Is there point of Xbox One? (don´t count EXCLUSIVES)

Part of the issue is that it's still perceived as a direct gaming console, which it's not. Its been described and advertised as an entertainment hub basically since its release, and it plays that role well. Can't say I regret getting it. The game selection is weak, but it's also weak all over and hopefully this year remedies that issue.

As for exclusives, I honestly couldn't care less. That's what the Wii-U will be for when I get that in the next few weeks.

Apparently Slow Robert isn't au fait with the time when games were released finished and working. Strange, it wasn't really that long ago.

Strange, you don't get the concept of patching a game (first month of release Halo MCC), and updates that come out now. It isn't a broken game, it's an amazing game, but because of cow insecurity you must bash the game. I get it you know, with the failure that KZ is

It isn't a broken game other than for the four months and counting it's spent getting patched endlessly, including the first few weeks when matchmaking didn't work at all.

What a time to be alive.

Like I said, you don't understand the difference between patching and updating

Right, they "updated" the Disaster Chief Collection to work a bit.

Desperate even by your terrible standards, Slow Robert.

There's always room for consoles on the market. It keeps everyone in check through healthy competition.

Nope, they patched Halo MCC multiplayer the first weeks, and now everything already works as it should for 2 months. In those two months, every download was an update to make the performance even more better.

I know you anti-xbox boys don't like Halo MCC because it helped Microsoft win NPD two months in a row, and is the best bundle ever since The Orange Box.

@GrenadeLauncher: That's the thing though, it fully works. Do you have an x1 or MCC to actually try it or do you always talk out your bum?

There are plenty of games much older than MCC that still receive patches and stability updates. Yes the online got off to a rough start, but if you're a halo fan the game is a must have. I've really enjoyed myself playing it anyhow, spent more time in MCC than I did on my ps4 overall last year.

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What part of "no one actually wanted an all in one entertainment console" isn't a lie when the consumer market has shown differently?

Oh, you are actually serious. I suppose the fact the thing struggled more than gangbang porn at $500 with Kinect would have been the first clue.

But Microsoft's own messaging doing an about face could also be one. Riddle me this, riddle me that.

If even only one person bought the console at launch, what I bolded and questioned you on posting is a lie. No way to change that.

There's also no way you can change the fact that the XBone fell off the top 20 selling videogame items on Amazon this morning.

Great. But I didn't post any lies as to how well the console is selling. You did post "no one actually wanted an all in one entertainment console" all the while knowing millions have bought the console. That makes it a lie.

Well, now hold up there. Let's go there. Wasn't it MS that was screaming to the moon before the thing launched that they "have no plans to make a kinectless SKU" and "blah blah blah Kinect is part of the integral next-gen experiences" and shit like that? Because, God as my witness, it is unclear to this day how many people would have happily waited to get the Xbone if they knew there was going to be an unbundled version from the get-go.

You're calling me a liar, but I'll be damned if I don't call shenanigans for MS acting like a used car salesman since this fucking thing landed.

No point dude. A while back I called him out, said I'd play some MCC any weekend of his choosing. He cant because he doesnt own the console and game. I don't go out of my way to hate the WiiU. I don't own the console and couldn't honestly critique it. Guy is in love with Sony.

Is there a point of Xbox One? (Don't count exclusives, PC/Xbox exclusives, U.I., support, online, multitasking, etc.)

Yes there is.

Disaster Chief Collection shills still exist. What a time to be alive.

Yeah, I remember that when the first, second, third, fourth patches were released. Still reading of people having problems. Obviously "fully works" has some kind of different definition for lemmings.

This is what battered housewife syndrome looks like.

I don't need to eat shit to know it tastes like shit, lem. And yes, Sony also has form with games not fully working before release - just so happens the Disaster Chief Collection is officially the gold standard when it comes to that shit.

Oh, that'll be why the lemmings are only crowing about the game for the last week, for the most part.

Check yourself before you wreck yourself, only time Disaster Chief Collection showed up on NPD was at 9th place in November. It was massive price cuts and third party bundling that flogged Xbones.

Comparing this dogshit to The Orange Box is just insulting. Typical lemming stupidity.

Yes it still exists. 5000 achievement points of glory. Soon to have another campaign added for free in ODST and another 1000 achievement points. Glory I tell you.

I tested out the online yesterday. I got in matches under a minute and kicked ass. Glory, I tell you.

MCC 87 MC score, just sayin. :P

Go right ahead, I don't work there. If you go back to our first exchange in this thread and read from then on, it seems you are arguing with MS. I have made no claims as to how it is selling, if many didn't want Kinect or whatever. You however did make a factually false claim and day one sales is all anyone needed to see your claim was false.

Damn that butthurt, don't cry, KZ is also a shooter

Actually MCC works fine, reallly haven't encountered any problems with it at all and matchmaking work and the single player for all 4 halos was always working. But you don't have an X1 or MCC to even really comment on that topic anyways so why do you always bring up that game? How long did it take DriveClub to finally get up and running and they still can't get the free version of the game out that they promised people, but you never seem to want to bring that up.

@GrenadeLauncher:

As you wish. Doesn't change the fact that many of us have been playing it online for months while you have claimed its broken. You lie like this because of fanboyism. I don't. That's all my point.

Stay in denial, lems, it just makes you look worse, as if such a thing were even possible.

Plenty of evidence out there on the official Halo forums all the way down to GameFAQs about how busted the DCC was for months on end for most and still doesn't work for many.

As for Drive Club, the online was fixed long before DCC's was at its point in its lifetime and the SP had no problems either.

Truth hurts, eh Slow Robert? Another "tentpole franchise" that's been compromised by MS Studio's piss poor management.

Funny you bring up Killzone, I'd played about as much of it as I have Halo. :)

Games are thin in the ground for you Justin, I can see why you would be dependent on ports. Titanfall, this, ODST, soon Neverwinter, Goat Simulator and Smite. The leftovers are on Portbox Done. :P

@GrenadeLauncher:

No denial here. I offered to prove it to you but you wouldn't take the challenge. Oh I forgot, you read it doesnt work.

That is because the xbox one was develop to be a cable box that play games.

@GrenadeLauncher:

Drive Club came out about a month before Halo, also it was suppose to be a launch for the PS4 and even after a year delay, it was still broken and it wasn't until maybe a few months that they got the game running good with most if not all it's features. You say there's evidence of Halo being broken from Halo forums, if you don't like Halo or X1 then why are you browsing Halo forums anyways lol. I've played the game with little to now problems for some months now, the last patch just made things a little better but I didn't have match making issues at all, and that's speaking from experience and not from forum boards.

@GrenadeLauncher: LOL ok so I was right, you don't have the console and have probably never played MCC. The game does fully work now, no matter where you go for any game you will always find people with issues. Name a game right now and Ill go find you forum posts of them having trouble connecting. It's just funny how you talk so bad about something you've never even experienced lol

I own both consoles myself man, at least I'm not a mindless fanboy like yourself. I'm happy the Xbox has MCC, because it's one of the games I play waiting for games to come out on my PS4 lol (That's been un-plugged, under my bed for the past year)

The online had a rough start, so what? Things happen, like the company said the real world environment is very different from testing circumstances. I like halo, having all 4 of them re-mastered on one disc is an amazing thing for me. I would have bought it if it shipped with no online component at all, all of my best halo memories were either in co-op campaign or local split screen anyway. But don't get me wrong I love halo online and I will be playing it even more now that it's fixed. I understood the initial frustration of the online not working for those who specifically wanted to play it, but like I said, they've been doing their best to make up for it. Many patches to correct it, a month free of membership and a free ODST campaign add on is more than fair compensation imo.

Keep on hating bro, I'm sure it helps you enjoy your PS4 even more xD

Oh come on you can't be this naive even if the xbox one would have come with no HDMI in or heavy multimedia features it would have sold millions,the xbox had non of those and sold millions,and the 360 didn't have HDMI in hell the first xbox 360 didn't even have HDMI out...

Regardless of how the xbox one would have come it would have sold millions.

No the general consensus by Gamers is that the want a PS4 over an xbox one,if not the XBO would be selling better is even cheaper for Christ sake.

Not only that the general consensus on sites like gamerankings and Metacritics is the PS4 has more games and higher scoring ones,no game on xbox one that is not on PS4 has 95%... You can't say the same for the PS4 which does have a 95% game which is not on xbox.

OMG....I didn't know what DLNA was...omg....what ever shall I do.

I guess I'll just continue to watch movies through Netflix and Redbox.....oh fucking no.

Dude that's absurd reasoning. Nobody had HDMI when the first Xbox came out, and it wasn't even the accepted commonality that it is now in 2005 when the 360 came out. Just look at the cost of HDMI cables in 2005 compared to now.

He posted a bold faced lie, I called him out on it. It has nothing to do with naiveté.

Glorious multi-paragraph meltdown because he can't just accept that MS rushed out a shit port collection that's still broken for many people. May as well waste your time screaming about how the water cycle doesn't exist.

I saw people claiming it worked back in December. But hey, people will go to any length to protect their sacred cow.

Yes, hence I said "at the same point in its life." IIRC they got most of the online working in a few weeks, which is more than I can say for the clowns at 343i. Got linked to it a few times along my travels, it's not too conspiratorial.

Anyway, thanks for the anecdote.

@GrenadeLauncher:

Point is you quick to bring up the misstep of 343 and Halo for not working when released but Sony isn't above shipping out broken games as well. Last year quite a few games shipped broken with Assassin's Creed being the worse, Halo is working, Guess Drive Club is working and Assassin's Creed is working so stop acting like this is an exclusive problem to 1 MS game.

Netflix is available in what? 12 countries? Redbox only in USA? So yeah DLNA is a big deal in the rest of the world. I'm not calling you stupid for not knowing what DLNA is, that doesn't matter. But it's a feature that Xbox One has, and PS4 doesn't. A feature that a lot of people really want on their PS4, and just because you don't need it doesn't mean that goes for everybody. I get why you chose the PS4, because it checks all your boxes, but I was talking about the global scale of things, not just your opinion.

Apparently, the multiplats considering they are said to be the real reason these consoles sell.

@GrenadeLauncher: "I saw people claiming it worked back in December. But hey, people will go to any length to protect their sacred cow."

So basically you read Xbox and Halo forums and only believe people who post something that matches YOUR fanboy agenda. Your credibility is amazing

Using the TC's logic there's really isn't a point to owning a PS4 either. A few crappy low scoring exclusives, and tons of indie games that can already be played elsewhere.

If it was that big of a deal so many ppl wouldn't have bought a PS4 and instead bought an X1.

As it stands, it's not "just my opinion".

Either way...I said "I don't care about it" from the beginning..."I"....you the other guy were the ones that had to make a huge fucking deal about it when you asked me about the feature...and then got pissed b/c I said I didn't care about it.

So don't act like all of a sudden you're all understanding about my personal preference and why the PS4 meets my check boxes.

If you'd bothered to read my posts you'd notice I brought that up. DCC manages to outclass the blunders any other publisher has made to date.

When that sentiment is reflected by the majority, I'll take that over your damage control, lem.

@GrenadeLauncher:

Going to need hard numbers to prove to me that its the majority. Otherwise its still you cherry picking your fanboy bullshit. I can go online and see how many are playing MCC. Bet you cant find even half that amount of posts saying its broken.

Bwahahaha, I remember when lemmings tried to demonstrate the DCC worked in January by going "L-look how many people are broadcasting on Twitch!!!" Yeah, about 30. Good job.

Nice try. For the most part for the past four months it's been "it doesn't work and the last patch did nothing." It's not going to make your plastic toy disappear to just accept the most basic fact. It happened. Get over it. Then again this turd was supposed to be the crown jewel in the Shitbox's 2014 lineup. No wonder lems are so aggro about it.

HAHAHAHAHA you DC is awesome. Another challenge you wont take. You are a coward. "Get over it"? We have because we are playing the working game, you are reading forums of a console and game you don't own. I have challenged you to play it with me you chicken out. I wont use twitch, I'll look at the online population when I fire it up, and I bet you cant find half as many complaints from say the last 30 days from different posters saying its still broken. You chicken out. You're a real COWard HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

@GrenadeLauncher: It's so funny how perception changes everything. "A multi-paragraph meltdown" It's called a conversation, a discussion my friend. You should learn how to have one. I also have this great thing called an opinion, I do not think MS rushed out a "shit port". The MCC is a great collection that launched with a broken online, simple as that.

I disagree with you, but at least I can discuss my opinion. While you are entirely evasive and never really talk about anything except how bad games are that you've never played.

But Ill waste no more of my effort on you. Have a good one brother.

Guys, im talking about Xbox One vs. PS4 (but not counting Exclusives). I mean PS4 has better multiplatform games(framerate, graphics) and online gives you also more games to play. Share game is only possible on PS4.

How are the multiplatforms game better on the PS4? They are the same game, same gameplay, same story across the platforms. Once might look a little more shiner but the other might give you better frame rate so how is the PS4 games better? I never could understand that logic cause Sony fans make it seem like they getting so much more story and gameplay than the X1 counterparts.

Perhaps it's all the content exclusives. Like in Destiny and Batman. You do own a PS4, right? I feel like I'm explaining something you should know.

Also, the past nine years have been a framerate and native resolution fest on pretty much every gaming forum. Now that the pendulum has swung around back to the PS4 I hear a whole lot of people saying "It doesn't matter" in correlation with "Sony fans/fanboys".. It's some 1984 ass shit trying to wish the past decade of console wars away.

The XBox fanbase harped this shit up where before no one actually cared. Now the Sword of Damocles hangs high. Resolution, framerate, NPD, software sales, online functionality, etc etc. It's all on the PS4, now. People am cry.

That national poll cited "brand" as the #1 reason. They found something they like in the 360 and are sticking with MS this gen.

Don't forget MS has superior servers for online play. If I played more online games I would definitely consider the X1.

After being with Sony for 3 gens I was looking to jump ship to MS. Then the unveiling happened and MS more or less forced my hand to buy a PS4. I hope they do better next gen. I own a console to play games on first and foremost. Not watch TV and sports.

PS4 games run at higher resolutions, better graphics. But if you're on consoles, you shouldn't be playing for the graphics.

Also how's that 16 fps on Dead Rising 3 working out?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lxdwi2kgSqg

It runs about the same as Resident Evil Revelations 2 does on the PS4. Look at the video smart mouth. Neither console runs games perfectly so what are you saying to me?

Funny how subjective life is. You say frame rate and resolution has been a massive battle ground for nine years. But I remember last gen when resolution didn't matter all that much and hermits bring that up in every resolution thread. That's peculiar.

And online functionality? Yeah no. Both networks get knocked down too much to even try to claim ownership over the other.

Well, now they do. Wasn't the case so much last gen. At least we can agree on that.

Agreed indeed.