Lawdy. New info about PS4 controller. Break-Apart, No thumnstics, Built in move

If you've ever tried using touchscreen emulated analugues, you know this is either false or incredibly stupid.

I will wait for official words from SCEA, although this might be their new move controller if anything.

[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"]Silly rumors and :lol: at the idiots stupid enough to believe them.ShadowriverUB

No...haha...just no....this is BS. Sony isn't releasing KZ4 on the PS4 without the thumbsticks. We will see the same dualshock with improved triggerbuttons and touchpad. Luckily for people who hate the controller, they can probably still choose between a bunch of other controllers...even Xbox look a likes.

It's only a rumor if it shows Sony in a negative light. If this was info on the 720 it would be hard evidence of its future failure. :lol:

Frostbite24

[QUOTE="ShadowriverUB"][QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"]Silly rumors and :lol: at the idiots stupid enough to believe them.AmazonTreeBoa

Except this is more than a "rumor", Sony actually patented a controller exactly as described in the OP. :lol:

Out of every rumor I've heard about either console so far this is by far the worst. You can't play 3D games without thumbsticks.

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The new controller is also rumored to have 4gb of built-in memory allowing the controller to double as a memory unit as well.

ReadingRainbow4

Yeah, I'm going to call BS on this right now.

well that would certify the rumor of sony getting 8gb of ddr5.

But I certainly don't believe this, it's just way too weird.

Indeed. What, Sony's going to remove thumbsticks and replace them with a touchpad? There's just no way.

[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"][QUOTE="ShadowriverUB"] It's not first time of split controller rumor to show upStrongDeadlift

Except this is more than a "rumor", Sony actually patented a controller exactly as described in the OP. :lol:

[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"][QUOTE="ShadowriverUB"] It's not first time of split controller rumor to show upStrongDeadlift

Except this is more than a "rumor", Sony actually patented a controller exactly as described in the OP. :lol:

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[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"][QUOTE="ShadowriverUB"] It's not first time of split controller rumor to show upStrongDeadlift

Except this is more than a "rumor", Sony actually patented a controller exactly as described in the OP. :lol:

It's only a rumor if it shows Sony in a negative light. If this was info on the 720 it would be hard evidence of its future failure. :lol:

Frostbite24

[QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]

credible source?

well damn I expected too much.

StrongDeadlift

http://www.vgrevolution.com/2013/02/rumored-playstation-4-controller-information-with-images-and-details/

The source is just as credible as any of the PS4/720 rumors that have been going around.  

The guy who they got this from apparently works for the new advertizing agency that Sony just hired, after replacing their old guys.  

However, this "splittshock" controller falls in line with patents Sony has made several years ago.  This isnt the first time we've heard about Sony patenting a "break away" controller with move attachments.  

They submitted this in 2008:

http://www.1up.com/news/sony-patents-break-apart-controller

This just got approved in 2012:

http://www.gamingexaminer.com/sony-patent-dualshock-motion-controller/19123/#.UR02EKVZXng

Have to hand it to them.....at least they arent copying Nintendo/MS this time :lol:

How old are you?

[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"]

[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"] And it's probably not the last. Your point would be?AmazonTreeBoa

Except this is more than a "rumor", Sony actually patented a controller exactly as described in the OP. :lol:

this is fake, the share button was debunked a while ago.

Would cost Sony too much to include the Eye with the console. Unless they've made the console inexpensive enough to incorporate it. If this is in box, price tag would be $500+ again. They're already in the black, why dig a deeper hole? Maybe they think a different shovel will dig upwards. :?

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Looks interesting. If it works precisely, I would consider an add on bundle. But as a primary input method? It better be the next real advancement in gaming.

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I know, rumors and speculation, but that's all we got for a good long while.

Would cost Sony too much to include the Eye with the console. Unless they've made the console inexpensive enough to incorporate it. If this is in box, price tag would be $500+ again. They're already in the black, why dig a deeper hole? Maybe they think a different shovel will dig upwards. :?

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Looks interesting. If it works precisely, I would consider an add on bundle. But as a primary input method? It better be the next real advancement in gaming.

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I know, rumors and speculation, but that's all we got for a good long while.

Namgis

if this had any credibility it would be just another method of control, think the Wiiu classicpro controller.

It's possible Sony might have multiple input methods in mind, We saw this already with move games. But it wans't intrusive to the experience at all, no core games required you to use it.

Killzone 3 for example.

The TC:

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k2theswiss

Whoa! That character design looks pretty cool.

Mind me asking you where it's from? :)

The TC:

Speedzilla

I really can't imagine this being all that accurate.  I have a hard time believing that they would make a controller in this day and age with no analog sticks.

Would cost Sony too much to include the Eye with the console. Unless they've made the console inexpensive enough to incorporate it. If this is in box, price tag would be $500+ again. They're already in the black, why dig a deeper hole? Maybe they think a different shovel will dig upwards. :?

Namgis

The same could be applied to the Vita.  They were already approaching the black before the Vita launched.  Yet they released the Vita at a loss.    

They sold, and continue to sell the Vita at a loss per every unit, and Sony themselves said the Vita wont see profit until 2014.  

Hell, the Wii U sells at a loss right now, so you can pretty much guarrantee the PS4 wont sell for a profit for a while.  

well.. I actually kind of like!

My biggest complains about PS3 controllers were the triggers and the left thumbstick layout. With this, if Sony execute it right, PS4 controllers could have, for the first time on consoles, a mouse-like precision for FPS gaming out of the box.

However, I wish if they had only designed the right thumbstick as a touchpad and kept the left thumbstick as is but positioned on top like the one in X360. As I believe, from my experience with iOS racing games, steering cars with touch controls really sucks.

If this is true it will be hard to tell if its a bust or a revolutionary move in gaming control. In terms of actual pads, we went from D pad to Analog and its stayed there for over 16 years. It has to move in some direction. I would prefer analog sticks regardless.

[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"][QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"]

Except this is more than a "rumor", Sony actually patented a controller exactly as described in the OP. :lol:

Pete-B

[QUOTE="Namgis"]

Would cost Sony too much to include the Eye with the console. Unless they've made the console inexpensive enough to incorporate it. If this is in box, price tag would be $500+ again. They're already in the black, why dig a deeper hole? Maybe they think a different shovel will dig upwards. :?

StrongDeadlift

The same could be applied to the Vita. They were already approaching the black before the Vita launched. Yet they released the Vita at a loss.

They sold, and continue to sell the Vita at a loss per every unit, and Sony themselves said the Vita wont see profit until 2014.

Hell, the Wii U sells at a loss right now, so you can pretty much guarrantee the PS4 wont sell for a profit for a while.

Another baseless Lem assumption.

http://community.us.playstation.com/t5/PlayStation-Vita/Report-PlayStation-Vita-Components-Cost-160/td-p/37017996

I lol'd. Have fun with that Sony fanboys.Miketheman83

Looks more fun than more Kinect, which is said to be mandatory....

possible early prototype controller.

credit to slashkice for posting it. ;)

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"]I lol'd. Have fun with that Sony fanboys.NineTailedGoku

Looks more fun than more Kinect, which is said to be mandatory....

Honestly, anything would be more fun than Kinect.

[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"]

[QUOTE="Namgis"]

Would cost Sony too much to include the Eye with the console. Unless they've made the console inexpensive enough to incorporate it. If this is in box, price tag would be $500+ again. They're already in the black, why dig a deeper hole? Maybe they think a different shovel will dig upwards. :?

NineTailedGoku

The same could be applied to the Vita. They were already approaching the black before the Vita launched. Yet they released the Vita at a loss.

They sold, and continue to sell the Vita at a loss per every unit, and Sony themselves said the Vita wont see profit until 2014.

Hell, the Wii U sells at a loss right now, so you can pretty much guarrantee the PS4 wont sell for a profit for a while.

Another baseless Lem assumption.

http://community.us.playstation.com/t5/PlayStation-Vita/Report-PlayStation-Vita-Components-Cost-160/td-p/37017996

:roll:

http://www.examiner.com/article/sony-to-sell-playstation-vita-for-a-loss-profitable-3yrs

In an interview with Reuters Japan, Sonys Kaz Hirai stated that Sony aims to make a profit on the PlayStation Vita in three years. Sony often sells their hardware at a lost, so this isnt anything new for the company as they sold the PlayStation 3 at a loss despite the $600 price tag. Out of the three home-console manufacturers, Nintendo is usually the only company to make a profit on hardware right away due to their conservative nature of building their hardware.

I guess Kaz Hirai isnt official enough for you.....

credit to slashkice for posting it. ;)Pete-B

Who?

Also, I just died and came back to life from that unexpected image leak. :)

[QUOTE="Pete-B"] credit to slashkice for posting it. ;)wakefulness

Who?

Also, I just died and came back to life from that unexpected image leak. :)

[QUOTE="themajormayor"]I don't have a problem with motion controls anymoreHeil68

Spoken like true hypocrites :roll:

[QUOTE="wakefulness"]

[QUOTE="Pete-B"] credit to slashkice for posting it. ;)Pete-B

Who?

Also, I just died and came back to life from that unexpected image leak. :)

:shock:

Interesting.  Skeptical initial reaction, looks pretty bulky.  Then again, seems about right from the rumors.

[QUOTE="NineTailedGoku"]

[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"]

The same could be applied to the Vita. They were already approaching the black before the Vita launched. Yet they released the Vita at a loss.

They sold, and continue to sell the Vita at a loss per every unit, and Sony themselves said the Vita wont see profit until 2014.

Hell, the Wii U sells at a loss right now, so you can pretty much guarrantee the PS4 wont sell for a profit for a while.

StrongDeadlift

Another baseless Lem assumption.

http://community.us.playstation.com/t5/PlayStation-Vita/Report-PlayStation-Vita-Components-Cost-160/td-p/37017996

:roll:

http://www.examiner.com/article/sony-to-sell-playstation-vita-for-a-loss-profitable-3yrs

In an interview with Reuters Japan, Sonys Kaz Hirai stated that Sony aims to make a profit on the PlayStation Vita in three years. Sony often sells their hardware at a lost, so this isnt anything new for the company as they sold the PlayStation 3 at a loss despite the $600 price tag. Out of the three home-console manufacturers, Nintendo is usually the only company to make a profit on hardware right away due to their conservative nature of building their hardware.

I guess Kaz Hirai isnt official enough for you.....

I couldve easily wrote that article. Theres no links in them.......So you're going to ignore hardware cost breakdown for an article written in 2011 with no links?

[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="themajormayor"]I don't have a problem with motion controls anymoreAdobeArtist

Spoken like true hypocrites :roll:

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

[QUOTE="Heil68"] Me either, it seems Sony is being the leader in innovation once again. Thank you Sony. Heil68

Spoken like true hypocrites :roll:

He's a lemming; he's always mad.

[QUOTE="Pete-B"][QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"] That is also old news. You got any new info or should I just expect you to sound like a broken record all day repeating what we already know?AmazonTreeBoa

I didnt reply to you, because you didnt say anything worth replying to.  Just crying about me, and what other people have to say about the PS4. ;)

"on repeat, just the same tired old material", cute.   even though Ive mentioned that twice in this thread, but ok....

[QUOTE="wakefulness"]

[QUOTE="Pete-B"] credit to slashkice for posting it. ;)Pete-B

Who?

Also, I just died and came back to life from that unexpected image leak. :)

Yeah, I saw it in the PS Meeting thread. It showed up from a Destructoid article via like Reddit or something online (no OG source).

Crazy.

You lose again WeakDeadLift

[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"][QUOTE="Pete-B"] He's on repeat. lol Funny enough, when they announce the system and they show the controller with sticks he'll pretend he never said it was " more than a rumor".StrongDeadlift

I didnt reply to you, because you didnt say anything worth replying to.  Just crying about me, and what other people have to say about the PS4. ;)

"on repeat, just the same tired old material", cute.   even though Ive mentioned that twice in this thread, but ok....

oh lord is right, they goin back to ps1 era again , no sticks, wth and it breaks apart so im guessing there will be quality issues again,

if i wanted touch controls only id use an ipad,but as you notice im not even remotely interisted in that so how does sony expect me to want that, sorry this is going to bomb hard,   you shouldnt change whats not broken ,add to it like nintendo did ,

guess sony never learns 

No, Sony will just release Dualshock again, maybe add a Vita touch pad on the back. I doubt they want to drive the price up too much, especially as adding needless stuff that devs won't support will end up like the six axis in the Dualshock 3 barely used.

Atleast the six axis could be ignored, this awful design would be a complete disaster.

If true then.......

 

emgesp

[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"]

[QUOTE="NineTailedGoku"]

Another baseless Lem assumption.

http://community.us.playstation.com/t5/PlayStation-Vita/Report-PlayStation-Vita-Components-Cost-160/td-p/37017996

NineTailedGoku

:roll:

http://www.examiner.com/article/sony-to-sell-playstation-vita-for-a-loss-profitable-3yrs

In an interview with Reuters Japan, Sonys Kaz Hirai stated that Sony aims to make a profit on the PlayStation Vita in three years. Sony often sells their hardware at a lost, so this isnt anything new for the company as they sold the PlayStation 3 at a loss despite the $600 price tag. Out of the three home-console manufacturers, Nintendo is usually the only company to make a profit on hardware right away due to their conservative nature of building their hardware.

I guess Kaz Hirai isnt official enough for you.....

I couldve easily wrote that article. Theres no links in them.......So you're going to ignore hardware cost breakdown for an article written in 2011 with no links?

You are an idiot. :|

There is a link in the article and it came from Kaz Hirai's mouth.  

Also, the bill of materials is not the only factor that goes into the manufacturing cost of a console.  

Also, the craftmanship in both the controller and dev kit (in that leak) are looking like that is a legit leak.

The housing and the moniter are kind of a give away. Kudos for sharing that leak here, Pete-B! TC can't ignore this, aye? :)

I don't have a problem with motion controls anymorethemajormayor

Imagine that. Sony puts out a motion controller and all of the sudden, Cows are okay with motion controls.