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#1  Edited By deactivated-5d78760d7d740
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Hear me out, after playing through Bloodborne and the DLC, I really don't see why Bloodborne isn't in the discussion of being one of the best games of all time. Here are my arguments:

Story: The story of Bloodborne is, in my opinion, brilliant. You can run through the entire game without understanding the story and still think it's a great game, but if you really pay attention to what's going on around you, read the descriptions of items, and connect the dots then you're greatly rewarded as a player. It's unique in a way that the story isn't really spoon-fed to you but it's all there. You feel like an outsider lost in this world and you're discovering your way through it. I mean seriously, every boss has a deep background and so does every character. They're all part of this extremely convincing world and it's great to read up on it.

Soundtrack: The soundtrack for Bloodborne is fantastic. There's nothing quite like fighting a boss frantically while listening to the choir go nuts. I would post examples, but the titles of soundtrack videos can have boss spoilers in them. If you don't care about that stuff, then I really recommend listening to it.

Gameplay: The gameplay is extremely deep and diverse. Every weapon has a moveset and you can really familiarize yourself with all sorts of tricks you can pull off with each weapon. The bosses are tough but once you learn their moves and practice, the boss becomes easy. There are a lot of weapon combinations you can use, completely different character builds you can make which change the way you play the game, and more. Every weapon feels great and every level is very well designed. At some points of the game, From Soft actively tries to mess with the players which is cruel but still fun to experience.

Replay Value: Because there are so many different build options and the boss fights are so fun to do, bloodborne has great replay value. I've made many builds for co-op, PvP, and going through the story in a different way and I've invested many hours into doing each of those. There are short cuts to areas of the game and once you really know the areas, you can work your way through them very quickly.

Atmosphere: This is in large part due to the story, graphics, soundtrack, and level design. The atmosphere in Bloodborne is excellent. It's very dreadful, very dark and, as you get to know what's going on around you, it's very unsettling.

Multiplayer: You can make entire builds solely for co-op or PvP regardless of the story mode and play that way. Of course you'd need to know the levels in order to build this way effectively (shortcuts to items, etc.) but the game can definitely sustain itself on multiplayer. Helping others out with bosses, invading other worlds, it's all good fun and it's rewarding too.

Taking all of this into consideration, can we make the case that Bloodborne is one of the greatest games of all time? It's not a casual game and it's an exclusive so it doesn't have a very far reaching audience but despite that it excels because those who do play it love it. This hinders its popularity when compared to other titles such as The Witcher, but I'm talking purely from a quality standpoint. Bloodborne really does something special with its soundtrack, story, and gameplay that I think is very unique and unlike any other game out there.

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#2 Blabadon
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I can easily see the care for it being there for people, it's the Souls blueprint with an unprecedented amount of polish and a superior combat system.

It doesn't make my list though, not in the same way the first Dark Souls did. I loved Dark Souls 2, highly enjoyed Bloodborne, enjoy Demon's Souls, but Dark Souls is transcendental in terms of game design, in a way I consider it an all time great.

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#3  Edited By GreySeal9
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It's amazing for sure, but I wouldn't call it one of the best of all time.

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#4  Edited By SexyJazzCat
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Dark Souls is better. The lore in that game. THAT'S how you handle lore.

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#5 NyaDC
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Not even on the map for me, just can't get into these games.

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#6 LordCrash88
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Nah, I don't think so. But like always, it's a very subjective question.

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@Blabadon said:

I can easily see the care for it being there for people, it's the Souls blueprint with an unprecedented amount of polish and a superior combat system.

It doesn't make my list though, not in the same way the first Dark Souls did. I loved Dark Souls 2, highly enjoyed Bloodborne, enjoy Demon's Souls, but Dark Souls is transcendental in terms of game design, in a way I consider it an all time great.

Dark Souls 2 is also great for similar reasons, so I can see the case for that too. Personally I enjoyed the fast paced gameplay, story, and atmosphere of Bloodborne more than Dark Souls.

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@GreySeal9 said:

It's amazing for sure, but I wouldn't call it one of the best of all time.

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not even interested in playing it tho.

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Sure, if you're a garbage person that likes trash games.

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lolno

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#12  Edited By Skelly34
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Demon Souls 4 hardly qualifies.

If any of those games qualified it would be either the first or the second.

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#13 clr84651
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@SexyJazzCat said:

Dark Souls is better. The lore in that game. THAT'S how you handle lore.

Demon's Souls > Bloodborne > Dark Souls

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#14 LordCrash88
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Why are people so obsessed about lists anyway?

What't the difference if people consider the game "one of the best games of all time" or not? People who already love it will continue to do so and everyone else won't do so anyway. It's so pointless...

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#15 heguain
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I haven't played it (PC gamer only, sorry. But yes, I like lots of console games on PC, even though these ''console games'' are better on PC imo, like RE4 Ultimate Edition). I love Dark Souls though, so I'd say yes.

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#16 heguain
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@LordCrash88 said:

Why are people so obsessed about lists anyway?

What't the difference if people consider the game "one of the best games of all time" or not? People who already love it will continue to do so and everyone else won't do so anyway. It's so pointless...

You're right. I shouldn't care what others think of the games I love.

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#17 lostrib
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Probably not for most people

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Didn't hold my attention for more then a few hours sadly.

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@clr84651: eww

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#20 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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I adore Bloodborne, and my answer is still lolno

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#21  Edited By jhonMalcovich
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After playing for some 20 hours....mmmm no.

The lore is not that extensive as in Darks Souls 1 or 2. Weapon variate is very scarce. Combat is pretty much the same with all weapons. Dark atmosphere kinda wears off its welcome - I like to praise the sun.

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#22  Edited By N64DD
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@foxhound_fox said:

lolno

^^

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@LordCrash88 said:

Why are people so obsessed about lists anyway?

What't the difference if people consider the game "one of the best games of all time" or not? People who already love it will continue to do so and everyone else won't do so anyway. It's so pointless...

Agreed. Its a stupid part of our culture in that competitions have to be made up where there is no need. I loved Demons/Dark souls and Bloodborne. I have no desire to place them in any order. I just enjoy playing them.

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#24  Edited By Juub1990
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@mems_1224: Says the guy with the worst tastes on the entire forum. You're still convinced Viva Pinata is the best Rare game ever?

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Hell no.

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LMAO No

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#27 Slimmin360
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@XVision84:

Actually closer to the worst game ever, the main character is constantly dying, and enemies that reappear in an area you just spent forever clearing, slow progression and even slower weapon upgrades.

It's Dark Souls with a different back drop..... i hated it.

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#28  Edited By silversix_
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It is for me and that's not my cow side speaking. Outside of its engine and the shitty performance that this engine gave us, this game has everything a good game should have. Masterpiece is what BB really is. Its certainly superior to dark souls 1 which is already close to perfect.

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#29 silversix_
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@mems_1224 said:

Sure, if you're a garbage person that likes trash games.

Are you describing your taste? Damn you garbage people.

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@silversix_ said:
@mems_1224 said:

Sure, if you're a garbage person that likes trash games.

Are you describing your taste? Damn you garbage people.

Nah, I don't like Bloodborne. Your comeback is weak as ****

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#31 AzatiS
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@XVision84:

@XVision84 said:

Hear me out, after playing through Bloodborne and the DLC, I really don't see why Bloodborne isn't in the discussion of being one of the best games of all time. Here are my arguments:

Story: The story of Bloodborne is, in my opinion, brilliant. You can run through the entire game without understanding the story and still think it's a great game, but if you really pay attention to what's going on around you, read the descriptions of items, and connect the dots then you're greatly rewarded as a player. It's unique in a way that the story isn't really spoon-fed to you but it's all there. You feel like an outsider lost in this world and you're discovering your way through it. I mean seriously, every boss has a deep background and so does every character. They're all part of this extremely convincing world and it's great to read up on it.

Soundtrack: The soundtrack for Bloodborne is fantastic. There's nothing quite like fighting a boss frantically while listening to the choir go nuts. I would post examples, but the titles of soundtrack videos can have boss spoilers in them. If you don't care about that stuff, then I really recommend listening to it.

Gameplay: The gameplay is extremely deep and diverse. Every weapon has a moveset and you can really familiarize yourself with all sorts of tricks you can pull off with each weapon. The bosses are tough but once you learn their moves and practice, the boss becomes easy. There are a lot of weapon combinations you can use, completely different character builds you can make which change the way you play the game, and more. Every weapon feels great and every level is very well designed. At some points of the game, From Soft actively tries to mess with the players which is cruel but still fun to experience.

Replay Value: Because there are so many different build options and the boss fights are so fun to do, bloodborne has great replay value. I've made many builds for co-op, PvP, and going through the story in a different way and I've invested many hours into doing each of those. There are short cuts to areas of the game and once you really know the areas, you can work your way through them very quickly.

Atmosphere: This is in large part due to the story, graphics, soundtrack, and level design. The atmosphere in Bloodborne is excellent. It's very dreadful, very dark and, as you get to know what's going on around you, it's very unsettling.

Multiplayer: You can make entire builds solely for co-op or PvP regardless of the story mode and play that way. Of course you'd need to know the levels in order to build this way effectively (shortcuts to items, etc.) but the game can definitely sustain itself on multiplayer. Helping others out with bosses, invading other worlds, it's all good fun and it's rewarding too.

Taking all of this into consideration, can we make the case that Bloodborne is one of the greatest games of all time? It's not a casual game and it's an exclusive so it doesn't have a very far reaching audience but despite that it excels because those who do play it love it. This hinders its popularity when compared to other titles such as The Witcher, but I'm talking purely from a quality standpoint. Bloodborne really does something special with its soundtrack, story, and gameplay that I think is very unique and unlike any other game out there.

1) Story wise is great but nothing extraordinary imho even if im really into such fantasy horror worlds in general

2) Soundtrack wise is top notch.

3) Gameplay is great but again nothing we havent seen before , neither a revolution nor evolution. Its great though

4) Thats something really subjective. Its IF you like the boss fights and IF you find different builds fun. Imho what is way more important for replay values in these kind of genres are things like Resident Evil 2 did , after finish once the game you unlock a spin off of story with different scenario and different approach to the whole game from scratch. Thats what i call great replay value and not just the different builds and fun bosses.

5) Well , top notch indeed. Nuff said

6) Even if its multiplayer is kinda fun i wouldnt say is Bloodbornes strongest aspect. Yes it adds value and yes is great but not THAT great in order to call it greatest ever.

Either way Bloodborne is a great game and will be remembered for years to come. Time will tell if will remain as one of the greatest or will vanish like so many other AAA games did before it.

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#32  Edited By silversix_
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@mems_1224 said:
@silversix_ said:
@mems_1224 said:

Sure, if you're a garbage person that likes trash games.

Are you describing your taste? Damn you garbage people.

Nah, I don't like Bloodborne. Your comeback is weak as ****

Come back to what? lol you garbage ass people.

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#33 mems_1224
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@silversix_ said:
@mems_1224 said:
@silversix_ said:
@mems_1224 said:

Sure, if you're a garbage person that likes trash games.

Are you describing your taste? Damn you garbage people.

Nah, I don't like Bloodborne. Your comeback is weak as ****

Come back to what? lol you garbage ass people.

well, at least everyone knows you're illiterate now

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@mems_1224 said:
@silversix_ said:
@mems_1224 said:
@silversix_ said:
@mems_1224 said:

Sure, if you're a garbage person that likes trash games.

Are you describing your taste? Damn you garbage people.

Nah, I don't like Bloodborne. Your comeback is weak as ****

Come back to what? lol you garbage ass people.

well, at least everyone knows you're illiterate now

I love it when you reply with rage, shows your passion for SW. Keep it up you garbage person.

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@silversix_ said:

I love it when you reply with rage, shows your passion for SW. Keep it up you garbage person.

???

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@mems_1224 said:
@silversix_ said:

I love it when you reply with rage, shows your passion for SW. Keep it up you garbage person.

???

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@XVision84:

no, go away xvision

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@Juub1990: Did he actually say that??

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@speedfreak48t5p said:

Hell no.

@Berserker1_5 said:

LMAO No

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It's amazing, no doubt but I'm not sure if I'd go that far.

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#42 Cheleman
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i got you mems

@SexyJazzCat said:

@Juub1990: Did he actually say that??

pls no bullying

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#43 Heil68
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Great game for sure, but it doesn't make my list, mainly for I dont care for that type of game. Didn't buy it or any of the souls games.

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#44  Edited By Juub1990
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@SexyJazzCat: Something stupid along those lines. He was also saying how much of a Mario 64 rip off Banjo Kazooie was. My guess is mems is under 18. He has no idea how games were before the 7th gen.

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@SexyJazzCat: Something stupid along those lines. He was also saying how much of a Mario 64 rip off Banjo Kazooie was. My guess is mems is under 18. He has no idea how games were before the 7th gen.

He started gaming with Halo. What would you expect from him?

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I can see it being on top 100 lists (or any of the other souls games for that matter). But I'm pretty confident it wouldn't be in the top 50, and I'm VERY confident it wouldn't be in the top 20.

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@mems_1224 said:

Sure, if you're a garbage person that likes trash games.

Mems, you're a rockets fan, what do you know?

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@Cheleman said:

@XVision84:

no, go away xvision

Don't tell me what to do Chele you cow :P.

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#49 Blabadon
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@speedfreak48t5p: why not?

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@XVision84 said:
@mems_1224 said:

Sure, if you're a garbage person that likes trash games.

Mems, you're a rockets fan, what do you know?

Yup, and as a fan of all Houston teams I, more than anyone else except @Blabadon, know what trash looks like.