Is it hard for lemmings to admit that Microsoft messed up?

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#1 Edited by XboxFails (81 posts) -

I was a die-hard Xbox fanboy ever since the original Xbox released back in 2001. The console was incredibly innovative for its superior social features that the PS2 and GameCube lacked.

Then, Microsoft released the Xbox 360 in 2005 and once again revolutionized console gaming. Xbox LIVE was THE best place to play with your friends and the controller was the clear choice for gamers. The PS3 stood no chance against Microsoft's forward-thinking console.

Now, they released possibly the worst console of all time. Crap power. Overpriced. No innovation. I know it's silly, but I get the feeling that Microsoft betrayed me when they announced this POS of a machine. The Xbone is essentially a rebranded Xbox 360. The console hardly improved anything from its previous iteration. We're still stuck with long loading times, long install times, garbage controller, 720p resolution... I would have accepted Microsoft's console if they at least fixed some of the major problems of last-gen consoles, but NOTHING was fixed. The Xbone suffers from the same major problems that last-gen consoles faced. Not only is there no innovation at all, there is hardly any improvement.

Unlike SONY which came into last-gen with the monumental momentum from the PS2-era, Microsoft is entering this generation with the least amount of hype. Unless Microsoft starts releasing AAAE exclusives every month for the remainder of this generation, the Xbox division will fail; it's ironic considering how lemmings were saying the playstation was doomed. I guess karma is a bitch, eh?

#2 Posted by babycakin (1400 posts) -

No true delusional fan boy lemming will admit that their entity Microsoft can make such mistakes. Come on now, you know this.

#3 Posted by Bruin1986 (1196 posts) -

I was trying to take your post seriously until you said, "we're still stuck with a garbage controller".

The 360 controller is largely considered the best controller ever made and the new controller improves on almost every facet of the controller, with the possible exception of the bumper buttons based on personal taste.

Come on now...

#4 Posted by ZoomZoom2490 (3934 posts) -

to be honest, I don't consider Xbox One as a gaming console, I think we need a new genre in electronics.

#5 Posted by SuperCowElitist (730 posts) -

You expect lemmings to discard their fanboyism aside and admit Microsoft mistakes?

#6 Edited by NFJSupreme (5111 posts) -

I was following you but then I stopped reading after the first sentence of your third paragraph when I realized you were just a cow that was well, having a cow. Your moos are falling on deaf ears.

#7 Posted by good_sk8er7 (4320 posts) -

I was trying to take your post seriously until you said, "we're still stuck with a garbage controller".

The 360 controller is largely considered the best controller ever made and the new controller improves on almost every facet of the controller, with the possible exception of the bumper buttons based on personal taste.

Come on now...

Yeah really, the 360 controller was great. The X1 controller only improves on it.

I like the DS4 more personally, but the X1 controller isn't garbage, that is a ridiculous statement,

#8 Posted by Krelian-co (10208 posts) -

they didn't post resveal and e3 making some dumb excuses for the drm and so on, they won't now.

#9 Posted by Renegade311 (334 posts) -

@XboxFails: Battlefieldfan1 thread, flag it, lock it, dump it

#10 Edited by Newhopes (4468 posts) -

About a well as Sonys idiot fan club.

#11 Edited by lamprey263 (22626 posts) -

I was a die-hard Xbox fanboy ever since the original Xbox released back in 2001

with a name like yours I find it hard to believe that

#12 Posted by psymon100 (6138 posts) -

man, during your little hiatus some really awesome shit happened.

maybe you were here on another account. place has been fun. plenty of tears, meltdowns, and lols.

#13 Posted by clone01 (24326 posts) -

I was a die-hard Xbox fanboy ever since the original Xbox released back in 2001. The console was incredibly innovative for its superior social features that the PS2 and GameCube lacked.

Then, Microsoft released the Xbox 360 in 2005 and once again revolutionized console gaming. Xbox LIVE was THE best place to play with your friends and the controller was the clear choice for gamers. The PS3 stood no chance against Microsoft's forward-thinking console.

Now, they released possibly the worst console of all time. Crap power. Overpriced. No innovation. I know it's silly, but I get the feeling that Microsoft betrayed me when they announced this POS of a machine. The Xbone is essentially a rebranded Xbox 360. The console hardly improved anything from its previous iteration. We're still stuck with long loading times, long install times, garbage controller, 720p resolution... I would have accepted Microsoft's console if they at least fixed some of the major problems of last-gen consoles, but NOTHING was fixed. The Xbone suffers from the same major problems that last-gen consoles faced. Not only is there no innovation at all, there is hardly any improvement.

Unlike SONY which came into last-gen with the monumental momentum from the PS2-era, Microsoft is entering this generation with the least amount of hype. Unless Microsoft starts releasing AAAE exclusives every month for the remainder of this generation, the Xbox division will fail; it's ironic considering how lemmings were saying the playstation was doomed. I guess karma is a bitch, eh?

Yawn. None of you try anymore.

#14 Posted by MajesticShea (695 posts) -

I was following you but then I stopped reading after the first sentence of your third paragraph when I realized you were just a cow that was well, having a cow. Your moos are falling on deaf ears.

Join us.

#15 Posted by radoman (294 posts) -

Its a good console that will do well in its lifetime and have many good games.

The main thing MS messed up was their messaging and subsequent flip flops. There's still a bunch of people out there who think it doesnt allow used games.

#16 Posted by clr84651 (5338 posts) -

Lems wouldn't admit that Bluray was a necessary and great format for gaming and now it's in their consoles. They denied HDMI and WiFI should be on consoles and then they got it on 360.They can't admit built in rechargable batteries are better than AA batteries although built in rechargable batteries are in all electronic devices these days. They can't admit that Sony giving new and many free games for PSN is better than what MS gives on Xlive subscriptions. They can't admit a darn thing is better than anything that MS is currently doing or has done. It's impossible in their minds for anything MS does wrong as being wrong. They brainwash themselves that's it's necessary and what's best irregardless of the facts or truth of the matter.

#17 Edited by FPSfan1985 (2008 posts) -

The xbox one is a fine system. Perfect for those who want more than just a gaming machine. I think core gamers are just butt hurt over the fact they aren't MS only priority anymore.

#18 Edited by clr84651 (5338 posts) -

A normal response to the question, "Why is MS still using AA batteries in their controllers when Sony's been doing it for 2 gens and MS is still stuck in that past?" Would be " I have no idea. It is strange they haven't gone to rechargable builtin yet". The normal response to Sony uses Bluray and it's very high capacity is great for gaming, since it's scratch resistant and it makes so all games can fit on one disc. But no, they have to deny anything is good about Bluray and it's unnecessary and say it'll be a failed format like Beta Max was. A normal response to Sony gives many new free games to PSN subscribers would be "That's great! It would sure be nice if Xlive did the same". But they can't give Sony any credit whatsoever. Yet Sony has brought more hardware to gaming than any other gaming company. MS socialized online gaming the most and well they should have since they were charging people for it long before Sony did.

#19 Posted by I_can_haz (6551 posts) -

No true delusional fan boy lemming will admit that their entity Microsoft can make such mistakes. Come on now, you know this.

#20 Posted by Zophar87 (4345 posts) -

These are the same idiots that support Microsoft when they wanted to ruin gaming and you expect them to admit wrongdoing?

kay...

#21 Posted by Salt_The_Fries (8278 posts) -

Is it hard for anyone to be rational and admit all console makers are guilty of messing things up to varying degrees instead of being hell bent on one of them in particular?

#22 Edited by cainetao11 (16446 posts) -

@XboxFails: No innovation? What other console has HDMI through, snap from apps to TV to gaming? Now you don't have to like the innovations MS is trying, but that doesn't mean they aren't innovations. But to answer the question, no. It isn't hard to admit they are far from perfect. Nor is it hard to admit Sony is on the ball and I look forward to a great gen from them. Read the thank you MS thread. Its a lot of cows that have trouble with reality.

#23 Edited by delta3074 (17744 posts) -

@clr84651 said:

Lems wouldn't admit that Bluray was a necessary and great format for gaming and now it's in their consoles. They denied HDMI and WiFI should be on consoles and then they got it on 360.They can't admit built in rechargable batteries are better than AA batteries although built in rechargable batteries are in all electronic devices these days. They can't admit that Sony giving new and many free games for PSN is better than what MS gives on Xlive subscriptions. They can't admit a darn thing is better than anything that MS is currently doing or has done. It's impossible in their minds for anything MS does wrong as being wrong. They brainwash themselves that's it's necessary and what's best irregardless of the facts or truth of the matter.

Because it wasn't necessary last gen, i suggest you look up the meaning of the word,Necessary means that the games could not have been released without it on the 360, they where released on the 360, maybe even on more than one disk, but they WHERE released so Blu- Ray was not 'Necessary' at all.

And no, when i can buy rechargeable batteries that last twice as long as the battery in the DS4 and can survive Twice the number of recharges an internal battery is , in this case, not the best option at all.

You basically talk a load of basesless nonsense .

#24 Edited by BeardMaster (1580 posts) -

So an improved kinect and multitasking functions arent revolutionary.... but running the same games with slightly better graphics is revolutionary? ok

#25 Posted by hello505 (130 posts) -

Both consoles are in a shit state currently, but that's bound to change when games are released. Remember games will always be the bread and butter of consoles, no matter how much a Microsoft tries to promote the X1 as a media station.

#26 Edited by HalcyonScarlet (3930 posts) -

No innovation? You mean innovation like the PS4? The PS4 is a Playstation console with X360 design philosophies, with its main strength having a stronger GPU wooooooooooow. You guys had it so bad the last two gens (PS2/3) with development complexity, you consider easy development an innovation.

Oh sorry, I forgot there's mood light on the back of the controller. I suppose Sony innovated with PSN this gen... They added mandatory access costs. Which cows said Sony would never do to them.

Xbox One on the other hand:

Graphics potential is decent enough.

Potential of the cloud. Already begun with cloud ai in Forza 5 for real human behaviour in single player modes, there is no CPU ai. That is an actual innovation. No matter how accurate GT6 is as a sim, it'll still have the same robotic ai.

Kinect: Time of flight accuracy and speed, and can read expressions, estimate your pulse and notice subtle joint movements. Now developers know everyone has it, they will implement it properly in games. These can add real innovations.

This is the worst gen to be boasting about graphics. All the comparison videos shows multiplat games only have more detail compared to last gen games. Even Killzone SF hasn't impressed me much, nothing on any of the machines really has. This gen is about features.

As it turns out, after all their talk, it's the cows who are wrong. Out of the three, it's the Playstation 4 that's looking like the console with the least innovation. Just more of the same with better graphics.

#27 Edited by HalcyonScarlet (3930 posts) -
@clr84651 said:

Lems wouldn't admit that Bluray was a necessary and great format for gaming and now it's in their consoles. They denied HDMI and WiFI should be on consoles and then they got it on 360.They can't admit built in rechargable batteries are better than AA batteries although built in rechargable batteries are in all electronic devices these days. They can't admit that Sony giving new and many free games for PSN is better than what MS gives on Xlive subscriptions. They can't admit a darn thing is better than anything that MS is currently doing or has done. It's impossible in their minds for anything MS does wrong as being wrong. They brainwash themselves that's it's necessary and what's best irregardless of the facts or truth of the matter.

At best it was beneficial for a few games instead of multi discs. There were two problems with the PS3, The first is that the disc drive wasn't really fast enough for them to make good use of Blu Ray, so the padded it out and filled it with audio. The second is that the PS3 was too complex and expensive to develop for, for developers to use Blu Rays extra storage to at least make bigger games. For the most part no one bothered.

#28 Edited by Puggy301 (160 posts) -

Yes, it's seemingly impossible for them to admit . Just read their sycophantic posts. Most Lems who post here are too busy gushing over M$ like a gaggle of dewy, preadolescent schoolgirls fawning over their latest crush to admit M$ screwed the pooch with their voice-activated colostomy bag masquerading as a gaming console.

#29 Posted by lglz1337 (3113 posts) -

lemmings living in denial the last couple months

#30 Posted by XxR3m1xInHDn3D (1967 posts) -

PS4 is the only console that failed so far. When you release a console that is 100% about the gamers with complete crap until 2015 then you have a problem. But I guess people are fine with waiting well over a year so well played Sony

#31 Posted by Liquid_ (2286 posts) -

denial is pretty standard

#32 Edited by aroxx_ab (9204 posts) -

If Xboner have no hardware problems like 360 had and get some good games(read exclusives) it is all that takes for me to be interested. I mean they changed their minds with the "always online" requirements so it is all fine. It looks like they have better cooler than Ps4 and more airflow inside, i mean that thing is huge for a good reason :D

#33 Edited by PAL360 (26627 posts) -

Give them time. Cows took 8 years to accept PS3 had terrible hardware design. Some still believe in the infinite power of the cell!

#34 Posted by locopatho (20112 posts) -

Notwithstanding that TC is a bullshitter and a liar (360 pad was bad? LOL!)...

No, I don't find it hard to admit that MS went from the best "core" gaming console last gen to possibly the worst this gen. (WiiU will take some beating in that regard but MS seem to be trying their best!)

I did take a long time to believe how bad it was though I admit. I simply didn't think MS would squander all their loyalty and rep they built up with two great "core" consoles, in favour of a media box thing. Apparently they did. Their forced Kinect, inferior multiplats, DLC up the ass, highest launch price, are just unbelievable to me. It's like they looked at PS3's terrible launch and said, "That looks fun, lets try it!"

I am very thankful both PC gaming and PS4 exist as alternatives. This is why competition is good, people!

#35 Edited by clr84651 (5338 posts) -

@delta3074 said:

@clr84651 said:

Lems wouldn't admit that Bluray was a necessary and great format for gaming and now it's in their consoles. They denied HDMI and WiFI should be on consoles and then they got it on 360.They can't admit built in rechargable batteries are better than AA batteries although built in rechargable batteries are in all electronic devices these days. They can't admit that Sony giving new and many free games for PSN is better than what MS gives on Xlive subscriptions. They can't admit a darn thing is better than anything that MS is currently doing or has done. It's impossible in their minds for anything MS does wrong as being wrong. They brainwash themselves that's it's necessary and what's best irregardless of the facts or truth of the matter.

Because it wasn't necessary last gen, i suggest you look up the meaning of the word,Necessary means that the games could not have been released without it on the 360, they where released on the 360, maybe even on more than one disk, but they WHERE released so Blu- Ray was not 'Necessary' at all.

And no, when i can buy rechargeable batteries that last twice as long as the battery in the DS4 and can survive Twice the number of recharges an internal battery is , in this case, not the best option at all.

You basically talk a load of basesless nonsense .

Denial that anything Sony does to advance hardware that's best for gaming. If MS doesn't do it then it's not best. What a load of BS!

I suggest you pull your head out and stop being in denial.

MS made online gaming more social that is good for gaming. See I can admit when MS does something good for gaming. You should try it! Say Sony brought Bluray to gaming and it's good for gaming. Come on now! Lol

#36 Posted by blue_hazy_basic (27308 posts) -

This is blog rant not threadworthy.