Killzone SF is better than Killzone 3.

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#1 Posted by Jakandsigz (4512 posts) -

Anybody who played think the same? I mean KZ3 was literally COD, KIllzone SF is more like KZ2 but with better controls, and the questionable owl. Sure, not the best KZ (KZ2) or best FPS but man, I do not understand why the critics think Killzone 3 was better. Killzone 3 had no identity.

#2 Posted by mems_1224 (46457 posts) -

Thats like saying eating puke is better than eating shit. Either way, why would you do that?

#3 Posted by bigblunt537 (6821 posts) -

Yeah I completely agree. I'm really enjoying it and IMO it's the best Killzone so far. It has a much better story and although they changed the style of the game drastically I think it's more of an improvement for the series and a step in the right direction. Definitely should be an 8-9 IMO, but regardless a review is just an opinion and I understand.

#4 Posted by Couth_ (10002 posts) -

I was under the impression that the general consensus was KZSF KZ2>>>>>>KZ3>>>>>>>>>the rest

#5 Posted by Jakandsigz (4512 posts) -

Thats like saying eating puke is better than eating shit. Either way, why would you do that?

WTF else am I going to play on my PS4? NBA Live?

#6 Posted by _Matt_ (8863 posts) -

I keep hearing that SF is as good as KZ2. Killzone 2 was awesome, so I'm hyped for Shadow Fall.

#7 Posted by Heil68 (43373 posts) -

SF is great. Looking forward to coop.

#8 Edited by Newhopes (4498 posts) -

Great one garbage game is better that another, hip hip hooray.

#9 Posted by lamprey263 (23087 posts) -

I didn't like KZ2 or KZ3 when they came out, though they grew on me with time; wonder if Shadow Fall will have that kind of appeal.

#10 Posted by I_can_haz (6551 posts) -

@Heil68 said:

SF is great. Looking forward to coop.

Same here.

Critics saying KZ3 was better are full of shit.

#11 Posted by HavocV3 (7934 posts) -

Thats like saying eating puke is better than eating shit. Either way, why would you do that?

^

#12 Posted by Mr_Ditters (1905 posts) -

You are nuts. KZ SF is a COD clone. Plain and simple. No where near the same league as KZ2. KZ3's multiplayer was leagues ahead of this turd. People need to stop kidding themselves about that game just because you desperately want it to be good. All of the guns are the same (boring). Virtually no recoil (like COD). They are airsoft guns.

No atmosphere. No character. Terrible maps. Gone are the cool voices. Cool sound effects. Cool maps. Its just a cookie cutter COD clone with elements of Crysis thrown in. Nothing at all like the gritty, dark, retro analogue, future WWII warezone that was the Killzone series.

I couldn't be more disappointed with this game. I would have rather seen a port of KZ2.

#13 Posted by Jakandsigz (4512 posts) -

You are nuts. KZ SF is a COD clone. Plain and simple. No where near the same league as KZ2. KZ3's multiplayer was leagues ahead of this turd. People need to stop kidding themselves about that game just because you desperately want it to be good. All of the guns are the same (boring). Virtually no recoil (like COD). They are airsoft guns.

No atmosphere. No character. Terrible maps. Gone are the cool voices. Cool sound effects. Cool maps. Its just a cookie cutter COD clone with elements of Crysis thrown in. Nothing at all like the gritty, dark, retro analogue, future WWII warezone that was the Killzone series.

I couldn't be more disappointed with this game. I would have rather seen a port of KZ2.

Your whole second paragraph was not iN 3, this time they had a SP mode that was playable with a plot that actually attempted to make sense. KZ3 was as bland as you can get. They are basically the same but SF has a better single player and better balance and is not 100% COD. Like 80%.

#14 Posted by locopatho (20175 posts) -

Is Killzone 2 seriously the best one? I played it and thought single player was bad and multi only alright... I was assured 3 was much better?

#15 Posted by R3FURBISHED (10296 posts) -

@Jakandsigz: Killzone 3 wasn't very good - so I would believe it

#16 Posted by Jakandsigz (4512 posts) -

Is Killzone 2 seriously the best one? I played it and thought single player was bad and multi only alright... I was assured 3 was much better?

Yeah that is the one that is the best. Killzone was never the...BEst FPS franchise.

#17 Posted by PSdual_wielder (10646 posts) -

I thought its universally agreed upon that kz3 was better than 2.

#18 Posted by Jakandsigz (4512 posts) -

I thought its universally agreed upon that kz3 was better than 2.

Where?

#19 Posted by Jankarcop (8976 posts) -

yes 6 hour long auto-aim shooters i love consoles

#20 Posted by PSdual_wielder (10646 posts) -

@PSdual_wielder said:

I thought its universally agreed upon that kz3 was better than 2.

Where?

Oh I don't know, maybe it's just me. There were some harsh criticisms back in the day that 2 consisted of too much corridor shooting. 3 made the levels more open and I thought the campaign was pretty good.

#21 Posted by Jakandsigz (4512 posts) -

@Jakandsigz said:

@PSdual_wielder said:

I thought its universally agreed upon that kz3 was better than 2.

Where?

Oh I don't know, maybe it's just me. There were some harsh criticisms back in the day that 2 consisted of too much corridor shooting. 3 made the levels more open and I thought the campaign was pretty good.

No you're right, but you need to look at the Killzone 3 complaints The only thing 3 has over 2 is controls..

#22 Edited by Mr_Ditters (1905 posts) -

@PSdual_wielder said:

@Jakandsigz said:

@PSdual_wielder said:

I thought its universally agreed upon that kz3 was better than 2.

Where?

Oh I don't know, maybe it's just me. There were some harsh criticisms back in the day that 2 consisted of too much corridor shooting. 3 made the levels more open and I thought the campaign was pretty good.

It was the opposite. 2 had more wide open longer maps. Like some of the desert maps where you could do long range sniping. No such maps exist in KZ SF. Its all close quarters. Here are some examples (awesome maps, also notice the level of detail which is lacking in KZ SF) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liepMSgGQW8

Even the gun model has more detail than those in KZ SF, where everything looks brand new and shiny.

Here is another one: beach head (notice the level of detail and the atmosphere) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3bwHYQZljg

#23 Posted by locopatho (20175 posts) -

yes 6 hour long auto-aim shooters i love consoles

It's more than 6 hours long, there is no auto aim, and you don't love consoles.

#24 Posted by Chrome- (1660 posts) -

Killzone lol Sony should just scrap this terrible franchise, Guerilla needs to try a different genre FPS just isn't their thing.

#25 Posted by seanmcloughlin (38212 posts) -

Cool?

#26 Posted by Jakandsigz (4512 posts) -

@Chrome- said:

Killzone lol Sony should just scrap this terrible franchise, Guerilla needs to try a different genre FPS just isn't their thing.

Killzone is better than all their other 8 FPS attempts unless you want HAZE, Resistance, MAG, or that other game I keep forgetting the name of because it's so bad.

#27 Edited by good_sk8er7 (4320 posts) -

I liked Shadow Fall more than 2 or 3.

But I've loved all of them besides the first one.

#28 Posted by Jankarcop (8976 posts) -

@Jankarcop said:

yes 6 hour long auto-aim shooters i love consoles

It's more than 6 hours long, there is no auto aim, and you don't love consoles.

oh i mean magnetic aim and huge hitboxes.

my bad.

#30 Posted by Szminsky (1433 posts) -

I wish KZ SF had the KZ2 sniper rifle. Most satisfying gun to use in any FPS. The sight was brilliant.

#31 Edited by Mr_Ditters (1905 posts) -

@Szminsky said:

I wish KZ SF had the KZ2 sniper rifle. Most satisfying gun to use in any FPS. The sight was brilliant.

Exactly. The new sniper rifles are cartoony and lame. Well all of the guns in KZ were better. Aside from the LSR 44 all of the new guns are boring.

#32 Posted by locopatho (20175 posts) -

@locopatho said:

@Jankarcop said:

yes 6 hour long auto-aim shooters i love consoles

It's more than 6 hours long, there is no auto aim, and you don't love consoles.

oh i mean magnetic aim and huge hitboxes.

my bad.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-11-13-killzone-shadow-fall-review

"But it's the sticks that are the revelation. The 'dead zone' at their centre, which gave aiming that slightly halting stickiness on PS3, is all but eradicated, and the sticks handle with smooth, progressive precision and extremely low latency. So much so, in fact, that Guerrilla has removed any form of aim assist from the game, and you won't notice - other than to remark that it feels like a barrier between you and the game has been lifted."

Try not being a complete fucktard, k?

#33 Edited by Jankarcop (8976 posts) -

magnetic aim =/= aim assist. It controls the bullets, not your cursor. Please stop acting like aiming in KZ:SF is some kind of ephiphany for console shooters. Its the same old shit.

Please stop thinking it aims like PC FPS. You are embarrassing your fellow plebian peasant console faction.

If it makes you happy i'll call it "kiddy-non-aim 6 hour long movie shooter that can't score AA"

#34 Edited by ohgeez (910 posts) -

@Jakandsigz: Killzone is an interesting beast. Its always been a series with very solid mechanics and robust multiplayer. I feel that the game has definitely taken criticisms that other shooters don't. I mean, most of the reviews talked almost exclusively about the crappy story. Meanwhile, battlefield series has quite possibly some of the worst campaigns of the entire last gen. COD, on the other hand, has been rehashed over and over and yet, killzone is the series that gets these criticisms.

For some reason I can't unbold that sentence.

#35 Posted by KillzoneSnake (1689 posts) -

KZ3 was the turd of the series. KZSF is clearly a better game... reviews really make no sense.