is this desperation for sony?

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#1 Sir-Conker
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If the rumors are true... 299 PS3 will own in sales... but i cant help wondering how much money sony will lose... if at first they said they were already LOSING money by setting the price at 600 ... price drop after price drop...

This seems like a last stand for me.. i doubt it would get any lower if the rumor is true... And i WILL be picking one up if it is.

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#2 GunSmith1_basic
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arguably, ninendo created their best games when they were in desperation mode. When they made all those n64 hits, they were fighting for their careers, for the company.

maybe sony will have a similar golden age of software

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#3 Moo-Moo-Milk
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Wasn't it recently stated that Sony is no longer losing money on the production of PS3's. So I guess they can afford to drop the price because the risk wouldn't be as high as it use to be
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#4 Sir-Conker
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arguably, ninendo created their best games when they were in desperation mode. When they made all those n64 hits, they were fighting for their careers, for the company.

maybe sony will have a similar golden age of software

GunSmith1_basic
the stakes are MUCH higher tfor sony though.
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#5 Revolver_Ocelot
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I've heard that the production cost of the PS3 has been cut in half, so instead of it costing $800 to make, it is now $400
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#6 ReverseCycology
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Although its good for consumers, yes its desperation from Sony. The really want make an impact with the video gaming side and not just the movie side of their system. They still need that big bang to lure in potential owners but unfortunately they attracted movie enthusiast more than gamers.

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#7 Bigboi500
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Man I hope the rumors ar true I'd love to pick up a white PS3 for $300. :)
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#8 jyoung312
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No it's not desperation because it was pretty much expected that Sony would drop the price sometime early this year before the big guns come out. I just expected them to wait until March or April when MS makes a similar move. However, with the reduction of production costs and blu-ray victory maybe sony wants to jump the gun and finally even the pricing field so that they can match their goals. At $50 more than the wii, a 40gb ps3 is a downright steal and any gamer who turns it down is a huge fanboy and not a gamer
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#9 thageneral3
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I dont care if the white one is 299 or 399, when it comes to America im selling my 60 gig and buying a white 40
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#10 Solid_Link22
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I think it cost them 400 dollars to manufacture a PS3.
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#11 JB730
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sony's going out swinging

but sony won't be "owning" sales in 2008......not unless nintendo miraculously decides to discontinue production of the wii and DS

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Got an instant sale from me if true, even though it doesn't have any must have titles still imho, the filler titles out there are decent enough at that tag. Of course I would love to get a white one.
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I think Sony Playstation 3 will have the strongest year of all 3 consoles. This year Sony has big title games in every genre.

Fighting= Tekken 6/Soul Calibur 4

Freeroam= GTA 4/Infamous/Yokuza 3

RPG= White Knight Story/FFXIII/ FFXIII Versus/ FFXIII AGITO

Shooter= Killzone 2, Resistence 2, Slocom Confertation, Haze

Racing= Gran Tourismo Prolouge

Sony really has an ACE 2008 I think this year everyone should have a PS3

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If the rumors are true... 299 PS3 will own in sales... but i cant help wondering how much money sony will lose... if at first they said they were already LOSING money by setting the price at 600 ... price drop after price drop...

This seems like a last stand for me.. i doubt it would get any lower if the rumor is true... And i WILL be picking one up if it is.

Sir-Conker

that artical is screwed up. it says that it will be the same price as the current 40gb (they say it is selling for 300) is sellling for 400 which would mean that it would still sell for 400. But Sony does have there production costs down so they still could make money on the 80gb at $450

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#15 JLAudio7
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that sounds too good to be true. id have to pick it up if it were just 300. but i couldnt do it without first feeling sorry for the people who got the system at launch. paying (in some cases) double that price.:?

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#16 carl2tan
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299 for a 360 or PS3? WOW! Wii is a complete rip off.
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#17 Dilrod
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Its not desperation, you don't understand business if you think it is.

Time Warner. In exchange for Time Warner's exclusitivity (and an end to the format war), Sony has promised to reduce the price of the Playstation 3. As many of you know the Playstation 3 is equipped with a blu-ray disk drive, and the more the Ps3 sells, the greater the chance of Blu-Ray's success

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#18 ReverseCycology
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The white ceramic PS3 is true but the $299 PS3 is false but if it was true I don't think its desperation more like Sony feels like they're comfortable enough and stable enough to sell these things at that price.

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#19 Zhengi
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They really do seem desperate because not only is there a console war riding on this, but also a next gen movie format in Blu-Ray. Imagine how much blu-ray would be successful if the PS3 reached the PS2's userbase of 120 million. That will give a great boost to both their gaming and entertainment division. So Sony definitely needs to win this war on two fronts that will gain it billions in revenue and profits.
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#20 jyoung312
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299 for a 360 or PS3? WOW! Wii is a complete rip off.carl2tan
QFT!! Seriously I don't know how any one with a brain and any knowledge of the games coming in 2008 could look at 40gb ps3 at $299, wii @ $250, and 360 core @ $280 and not walk away with a ps3. I'm an early adopter that paid $600 for 60gb and I don't feel shafted at all. The more ps3 owners the merrier
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Got an instant sale from me if true, even though it doesn't have any must have titles still imho, the filler titles out there are decent enough at that tag. Of course I would love to get a white one.-RPGamer-

you'd buy it without BC?

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#22 Cedmln
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They would only be losing $100 if they made the 40 GB $300, but whatever will give them a super boost in sales without sacrificing too much would be good.

And yes it is desperation.

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#23 Akuma88
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[QUOTE="GunSmith1_basic"]

arguably, ninendo created their best games when they were in desperation mode. When they made all those n64 hits, they were fighting for their careers, for the company.

maybe sony will have a similar golden age of software

Sir-Conker

the stakes are MUCH higher tfor sony though.

If Nintendo's games fail then Nintendo is done. I don't understand how a company that's in all sorts of electronics would be done for if it's gaming department goes in the red (unless of course Sony is doing bad in other places too).

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#24 Zhengi
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[QUOTE="carl2tan"]299 for a 360 or PS3? WOW! Wii is a complete rip off.jyoung312
QFT!! Seriously I don't know how any one with a brain and any knowledge of the games coming in 2008 could look at 40gb ps3 at $299, wii @ $250, and 360 core @ $280 and not walk away with a ps3. I'm an early adopter that paid $600 for 60gb and I don't feel shafted at all. The more ps3 owners the merrier

The core is garbage. The PS3 isn't even at $300 yet. If you're going to talk hypotheticals, it's the same as saying "How can anyone pay $1000000 for a PS3 and $1000000 for a 360 when the Wii only costs $1?"

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How is it? Now they have secured Blu-Ray, why not drop the price?
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[QUOTE="-RPGamer-"]Got an instant sale from me if true, even though it doesn't have any must have titles still imho, the filler titles out there are decent enough at that tag. Of course I would love to get a white one.the_h_bomb

you'd buy it without BC?

id trade in my 60 gig (wit bc) for a white one without

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#27 MotoRacer81
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If the rumors are true... 299 PS3 will own in sales... but i cant help wondering how much money sony will lose... if at first they said they were already LOSING money by setting the price at 600 ... price drop after price drop...

This seems like a last stand for me.. i doubt it would get any lower if the rumor is true... And i WILL be picking one up if it is.

Sir-Conker

do you even live in this world?? the PS3 is outselling the 360 in worldwide sales and that's before MGS4 or GT5 or FF13 are even out. It will continue to do so I believe.

That is not a desperation move anyway, it's called Competition. they want to offer it at a lower price so they can gain more market share, plus the Sony is breaking even on the 40Gb PS3 right now and is making 100 dollars on the 80Gb model so they are not loosing any money.

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#28 the-very-best
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I think they'll do a price drop around MGSIV, and I think they'll release the white PS3 in the coming weeks.
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#29 the_h_bomb
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id trade in my 60 gig (wit bc) for a white one without

thageneral3

colour's a lot nicer but BC is a necessity

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#30 jkmetalf
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How is it? Now they have secured Blu-Ray, why not drop the price?Wasdie

This is probably one of the most logical reasons for the drop in price.

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#31 jkmetalf
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[QUOTE="thageneral3"]

id trade in my 60 gig (wit bc) for a white one without

the_h_bomb

colour's a lot nicer but BC is a necessity

I would like BC but its not a deal breaker for me.

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#32 unreal48
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....why are people in a pure anti sony mood after the rumour of the price drop
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#33 MrMcFail
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I think Sony Playstation 3 will have the strongest year of all 3 consoles. This year Sony has big title games in every genre.

Fighting= Tekken 6/Soul Calibur 4

Freeroam= GTA 4/Infamous/Yokuza 3

RPG= White Knight Story/FFXIII/ FFXIII Versus/ FFXIII AGITO

Shooter= Killzone 2, Resistence 2, Slocom Confertation, Haze

Racing= Gran Tourismo Prolouge

Sony really has an ACE 2008 I think this year everyone should have a PS3

PusherT

If only they didnt get delayed all the time...

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#34 andrewt1187
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With the decline in production costs, the near win of Blu Ray and the continued success of the PS2 (people forget that this thing still sells a butt load), a price drop isn't unbelievable.

I'm nearly sure that Sony has patents on Blu Ray. Thus, they make money every time a Blu Ray disc is sold. Securing the success of Blu Ray is what they are after as of now. Their gaming division will pick up the pace in the coming years.

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I've heard that the production cost of the PS3 has been cut in half, so instead of it costing $800 to make, it is now $400Revolver_Ocelot
I heard the very same thing in a podcast.
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#36 dream431ca
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If the rumors are true... 299 PS3 will own in sales... but i cant help wondering how much money sony will lose... if at first they said they were already LOSING money by setting the price at 600 ... price drop after price drop...

This seems like a last stand for me.. i doubt it would get any lower if the rumor is true... And i WILL be picking one up if it is.

Sir-Conker

Well since the SKU's are cheaper to make now, they won't loose any money and can afford a price drop.

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#37 kage_53
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If the rumors are true... 299 PS3 will own in sales... but i cant help wondering how much money sony will lose... if at first they said they were already LOSING money by setting the price at 600 ... price drop after price drop...

This seems like a last stand for me.. i doubt it would get any lower if the rumor is true... And i WILL be picking one up if it is.

Sir-Conker
Sony lowered PS3's cost production by $400. They can afford it.
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#38 lukie_pie
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300 dollars is too expensive for me. im buying an N64