Kojima had a hidden message behind the latest MGS4 trailer*** Funny Stuff LOL

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#1 aka_aj03
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I know it very old... and sorry if you guys already read this.

"In the latest 1up yours podcast Shane briefly mentions that he believes Kojima had a hidden message behind the latest MGS4 trailer. He proclaims that Kojima is secretly inserting a commentary about the console wars and Metal Gear Solid 4's involvement.... that kojima used the pre-raiden part of the trailer as a giant metaphor.

Hmmm why else would the trailer be so odd?

well here's the deal, I attempted to transcribe the dialog to reveal a secondary meaning to each line.

We have three characters in the trailer, Cambell, Snake, Meryl and Liquid. Cambell and Meryl are representative of sony, Snake is Kojima, and Liquid is Microsoft."



Lets examine the dialog, the transcription is in bold

CAMBELL (sony): "This order isn't a mission from Washington"= Redman Washington? Microsoft?

SNAKE (kojima): "Why me"= why Kojima and his game?

CAMBELL (sony): "because of the military might of the pmc's, and the effect they have on the economy"= because Microsoft's 360fanbase is getting bigger, and their effecting PS3 sales

CAMBELL (sony): "war is to the 21st century what oil was to the 20th... the pillar that supports the global economy"= the ps3 is to this generation what the ps2 was to the last generation... the pillar that supports Sony.

CAMBELL (sony):"the global community is concerned... but their all too afraid of the war economy collapsing to do anything about it" =Sony's fanbase is concerned about the ps3, but their afraid to do anything about it; their afraid to spend $500-$600 on a console that may fail

SNAKE (kojima): "sounds pretty self serving to me"= ps3 fans can make the ps3 a success if they buy a ps3, if not, it will fail.

CAMBELL (sony): "but I, for one, don't intend to simply stand by and watch it happen. This isn't justice"= Sony is not going to let the ps3 loose; they worked too hard to let it die.

CAMBELL (sony): "it's a covert operation, a hired hit" = MGS4 is a hired hit on Microsoft

CAMBELL (sony): "will you do this for me? Will you terminate liquid?"= will you defeat Microsoft?

LIQUID (Microsoft): "activated it"- kojima production logo comes on screen

MERYL (sony): "Liquids goal is to seize control of the SOP" = Microsoft's goal is to seize control of the market

MERYL (sony):" to do that, he needs to analyze the nanomachines' structure and find out how they communicate with one another. The nanomachines' currently in use by military's and PMC's are third generation, but their design is derived of that of first generation" =Microsoft must analyze the PS3 and its fanbase, and see how they are cohesive. Microsoft must attract playstation owners to the 360 buy obtaining all of sony's exclusives (JRPG's on 360 anyone?). The ps3 is third generation but the fan base is derived from first generation PS1 days, so MS must persuade them.

SNAKE (kojima): "first generation?"


MERYL (sony): "nine years ago, at shadow moses. I injected it into your body (nanomachines')" = nine years ago MGS1 was released on PS1 and playstation was injected into Snakes DNA, MGS became a playstation hallmark.

~then all the military and PMC's start freaking out, fighting each other, crapping their pants, and crying= all the gamers doing the same.

SNAKE (kojima): "so they've finally achieved real time battle control"= Microsoft finally getting market share

CAMBELL (sony): "he's taken control of this immense army, and now he's prepared to unleash an insurrection" = Microsoft is preparing the halo army? And their holiday insurrection

SNAKE (kojima): "you want liquid dead?" = MS dead

CAMBELL (sony): "he must be stopped before it's too late"

MERYL (sony): "listen to me snake. We're ready to strike liquid at any time."

SNAKE (kojima): "you're planning to take him by force? That's crazy. Look things aren't that simple" = Konami wants the game to sell, and on the 360 they will make a lot of money...

MERYL (sony): "your cause is our cause now" =Kojima's cause is sony's now.

MERYL (sony): "you don't have to do this"

SNAKE (kojima): "I'm no hero, never was... Just an old killer...hired to do some wet work"

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#2 redskins2156
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If mgs4 ever made it on the 360, it would need 4-5 discs lol. So I doubt it will ever happen.
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#3 mingo123
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lol that is sweet
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#4 deactivated-598fc45371265
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LOL. :P Though it may or may not have been intentional.
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#5 elbow2k
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LOL It looks like you've been putting too much thought into this.

I've done my bit I guess, got a PS3 and preordered MGS4!

Here's hoping it's everything the previous version where and more!

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#6 mingo123
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If mgs4 ever made it on the 360, it would need 4-5 discs lol. So I doubt it will ever happen.redskins2156

look at the textures in mgs4, the game should be able to fit on a CD if it didnt have 30+ hour cutscenes...but even with all the cutscenes....compressed mgs4 can easily fit on 360....espcially when there are bigger and better looking games on 360 (Mass Effect)

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#7 The_SandRock
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Over analyzing FTL
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#8 Hoobinator
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There are plenty of hidden messages and subliminal advertising in society. This isn't part of it. There are some far fetched assumptions in the article.
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#9 rimnet00
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Overanalyzed to the max.
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#10 CelineDion
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This is all a bit of a stretch for moi.

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#11 Always-Honest
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If mgs4 ever made it on the 360, it would need 4-5 discs lol. So I doubt it will ever happen.redskins2156

i think they'd just compress the sound.. done..

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#12 Son_of_Some
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A BIT far-fetched.ss
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#13 ReverseCycology
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I think you misinterpreted it. I think Kojima was trying to say that it will go to the 360 later on. Jump in.

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#14 the-obiwan
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I think you misinterpreted it. I think Kojima was trying to say that it will go to the 360 later on. Jump in.

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lol jump in x)

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#15 3picuri3
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oh wow. mgs4 fans have wayyyyyy too much time on their hands. this is the most pathetic overread in to any video game i have ever ever ever seen, lmao.

just. wow.

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#16 white_sox
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:lol: that's great.
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#17 StringGuard
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Wow. What fanboys can convince themselves as real. Pretty sad really.
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#18 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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The best conspiracy theorie I read in a while :lol:
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#20 heretrix
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That's pretty damn sad.

Fan fiction FTL.

Me sad.

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#21 Mordred19
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MGS4 is not "Dark Side of the Rainbow"

that's just reading way too far into it.

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#22 blues3531
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bit of a stretch
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#23 NAPK1NS
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Over analyzing FTLThe_SandRock
Metal Gear calls for it. :wink:
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#24 g-rash
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OMG SO FUNNY DUDE LOLOLOL kojima needs to get over himself.
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#25 frankeyser
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In other crazy overthought conspiracy theroies, nintedo packs wii motes with heroin so you have to buy there products...
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#26 67gt500
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I think Sigmund Freud said it best a long time ago when he stated that "...sometimes a cigar is... just a cigar..."
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#27 Funkyhamster
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Okay, I think you (or whoever made this) took this way too far... still funny stuff though.
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#28 chikahiro94
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I think Sigmund Freud said it best a long time ago when he stated that "...sometimes a cigar is... just a cigar..."67gt500

^_^ nice

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#29 deactivated-57af49c27f4e8
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whoever goes through and picks a trailer apart like this doesn't have enough games on their system to play so they do this instead.
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#30 deactivated-5dd711115e664
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Sound like they are really stretching.
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#31 deactivated-58319077a6477
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Naomi is the one who injected Snake with Fox Die nine years ago in Shadow Mosses.

Naomi said to do that, he needs to analyze the nanomachines' structure and find out how they communicate with one another. The nanomachines' currently in use by military's and PMC's are third generation, but their design is derived of that of first generation.

And finally Naomi also said Liquids goal is to seize control of the SOP.

if you watched the trailers that opens with Naomi holding a camera asking(where someone is trying to break in the room) for Snakes help you hear here say all that, so 1UP got all that wrong.

The voices could feel similar but most of the thing I highlited from you shows it was talked about someone who is into science which all lead to Naomi.

Meryl did mention about SOP but only said how it makes her team catch other senses nothing from the said above that I copied from you.

I really don't care if it come out on the 360 or stay only on the PS3, I just want to play the game, but I guess he wrote that before the trailer of Naomi asking for help, He seems to be put a lot of thought into it.

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#32 Michael85
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That's gotta be the dumbest thing I've ever read.
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#33 Wintry_Flutist
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It actually makes more sense as a metaphor. :| Seriously, I never got why they mentioned things such as "third generation blablabla", it's confusing, senseless, doesn't explain anything. But now... Moreover, the "nine years ago", it coincides with MGS1 release, but thing is, MGS1 is set at 2005, therefore MGS4 should be set in 2014. But, unless I missed something, MGS4 is always mentioned as being set in 20XX. If there's no "official" time setting, then the "nine years ago" only applies for real life.
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#34 fanboy999
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I'm pretty sure that hidden message has something to do with gay monkeys but I could be wrong. That Kojima guy is pretty weird.
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#36 u8muhrice
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haha seriously.. im excited for MGS, but cmon.. the person who is responsible for analyzing this BS is the reason why conspiracy theories come about.

People think too much into little situations

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#37 kentaro22
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Well, at least the TC is a MGS fan. Comes up with crazy conspiracy theory, just like MGS!
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#39 aka_aj03
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I'm bumping this :P
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#40 thrones
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LOL. :P Though it may or may not have been intentional.Storm_Marine

Lol, the conspiracy continues

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#41 WilliamRLBaker
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Overanalyzed to the max. rimnet00

agreed....lol why inject fanboy wars into a game? its just a game ill rent it when it comes out. ill play it then move on.