Im really confused about the lair reviews...

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#1 Stealth-Hawk
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Ok, so EGM gave LAIR 5-6. Which basically ends up being a 50-60% score. However, Play magazine gave LAIR a 90%.

EGM basically complained about the sixaxis controller while Play magazine praised the game for its graphics, music, gameplay, and made a small mention that the controls take some getting USED to.

I remember when EGM gave The Darkness a 6 because "I was annoyed with finding the signs in the street". Is it possible that EGM were just too lazy to figure out the controls, got frusterated, and therefore gave the game a bad review?

I just dont understand how Play can give it a 90%, and its been praised by gaming websites for being "epic" in their previews with a EGM score like that. Heck, even 1up (part EGM) praised it in their preview for being epic.

*Discuss*

PS - Noone but that single person has seen the EGM scores, which I find a bit strange.

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#2 Kinitari
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Controls seem to be making or breaking this game - some people love it, and some people hate it... I have a feeling this is going to be a 'love it or hate it' game in general. Making reviews even more pointless.
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#3 -Ninja_Dog-
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Its fake.

They never show the Bioshock score when they give the different scores and stuff.

So I call fake.

Lair prably gets 8.5 all around

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#4 Kinitari
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Its fake.

They never show the Bioshock score when they give the different scores and stuff.

So I call fake.

Lair prably gets 8.5 all around

-Ninja_Dog-


Are you sure bioshock was supposed to be this month?... Well I guess if it wasn't this month, it would be like 2 weeks late.
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Controls seem to be making or breaking this game - some people love it, and some people hate it... I have a feeling this is going to be a 'love it or hate it' game in general. Making reviews even more pointless.Kinitari

Again not sureif this is real but they should give you the option as to how you can control your dragon and stuff.

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#6 deathtrap90
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Gamepro gave it a 3.75/5 for the controls as well,so its not just EGM.
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#7 -Ninja_Dog-
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[QUOTE="-Ninja_Dog-"]

Its fake.

They never show the Bioshock score when they give the different scores and stuff.

So I call fake.

Lair prably gets 8.5 all around

Kinitari



Are you sure bioshock was supposed to be this month?... Well I guess if it wasn't this month, it would be like 2 weeks late.

Yeah I have the August issue right here and on page 97 It states Bioshock review along with Blue Dragon, Lair ,Madden and Stuntman Ignition.

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why people are making a big deal about this.for me the game looks horrible but if it is appealing to you just go and get it.dont rely on reviews that will influence the decision of playing a game or not
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[QUOTE="Kinitari"][QUOTE="-Ninja_Dog-"]

Its fake.

They never show the Bioshock score when they give the different scores and stuff.

So I call fake.

Lair prably gets 8.5 all around

-Ninja_Dog-



Are you sure bioshock was supposed to be this month?... Well I guess if it wasn't this month, it would be like 2 weeks late.

Yeah I have the August issue right here and on page 97 It states Bioshock review along with Blue Dragon, Lair ,Madden and Stuntman Ignition.

yah and those reviews at neogaf forum showed no scans. hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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#10 -Ninja_Dog-
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They say "Our review crew will also tell you if bucking-dragon adventure Lair for the PS3 soars or spirals out of waggling control"

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#11 Kinitari
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[QUOTE="Kinitari"][QUOTE="-Ninja_Dog-"]

Its fake.

They never show the Bioshock score when they give the different scores and stuff.

So I call fake.

Lair prably gets 8.5 all around

-Ninja_Dog-



Are you sure bioshock was supposed to be this month?... Well I guess if it wasn't this month, it would be like 2 weeks late.

Yeah I have the August issue right here and on page 97 It states Bioshock review along with Blue Dragon, Lair ,Madden and Stuntman Ignition.



Then thats weird =/ well im not going to jump on the 'its a fake' bandwagon yet.
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#12 kcm_117
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well play gave sonic on the xbox 360 an 85%.....i dont trust them
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well play gave sonic on the xbox 360 an 85%.....i dont trust themkcm_117

True, but to be fair, Lair review had a different person than Sonic.

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Ok, so EGM gave LAIR 5-6. Which basically ends up being a 50-60% score. However, Play magazine gave LAIR a 90%.

EGM basically complained about the sixaxis controller while Play magazine praised the game for its graphics, music, gameplay, and made a small mention that the controls take some getting USED to.

I remember when EGM gave The Darkness a 6 because "I was annoyed with finding the signs in the street". Is it possible that EGM were just too lazy to figure out the controls, got frusterated, and therefore gave the game a bad review?

I just dont understand how Play can give it a 90%, and its been praised by gaming websites for being "epic" in their previews with a EGM score like that. Heck, even 1up (part EGM) praised it in their preview for being epic.

*Discuss*

PS - Noone but that single person has seen the EGM scores, which I find a bit strange.

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I don't trust play mag reviews. that mag also praised spartna total warrior fo rit's sweet graphics and varied gamepley. I have that game and the graphics stink and the gameplay ain't varied
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#15 Limbutus
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if you ask me it'll get a 6 or 7

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I agree with EGM's reviews most of the time. I wasn't ever excited about Lair anyways. Cows, prepare for HUGE FLOPPAGE once Gamespot reviews Lair. :)
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I agree with EGM's reviews most of the time. I wasn't ever excited about Lair anyways. Cows, prepare for HUGE FLOPPAGE once Gamespot reviews Lair. :) majadamus

floppage yes but HUGE FLOPPAGE ?

:lol:

this is not MGS4 or KZ2

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GS is the one that matters
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[QUOTE="kcm_117"]well play gave sonic on the xbox 360 an 85%.....i dont trust themStealth-Hawk

True, but to be fair, Lair review had a different person than Sonic.

But you just said

"I remember when EGM gave The Darkness a 6 because "I was annoyed with finding the signs in the street". Is it possible that EGM were just too lazy to figure out the controls, got frusterated, and therefore gave the game a bad review?"

without bothering to find out if that was reviewed by a different person. They rated The Darkness 8/10 btw, not 6. One of the reviewers gave it a 6.5 and did complain about ridiculous stuff like that. Michael. He did not review Lair.

As far as I'm concerned Play is the less credible of the two. They gave vampire Rain JPN a 7.5 and the US version a 6... They gave Sonic who knows what and then revised it to 8.5 cause they discovered it had long load times after they had published the review... It's not just about the ridiculously high score.

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Ok, so EGM gave LAIR 5-6. Which basically ends up being a 50-60% score. However, Play magazine gave LAIR a 90%.

EGM basically complained about the sixaxis controller while Play magazine praised the game for its graphics, music, gameplay, and made a small mention that the controls take some getting USED to.

I remember when EGM gave The Darkness a 6 because "I was annoyed with finding the signs in the street". Is it possible that EGM were just too lazy to figure out the controls, got frusterated, and therefore gave the game a bad review?

I just dont understand how Play can give it a 90%, and its been praised by gaming websites for being "epic" in their previews with a EGM score like that. Heck, even 1up (part EGM) praised it in their preview for being epic.

*Discuss*

PS - Noone but that single person has seen the EGM scores, which I find a bit strange.

Stealth-Hawk

I can't vouch for the authenticity of the EGM scores but I will tell you this:

PLAY MAGAZINE BLOWS. They always overrate games. If it was anymore unreadable than it is now it would be called Gamepro.

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[QUOTE="majadamus"]I agree with EGM's reviews most of the time. I wasn't ever excited about Lair anyways. Cows, prepare for HUGE FLOPPAGE once Gamespot reviews Lair. :) Limbutus

floppage yes but HUGE FLOPPAGE ?

:lol:

this is not MGS4 or KZ2

Lair Flopping will be a huge deal. It was heavily hyped when it was introduced and it is one of the PS3's most anticipated titles.
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its just like the SSX Blur reviews for Wii -- it got mixed reviews. I say try the game out for yourself, and decide if you want it (Rent it is what i mean, if u like, buy it)
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#23 ragrdoll21
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Gamepro gave it a 3.75/5 for the controls as well,so its not just EGM.deathtrap90
We don't speak of "gamePRO" here!:P
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#24 ragrdoll21
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[QUOTE="Limbutus"]

[QUOTE="majadamus"]I agree with EGM's reviews most of the time. I wasn't ever excited about Lair anyways. Cows, prepare for HUGE FLOPPAGE once Gamespot reviews Lair. :) heretrix

floppage yes but HUGE FLOPPAGE ?

:lol:

this is not MGS4 or KZ2

Lair Flopping will be a huge deal. It was heavily hyped when it was introduced and it is one of the PS3's most anticipated titles.

It has a AA hype...MGS4 is at AAA .
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[QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="Limbutus"]

[QUOTE="majadamus"]I agree with EGM's reviews most of the time. I wasn't ever excited about Lair anyways. Cows, prepare for HUGE FLOPPAGE once Gamespot reviews Lair. :) ragrdoll21

floppage yes but HUGE FLOPPAGE ?

:lol:

this is not MGS4 or KZ2

Lair Flopping will be a huge deal. It was heavily hyped when it was introduced and it is one of the PS3's most anticipated titles.

It has a AA hype...MGS4 is at AAA .

Point being is that its one of the PS3's most anticpated titles of 2007, even if its hyped AA.

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#26 aznfool07
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[QUOTE="ragrdoll21"][QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="Limbutus"]

[QUOTE="majadamus"]I agree with EGM's reviews most of the time. I wasn't ever excited about Lair anyways. Cows, prepare for HUGE FLOPPAGE once Gamespot reviews Lair. :) Haziqonfire

floppage yes but HUGE FLOPPAGE ?

:lol:

this is not MGS4 or KZ2

Lair Flopping will be a huge deal. It was heavily hyped when it was introduced and it is one of the PS3's most anticipated titles.

It has a AA hype...MGS4 is at AAA .

Point being is that its one of the PS3's most anticpated titles of 2007, even if its hyped AA.

You have to admit the hype for Lair kind of died down. You don't see "ZOMG LAIR" posts anymore.

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EGM is a tough cookie to crack. They are less forgiving of a games faults.

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#28 Bread_or_Decide
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[QUOTE="ragrdoll21"][QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="Limbutus"]

[QUOTE="majadamus"]I agree with EGM's reviews most of the time. I wasn't ever excited about Lair anyways. Cows, prepare for HUGE FLOPPAGE once Gamespot reviews Lair. :) Haziqonfire

floppage yes but HUGE FLOPPAGE ?

:lol:

this is not MGS4 or KZ2

Lair Flopping will be a huge deal. It was heavily hyped when it was introduced and it is one of the PS3's most anticipated titles.

It has a AA hype...MGS4 is at AAA .

Point being is that its one of the PS3's most anticpated titles of 2007, even if its hyped AA.

It is. Anyone that says different is in denial.

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its just like the SSX Blur reviews for Wii -- it got mixed reviews. I say try the game out for yourself, and decide if you want it (Rent it is what i mean, if u like, buy it)Haziqonfire

Wow awii ownerextending the olive branchto a flop PS3 game? Thats gotta be a system wars first.

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EGM is a tough cookie to crack. They are less forgiving of a games faults.

Bread_or_Decide

EGM knows good games.

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#31 Smoke_ManMuscle
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It's Factor 5, people. They make pretty games, not games with deep gameplay. It's not surprising that their game flopped.
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#32 Bread_or_Decide
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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

EGM is a tough cookie to crack. They are less forgiving of a games faults.

majadamus

EGM knows good games.

Until they flop a game on your favorite console.

:lol:

I enjoy their extremely high standards. I mean someones gotta do the dirty work but to only read EGM would also be a mistake. They hated Killzone Liberation, others didn't, I loved it. So ya just gotta remember not to take them as scripture all of the time.

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Where is the proof of the EGM review people???

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well play gave sonic on the xbox 360 an 85%.....i dont trust themkcm_117

It was 95% actually.

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Reviews are by nature, arbitrary. That's why I usually wait for the GS review because I like their standards.