If You Do The Math, PS4 Is Outselling Xbox One 3:1

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#1 Edited by PinkiePirate (2086 posts) -

Xbox One Launch Territories/Population:

  1. Australia - 22.68M
  2. Austria - 8.46M
  3. Brazil - 198.7M
  4. Canada - 34.88M
  5. France - 65.7M
  6. Germany - 81.89M
  7. Ireland - 4.59M
  8. Italy - 60.92M
  9. Mexico - 112.3M
  10. Spain - 47.27M
  11. United Kingdom - 63.23M
  12. United States - 313.9M
  13. New Zealand - 4.43M

Total Population: 1 Billion+ (1,018,095,000)

Total Units Sold in First 24 Hrs.: 1,000,000

PS4 Launch Territories/Population:

  1. United States 313.9M
  2. Canada - 34.88M

Total Population: 348,780,000

Total Units Sold in First 24 Hrs.: 1,000,000+

Amount sold in 24hrs is about 1:1, so we take the ratio of the populations of the countries the console was available to on day one. 1,018.095M / 348.78M = 2.92.

#2 Edited by babycakin (1400 posts) -

Did you really research all these statistics or is this another make believe cow fantasy? All we know is the million mark for both consoles and PS4 yet to launch in other regions.

#3 Posted by freedomfreak (39206 posts) -

Joy oh joy

#4 Posted by lglz1337 (3136 posts) -

Did you really research all these statistics or is this another make believe cow fantasy? All we know is the million mark for both consoles and PS4 yet to launch in other regions.

and you think xbone has a chance in europe ? i laugh at you if you think so

#5 Posted by thedork_knight (866 posts) -

Wow just wow that's all i can say

#6 Edited by sts106mat (19030 posts) -

PS4 so good that you'd rather do maths than play games.. shocking.

#7 Posted by SinjinSmythe (789 posts) -

PS4 sales gonna fizzle out. Once the word hits jump street that there is little games, weak UI and crap network.

#8 Posted by PinkiePirate (2086 posts) -

Did you really research all these statistics or is this another make believe cow fantasy? All we know is the million mark for both consoles and PS4 yet to launch in other regions.

We know what countries the consoles launched in and we know the populations of these countries. Source: Google.

#9 Posted by groowagon (2761 posts) -

PS4 so good that you'd rather do maths than play games.. shocking.

that is seriously getting old. you can see that lems are spending their time here raging just as much.

#10 Edited by Snugenz (11818 posts) -

This is so sad. "Get a life" just doesn't cut it.

#11 Posted by babycakin (1400 posts) -

@lglz1337 said:

@babycakin said:

Did you really research all these statistics or is this another make believe cow fantasy? All we know is the million mark for both consoles and PS4 yet to launch in other regions.

and you think xbone has a chance in europe ? i laugh at you if you think so

Wait what? lol

How did you come to that conclusion from my statement??? lol

#12 Posted by groowagon (2761 posts) -

PS4 sales gonna fizzle out. Once the word hits jump street that there is little games, weak UI and crap network.

nice "fact". here's another one:

Xbone sales are gonna fizzle out. Once the word hits jump street that it can't run games with as good graphical details than PS4 and that Kinect is actually useless for gaming.

#13 Edited by babycakin (1400 posts) -

@babycakin said:

Did you really research all these statistics or is this another make believe cow fantasy? All we know is the million mark for both consoles and PS4 yet to launch in other regions.

We know what countries the consoles launched in and we know the populations of these countries. Source: Google.

I just think the statistics were so unnecessary *shrug*

#14 Posted by Suppaman100 (3777 posts) -

Strong fallacy OP.

You can not conclude that PS4 outsells Xbone 3:1 because Xbone launched in more territories.

Although you can conclude that PS4 did much better than Xbone in one single region. (US)

#15 Edited by TheRealBigRich (726 posts) -

I might be wrong but doesn't north America account for majority of sell usually when it comes to video games. If not the majority I know its close to majority so basically going buy population is pretty bad way to calculate sales since some of the countries might not buy that much anyway.

#16 Edited by Suppaman100 (3777 posts) -

@TheRealBigRich said:

I might be wrong but doesn't north America account for majority of sell usually when it comes to video games. If not the majority I know its close to majority so basically going buy population is pretty bad way to calculate sales since some of the countries might not buy that much anyway.

No, the EU is a bigger and much more important market than North America.

http://kotaku.com/5011543/europe-now-a-bigger-gaming-market-than-the-us

But it's normal, the european union is also the biggest economy of the world.

#17 Edited by groowagon (2761 posts) -

I might be wrong but doesn't north America account for majority of sell usually when it comes to video games. If not the majority I know its close to majority so basically going buy population is pretty bad way to calculate sales since some of the countries might not buy that much anyway.

NA is "only" 32%. it's big, but not "majority of sells".

#18 Posted by TheRealBigRich (726 posts) -

@TheRealBigRich said:

I might be wrong but doesn't north America account for majority of sell usually when it comes to video games. If not the majority I know its close to majority so basically going buy population is pretty bad way to calculate sales since some of the countries might not buy that much anyway.

No, the EU is a bigger and much more important market than North America.

http://kotaku.com/5011543/europe-now-a-bigger-gaming-market-than-the-us

Im pretty sure your right and NA is likely 2 behind but I think my point still stands

#19 Posted by groowagon (2761 posts) -

@TheRealBigRich said:

I might be wrong but doesn't north America account for majority of sell usually when it comes to video games. If not the majority I know its close to majority so basically going buy population is pretty bad way to calculate sales since some of the countries might not buy that much anyway.

No, the EU is a bigger and much more important market than North America.

http://kotaku.com/5011543/europe-now-a-bigger-gaming-market-than-the-us

But it's normal, the european union is also the biggest economy of the world.

old news, fellow user. that articel is from 2008.

#20 Posted by cain006 (8625 posts) -

Wow. Just wow.

#21 Posted by FreedomFreeLife (2132 posts) -

No. If PS4 outsells Xbox One in USA 3:1(in microsoft land) then in worldwide is will sell 6:1

GG

#22 Edited by CloudStrife213 (426 posts) -

TC needs to post a topic about it and do research to convince himself that his choice of console is the best. If that doesn't smell of insecurity, I don't know what does.

#23 Posted by Suppaman100 (3777 posts) -

@Suppaman100 said:

@TheRealBigRich said:

I might be wrong but doesn't north America account for majority of sell usually when it comes to video games. If not the majority I know its close to majority so basically going buy population is pretty bad way to calculate sales since some of the countries might not buy that much anyway.

No, the EU is a bigger and much more important market than North America.

http://kotaku.com/5011543/europe-now-a-bigger-gaming-market-than-the-us

But it's normal, the european union is also the biggest economy of the world.

old news, fellow user. that articel is from 2008.

That's right, it's an old article.

Did not know that NA was the biggest game market again.

#24 Posted by rjdofu (9170 posts) -

I can imagine how happy you are after 'discovering' that.

Actually, I can't.

#25 Posted by Dark_man123 (3829 posts) -

Nothing to see here people, just another bias fan-boy playing the sales game, both console are going to do good in their own respected way.

#26 Edited by Sweenix (5398 posts) -

That's some heavy shit right there doc.

#27 Posted by MonsieurX (29548 posts) -

Not sure why you would even do that,proves nothing

#28 Posted by MBirdy88 (7718 posts) -

PS4 sales gonna fizzle out. Once the word hits jump street that there is little games, weak UI and crap network.

if only the latter were true, then you may have a point.

#29 Edited by PinkiePirate (2086 posts) -

TC needs to post a topic about it and do research to convince himself that his choice of console is the best. If that doesn't smell of insecurity, I don't know what does.

I was bored man, come on. :P

#30 Edited by Snugenz (11818 posts) -

@PinkiePirate said:

@CloudStrife213 said:

TC needs to post a topic about it and do research to convince himself that his choice of console is the best. If that doesn't smell of insecurity, I don't know what does.

I was bored man, come on. :P

Whats wrong with your PS4, or are you also European?.

And apart from that, you were bored so you looked up statistics about console sales to relieve that boredom?, you're a fun guy.

#31 Posted by mems_1224 (46585 posts) -

lol your insecurity is entertaining. keep it up.

#32 Posted by PinkiePirate (2086 posts) -

@Snugenz said:

@PinkiePirate said:

@CloudStrife213 said:

TC needs to post a topic about it and do research to convince himself that his choice of console is the best. If that doesn't smell of insecurity, I don't know what does.

I was bored man, come on. :P

Whats wrong with your PS4, or are you also European?.

Nothin', I was playing it from 6 PM to 2 AM last night and I was tired. Thought I'd make this thread for fun since no one did the math behind the sales yet. :D

#33 Posted by Desmonic (13441 posts) -

Well..this should be a fun thread!

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#34 Edited by psymon100 (6138 posts) -

As you are well aware, I'm a big fan of mathematics. There is no proof of outselling.

However, there is suggestion of better market penetration of one console. Then again, this is purely academic, because one console launched in two regions, the other console launched in those two regions AND a whole bunch of other regions.

I could turn this around and say, well when you only go for regions about a third the size of your competitor, it's no surprise you get about 3x the market penetration.

There's nothing here.

#35 Posted by DerekLoffin (8757 posts) -

You have entirely too much time on your hands. At least wait till PS4 releases in Europe, then you can start up the sales debates again. Till then they are rather silly.

#36 Edited by PinkiePirate (2086 posts) -

@psymon100 said:

As you are well aware, I'm a big fan of mathematics. There is no proof of outselling.

However, there is suggestion of better market penetration of one console. Then again, this is purely academic, because one console launched in two regions, the other console launched in those two regions AND a whole bunch of other regions.

I could turn this around and say, well when you only go for regions about a third the size of your competitor, it's no surprise you get about 3x the market penetration.

There's nothing here.

It's also the fact that they sold the same amount of consoles within the same amount of time. I understand that the sales ratios are different country to country. The ratio can't be that much lower than 2:1 in the Unites States, they couldn't have sold more than 750,000 consoles there, because that would be very lopsided up against the other 900 million people the console was available to. So the ratio in the US is definitely in favor of the PS4. There's no doubt about that.

#37 Posted by chikenfriedrice (9887 posts) -

We don't know shit until Sony and MS release actual numbers.....so good math work too bad you did it for nothing.

#38 Edited by psymon100 (6138 posts) -

@psymon100 said:

As you are well aware, I'm a big fan of mathematics. There is no proof of outselling.

However, there is suggestion of better market penetration of one console. Then again, this is purely academic, because one console launched in two regions, the other console launched in those two regions AND a whole bunch of other regions.

I could turn this around and say, well when you only go for regions about a third the size of your competitor, it's no surprise you get about 3x the market penetration.

There's nothing here.

It's also the fact that they sold the same amount of consoles within the same amount of time. I understand that the sales ratios are different country to country. The ratio can't be that much lower than 2:1 in the Unites States, they couldn't have sold more than 750,000 consoles there, because that would be very lopsided up against the other 900 million people the console was available to. So the ratio in the US is definitely in favor of the PS4. There's no doubt about that.

"It's also the fact that they sold the same amount of consoles within the same amount of time"

Xbox One has been out for 4 days, Playstation 4 has been out for 11 days. What will happen if we calculate sales per day? The answer is Xbox One is going to look about 2-3x better than Playstation 4. But this is just an illustration of a point, obviously there is no ownage in sales per day.

And if this purported 2:1 difference exists in the USA, why does it exist? My suggestion: logistics and supply chain management, for exactly the reason you state, because they made launch consoles available in the other regions. So that means this ratio is entirely artificial, all it reflects is the availability manufacturers chose / could produce.

I think it will take until Feb of 2015 to get an idea of who's really winning the 'sales war'. The best evidence I've seen so far is proof of unsold Xbox One's in United States Megacities.

#39 Edited by masiisam (5717 posts) -

A sale is a sale..It matters nothing on where that sale is.

BTW shouldn't your dumb ass be making some lame ass GT6 picture thread?

#40 Posted by StormyJoe (4901 posts) -

@lglz1337 said:

@babycakin said:

Did you really research all these statistics or is this another make believe cow fantasy? All we know is the million mark for both consoles and PS4 yet to launch in other regions.

and you think xbone has a chance in europe ? i laugh at you if you think so

Yes. I laugh at you and your fanboy silliness.

#41 Posted by urbansys (232 posts) -

haha just when I thought these forums couldn't get anymore ridiculous...

#42 Edited by PinkiePirate (2086 posts) -

@masiisam said:

A sale is a sale..It matters nothing on where that sale is.

BTW shouldn't you're dumb ass be making some lame ass GT6 picture thread?

I'm waiting for GT7 to make a lame ass picture thread. ;)

#43 Posted by cheesie253 (838 posts) -

@PinkiePirate:

Already bored of KZ, Knack and Resogun?

: )

I kinda like playing the lemming part around here. They are almost all gone these days.

In all honesty the fact that these consoles are hitting a million units so fast is a sign gaming is bigger than ever. Compared to last gens first days it's pretty crazy. If either company had another million available in sure those would be gone too. Now hopefully the game quality goes upward this gen. I really want to see longer games and better AI and physics. Graphics being better isn't so bad either. Can't wait to see what is in store for ALL gamers this gen.

#44 Posted by PinkiePirate (2086 posts) -

@PinkiePirate:

Already bored of KZ, Knack and Resogun?

: )

I kinda like playing the lemming part around here. They are almost all gone these days.

In all honesty the fact that these consoles are hitting a million units so fast is a sign gaming is bigger than ever. Compared to last gens first days it's pretty crazy. If either company had another million available in sure those would be gone too. Now hopefully the game quality goes upward this gen. I really want to see longer games and better AI and physics. Graphics being better isn't so bad either. Can't wait to see what is in store for ALL gamers this gen.

Nah, I was playing Ghosts and Shadow Fall from 6pm to 2am last night. :D

#45 Edited by nyzma23 (918 posts) -

so are you already bored with killzone and knack or this is what cows always do ?????

#46 Posted by PrincessGomez92 (3481 posts) -

Indeed, the PS4 is dominating. Poor XBone.

#47 Edited by Heil68 (43465 posts) -
#48 Edited by Jakandsigz (4512 posts) -

@PinkiePirate: Are you too stupid to know that:

1. X1 sold 1 million in LESS than 24 hours, with only MAYBE partial NA sales.

2.Your math make no sense because you are screwing up solutions that 3rd graders could figure out.

Why are you so obsessed with sales figures that were only one day? The thing just started and already we have made up numbers.

#49 Posted by Mickeyminime (1121 posts) -

3 to 1, i think you mean 4 to 1 ^.^

#50 Posted by AppleFan1991 (3037 posts) -

@CloudStrife213 said:

TC needs to post a topic about it and do research to convince himself that his choice of console is the best. If that doesn't smell of insecurity, I don't know what does.

I was bored man, come on. :P

In reality though, if this was Xbox, he'd be praising you lol