Kevin VanOrd vs Jeff Gerstmann

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Poll: Kevin VanOrd vs Jeff Gerstmann (84 votes)

Kevin VanOrd 33%
Jeff Gerstman 67%

Which Gamespot lead writer gets your vote in a contest between the two.

The Basics

Jeff Gerstmann's been at GS since the beginning, and after surviving the great controversy of giving Zelda: Twilight Princess an 8.8/10, he got terminated after giving an unflattering review of Kane and Lynch Dead Men. After, he founded the website GiantBomb. He is arguably THE face of video game journalism.

Then, there's Kevin VanOrd, who started off in GS, as the new guy, but after the original Gamespot crew left, he worked his way up the ranks and restored the reputation of the website. Today, he is still their chief editor and has done a fine job.

My Opinion

I wholeheartedly concede that Kevin is a much better writer, and when it came to the technical aspect of writing reviews, Gerstmann was average at best. Jeff was more like a video game fan whereas Kevin was moreso the journalist. Jeff often analyzed the mechanics of gameplay and wrote the reviews in context of recommending it to a friend. Kevin often writes his reviews as social commentary weighing the game's artistic merits, like an editorial on a newspaper.

So yeah, Kevin was the better reviewer, but Jeff simply represented everything I liked the most about Gamespot. Particularly, the era I have fond memories with. The company (Alex, Ryan, Brad, and friends) he kept. His casual style, or his unabashed honesty. Kevin feels like a highly esteemed (though still very humble) professional writer, but Jeff felt like a friend.

So, I'll go with Jeff on this one.

#1 Posted by PannicAtack (20862 posts) -

They have different tastes. Kevin VanOrd is very big into RPGs, story-driven games, and artsy experiences. He's my favorite reviewer currently on the site.

#2 Posted by mems_1224 (45818 posts) -

Jeff is way more awesome/funny but his taste in games is terribad. VanOrd is one of the few GS writers that doesnt completely suck.

#3 Posted by mrintro (1354 posts) -

You're welcome

#4 Posted by John_Matherson (2031 posts) -

McShea Vs. Sessler. There's a topic.

#5 Posted by PrincessGomez92 (3246 posts) -

Kevin, I suppose. I prefer Chris Watters over them both though.

#6 Edited by Nengo_Flow (9297 posts) -

honestly, i never really seen/read any of Jeff reviews. Not even when he worked here at GS. I never went to Giant Bomb, so I dont know what they do over there, dont care to find out.

VanOrd is a really good and honest reviewer, always has been. Probably the only good reviewer left in GS, too bad they barely use him for reviews.

#7 Posted by mems_1224 (45818 posts) -

McShea Vs. Sessler. There's a topic.

they both suck

/topic

#8 Posted by Arach666 (23015 posts) -

Jeff is funnier and much better than Kevin in video format,on the other hand Kevin is far superior when it comes to the writting.

#9 Posted by inb4uall (5151 posts) -

Justin Calvert is better then both of them.

#10 Posted by John_Matherson (2031 posts) -
#11 Posted by waltefmoney (18030 posts) -

Jeff Gerstmann. Dude is hilarious.

#12 Posted by Liquid_ (2254 posts) -

idk who jeff is, but anyone is better than Kevin VanOrd who doesn't know how to review games in the slightest

#13 Edited by Cobra_nVidia (1383 posts) -

Jeff by a mile.

#14 Edited by mems_1224 (45818 posts) -
#15 Posted by millerlight89 (18338 posts) -

That's like comparing Pewdiepie to Jacksepticeye. Neither one are worth a damn.

#16 Posted by jg4xchamp (46694 posts) -

Kevin is a superior writer(I would even bet Jeff wouldn't disagree with that), both kind of easy as far as critics, but Jeff is more entertaining on a mic, quick look, during a podcast, etc. Regardless I don't mind reading a Van Ord write up as he tends to come off genuine. Don't ever really agree with him, but by the low ass bar set by other game critics, he's pretty chill. Would rather listen to Gertsmann talk games though, that shit isn't even close.

#17 Posted by Seabas989 (9965 posts) -

Neither really although Jeff is funnier.

#18 Edited by maddogmark25 (3617 posts) -

Jeff is better when on video reviews, Kevin is better at the written reviews. I personally prefer Jeff's style, but that's just me. They're both better than most.

#19 Posted by cain006 (8625 posts) -

McShea Vs. Sessler. There's a topic.

I actually like Sessler. He gives you his opinion straight up. You don't get that feeling from some reviewers.

#20 Posted by GoldenElementXL (2612 posts) -

Jeff by a mile. If you don't know who he is get off of the Internet. In fact anybody that checks this site before giant bomb is doing it wrong. Quick looks > Gamespot reviews.

#21 Posted by TF626 (592 posts) -

My vote is for Jeff Gerstmann, GameSpot was so awesome, I miss those days. Greg Kasavin was probably my favorite though.

#22 Posted by drekula2 (1880 posts) -

@TF626 said:

My vote is for Jeff Gerstmann, GameSpot was so awesome, I miss those days. Greg Kasavin was probably my favorite though.

yeah. greg was kevin's main influence

#23 Edited by CleanPlayer (9766 posts) -

I like both, but I gotta go with Gerstmann. His style entertains the hell out of me

#24 Edited by PannicAtack (20862 posts) -

Why isn't Alex Navarro getting any love?

#25 Posted by Maddie_Larkin (6184 posts) -

I perfer Kevin, Jeff would often say funny Things but rarely have alot of good points as to why he liked or disliked a game. And he had a focus on one area of gaming and ignored all other venues of games (logical he was brought in to review console games originaly), which he still often feels like doing. That is ok if you know what you are going into, but if you are to explain about any given game on any given platform I prefer Kevin.

When that is said, Jeff is the better showman, where as Kevin lacks behind his own Words.

All in all they are likely some of the better in the industry, and Jeff certainly is the more influential.

I would pick Brad over Jeff I think, And ofcourse Kasavin pretty much stands as THE best reviewer EVER.

I tend to find it odd that we don't have alot of great reviewers anymore :\ we used to have alot.

#26 Posted by stuff238 (610 posts) -

I don't like them. They don't know how to review games, Not saying they are bad writers, it's just I tend to not agree with either guys review of video games.

I have very different tastes then either of those 2 guys so I might still read a review of theirs, but I tend to take them all with a grain of salt because I already know they hate the games I like, and overrate the games I hate.

If it was up to me I would have gave Zelda TP an 8/10.

#27 Posted by adders99 (2564 posts) -

@Liquid_ said:

idk who jeff is, but anyone is better than Kevin VanOrd who doesn't know how to review games in the slightest

lol what!!!??? Kevin is one of the best guys on the site! him and the whole European crew...

#28 Posted by sukraj (21660 posts) -

Jeff

#29 Edited by _Matt_ (8797 posts) -

Kevin VanOrd has a taste in games similar to mine, in that usually his reviews will match up with mine perfectly, so my vote goes to him.

#30 Posted by AgentA-Mi6 (16242 posts) -

Kevin Vanord is by far the greatest asset GS has right now, the greatest bulwark of journalistic credibility this site has had in years. I'm not saying this because i intend to lick his boots, there is nothing for me to attain there, thats just how i feel about it. I've been dissapointed by the rating and review system many times, but more often than not i've ended up agreeing with Van0rds opinions and editorials.

So, Kevin all the way.

#31 Edited by YearoftheSnake5 (6884 posts) -

Kevin VanOrd is the best reviewer on Gamespot since Greg Kasavin. Jeff is certainly a good critic, but I feel Kevin does a better job.

#32 Posted by hippiesanta (9735 posts) -

McShea Vs. Sessler. There's a topic.

now that's what we are looking for ....

however ........ gertsman can kiss vanord

#33 Edited by way2funny (4569 posts) -

I prefer lord and savior Greg Kasavin. Back when getting above a 7 meant the game was generally worth getting.

#34 Posted by Animal-Mother (26231 posts) -

Kevin is a superior writer(I would even bet Jeff wouldn't disagree with that), both kind of easy as far as critics, but Jeff is more entertaining on a mic, quick look, during a podcast, etc. Regardless I don't mind reading a Van Ord write up as he tends to come off genuine. Don't ever really agree with him, but by the low ass bar set by other game critics, he's pretty chill. Would rather listen to Gertsmann talk games though, that shit isn't even close.

Not close at all.... Dat Bombcast.

#35 Posted by Ratchet_Fan8 (5537 posts) -

Kevin is the only decent reviewer left in this website. Auch,Major props for actually losing weight :) (unlike good ol Jeff, 20 years in games industry,20 years being a BigMac. He is still very awesome,since body physique doesnt decide who is better at writing)


But i voted for Jeff,he is the pinnacle of reviewing games.When someone says 'VG reviewer' , i instantly think of JG.He is personality and very influential too. It doesnt take much thought that the site went down after he left GS. I would love to be a giantbomber,but idk,despite having all the best faces (ShoeMaker,Alex Pablo Navvaro,etc) i cant get used to that site.Not to mention the 5* is just too crippling as a review system.

#36 Posted by freedomfreak (38291 posts) -

Kevin is a superior writer(I would even bet Jeff wouldn't disagree with that), both kind of easy as far as critics, but Jeff is more entertaining on a mic, quick look, during a podcast, etc. Regardless I don't mind reading a Van Ord write up as he tends to come off genuine. Don't ever really agree with him, but by the low ass bar set by other game critics, he's pretty chill. Would rather listen to Gertsmann talk games though, that shit isn't even close.

Yeah, this sounds fair.

#37 Posted by SambaLele (4908 posts) -

Jeff.

Kevin is better at writing reviews, but that's not everything that counts. The greatest quality any journalist can have is integrity. It's something that affects even the professional's working environment.

I think Kevin is professional and impartial, but I can't measure to what extent. But with Jeff I easily can, especially since he refused to change his K&L review back in 2007.

That episode was so big at the time that it's like GS suffered a major reform after that. And the site is now a lot less accountable for it's work than before.

I guess that's enough to vote for Jeff. That's significance that goes beyond his work.

#38 Posted by NoirLamia777 (2101 posts) -

I like them both but have pretty much always agreed with Kevin, plus he's one of the biggest Dark Souls fans so yea haha.

#40 Posted by seanmcloughlin (38168 posts) -

@Arach666 said:

Jeff is funnier and much better than Kevin in video format,on the other hand Kevin is far superior when it comes to the writting.

This. I much prefer to watch Jeff but read Kevin

#41 Edited by Netherscourge (16328 posts) -

Neither is better or worst. They have their own opinions and they don't represent anyone but themselves.

I think they both write good reviews and are very honest and have very legitimate objective and subjective points of view.

#42 Posted by Lucianu (9288 posts) -

They're both good, but Greg Kasavin is king. The reviews written by him and in video format where awesome.

Greg was Gamespot, really.

#43 Posted by Lucianu (9288 posts) -

Kevin Vanord is by far the greatest asset GS has right now, the greatest bulwark of journalistic credibility this site has had in years.

That's true, and i hope they realize the importance of VanOrd. Besides Greg, VanOrd is the best reviewer this site has ever had. If he ever decides to leave as well, the amount of shit that will hit the fan will engulf this site.

#44 Posted by glez13 (8501 posts) -

Jeff's tastes are terribad from my perspective, so I choose Kevin. My all time favorite is probably Greg Kasavin.

#45 Edited by Jankarcop (8827 posts) -

greg k

#46 Posted by PannicAtack (20862 posts) -

@Lucianu said:

They're both good, but Greg Kasavin is king. The reviews written by him and in video format where awesome.

Greg was Gamespot, really.

Yeah, Greg was great.

But I'm not too fussed he's gone, seeing as he now works in the industry and wrote Bastion. That was some good stuff.

#47 Posted by seanmcloughlin (38168 posts) -

@Lucianu said:
@AgentA-Mi6 said:

Kevin Vanord is by far the greatest asset GS has right now, the greatest bulwark of journalistic credibility this site has had in years.

That's true, and i hope they realize the importance of VanOrd. Besides Greg, VanOrd is the best reviewer this site has ever had. If he ever decides to leave as well, the amount of shit that will hit the fan will engulf this site.

Kevin doesn't bring in the traffic though. McShea and Petit do because of their radical scores and reasoning behind some reviews.

Kevin is too honest and transparent. He even did live streams of games like Guild Wars 2 and MOH Warfighter so you could hear his thoughts as he played

#48 Edited by Heil68 (42716 posts) -

Jeff is much more entertaining.

#49 Posted by MrYaotubo (2522 posts) -

Kevin Vanord is by far the greatest asset GS has right now, the greatest bulwark of journalistic credibility this site has had in years. I'm not saying this because i intend to lick his boots, there is nothing for me to attain there, thats just how i feel about it. I've been dissapointed by the rating and review system many times, but more often than not i've ended up agreeing with Van0rds opinions and editorials.

So, Kevin all the way.

I´d say that right now,gamespot´s biggest asset is Danny O'Dwyer.

#50 Posted by jsmoke03 (12510 posts) -

McShea Vs. Sessler. There's a topic.

sessler from g4 was garbage....rev 3 sessler is a way better reviewer.

as far as gerstman vs. van ord....i would go with greg kasavin