Iwata. The WiiU is not in good shape.

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#1 Edited by super600 (30134 posts) -
#2 Edited by freedomfreak (38717 posts) -

He's not wrong. Very observant of him.

#3 Edited by Locutus_Picard (3978 posts) -

If the whole goddamn console is based on a tablet fad, with an online network structure unacceptable by 2006 standards, then yes...you fucked up. I wonder what kind of senile vegetables run the idea-board. They being out of touch is not even funny anymore. It's like you have to buy an ugly tumor to enjoy Mario Kart 9.

#4 Posted by Joedgabe (5092 posts) -

It's hard to go back after already making it dropping the whole console would back-stab it's fans and those that have supported it already. Though going for a gimmick was never a good idea, not realizing they just got lucky last generation is pretty damn ignorant to be quite honest. The Wii's selling point, the controllers played horribly for most of the games. ( that twilight princess x_x )

#5 Posted by CWEBB04z (4555 posts) -

At least he's honest.

#6 Posted by good_sk8er7 (4320 posts) -

I hope they can make it work. I love the gamepad. Would hate not being able to play more games on it.

#7 Edited by Heil68 (43244 posts) -

No shit..haha

#8 Posted by musicalmac (22818 posts) -

That's an amusing admission. That's like the pope releasing a statement that he has realized he is Roman Catholic. As if that's news.

#9 Posted by CrownKingArthur (4120 posts) -
@CWEBB04z said:

At least he's honest.

yeah. that's admirable.

can't be easy to stand up and deliver news like this. especially when the news is a result of your work outputs.

#10 Posted by no-scope-AK47 (2681 posts) -

So basically nobody at Nintendo is going to take responsibility for this clusterfuck. Not only that but all the idiots are still on the payroll. Must be nice to work for Nintendo and just do dumb shit and still keep your job.

#11 Edited by DocSanchez (1512 posts) -

Please understand. Iwata is needed right now because only a man who can commit such a phenomenal balls up can truly understand one.

#12 Posted by super600 (30134 posts) -

@Joedgabe said:

It's hard to go back after already making it dropping the whole console would back-stab it's fans and those that have supported it already. Though going for a gimmick was never a good idea, not realizing they just got lucky last generation is pretty damn ignorant to be quite honest. The Wii's selling point, the controllers played horribly for most of the games. ( that twilight princess x_x )

They probably have to go back to something that is as simple as the Wii, but takes some ideas from their competitiors, but they can not copy everything their competitors do. They probably have some things planned to fix the current market situation with the WiiU before they drop the console.

#13 Posted by blue_hazy_basic (27326 posts) -

Honestly the best thing they could do is admit defeat and relaunch a console more powerful than the PS4/XB1, that would set a cat amongst the pigeons in the console war lol

#14 Posted by Desmonic (13180 posts) -

I think this is one of those situations that fully warrants a "no sh!t!" response.

#15 Edited by PurpleMan5000 (6857 posts) -

So basically nobody at Nintendo is going to take responsibility for this clusterfuck. Not only that but all the idiots are still on the payroll. Must be nice to work for Nintendo and just do dumb shit and still keep your job.

Well, the executives are cutting their pay by 30-50%, so that's something.

#16 Posted by Joedgabe (5092 posts) -

@super600: yea, i'm pretty sure dropping the console it's still far off.

#17 Posted by DocSanchez (1512 posts) -

I wonder how the sheep will spin this.

"it's great that the wii has poor sales and is failing massively. I always wanted that. Nobody buys a Nintendo console for it to be a success. This is more exclusive"

#18 Posted by bobbetybob (19125 posts) -

So basically nobody at Nintendo is going to take responsibility for this clusterfuck. Not only that but all the idiots are still on the payroll. Must be nice to work for Nintendo and just do dumb shit and still keep your job.

Because that's how you foster a creative work environment right, fire people as soon as an idea does badly.

#19 Posted by super600 (30134 posts) -

Honestly the best thing they could do is admit defeat and relaunch a console more powerful than the PS4/XB1, that would set a cat amongst the pigeons in the console war lol

I don't think releasing a console that is as strong as those consoles will fix nintendo's problems. Nintendo has to make a console that is simple and easy to understand like the Wii and is fun, but they have to look at some of the current or future market trends while doing this. They also have to expand their company.

#20 Posted by no-scope-AK47 (2681 posts) -

@no-scope-AK47 said:

So basically nobody at Nintendo is going to take responsibility for this clusterfuck. Not only that but all the idiots are still on the payroll. Must be nice to work for Nintendo and just do dumb shit and still keep your job.

Well, the executives are cutting their pay by 30-50%, so that's something.

That is a slap on the wrist and it's temporary. The same idiots are in charge and they are suddenly going to fix the problems. Any normal company would clean house and hire some ass kickers and fresh eyes. Clearly Nintendo is asleep at the wheel here. You can't fix stupid all stupid can do is follow orders not call plays.

#21 Edited by Rage010101 (5470 posts) -

Why is this guy still employed? He done fucked up way too many times already. A salary cut is not fixing the problem. IWATA IS THE PROBLEM! New management is needed. Nintendo cannot change and hope to prosper with this guy calling the shots. Guy has a long track record of broken promises. Time to cut him lose!

#22 Posted by PurpleMan5000 (6857 posts) -

@PurpleMan5000 said:

@no-scope-AK47 said:

So basically nobody at Nintendo is going to take responsibility for this clusterfuck. Not only that but all the idiots are still on the payroll. Must be nice to work for Nintendo and just do dumb shit and still keep your job.

Well, the executives are cutting their pay by 30-50%, so that's something.

That is a slap on the wrist and it's temporary. The same idiots are in charge and they are suddenly going to fix the problems. Any normal company would clean house and hire some ass kickers and fresh eyes. Clearly Nintendo is asleep at the wheel here. You can't fix stupid all stupid can do is follow orders not call plays.

They did the same thing when it looked like the 3DS was dead in the water, and it is doing very well, now. I think Nintendo owes this group a little bit of time to at least attempt to turn around the Wii U, as well. Iwata was CEO for the DS, Wii, and 3DS, 3 of Nintendo's best selling machines ever created. Nintendo might not put out what you would like to see, but they do remarkably well for a company that only makes video games and consoles.

#23 Posted by PhazonBlazer (11504 posts) -

Please understand.

#24 Posted by MonsieurX (29225 posts) -

Honestly the best thing they could do is admit defeat and relaunch a console more powerful than the PS4/XB1, that would set a cat amongst the pigeons in the console war lol

They wouldn't gain much from doing that.

Multiplats wouldn't look any better(lol lazy devs) and Nintendo's first party has never been around graphics

#25 Posted by PurpleMan5000 (6857 posts) -

@blue_hazy_basic said:

Honestly the best thing they could do is admit defeat and relaunch a console more powerful than the PS4/XB1, that would set a cat amongst the pigeons in the console war lol

They wouldn't gain much from doing that.

Multiplats wouldn't look any better(lol lazy devs) and Nintendo's first party has never been around graphics

Yeah, I'm not paying $500 for a machine to play Nintendo exclusives on.

#26 Edited by AznbkdX (3120 posts) -

While an obvious admission, he was hinting at this many times without saying it. It's pretty much another day for the WiiU.

Iwata would never say that something is outright bad unless there is nothing he can do to really hide it. He had an excuse with Mario (and still kind of does with MK but the strategy of new renditions of old popular games selling systems has not worked so far) but now he doesn't.

#27 Posted by no-scope-AK47 (2681 posts) -

@no-scope-AK47 said:

@PurpleMan5000 said:

@no-scope-AK47 said:

So basically nobody at Nintendo is going to take responsibility for this clusterfuck. Not only that but all the idiots are still on the payroll. Must be nice to work for Nintendo and just do dumb shit and still keep your job.

Well, the executives are cutting their pay by 30-50%, so that's something.

That is a slap on the wrist and it's temporary. The same idiots are in charge and they are suddenly going to fix the problems. Any normal company would clean house and hire some ass kickers and fresh eyes. Clearly Nintendo is asleep at the wheel here. You can't fix stupid all stupid can do is follow orders not call plays.

They did the same thing when it looked like the 3DS was dead in the water, and it is doing very well, now. I think Nintendo owes this group a little bit of time to at least attempt to turn around the Wii U, as well. Iwata was CEO for the DS, Wii, and 3DS, 3 of Nintendo's best selling machines ever created. Nintendo might not put out what you would like to see, but they do remarkably well for a company that only makes video games and consoles.

Not my company they can have all the chances they want. The wii was pure luck IMO a gimmick with under powered hardware and no 3rd party support and crappy online was a hit.

#28 Posted by SonicNextGen2 (3396 posts) -

I am going to wait and see what they have in store of E3 2014, if nothing big or new shows up, then they will lose the one thing that could save the Wii U: Software.

#29 Posted by AznbkdX (3120 posts) -

I better see something at that investor meeting or the Direct soon after that Nintendo! :P

#30 Posted by PrincessGomez92 (3364 posts) -

Wii U will be fine. :)

#31 Edited by Lulu_Lulu (9943 posts) -

Did he actually say the word "Failure" ?

PR department must be facepalming itself.

#32 Edited by no-scope-AK47 (2681 posts) -

Did he actually say the word "Failure" ?

PR department must be facepalming itself.

So the wii u had the desired outcome and is a what slightly delayed success story ??

#33 Edited by hiphops_savior (7825 posts) -

@no-scope-AK47: It also had a simple message and a game that sold you on it. Sony learned just how effective a simple message was, and created the whole "for the gamers" lie as the marketing slogan for the PS4. No gimmicks, nothing new except prettier graphics, and we will not screw you over willingly (does not mention they won't stop 3rd party publishers from spying on you).

#34 Edited by I_can_haz (6551 posts) -

#35 Posted by cainetao11 (16588 posts) -

The tablet controller didn't capture the imagination, like the motion controls. I did own one at launch and that tablet controller was a great controller imo. But why did they believe they would keep getting 3rd party support, when the other two consoles were going to move up in power? They didn't get 3rd party with Wii alongside ps3/360; there was no reason to believe it would be any different when new consoles were announced.

#36 Posted by Lulu_Lulu (9943 posts) -

@ no-scope-AK47

I know nothing about that, I'm just shocked he said the word "Failure" specifically. I don't care if they're liquidating your assets in the background, never say "failure". If I was him, the word wouldn't even exist to me.

#37 Posted by AzatiS (7142 posts) -

When i was saying again and again that they were promoting CONTROLER way more than HARDWARE ... some sheeps went crazy. Play the controller now...

#38 Posted by AzatiS (7142 posts) -

@Joedgabe said:

It's hard to go back after already making it dropping the whole console would back-stab it's fans and those that have supported it already. Though going for a gimmick was never a good idea, not realizing they just got lucky last generation is pretty damn ignorant to be quite honest. The Wii's selling point, the controllers played horribly for most of the games. ( that twilight princess x_x )

Exactly ...

In the same "trap" M$ felt as well. Thats why X1 isnt getting the attention many thought ... They wanted to make something between Wii and PS3 for next gen. Something that will offer gimmick controls , will be powerful enough to play 3rd party titles and all the internet and multimedia options. It ended doing everything ..but just decent.

Gimmick controls are ok but not for too long. Wii died prematurely for that specific reason ... Not many games , not good hardware to keep up and people got bored. Why the hell they thought Wii U would work ? A god knows.

#39 Posted by senses_fail_06 (6735 posts) -

As observant as ever. Thanks for the report, Iwata.

#40 Edited by no-scope-AK47 (2681 posts) -

@no-scope-AK47: It also had a simple message and a game that sold you on it. Sony learned just how effective a simple message was, and created the whole "for the gamers" lie as the marketing slogan for the PS4. No gimmicks, nothing new except prettier graphics, and we will not screw you over willingly (does not mention they won't stop 3rd party publishers from spying on you).

All these guys want is your money Nintendo just does a piss poor job making me open my wallet. Nothing sexy about the wii no new graphics or online or social features or services. Not even 3rd party support the bare minimum for a next gen console that is going to last me 5 years.

Yes Sony and M$ are greedy mega corps but they are giving me at least giving value for my console dollar. Sony just happens to offer the best value for my gaming dollar. I have no personal favorite in this console race I pick whoever gives best value for my money.

#41 Posted by AmazonTreeBoa (16744 posts) -

THis is part of why I will not get a Wii U. I don't want to buy one just to have it get discontinued.

#42 Posted by HitmanActual (317 posts) -

If the tablet controller is so great, why aren't people rushing out to buy the WiiU? The tablet controller is actually the reason I will not buy the WiiU. Sick of gimmicky shit being forced on me and not simply an option. If it sold standard with the pro controller I most probably would have bought one, but now it is dead in the water and only a miracle will make me buy one.

It is underpowered and has no games that strike my interest at all. Add to that a tiny HDD that is completely worthless and a controller that I don't want...nice job Nintendo.

#43 Edited by g0ddyX (3889 posts) -

Took them a year to say it.
I heard he took salary drop in order to save Nintendo some money.
With the money from Wii, am sure he can afford to.

#44 Posted by chocolate1325 (32433 posts) -

Wow those are some strong words but at least he hasn't hided from it.

#45 Posted by AmayaPapaya (9011 posts) -

They haven't been able to turn it around like the 3DS so far. The gamepad is a great idea, it's just lacking a lot. The whole system needs more support.

#46 Edited by m_machine024 (14852 posts) -

lol TC translated not in good shape to massive failure. XD

But still yeah, things are looking bad. Obviously.

#47 Edited by ristactionjakso (5666 posts) -

All it needs is games. You can't launch a console with 4 games....

So much focus on 3ds, and none on wii u.

#48 Edited by super600 (30134 posts) -

@Lulu_Lulu said:

Did he actually say the word "Failure" ?

PR department must be facepalming itself.

Not in good shape can be interpreted as massive failure or struggling badly

#49 Posted by Stringerboy (6927 posts) -

Fire the man for Christ sake Nintendo.

#50 Posted by superbuuman (2607 posts) -

Gamepad-less Wii U (with pro controllers) & price drop on the way. :P