late for an inferior hardware LOL

a dual core with a 8800GTX annihilate the ps3, proof, multiplats performance and look better.

i7-920 cost around $300 in November 2008 and that CPU is faster than the PS4 cpu. (very funny that you compare it with the PS3 LOLOLOL) tormentos never fail to entertain, well done!!!

You can share PC games as you do wit consoles...

again

• number of exlusives = fact.
• best version of multiplats = fact
• reviews scores = opinion (people have different tastes do you know that? so a good game for you it is not a good game from someone else, and the opposite)

lol

That last picture brings me back.

nah, it didnt

Because the rules are different for Sony to some. Many wont admit it, but "it only does everything" says it all. Xbox one tries to take that approach to a degree and its all bad, non gaming. And weaker hardware, well if power is the issue why settle for a PS4? PC trumps all. I always get both, will do so again. I have an xbox one, and if it wasn't for school, I'd get to play more. If it wasn't for the GI Bill living stipend, I wouldn't have enrolled in summer classes!! But that money is good and will buy a few games, and a PS4.

Sony Fan on a rampage in here, and Cow Whisperers aplenty.

Price will be sorted out shortly and right now The One has the most compelling software on their system of the two.

So wait a moron comes and claim the PS3 was anti consumer,and i can point out what anti consumer really mean.?

I guess you still hurting from my arguments so tell me,how does anything you say change the fact that you need to buy a separate charge with rechargeable batteries for your 360 while you didn't need it for PS3.?

Oh wait the xbox one again does the same sh**....hahaha

So you are use to get rip off by MS is that it.? hahahaaa

@darkangel115: I think the reason is that Sony fans expected the PS3 to crush the 360; given how the previous generation went. They are still upset that didn't happen. So, they are making a huge deal over this gen (even though it is only 6 months old) as some sort of weird "payback".

Good thread, btw. I had forgotten about a lot of that stuff.

That is a PS3/4 advantage.