inFAMOUS: Second Son - Downgraded

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#1 Edited by FreedomFreeLife (2501 posts) -

Older version had shadows, better textures. New version is just brighter, no shadows and lower textures.

Don´t say just because there is sun there is no shadows anymore of that. Look at cop clothes... shadows... no shadows anymore.

#2 Edited by groowagon (2816 posts) -

hmmm... that is actually some qenuine bullshit right there. troublesome trend indeed.

same thing with Dark Souls 2, although on last gen consoles.

#3 Posted by CloudStrife213 (430 posts) -

The game must have been showcased using a PC during E3.

#4 Posted by PinkieWinkie (1362 posts) -

http://www.dualshockers.com/2014/03/13/229-infamous-second-son-leaked-screenshots-show-amazing-graphics-and-uncharted-like-platforming/

"Downgraded" yes still better looking then anything shown on XBone.

#5 Posted by LegatoSkyheart (25512 posts) -

Downgrading. Next Generation Bullshots.

Guess this generation really is just Gen 7.5.

#6 Posted by GrenadeLauncher (5071 posts) -

"Downgraded" = time of day changed leading to different lighting effects.

FreedomFromFacts topic, mods please lock.

#7 Edited by Innovazero2000 (3144 posts) -

@PinkieWinkie said:

http://www.dualshockers.com/2014/03/13/229-infamous-second-son-leaked-screenshots-show-amazing-graphics-and-uncharted-like-platforming/

"Downgraded" yes still better looking then anything shown on XBone.

No it does not... sorry. I'm sure it will be a very good game. It still looks good!

#8 Edited by kinectthedots (1998 posts) -

And yet Infamous Second Son is the best looking current generation game available for any console and it is an open world game too boot

Lems are DONE.

#9 Posted by TheTruthIsREAL (761 posts) -

It's not huge a downgrade like titanfall. 1080p to 792p lolol

#10 Posted by groowagon (2816 posts) -

@PinkieWinkie said:

http://www.dualshockers.com/2014/03/13/229-infamous-second-son-leaked-screenshots-show-amazing-graphics-and-uncharted-like-platforming/

"Downgraded" yes still better looking then anything shown on XBone.

that's not the point goddammit! the point is that this is an actual bullshit trend in the game industry!

#11 Posted by Lulu_Lulu (13589 posts) -

Allright Graphics Whores. Move along. Nothing to see hear

#12 Edited by Boddicker (2783 posts) -

I think "downgraded" was word you were looking for, not "dumbed down" which implies simplified gameplay over its predecessors.

#13 Posted by Chutebox (37345 posts) -

Just cut scenes? Game play that was recently shown still looks sexy, so I don't care

#14 Posted by MonsieurX (30407 posts) -

I hear the cow stampede coming

#15 Posted by musicalmac (23030 posts) -

Over-promise and under-deliver. That's the motto of the foolish.

#16 Edited by Innovazero2000 (3144 posts) -

@kinectthedots said:

And yet Infamous Second Son is the best looking current generation game available for any console and it is an open world game too boot

Lems are DONE.

According to whom? Best looking open world so far, sure...best looking? No... KZ and Ryse still take the cake. For all the crap Ryse took for a little resolution drop, that is a massive downgrade in lighting. I digress though, I won't judge until it is actually out.

#17 Posted by kinectthedots (1998 posts) -

@Chutebox said:

Just cut scenes? Game play that was recently shown still looks sexy, so I don't care

This is true,

The damage control by lemmings over Infamous Second Son is at critical levels

#18 Posted by hoyalawya (342 posts) -

I can smell steak cooking.

#19 Posted by LegatoSkyheart (25512 posts) -

@GrenadeLauncher said:

"Downgraded" = time of day changed leading to different lighting effects.

FreedomFromFacts topic, mods please lock.

Infamous Second Son has no Dynamic Day or Night Cycle.

#20 Posted by Cloud_imperium (3562 posts) -

Look at all these fanboys saying that it still looks better than this , better than that . No one is bashing your precious console , stop feeling so insecure about it . This thread is clearly pointing out that how devs lie to gamers or falsely advertise it . Instead of admitting that there is indeed a problem that needs to fixed , all you do is damage control and make it look worse .

#21 Edited by kinectthedots (1998 posts) -

@Innovazero2000 said:

@PinkieWinkie said:

http://www.dualshockers.com/2014/03/13/229-infamous-second-son-leaked-screenshots-show-amazing-graphics-and-uncharted-like-platforming/

"Downgraded" yes still better looking then anything shown on XBone.

No it does not... sorry. I'm sure it will be a very good game. It still looks good!

No, it does not what?

Are you challenging that fact that Infamous Second looks better than anything on shown on xbox one? If so lol please provide gameplay of something that looks better on xbox 1 so we all can see this mystery game that obviously no one else but you have seen.

#22 Posted by SolidGame_basic (17894 posts) -

do you honestly think people really care that much?

#23 Posted by happyduds77 (1472 posts) -

I can't see the "downgrade" apart from different lighting and objects. Uncompressed direct feed screenshot

#24 Posted by Lulu_Lulu (13589 posts) -

Whatever happens..... Uncharted will always be a steaming pile of sh!t.

#25 Posted by PinkieWinkie (1362 posts) -

@LegatoSkyheart: So it never crossed your mind the devs could have changed the time of day for that particular scene?

#26 Edited by groowagon (2816 posts) -

@kinectthedots said:

@Chutebox said:

Just cut scenes? Game play that was recently shown still looks sexy, so I don't care

This is true,

The damage control by lemmings over Infamous Second Son is at critical levels

YOU BLIND GODDAMN !"##&%""# SONS OF /#@¤&"/ :DDDD

it STILL LOOKS GOOD, YES, but it's the fact that bullshit like this is happening in the first place! it's not about console wars in this! happens accross platforms!

"it still looks good. i don't care". so you are bascily giving a permission for devs to bullshit you now and in the future. alright. i give up... what ever.

#27 Posted by blue_hazy_basic (27858 posts) -

Dear god TC change your topic title. Its a graphics downgrade (which almost always happens) from the bullshots which are used to hype and publicise a game and that fanboys always seem to buy hook, line and sinker. When you talk about a game being "dumbed down" it means the AI or UI rather than graphically.

#28 Posted by LegatoSkyheart (25512 posts) -

@PinkieWinkie: It crosses my Mind the developers downgraded the game because the system couldn't handle the lighting, textures, shadows, models, etc and keep a good frame rate.

Has nothing to do with just "changing the time of day." If you put the same scene it is now at the exact time of day it was at E3 2013 you would NOT magically get that E3 2013 demo.

#29 Posted by groowagon (2816 posts) -

@blue_hazy_basic said:

Dear god TC change your topic title. Its a graphics downgrade (which almost always happens) from the bullshots which are used to hype and publicise a game and that fanboys always seem to buy hook, line and sinker. When you talk about a game being "dumbed down" it means the AI or UI rather than graphically.

bullshots used to be more just resolution-enhacements... this is getting out of hands.

#30 Posted by PinkieWinkie (1362 posts) -

@groowagon: Because there was no downgrade. Watch the E3 video and the recently leaked vid.

#31 Posted by LegatoSkyheart (25512 posts) -

@groowagon said:

@blue_hazy_basic said:

Dear god TC change your topic title. Its a graphics downgrade (which almost always happens) from the bullshots which are used to hype and publicise a game and that fanboys always seem to buy hook, line and sinker. When you talk about a game being "dumbed down" it means the AI or UI rather than graphically.

bullshots used to be more just resolution-enhacements... this is getting out of hands.

well it's just more of gamers being more aware of what "Next-Gen" is capable of IE: What many of us were saying before Next Gen happened.

Graphics wouldn't change much, but the Resolution and Framerate will be better and so far that's exactly what we've been given.

#32 Posted by happyduds77 (1472 posts) -

@Lulu_Lulu said:

Whatever happens..... Uncharted will always be a steaming pile of sh!t.

What has Uncharted to do with this?

#33 Edited by Shewgenja (9591 posts) -

The lighting seems different. Is there a day/night cycle in this game?

#34 Posted by HadOne2Many (1279 posts) -

This is not the result of a "time of day" change. This is an obvious downgrade. Not surprised though, it happens all the time.

#35 Posted by groowagon (2816 posts) -

@PinkieWinkie said:

@groowagon: Because there was no downgrade. Watch the E3 video and the recently leaked vid.

i'm watcing those images right now. are they false then?

#36 Posted by Nightflash28 (2121 posts) -

"Dumbed down" doesn't mean what you think it means...

That being said, yes, that is quite a downgrade, especially the lighting. Never mind they changes the time of day for those cut scenes, the lighting behaves entirely different in those screenshots. Sad indeed.

Then again, the game still does look great while running. Looking forward to playing it nonetheless.

#37 Posted by blue_hazy_basic (27858 posts) -

@Shewgenja said:

The lighting seems different. Is there a day/night cycle in this game?

Don't quote me on this but I seem to remember locking a thread which said there wasn't :P

It all blurs together sometimes ... lol

#38 Edited by Lulu_Lulu (13589 posts) -

@ happyduds77

Nothing..... And Everything. Cue Ominous Music.

#39 Edited by megaspiderweb09 (3686 posts) -

I think we can see that the time of the day is different and perhaps that is for a different mood with different light angles. Even if it did get downgraded, it still looks top notch no?

#40 Posted by blue_hazy_basic (27858 posts) -

@groowagon said:

@blue_hazy_basic said:

Dear god TC change your topic title. Its a graphics downgrade (which almost always happens) from the bullshots which are used to hype and publicise a game and that fanboys always seem to buy hook, line and sinker. When you talk about a game being "dumbed down" it means the AI or UI rather than graphically.

bullshots used to be more just resolution-enhacements... this is getting out of hands.

I remember killzone having a company mock up an entire fake video for E3, halo (i think it was 3?) did the same thing for its launch announcement trailer. Its the new norm in today's videogame marketplace.

#41 Edited by kinectthedots (1998 posts) -

@Innovazero2000 said:

@kinectthedots said:

And yet Infamous Second Son is the best looking current generation game available for any console and it is an open world game too boot

Lems are DONE.

According to whom? Best looking open world so far, sure...best looking? No... KZ and Ryse still take the cake. For all the crap Ryse took for a little resolution drop, that is a massive downgrade in lighting. I digress though, I won't judge until it is actually out.

You have GOT to be kidding KZ and Ryse look like second grade grabage next to Infamous.

Yes you need to digress because your, According to whom, comment would also apply to you when making your opinion heard. I am sure if we had a poll here on GS between the best looking console games so far Infamous Second Son would win hanidly, it is infact an open world game, that said it still looks better than everything else.

No pre-rendered cut sceen BS to hide behind.

This is Ryse, a 900p resolution, small closed area game with lots of pre-rendered cutscenes, quick time events and a frame rate that drops to 14fps.

and this is Infamous Second Son, 1080p large open sanbox world game with real world permanent real time destruction and amazing particle effects.

#42 Posted by tymeservesfate (1938 posts) -

@FreedomFreeLife said:

Older version had shadows, better textures. New version is just brighter, no shadows and lower textures.

Don´t say just because there is sun there is no shadows anymore of that. Look at cop clothes... shadows... no shadows anymore.

wow...the downgrade is obvious as it can get. cows...KILLZONED....again, smh.

#43 Posted by Chutebox (37345 posts) -

@tymeservesfate: Sure...anywho, I hate you for quoting the whole thing. Cut the damn gifs out of your quote!

#44 Posted by kinectthedots (1998 posts) -

Infamous Second Son Graphics are the real deal, xbox one fanboy damage control is at an all time high and passing critical levels

Lems are DONE!

#45 Edited by Snugenz (11889 posts) -

Pretty obvious downgrade, but only the fanboys will be surprised by it i'd imagine.

Lol @kinectthedots having a meltdown in this thread though.

#46 Edited by FreedomFreeLife (2501 posts) -

#47 Posted by Shewgenja (9591 posts) -

@blue_hazy_basic said:

@Shewgenja said:

The lighting seems different. Is there a day/night cycle in this game?

Don't quote me on this but I seem to remember locking a thread which said there wasn't :P

It all blurs together sometimes ... lol

Ahh. Yeah, that would be a bum deal then. The textures seem more or less the same but the lighting definitely took a hit and possibly a few lines of res/AA change.

#48 Edited by kinectthedots (1998 posts) -

@Snugenz said:

Pretty obvious downgrade, but only the fanboys will be surprised by it i'd imagine.

Lol @kinectthedots having a meltdown in this thread though.

I posted a video fool, stop reaching. There is no downgrade to be seen in the game when it's actually in front of you being plaed. These screens are obviously tampered with.

I mean Infamous Second Son is a 1080p game and as crisp as a fresh baked apple pie so why are all the TC's alternate screens so blurry looking? It doesn't add up when none of the other pictures resemble the actual game, looking at other pictures, video *I posted* or any gifs of the actual gameplay.

Stop acting like a dumbass just because Infamous Second Son isn't available on your PC or xbox360. The pic I posted of Infamous is NEW and looks nothing like the alternate pics the TC post but rather like the originals.

#49 Posted by kinectthedots (1998 posts) -

@FreedomFreeLife said:

Older version had shadows, better textures. New version is just brighter, no shadows and lower textures.

Don´t say just because there is sun there is no shadows anymore of that. Look at cop clothes... shadows... no shadows anymore.

This is a new pic of Infamous Second Son

Surprise..it looks exactly like the E3 2013 which you say was downgraded.

Thread fail, lock and ban TC

#50 Edited by misterpmedia (3468 posts) -

@kinectthedots said:

And yet Infamous Second Son is the best looking current generation game available for any console and it is an open world game too boot

Lems are DONE.

I guess next generation bullshots remain. I admit devs should stop doing this. But if the game still looks like that gif then I'm more than fine with it. It think by now it's probably to take any game that's shown at E3 or similar events with salty side dishes.