IGN Xbox crew damage controls 1080p

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#1 Posted by NoodleFighter (6963 posts) -

The face palms

#2 Posted by no-scope-AK47 (2683 posts) -

Most people tv's are not calibrated and in poor lighting areas in random setting distances. The quality of the display needs to also be factored in. All 1080p sets are not the same. That said all thing being equal a person with 20/20 should be able to tell 1080p from 720p.

#3 Posted by Chutebox (36446 posts) -

Wow

#4 Posted by ActicEdge (24332 posts) -

The average person who picks up a game and pops in the disk probably doesn't even have much of a grasp on resolution tbh. That said, I can certainly tell and this is just straight up false. But you know, the X1 wouldn't have trouble rendering in 1080p if they turned down all the shit blur, post processing effect and didn't aim for games that look pretty in stills but run like a fucking slide show AKA the 7th generation of gaming.

#5 Edited by CrashNBurn281 (391 posts) -

Sigh. This is serious denial. 720p doesn't look horrible, but it can easily be distinguished from 1080p if you do not have cataracts.

#6 Posted by tyloss (829 posts) -

You'd think these people would be knowledgable on the products that keeps them to have a job.

#7 Posted by no-scope-AK47 (2683 posts) -

720p upconverted looks soft vs a native 1080p signal on my display. Rez is not everything a calibrated 720p plasma is going to look better than your walmart special 1080p hdtv. At the ces 1080p oled tv looked better than the 4k sets on display IMO.

Still this is a op to downplay the advantage of the ps4 over the x1 this entire console gen. If you repeat a lie often and long enough most people will accept it as fact.

#8 Edited by metal_zombie (2286 posts) -

I had 720 monitor 22 inches when i switch to a 1080 one the difference was night and day what are these fools talking about

#9 Posted by MightyMuna (1732 posts) -

Please IGN, speak for yourselves. Stop generalising. Also consult your optometrist as quickly as possible.

#10 Edited by GrenadeLauncher (3715 posts) -

Paid professionals.

#11 Edited by ActicEdge (24332 posts) -

Paid professionals.

The only terrible tweet here is the last one. The first 2 aren't offensive to people are they? I sorta do agree that us forum dweller do enjoy shitting on products in our hobby really often. I know I do :(

#12 Posted by millerlight89 (18346 posts) -

@GrenadeLauncher said:

Paid professionals.

The only terrible tweet here is the last one. The first 2 aren't offensive to people are they? I sorta do agree that us forum dweller do enjoy shitting on products in our hobby really often. I know I do :(

The first one strikes me as more proof they need to nerf that damn gun. It's kind of sad really. It's basically like having an aim bot.

#13 Edited by Gaming-Planet (13887 posts) -

Can't spell ignorant without IGN.

#14 Edited by R3FURBISHED (10203 posts) -

I can't tell the difference between 30/60 FPS or 720/1080p ...they're all just numbers to me.

#15 Posted by millerlight89 (18346 posts) -

I can't tell the difference between 30/60 FPS or 720/1080p ...they're all just numbers to me.

I guess you're lucky. It's quit noticeable.

#16 Edited by navyguy21 (12727 posts) -

1080p > upscaled 720p > 720p, no matter how you slice it.

Also, back when i had a 40in TV i could still tell the difference between them, doesnt have to be 50in.

Of course all of my TVs are calibrated properly with a super high contrast ratio.

Those crappy 2000:1 walmart TVs cant display the difference.

#17 Edited by Gue1 (9418 posts) -

@no-scope-AK47 said:

720p upconverted looks soft vs a native 1080p signal on my display. Rez is not everything a calibrated 720p plasma is going to look better than your walmart special 1080p hdtv. At the ces 1080p oled tv looked better than the 4k sets on display IMO.

Still this is a op to downplay the advantage of the ps4 over the x1 this entire console gen. If you repeat a lie often and long enough most people will accept it as fact.

TV's these days have such wide amount of native contrast that calibration is irrelevant. That was only needed back in the day around 2005-2010 when LCD's and Plasmas were highly dependent on dynamic contrast to trick people into thinking that it looked good. They still do it with the cheap ones though.

#18 Posted by R3FURBISHED (10203 posts) -

@R3FURBISHED said:

I can't tell the difference between 30/60 FPS or 720/1080p ...they're all just numbers to me.

I guess you're lucky. It's quit noticeable.

I guess, cause for me being ~10ft away from my TV I don't notice framerate or resolution unless they are very bad.

#19 Edited by StrongBlackVine (8418 posts) -

IGN should be embarrassed to even allow that video to stay up. It has an overwhelming number of dislikes on YouTube so they are not fooling their audience.

You do not need a 50" TV to tell the difference. Also telling people to "suck it" shows how unprofessional those losers are. And they all look like dorks.

#20 Edited by I_can_haz (6551 posts) -

I wonder how much MS paid these guys for this shitty PR piece.

#21 Edited by no-scope-AK47 (2683 posts) -

@Gue1 said:

@no-scope-AK47 said:

720p upconverted looks soft vs a native 1080p signal on my display. Rez is not everything a calibrated 720p plasma is going to look better than your walmart special 1080p hdtv. At the ces 1080p oled tv looked better than the 4k sets on display IMO.

Still this is a op to downplay the advantage of the ps4 over the x1 this entire console gen. If you repeat a lie often and long enough most people will accept it as fact.

TV's these days have such wide amount of native contrast that calibration is irrelevant. That was only needed back in the day around 2005-2010 when LCD's and Plasmas were highly dependent on dynamic contrast to trick people into thinking that it looked good. They still do it with the cheap ones though.

It just makes things easier but I have yet to own a tv that was perfect out the box. Even the movie mode usually the best mode needs to be tweaked.

#22 Posted by NeverMore0 (974 posts) -

The bulb in my 1080p projector exploded today, so I hooked up my old 720p one while I wait for the replacement lamp to be shipped. The difference was immediately obvious. Even though the old one was brighter (because the bulb had fewer hours on it), it was clearly not as sharp a picture. And we're talking the same brand, same model projector, just one's the newer version.

#23 Posted by kuu2 (6886 posts) -

Cows mooing away in this thread. Awesome to see the meltdowns over something so trivial......

#24 Posted by jeffmonster (511 posts) -

Xbox One is great. The end. That's all that really matters ain't it?

#25 Posted by jeffmonster (511 posts) -

The beauty of Sony fanatics is - they don't let a little thing like scientific facts get in the way of their internet rage. Good job fellas.

#26 Posted by lamprey263 (22818 posts) -

I think it's counter productive to gaming to focus on everything achieving 1080p, I much rather them use the extra power in the PS4 over the X1 to achieve other graphical advantages, like superior lighting/shadow or physics effects, particles, or destructible environments. I don't argue 1080p looks better than 720p, but I question whether that benefit outweighs other potential graphical advantages that might be achieved maybe using a lower resolution. I really have no idea to what extent that would be possible, but I feel we might never know if the community demands 1080p/60fps before everything else.

#27 Posted by no-scope-AK47 (2683 posts) -

@kuu2 said:

Cows mooing away in this thread. Awesome to see the meltdowns over something so trivial......

It's only trivial if your playing on a crappy display or have bad eyes. The part that really hurts is the ps4 is 100 bucks cheaper. So you save money and get better graphics. Unless you hate saving money and getting better graphics the ps4 is the best choice.

#28 Posted by PinkieWinkie (1364 posts) -

@jeffmonster: exactly what scientific fact are you referring to?

#29 Edited by silversix_ (13912 posts) -

"Ryse is the best looking console game available on the market"

#30 Edited by PrincessGomez92 (3367 posts) -

IGN is right.

#31 Posted by stereointegrity (10699 posts) -

i cant tell the difference

with my eyes closed

#33 Edited by _Matt_ (8837 posts) -

The difference between 720p and 1080p is night and day on my screens. IGN must sit a long way from their tvs...

#34 Posted by no-scope-AK47 (2683 posts) -

i cant tell the difference

with my eyes closed

Me either lmao

#35 Posted by JangoWuzHere (16021 posts) -

"Ryse is the best looking console game available on the market"

Most people think Ryse is the best looking next gen game so far. If you say it's ShadowFall, that would actually be laughable.

#36 Edited by ACP_45 (429 posts) -

720p 27 inch PC monitor will look better that any 40inch and higher 1080p screen.

Trust me. I couldn't believe my eyes....

#37 Posted by GrenadeLauncher (3715 posts) -

By the way, the next time some turd says there's no difference tell him to watch this then tell him to fuck off.

#38 Edited by ReadingRainbow4 (13122 posts) -

STAND FARTHER FROM THE TV AND IT'S THE SAME DIFFERENCE!

before 50 inches, WTF, this dude man... lmao

I've got a 37inch bravia and I can def tell the difference between 720p and 1080p.

#39 Posted by HitmanActual (318 posts) -

Those guys know that what they said is total bullshit, it's just they have their tongues stuck up MS's ass and are helping out with the epic damage control MS has had to do since the very first day they unveiled that piece of shit called Xbox One. Anyone with half a brain can tell the difference between 1080 and 720, and if you can't you have bad eyesight or a POS TV...or both.

#40 Edited by ActicEdge (24332 posts) -

@ActicEdge said:

@GrenadeLauncher said:

Paid professionals.

The only terrible tweet here is the last one. The first 2 aren't offensive to people are they? I sorta do agree that us forum dweller do enjoy shitting on products in our hobby really often. I know I do :(

The first one strikes me as more proof they need to nerf that damn gun. It's kind of sad really. It's basically like having an aim bot.

I haven't played the game but my bud loves that pistol lol.

#41 Posted by tacoma1972 (131 posts) -

What a joke. Yeah I can tell the difference. I play on 160" PTA 8000 projector. 720 looks like crap. I will be upgrading to a 4k projector within a year. Microsoft flopped with the xbox 720p.

#42 Posted by Basinboy (10985 posts) -

Try gaming on a 720p computer monitor compared to a 1080p montior. Then compare that to a 1440p and 4k monitor. Sub 30" and there is an obvious difference in quality.

Granted, the Unlocked crew is catering to their group - it's what they do, just like the Beyond does to theirs. Albeit Miller and Moriarty are genuinely more interesting to listen to and straightforward about who their broadcasts are targeting.

#43 Posted by ConanTheStoner (4536 posts) -

I wonder if these guys cracked up laughing after they shut the camera off. So much BS in that video, no way they were serious. If I made videos to troll gamers that's the kind of stuff I would say.

#44 Edited by PAL360 (26651 posts) -

Why are these guys holding down the industry? Not every game needs to be 1080p60, but it's the natural evolution.

Also the difference is pretty visible to me!

#45 Posted by betamaxx83 (351 posts) -

Microsoft and Lembots have practically been in damage control and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future.

#46 Posted by sakaiXx (51 posts) -

brace yourself xbots there's gonna be huge backlash there, Sony fans hunting like hungry beast looking for article like this.

#47 Edited by Doom_HellKnight (12191 posts) -

As far as sites that claims to hire professional journalists go, IGN is probably the least professional site out there.

#48 Edited by hoosier7 (3777 posts) -

TotalBiscuit sums up what i think of IGN in a recent video pretty well (13:00 onwards if the video doesn't start there). They might as well be a PR wing for some of these companies with the amount of promotional crap they come out with. Unboxings usually aren't the mark of a critique site.

Giantbomb FTW imo, only site i bother with these days.

#49 Posted by The_Last_Ride (69782 posts) -

I generally like those guys, but that is bs

#50 Posted by Sweenix (5396 posts) -

f*cking idiots