IF PC is the master race, why .....

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#1 Posted by -Damien- (5106 posts) -

1. it doesnt get AAA games (Destiny, GTAV, etc)

2. In term of sale number, PC version sells the worst for multiplatform games

3. PC version comes later than console version (Dark Souls, MGR, etc)

#2 Posted by remiks00 (1533 posts) -

Go to bed.

#3 Posted by CrownKingArthur (3739 posts) -

good thing i'm a pheasant and don't believe in the master race.

#4 Posted by lawlessx (46246 posts) -

@remiks00 said:

Go to bed.

my thoughts exactly

#5 Posted by Flubbbs (2806 posts) -

peasant, get back in your cage

#6 Posted by Blabadon (25191 posts) -
#7 Edited by intotheminx (355 posts) -
#8 Posted by jhonMalcovich (4343 posts) -
#9 Posted by XboxDone74 (2047 posts) -

All good, viable questions.

Being a Console Caesar...it's hard to comprehend, and rationalize such problems.

#10 Posted by melonfarmerz (1010 posts) -
#11 Posted by Heil68 (42622 posts) -

I wonder why PC cant win GOTY or score a perfect score.

#12 Edited by lundy86_4 (42648 posts) -

Your first and third points are mere instances, rather than the norm. Your second points requires quite a bit of evidence.

All good, viable questions.

Being a Console Caesar...it's hard to comprehend, and rationalize such problems.

None of those were questions.

#13 Posted by Gue1 (9116 posts) -

Revenge of the peasants!

This is something I've been pointing out for years TC but Stevo always came up with his shady charts to make the herms feel better. So yeah, PC has more high scoring exclusives than all the consoles combined according to gamespot but when you actually take a look at the games you're like... Wow, a bunch of crappy indie games or F2P that can't even be compared to the indies on consoles like Journey that won multiple GOTY. It makes no sense.

#14 Edited by lundy86_4 (42648 posts) -

@Gue1 said:

Revenge of the peasants!

This is something I've been pointing out for years TC but Stevo always came up with his shady charts to make the herms feel better. So yeah, PC has more high scoring exclusives than all the consoles combined according to gamespot but when you actually take a look at the games you're like... Wow, a bunch of crappy indie games or F2P that can't even be compared to the indies on consoles like Journey that won multiple GOTY. It makes no sense.

Scores would be the least ambiguous way of determining the ranking for games. Hence, that's the system we use.

#15 Posted by Roler42 (467 posts) -

@lundy86_4: At least until it stops being convenient to the argument, lol watch herms and cows use the same system to argue about their own systems but then disregard it when it comes to the PC

#16 Edited by Vaasman (11135 posts) -

@Heil68 said:

I wonder why PC cant win GOTY or score a perfect score.

A working clock is never correct. A broken clock is right twice a day.

#17 Posted by Heil68 (42622 posts) -

@Vaasman said:

@Heil68 said:

I wonder why PC cant win GOTY or score a perfect score.

A working clock is never correct. A broken clock is right twice a day.

Man who stand on toilet, high on pot.

#18 Edited by xhawk27 (7076 posts) -

@Heil68 said:

I wonder why PC cant win GOTY or score a perfect score.

Because Sony and Nintendo have the bigger checkbook to get a GOTY award.

#19 Posted by lundy86_4 (42648 posts) -

@roler42 said:

@lundy86_4: At least until it stops being convenient to the argument, lol watch herms and cows use the same system to argue about their own systems but then disregard it when it comes to the PC

Do you mean Lems and Cows?

#20 Posted by Heil68 (42622 posts) -

@xhawk27 said:

@Heil68 said:

I wonder why PC cant win GOTY or score a perfect score.

Because Sony and Nintendo have the bigger checkbook to get a GOTY award.

Conspiracy theories are always delicious. Nom nom nom

#21 Posted by foxhound_fox (86862 posts) -

@-Damien- said:

1. it doesnt get AAA games (Destiny, GTAV, etc)

2. In term of sale number, PC version sells the worst for multiplatform games

3. PC version comes later than console version (Dark Souls, MGR, etc)

  1. It gets a lot of AAA games that consoles get, don't cherry pick.
  2. Have some numbers to back up this ass-pulling?
  3. Not always, and those versions are usually superior.

This entire discussion is based on multiplatform games. You didn't even consider the hundreds of AA and AAA exclusive games PC gets every generation. While consoles struggle to get 25.

#22 Edited by Vaasman (11135 posts) -

@Heil68 said:

@Vaasman said:

@Heil68 said:

I wonder why PC cant win GOTY or score a perfect score.

A working clock is never correct. A broken clock is right twice a day.

Man who stand on toilet, high on pot.

Guess I shouldn't have expected an intelligent response to the analogy while posting on system wars.

#23 Posted by -Damien- (5106 posts) -

PC is more like second-tier platform.

IF developers want to squeeze extra profit, they make PC version. That's why big profitable games like Destiny and GTAV don't bother with PC, since they already make a lot of money with console.

Oh, the piracy....

#24 Edited by xhawk27 (7076 posts) -

@Heil68 said:

@xhawk27 said:

@Heil68 said:

I wonder why PC cant win GOTY or score a perfect score.

Because Sony and Nintendo have the bigger checkbook to get a GOTY award.

Conspiracy theories are always delicious. Nom nom nom

Get away from me you Casual Peasant!! \^_^/

#25 Posted by inb4uall (5128 posts) -

good thing i'm a pheasant and don't believe in the master race.

what's your favorite flavor or bird seed?

#26 Posted by TheFadeForever (1633 posts) -

@-Damien- said:

PC is more like second-tier platform.

IF developers want to squeeze extra profit, they make PC version. That's why big profitable games like Destiny and GTAV don't bother with PC, since they already make a lot of money with console.

Oh, the piracy....

Destiny isn't even out

#27 Edited by lundy86_4 (42648 posts) -

@-Damien- said:

PC is more like second-tier platform.

IF developers want to squeeze extra profit, they make PC version. That's why big profitable games like Destiny and GTAV don't bother with PC, since they already make a lot of money with console.

Oh, the piracy....

Right. Still waiting for you to prove your second point. inb4 VGChartz.

#28 Posted by mems_1224 (45738 posts) -

If consoles are so much better then why do you pay so much more money for inferior versions of games?

#29 Posted by HeadtripHippie (7 posts) -

This thread is dumb, I vote for a topic change. Something like 'murcia vs the world or a classic like spiderman.

#30 Posted by Heil68 (42622 posts) -

@Vaasman said:

@Heil68 said:

@Vaasman said:

@Heil68 said:

I wonder why PC cant win GOTY or score a perfect score.

A working clock is never correct. A broken clock is right twice a day.

Man who stand on toilet, high on pot.

Guess I shouldn't have expected an intelligent response to the analogy while posting on system wars.

Fine..

Unless you don't have a reliable standard to compare that clock with, it is useless to consider this fact that the clock might be right 2 times. Clock is a measurement instrument with which you measure something else, so if you wan't to verify it you need another clock which works 100% correct. We measure time by the movements of the Sun, but really time is a forward motion never to be the same again.

#31 Posted by speedfreak48t5p (6162 posts) -

Console peasants should bail down to the glorious master race and Gabe.

#32 Posted by Vaasman (11135 posts) -

@Heil68 said:

@Vaasman said:

@Heil68 said:

@Vaasman said:

@Heil68 said:

I wonder why PC cant win GOTY or score a perfect score.

A working clock is never correct. A broken clock is right twice a day.

Man who stand on toilet, high on pot.

Guess I shouldn't have expected an intelligent response to the analogy while posting on system wars.

Fine..

Unless you don't have a reliable standard to compare that clock with, it is useless to consider this fact that the clock might be right 2 times. Clock is a measurement instrument with which you measure something else, so if you wan't to verify it you need another clock which works 100% correct. We measure time by the movements of the Sun, but really time is a forward motion never to be the same again.

I said intelligent, not verbal diarrhea.

#33 Posted by Heil68 (42622 posts) -

@Vaasman said:

@Heil68 said:

@Vaasman said:

@Heil68 said:

@Vaasman said:

@Heil68 said:

I wonder why PC cant win GOTY or score a perfect score.

A working clock is never correct. A broken clock is right twice a day.

Man who stand on toilet, high on pot.

Guess I shouldn't have expected an intelligent response to the analogy while posting on system wars.

Fine..

Unless you don't have a reliable standard to compare that clock with, it is useless to consider this fact that the clock might be right 2 times. Clock is a measurement instrument with which you measure something else, so if you wan't to verify it you need another clock which works 100% correct. We measure time by the movements of the Sun, but really time is a forward motion never to be the same again.

I said intelligent, not verbal diarrhea.

If we compare our stopped clock with one that only shows hours, we could conclude that it's correct twice a day, or one-twelfth of the time. If our reference clock also shows minutes, we'd conclude that it's still correct twice a day, but only one-720'th of the time. If it shows seconds it's still correct twice but only one-43,200th of the time. Well, you get the point. If we have a cesium clock that can measure millionths of a second ...

As the denominator in our rate approaches infinity, the time period of theoretical clock-correctness approaches a limit of zero, and eventually becomes a practical non-event, though this non-event still happens twice a day. (By the way, to verify that your reference clock is "100% correct" you would need another reference clock, etc...)

Sure, "others can be right sometimes." And to others, we're the "others." By chance, we could be right sometimes, too. I think others are right most of the time; at least right for themselves. And we and the others can both be right, even when we disagree. What we're mostly not right about is that others aren't right.

#34 Posted by Vaasman (11135 posts) -

@Heil68 said:

@Vaasman said:

@Heil68 said:

@Vaasman said:

@Heil68 said:

@Vaasman said:

@Heil68 said:

I wonder why PC cant win GOTY or score a perfect score.

A working clock is never correct. A broken clock is right twice a day.

Man who stand on toilet, high on pot.

Guess I shouldn't have expected an intelligent response to the analogy while posting on system wars.

Fine..

Unless you don't have a reliable standard to compare that clock with, it is useless to consider this fact that the clock might be right 2 times. Clock is a measurement instrument with which you measure something else, so if you wan't to verify it you need another clock which works 100% correct. We measure time by the movements of the Sun, but really time is a forward motion never to be the same again.

I said intelligent, not verbal diarrhea.

If we compare our stopped clock with one that only shows hours, we could conclude that it's correct twice a day, or one-twelfth of the time. If our reference clock also shows minutes, we'd conclude that it's still correct twice a day, but only one-720'th of the time. If it shows seconds it's still correct twice but only one-43,200th of the time. Well, you get the point. If we have a cesium clock that can measure millionths of a second ...

As the denominator in our rate approaches infinity, the time period of theoretical clock-correctness approaches a limit of zero, and eventually becomes a practical non-event, though this non-event still happens twice a day. (By the way, to verify that your reference clock is "100% correct" you would need another reference clock, etc...)

Sure, "others can be right sometimes." And to others, we're the "others." By chance, we could be right sometimes, too. I think others are right most of the time; at least right for themselves. And we and the others can both be right, even when we disagree. What we're mostly not right about is that others aren't right.

:|

It's like trying to argue with Dusting Hoffman's character from Rain Man.

#35 Edited by Heil68 (42622 posts) -

@Vaasman said:

@Heil68 said:

@Vaasman said:

@Heil68 said:

@Vaasman said:

@Heil68 said:

@Vaasman said:

@Heil68 said:

I wonder why PC cant win GOTY or score a perfect score.

A working clock is never correct. A broken clock is right twice a day.

Man who stand on toilet, high on pot.

Guess I shouldn't have expected an intelligent response to the analogy while posting on system wars.

Fine..

Unless you don't have a reliable standard to compare that clock with, it is useless to consider this fact that the clock might be right 2 times. Clock is a measurement instrument with which you measure something else, so if you wan't to verify it you need another clock which works 100% correct. We measure time by the movements of the Sun, but really time is a forward motion never to be the same again.

I said intelligent, not verbal diarrhea.

If we compare our stopped clock with one that only shows hours, we could conclude that it's correct twice a day, or one-twelfth of the time. If our reference clock also shows minutes, we'd conclude that it's still correct twice a day, but only one-720'th of the time. If it shows seconds it's still correct twice but only one-43,200th of the time. Well, you get the point. If we have a cesium clock that can measure millionths of a second ...

As the denominator in our rate approaches infinity, the time period of theoretical clock-correctness approaches a limit of zero, and eventually becomes a practical non-event, though this non-event still happens twice a day. (By the way, to verify that your reference clock is "100% correct" you would need another reference clock, etc...)

Sure, "others can be right sometimes." And to others, we're the "others." By chance, we could be right sometimes, too. I think others are right most of the time; at least right for themselves. And we and the others can both be right, even when we disagree. What we're mostly not right about is that others aren't right.

:|

It's like trying to argue with Dusting Hoffman's character from Rain Man.

So I'm right 100% of the time? :D

#36 Posted by Vaasman (11135 posts) -

@Heil68 said:

@Vaasman said:

@Heil68 said:

@Vaasman said:

@Heil68 said:

@Vaasman said:

@Heil68 said:

@Vaasman said:

@Heil68 said:

I wonder why PC cant win GOTY or score a perfect score.

A working clock is never correct. A broken clock is right twice a day.

Man who stand on toilet, high on pot.

Guess I shouldn't have expected an intelligent response to the analogy while posting on system wars.

Fine..

Unless you don't have a reliable standard to compare that clock with, it is useless to consider this fact that the clock might be right 2 times. Clock is a measurement instrument with which you measure something else, so if you wan't to verify it you need another clock which works 100% correct. We measure time by the movements of the Sun, but really time is a forward motion never to be the same again.

I said intelligent, not verbal diarrhea.

If we compare our stopped clock with one that only shows hours, we could conclude that it's correct twice a day, or one-twelfth of the time. If our reference clock also shows minutes, we'd conclude that it's still correct twice a day, but only one-720'th of the time. If it shows seconds it's still correct twice but only one-43,200th of the time. Well, you get the point. If we have a cesium clock that can measure millionths of a second ...

As the denominator in our rate approaches infinity, the time period of theoretical clock-correctness approaches a limit of zero, and eventually becomes a practical non-event, though this non-event still happens twice a day. (By the way, to verify that your reference clock is "100% correct" you would need another reference clock, etc...)

Sure, "others can be right sometimes." And to others, we're the "others." By chance, we could be right sometimes, too. I think others are right most of the time; at least right for themselves. And we and the others can both be right, even when we disagree. What we're mostly not right about is that others aren't right.

:|

It's like trying to argue with Dusting Hoffman's character from Rain Man.

So I'm right 100% of the time? :D

No but you may have Asperger's.

#37 Posted by CrownKingArthur (3739 posts) -
@inb4uall said:

@CrownKingArthur said:

good thing i'm a pheasant and don't believe in the master race.

what's your favorite flavor or bird seed?

i live on a diet of lols

its why my plumage is so vibrant these days.

#38 Edited by inb4uall (5128 posts) -

@CrownKingArthur said:
@inb4uall said:

@CrownKingArthur said:

good thing i'm a pheasant and don't believe in the master race.

what's your favorite flavor or bird seed?

i live on a diet of lols

its why my plumage is so vibrant these days.

It is rather fabulous. I'm not sure how a primate turns into a pheasant though.

#39 Edited by Heil68 (42622 posts) -

@Vaasman:

and you're .....you're poopmouth, with poop out of your mouth!

#40 Posted by CrownKingArthur (3739 posts) -
@inb4uall said:

@CrownKingArthur said:
@inb4uall said:

@CrownKingArthur said:

good thing i'm a pheasant and don't believe in the master race.

what's your favorite flavor or bird seed?

i live on a diet of lols

its why my plumage is so vibrant these days.

It is rather fabulous. I'm not sure how a primate turns into a pheasant though.

its ok. we can leave that as an unknown.

#41 Edited by melonfarmerz (1010 posts) -

@xboxdone74 said:

All good, viable questions.

Being a Console Caesar...it's hard to comprehend, and rationalize such problems.

Forget this bashing, this man just called himself a Console Caesar. What the actual fuck. Who takes a satirical statement, bends it his side and uses it seriously.

Some console players understand how PC gaming works and I respect their choices. Then we have the gamers who just scream "hur hur hur exclusives GOTY GTA V PC BEGGERS" on internet boards all day. There's far too many of those here. I guess this is where a lot of those not smart enough to get a paid email for NeoGaf go. Back to gaf for me. This is ridiculous LOL. Not really though. I like the hilarious internet fights here :)

#42 Posted by PannicAtack (20856 posts) -

Yeah, I'm missing out on a lot, seeing as I have literally more games than I can actually play.

#44 Edited by highking_kallor (445 posts) -

@Vaasman said:

@Heil68 said:

@Vaasman said:

@Heil68 said:

I wonder why PC cant win GOTY or score a perfect score.

A working clock is never correct. A broken clock is right twice a day.

Man who stand on toilet, high on pot.

Guess I shouldn't have expected an intelligent response to the analogy while posting on system wars.

Gives a bs answer. Gets one back then moans. Typical

#45 Edited by Cloud_imperium (1780 posts) -

1. Witcher , World in Conflict , Starcraft 2 , Crysis , FEAR , STALKER .

2. Diablo 3 : 15 million copies on PC , 1.5 million copies on consoles

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Diablo-3-Sold-Over-12-million-Copies-in-2012-327841.shtml (Without Expansion Pack)

Witcher 2 : Over 2 million copies on PC , 600k copies on xbox 360 .

Portal 2 : Over 8 million copies on PC , 1.6 million copies on consoles .

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/317160/portal-2-did-better-on-pc-than-console-newell-reveals/

3. Waited for 3 years for Half Life 2 on consoles , 4 years for Crysis , 1.5 years for Diablo 3 , 1 year for Witcher 2 , still waiting for Shadow Warrior .

PC : Wait for better versions

Consoles : Wait for worse versions

Then there are other advantages too that consoles can only dream of ; mods , backward compatibility , more games , better graphics , better performance , cheaper games and so on . Owning a system to play 3 good games entire generation is not worth it . That's why "Master Race" (BTW no need to feel insecure about it , it is just a joke that started from Witcher review)

Next .

#46 Posted by melonfarmerz (1010 posts) -

1. Witcher , World in Conflict , Starcraft 2 , Crysis , FEAR , STALKER .

2. Diablo 3 : 15 million copies on PC , 1.5 million copies on consoles

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Diablo-3-Sold-Over-12-million-Copies-in-2012-327841.shtml (Without Expansion Pack)

Witcher 2 : Over 2 million copies on PC , 600k copies on xbox 360 .

Portal 2 : Over 8 million copies on PC , 1.6 million copies on consoles .

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/317160/portal-2-did-better-on-pc-than-console-newell-reveals/

3. Waited for 3 years for Half Life 2 on consoles , 4 years for Crysis , 1.5 years for Diablo 3 , 1 year for Witcher 2 , still waiting for Shadow Warrior .

Next .

Not to mention the 1 month or so of waiting usually entails a much higher quality game that runs at any Frame Rate and Resolution. See Dark Souls 2 that just came out...

#47 Posted by XboxDone74 (2047 posts) -

@xboxdone74 said:

All good, viable questions.

Being a Console Caesar...it's hard to comprehend, and rationalize such problems.

Forget this bashing, this man just called himself a Console Caesar. What the actual fuck. Who takes a satirical statement, bends it his side and uses it seriously.

Some console players understand how PC gaming works and I respect their choices. Then we have the gamers who just scream "hur hur hur exclusives GOTY GTA V PC BEGGERS" on internet boards all day. There's far too many of those here. I guess this is where a lot of those not smart enough to get a paid email for NeoGaf go. Back to gaf for me. This is ridiculous LOL. Not really though. I like the hilarious internet fights here :)

You are very new to SW, my child. You have much to learn.

#48 Edited by Cloud_imperium (1780 posts) -

@-Damien- said:

PC is more like second-tier platform.

IF developers want to squeeze extra profit, they make PC version. That's why big profitable games like Destiny and GTAV don't bother with PC, since they already make a lot of money with console.

Oh, the piracy....

Have you been living under a rock .?

PC have surpassed consoles in terms of revenue , wake up .

  • http://www.pcr-online.biz/news/read/pc-games-have-surpassed-console-games-globally/033849

Used game sales are much bigger problem than so called piracy .

  • http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/100606-Used-Game-Sales-are-a-Bigger-Problem-Than-Piracy
#49 Edited by Vaasman (11135 posts) -

@Heil68 said:

@Vaasman:

and you're .....you're poopmouth, with poop out of your mouth!

YOU TAKE THAT BACK!

#50 Edited by XboxDone74 (2047 posts) -
@speedfreak48t5p said:

Console peasants should bail down to the glorious master race and Gabe.

And pc beggars should learn to spell check. B-)

Kneel before your Console Caesar.