it was kind of the same way with the Xbox 360 and PS3 I thought, that texture detail seems slightly diminished due to a anti-aliasing softening effect with the PS3 and the Xbox 360 seemed to have sharper textures but it came with the aliasing, looks to be the same case with the X1 and PS4
Who gives a shit what xbots and fanboys say. Every publication has the PS4 version on top. Higer resolution higher frame rate. PS4 gpu is 50% more powerful and the ram is twice as fast; get over it.
Thanks for posting that pic....I'll take the upscaled version. Whatever MS is doing to "trick" us...I prefer it. Just like when I played the whole AC series on X360 but my ex gf made a mistake and bought me AC3 for PS3...I noticed the washed out, lack of detail instantly.
And I have a new 65" Panasonic ZT60 professionally calibrated so no, I will not be messing with any settings.
lmfao... It's not "washed-out", dumbass. That's how the game is actually supposed to look. The top image is the "unnatural" version. Compare the roof in those 2 pics. You can clearly note the detail in the bottom pic, but you can hardly note anything in the top pic. It's pitch black for the most part.
Secondly, I just said you can do the same thing on the PS4. Just go to your TV settings and change the picture quality to vivid mode. It'll do the same exact thing, except now, you'll have both unnatural colors AND higher resolution. The PS4 still wins.
Finally, with a TV size that big, the PS4 version will clearly look better than the Xbone version whether you're playing with natural or unnatural colors.
**Applause** BattlefieldFan3 is right. Although, the crushed blacks makes the picture "pop" more you lose out on a TON of detail. Like he already mentioned. If you look at the roof of the level from the KI image all the detail is lost and it looks like Jago doesn't have hair because it's blended into the black.
If you care about picture quality at all you stay away from crushed blacks PERIOD. Having high end equipment I game on and having my TV professional calibrated (not Best Buy, but an actual ISF professional) it makes a HUGE difference. At first you think over saturation, crushed blacks, etc. look good. But when everything is properly calibrated you can't go back to crushed blacks, over saturation, etc...my friends are always amazing at the level of detail my TV shows. My girl is one of those "a TV is just a TV and if it has picture and sound of any kind, it's good for me" types. She was floored by how good the picture is on my TV.
I've helped calibrate some of my friends TVs for them (not professionally) and they HATED the way their TV looked at first. I told them to give it a week. They love it and say it's a huge improvement from before. The reason is...the picture on their TV looks NATURAL to the human eye now.
Cows so mad the X1 version has more detail. Refuse to even acknowledge it. Sad really.
Yeah, look at how detailed those jaggies and deep black textures are.
Xbox won. I guess.
Yes, XBOX ONE did win with BF4. Stop cherry picking screenshots.
Cows will never get over this. It will always be remembered as the case where the supposedly more "powerful" console got a worse version of a AAA multiplat shooter.
Don't worry Cows, you can expect more of the same in the future. Some XBOX ONE multiplats will look better, some PS4 multiplats will look better. That's just how the gaming industry is. Get used to it and stop whining every time an XBOX ONE multiplat looks better.
Uh didn't Digital Foundry find that BF4 looked better on PS4?
They did, though they said they fucked up their capturing and apologised for it. PS4 looks nowhere near as washed out as it does.
To clarify: THE XBONE VERSION STILL LOOKS WORSE THAN IMPROPERLY CAPTURED PS4 FOOTAGE
BLUNDER OF THE CENTURY
Um no....the XB1 version is hiding flaws with the crushed blacks...
Also NO game looks washed out on my TV...fix your calibration and you won't have that issue.
I love that 9 of 10 Cows site 'crushed blacks' when referring to The One games. Yet they couldn't tell you in their own words what that means and how it affects a game.
Goes back to playing MaxTCB and Halo Spartan Assault.
@enviouseyezonme: Sure, let's have another look, but let's have a look at them both in person, physically in front of the TV. Comparison videos on the internet can never truly, accurately, depict the differences.
I own both consoles. You have to see the differences for yourself. The PS4 has better graphics and is faster, but not by much. But Xbox One has more features and does more. It's a better all-around system IMO, but if a console for the games and nothing but the games is all you care about, the PS4 is better.
I love that 9 of 10 Cows site 'crushed blacks' when referring to The One games. Yet they couldn't tell you in their own words what that means and how it affects a game.
Goes back to playing MaxTCB and Halo Spartan Assault.
Glitchfest4 is pathetic on all levels.
Glitchfest 4? Shouldn't it be like Glitchfield 4 or BattleGlitch 4
I love that 9 of 10 Cows site 'crushed blacks' when referring to The One games. Yet they couldn't tell you in their own words what that means and how it affects a game.
Goes back to playing MaxTCB and Halo Spartan Assault.
Glitchfest4 is pathetic on all levels.
Glitchfest 4? Shouldn't it be like Glitchfield 4 or BattleGlitch 4
Thanks for posting that pic....I'll take the upscaled version. Whatever MS is doing to "trick" us...I prefer it. Just like when I played the whole AC series on X360 but my ex gf made a mistake and bought me AC3 for PS3...I noticed the washed out, lack of detail instantly.
And I have a new 65" Panasonic ZT60 professionally calibrated so no, I will not be messing with any settings.
lmfao... It's not "washed-out", dumbass. That's how the game is actually supposed to look. The top image is the "unnatural" version. Compare the roof in those 2 pics. You can clearly note the detail in the bottom pic, but you can hardly note anything in the top pic. It's pitch black for the most part.
Secondly, I just said you can do the same thing on the PS4. Just go to your TV settings and change the picture quality to vivid mode. It'll do the same exact thing, except now, you'll have both unnatural colors AND higher resolution. The PS4 still wins.
Finally, with a TV size that big, the PS4 version will clearly look better than the Xbone version whether you're playing with natural or unnatural colors.
**Applause** BattlefieldFan3 is right. Although, the crushed blacks makes the picture "pop" more you lose out on a TON of detail. Like he already mentioned. If you look at the roof of the level from the KI image all the detail is lost and it looks like Jago doesn't have hair because it's blended into the black.
If you care about picture quality at all you stay away from crushed blacks PERIOD. Having high end equipment I game on and having my TV professional calibrated (not Best Buy, but an actual ISF professional) it makes a HUGE difference. At first you think over saturation, crushed blacks, etc. look good. But when everything is properly calibrated you can't go back to crushed blacks, over saturation, etc...my friends are always amazing at the level of detail my TV shows. My girl is one of those "a TV is just a TV and if it has picture and sound of any kind, it's good for me" types. She was floored by how good the picture is on my TV.
I've helped calibrate some of my friends TVs for them (not professionally) and they HATED the way their TV looked at first. I told them to give it a week. They love it and say it's a huge improvement from before. The reason is...the picture on their TV looks NATURAL to the human eye now.
Mine is ISF calibrated as well and what you're explaining is fine for TV or Blu Ray viewing but not with games. If you're playing games on your new TV with motion enhancers or whatever, your set should be in GAME MODE which turns off all processes of the TV. The colors are given a "punch" in GAME MODE as well and even though my GAME MODE is calibrated also, it is NOT the same as my custom settings for TV or Blu Ray viewing.
And it is very damn feasible to believe that a game running at a lower resolution can have more detail than the game running at a higher resolution. So everyone keep that in mind as we move forward through this generation. It will NOT all be about resolution.
I'm sorry you loyal Sony fanboys have nothing to play and all you can do is sit on here and post garbage all day but I gotta go cause I actually have games to play on my X1. Anyways, Merry XMas everyone!
I love that 9 of 10 Cows site 'crushed blacks' when referring to The One games. Yet they couldn't tell you in their own words what that means and how it affects a game.
You don't think people -- Cows or otherwise -- know what crushed blacks are? Do you think this is some sort of advanced, obscure concept? Everyone who owns an HDTV should know what black and white crush are.
@enviouseyezonme said:
And it is very damn feasible to believe that a game running at a lower resolution can have more detail than the game running at a higher resolution. So everyone keep that in mind as we move forward through this generation. It will NOT all be about resolution.
This forum needs a daily Wall of Shame for posts like these. Just pathetic. Lurching around to mount defenses for the indefensible make you guys look so unreasonably desperate and insecure.
Can't believe I'm still reading comments on the first page praising the XB1's upscaler lol. That's bad news and if you fully accept it you're going to be seeing that scaling trick possibly all gen. You lems need to revolt and ask for answers as it's not acceptable. 720p crushed blacked jaggie messes of games? Come on now, you guys may be knee deep in MS kool-aid but you're better than that at least. Like I'm sure many have said already, there isn't any more detail it's the same detail just over sharpened and black outlined.
I hope for lems sake MS fix this in their next driver updates or at least tweak the upscaler so it doesn't murder the visuals for second wave multiplats. It's amazing when the PS4 and PC look similar and the XB1 looks nothing like the PC version on the triple comparison shots yet claim the XB1 is superior? LOL. Do MS ship a pair of green tinted glasses with every bone as well as kinect?
The Xbox One is simply ramping up the Gama to imporper levels. Makes it look brighter and sharper, but its incorrect. And the black levels are crushed in that video ('crushed' blacks means that darker areas blend together, losing detail between them).
Id actually say that video convinces me the Xbox One is in a worse state than I thought.
Why care about this game. It looks average as hell on consoles. Killzone destroys it in graphics
yes please read this gentlemen's post and move on!! KZ crushes BF4 graphically in pretty much everything but physics which have nothing to do with graphics.
I love that 9 of 10 Cows site 'crushed blacks' when referring to The One games. Yet they couldn't tell you in their own words what that means and how it affects a game.
Goes back to playing MaxTCB and Halo Spartan Assault.
Glitchfest4 is pathetic on all levels.
How is Max:TCoB Kuu2? It got mixed reviews. Said there was some control problems later in the game. I'm definitely getting the Halo Spartan Assault game though. I've been waiting for that one. Peggle 2 is awesome.
I love that 9 of 10 Cows site 'crushed blacks' when referring to The One games. Yet they couldn't tell you in their own words what that means and how it affects a game.
Goes back to playing MaxTCB and Halo Spartan Assault.
Glitchfest4 is pathetic on all levels.
How is Max:TCoB Kuu2? It got mixed reviews. Said there was some control problems later in the game. I'm definitely getting the Halo Spartan Assault game though. I've been waiting for that one. Peggle 2 is awesome.
I am not a platforming specialist but the game controls fine. I have read some of the reviews about the controls and I thought it actually controlled fine and was easy. My take is some of the reviewers are not the sharpest tools in the shed and became frustrated with difficulty. The game is about 6 hours long and is well worth the money. It is a gorgeous game that I think will surprise a lot of people. I am going back through and collecting some of the things I missed. Might have to check out Peggle.
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