Incredible TLOU Remake Part 1 PC analysis. A technical breakdown that serves to educate as well as disect

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#1  Edited By above_average
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Everyone is aware of the issues PC has encounter with this PS5 port to PC, but to simply say, "bad port" is the easy conclusion to make. The port effort did play a part, but it's not the whole story and to assume "more powerful hardware should make it run better" is also ignorant and exposes a lack of technical knowledge.

This analysis not only serves to explain what's happening with this game on PC, but also goes on to explain to why issues are seen and what systems in place are causing it to be as heavy as it is. Few people here have real technical understanding of how coding, hardware differences and development works, this will help to enlighten those who wish to learn.

  • *If you have the hardware, PC can scale above the PS5, just don't simply rely on a more powerful GPU
  • The game is very data driven and has a heavy reliance on CPU, VRAM and System RAM on PC
  • 12GB VRAM cards are still likely worse than PS5 version, 16GB of VRAM will be required to match or exceed native PS5 title performance here and the future.
  • To run maxed on PC it's recommended to have 32GB of system RAM and 16GB of VRAM
  • 2070 super PC setups can not be able to match PS5 performance or graphics settings
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#2 Fedor
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Already a thread about this broken port.

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#3 Last_Lap
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I think the biggest issue with this game is that Sony are remaking a game that has already had a remaster of the original game and selling it at full price.

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#4  Edited By above_average
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@fedor said:

Already a thread about this broken port.

There is NOT a thread with an actual *analysis of this game for PC. Stop posting nonsense

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#5 hardwenzen
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wow my ps5 is stronger than i could've even imagined.

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#6 above_average
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@last_lap said:

I think the biggest issue with this game is that Sony are remaking a game that has already had a remaster of the original game and selling it at full price.

I don't agree with that as well. For people who never played the game before however, they can't really complain because it's essentially a new experience for them, specifically the PC market, for PS5 however, the game should have launched cheaper $40 max IMO

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#7  Edited By above_average
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@hardwenzen said:

wow my ps5 is stronger than i could've even imagined.

When you hear from someone who actually knows what they're talking about (NXG is actually a senior advanced engineer) unlike these self proclaimed tech experts here on SW, you'll find that more goes into developing games than simply the Tflops of a GPU.

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#8 DaVillain  Moderator
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Come on, not this crap again🤦🏻‍♂️

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#9 above_average
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@davillain said:

Come on, not this crap again🤦🏻‍♂️

WTF is wrong with you?

NXG is definitely smarter and more educated than everyone here on this board when it comes to tech and hardware. Much more knowledgeable than you.

What exactly is this "crap" you're talking about?

FYI: not wanting to listen to something that doesn't fit your personal preference doesn't make it "crap".

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#11 hardwenzen
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@davillain said:

Come on, not this crap again🤦🏻‍♂️

Bro you're just mad cuz my ps5 is destroying your 3070ti.

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#12 Silentchief
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Herms get butthurt when you show the older cards can't compete with the consoles. This happens every generation though and every generation they get angry.

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#13 Fedor
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@above_average: Nobody cares what NXgamer thinks.

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@above_average said:
@last_lap said:

I think the biggest issue with this game is that Sony are remaking a game that has already had a remaster of the original game and selling it at full price.

I don't agree with that as well. For people who never played the game before however, they can't really complain because it's essentially a new experience for them, specifically the PC market, for PS5 however, the game should have launched cheaper $40 max IMO

The problem is that ND spent how many years "remaking" this game for the PS5 when they could have been making a new game, would you rather play this game again or a new game?

Sony following R* BS practices with the likes of what they did with GTA 5 is just bad for gaming, but in the end its gamers fault for rebuying the same game over & over, let's be honest gamers are thicker than a brick wall.

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#15 above_average
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@Pedro said:
@above_average said:
@davillain said:

Come on, not this crap again🤦🏻‍♂️

WTF is wrong with you?

NXG is definitely smarter and more educated than everyone here on this board when it comes to tech and hardware. Much more knowledgeable than you.

What exactly is this "crap" you're talking about?

FYI: not wanting to listen to something that doesn't fit your personal preference doesn't make it "crap".

Outside of sounding like a butthurt idiot you believe in secret sauce.😂

You keep referring to me as "idiot". You might want to calm TF down.

You've never won a debate against me nor were you ever proven right in any argument you decided to try to put together.

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#16 above_average
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@fedor said:

@above_average: Nobody cares what NXgamer thinks.

10's of thousands of people watch and reference his videos for breakdowns of games this generation.

You, on the other hand, are literally a "nobody" when it comes to people caring what you think about game technology and technical comparisons.

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#17  Edited By Fedor
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@above_average: Naw, nobody cares what he thinks. OC's a 2070 and calls it a 2070s, hilarious. Games broken, its a terrible port, ND has already admitted it. Been talked to death already.

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Wow! Incredible! Words can’t describe how absolutely incredible this is!

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@silentchief said:

Herms get butthurt when you show the older cards can't compete with the consoles. This happens every generation though and every generation they get angry.

How much older? What GPU do you think the PS5 is comparable to?

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@above_average said:

You keep referring to me as "idiot". You might want to calm TF down.

You've never won a debate against me nor were you ever proven right in any argument you decided to try to put together.

You think that you have/had a point worth being proven incorrect?😂

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#21 NfamousLegend
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There is good reason I have 32GB of ram and a gpu with 24GB of Vram. People who bought a 4070 ti will have serious regrets not long from now lol

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@Pedro said:
@above_average said:

You keep referring to me as "idiot". You might want to calm TF down.

You've never won a debate against me nor were you ever proven right in any argument you decided to try to put together.

You think that you have/had a point worth being proven incorrect?😂

I have yet to see Pedro be right about something. He has the witty exterior that falls apart as soon as any specifics to an argument come up. It works on the simpleminded, but fails to sway any narrative. I think that’s why he posts so much. When you lack quality, go with quantity…

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@hardwenzen said:
@davillain said:

Come on, not this crap again🤦🏻‍♂️

Bro you're just mad cuz my ps5 is destroying your 3070ti.

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Yeah, definitely a bad port.

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#25  Edited By Zaryia
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TC already made a thread on this,

Digital Foundry The Last of Us Part 1 PS5 vs PC: Alex Battaglia's tears - System Wars - GameSpot

He's upset he has to play the choppy and low setting version of most games this gen on his garbage PS5 so, he latches on to a handful of bad ports caused by Sony's incompetence like this.

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#26 BassMan
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@kathaariancode said:

Yeah, definitely a bad port.

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#27 LAtech84
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@zaryia said:

TC already made a thread on this,

Digital Foundry The Last of Us Part 1 PS5 vs PC: Alex Battaglia's tears - System Wars - GameSpot

He's upset he has to play the choppy and low setting version of most games this gen so latches on to a handful of bad ports caused by Sony's incompetence like this.

Yes exactly and a 3070 Ti PC destroys a PS5 in most games.

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#28 PCLover1980
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Holding on to a tiny win doesn't make the PS5 a much more superior product than actual high end GPUs lol

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#29  Edited By ClockWorkBanana  Online
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The game uses 5GB of VRAM at 360p low settings. It's a shit port. Ofcourse the Playstation fanboys over at IGN will defend it. You can break down any bad port like this and explain it away with nonsense like:

  • The game is very data driven and has a heavy reliance on CPU, VRAM and System RAM on PC"

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#30 R4gn4r0k
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IGN is clueless and even defends a shitty port like this reserving a blanket amount of VRAM that scales with your total VRAM.

I never have any programs open during gaming. At most I have steam open.

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#31 Silentchief
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@latech84 said:
@silentchief said:

Herms get butthurt when you show the older cards can't compete with the consoles. This happens every generation though and every generation they get angry.

How much older? What GPU do you think the PS5 is comparable to?

Well a 2060 Super was comparable on launch titles then you needed a 2070 super and now that isn't cutting it on newer games.

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#32 SecretPolice
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lol :P

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@ghostofgolden said:

I have yet to see Pedro be right about something. He has the witty exterior that falls apart as soon as any specifics to an argument come up. It works on the simpleminded, but fails to sway any narrative. I think that’s why he posts so much. When you lack quality, go with quantity…

Then you have been on the receiving end of being corrected by me like the OP, so I understand why you needed a new account to hide the shame.😂

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#34 KvallyX
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@ghostofgolden said:
@Pedro said:
@above_average said:

You keep referring to me as "idiot". You might want to calm TF down.

You've never won a debate against me nor were you ever proven right in any argument you decided to try to put together.

You think that you have/had a point worth being proven incorrect?😂

I have yet to see Pedro be right about something. He has the witty exterior that falls apart as soon as any specifics to an argument come up. It works on the simpleminded, but fails to sway any narrative. I think that’s why he posts so much. When you lack quality, go with quantity…

And then here you go resorting to lies, and posting under alts.....

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#35 PC_Rocks
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After Mark Cerny's Chief System Architect and now we have NXCow is an Senior Advanced Engineer - whatever that means BTW.

Poor boxy, can't get to terms with the incompetence of ND and PS5 2060ish specs.