I Played 45 Minutes Of Destiny, And It Was Kind Of Boring

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#152 Edited by Senor_Kami (8258 posts) -

It looked kinda dull at E3 last year and didn't get good until what seemed like a boss fight against that beetle bug mech thing. My fiend is a big Halo fan and he saw that and was like mind blown though.

#153 Edited by Cranler (7739 posts) -

@Cranler said:

Lol, Halo series and Far Cry 3 are bland but Fear isn't?

How are CoD 1 and UO better than the later CoD's?

Fear is no half life. it can be repetetive but make no mistake it has one of the best gunplay and AI in any game ever.

Far cry 3 was terrible game. with long and painfully unskippable cutscenes, boring missions, basic gunplay, see thorugh walls etc.

i remember COD1 and UO doesnot have regen health but instead health bar system. it took skills unlike post modern warfare games. it was not popular at that time. but was better series.

Uncharted series easily surpasses the ai and gunplay of Fear. Plus Uncharted has much better story, characters, puzzles and varied levels.

Far Cry has probably the best gunplay of any open world game. Don't want to see through walls? Don't use the binocs.

One of your fav games is Crysis and that has regen health. CoD 1 and UO are more noob friendly than current CoD's. Killstreaks are rewards for playing well, early CoD's had no rewards for playing well.

#154 Edited by Cranler (7739 posts) -

@Motokid6 said:

Arena shooters >> Military shooters.

You console degenerates just want everything to be like CoD? That game is crap and its destroying the gaming industry just as you consolites do with your mainstream, bullshit advertisement stations.

I will be playing Destiny and I'll draw my conclusions based off that. You quintessential bro gamer idiots would be wise to do the same. Grow the hell up. Stop comparing everything to CoD , stop buying CoD games so the fps and industry can move on from this ten year apathy.

Why do people always blame console for killing arena shooters? Most pc gamers hate arena shooters too. Only reason arena shooters were ever popular is because BF and CoD didn't exist yet. UT 2004 is one of the highest rated pc shooters ever yet was practically dead within 6 months.

#155 Edited by SNIPER4321 (10142 posts) -

@Cranler said:

Far Cry has probably the best gunplay of any open world game. Don't want to see through walls? Don't use the binocs.

no. thats Stalker.

and beside even crysis 1 has better gunplay

@Cranler said:

Most pc gamers hate arena shooters too.

and im one of them. i like varied. semi open world or linear with exploration (half life, doom 3, metro) Single player FPS.

#156 Edited by Fleeboi (94 posts) -

TBF Kotaku only played the early part of the game, a game that looks to be taking heavy influence from WoW and turning the experience into an FPS. So with that in mind, imagine judging WoW on just the early quests, yes it would be thought of as boring if you were stuck in the world with no one else you actually know, and left to do the introductory quests. The game will get much more in depth and intense the further you progress, you'd be a fool to think Bungie would be content with enemies that pose no challenge to be the main experience, it will get as tough as the player wants it to get.

Also, Bungie are not stupid, Guild Wars 2 was a let down because it gave you practically the end game experience within the first 10-20 levels so everything there out felt largely the same. So to judge Destiny on content that is designed for players who have no idea what they're doing is unfair. Let's wait to see what content is available later on, which Bungie plan on unveiling soon.

My interpretation of this recent unveiling was Bungie demonstrating more of the way the world works and looks, with emphases being on the social and graphical aspects and saving the details of game content until later. We've not seen PvP, raids, etc, there's still loads of important gameplay aspects to be seen and the game's already being judged? Be patient.

#157 Edited by Cranler (7739 posts) -

@Cranler said:

Far Cry has probably the best gunplay of any open world game. Don't want to see through walls? Don't use the binocs.

no. thats Stalker.

and beside even crysis 1 has better gunplay

@Cranler said:

Most pc gamers hate arena shooters too.

and im one of them. i like varied. semi open world or linear with exploration (half life, doom 3, metro) Single player FPS.

Stalker had the best open world gunplay for it's time. Far Cry 3 has better ai, better movement and the cover system destroys Stalkers leaning.

Crysis 1 isn't true open world and the ai there is even worse than Stalker.

I was implying that mp shooter enthusiasts hate arena shooters. You hate mp in general it seems.

#158 Edited by SNIPER4321 (10142 posts) -

@Cranler said:

Stalker had the best open world gunplay for it's time. Far Cry 3 has better ai, better movement and the cover system destroys Stalkers leaning.

Crysis 1 isn't true open world and the ai there is even worse than Stalker.

I was implying that mp shooter enthusiasts hate arena shooters. You hate mp in general it seems.

lol cover system. one of the worst mechanic ever. lean and peak is always better. cover make game too easy.

crysis 1 on delta has some of the best AI ever.

#159 Posted by R3FURBISHED (10027 posts) -

@Pffrbt said:

@R3FURBISHED said:

So when you said "barely has any gameplay" you meant what exactly?

I mean what I just said. Shallow, mindless, repetitive, tedious "gameplay" that does nothing to engage me or make me care.

"The thing about a random loot generator is that it is random. You could find a legendary, you could find a generic base model"

The thing about it is that most of what I'm picking up is meaningless garbage and on the off chance I do get something "good" I won't care because the game has bored the shit out of me.

Its all about you isn't it? Well regardless of your irrelevant opinion, Borderlands has an abundance of gameplay.

In the same way Diablo is better off because of its random loot generator, Borderlands is better off because of it.

#160 Edited by speedfog (2852 posts) -

What did you expect? It's being developed by the same folks who developed Halo, which was a crap series.

You expect viewers with that opinion?

#161 Posted by Cranler (7739 posts) -

@Cranler said:

Stalker had the best open world gunplay for it's time. Far Cry 3 has better ai, better movement and the cover system destroys Stalkers leaning.

Crysis 1 isn't true open world and the ai there is even worse than Stalker.

I was implying that mp shooter enthusiasts hate arena shooters. You hate mp in general it seems.

lol cover system. one of the worst mechanic ever. lean and peak is always better. cover make game too easy.

crysis 1 on delta has some of the best AI ever.

How does a cover system make a game easier?

Uncharted has best ai ever. Ai is either realistically shooting from cover or flanking and grenade flushing.

#162 Posted by cooolio (428 posts) -

@Cranler said:

@SNIPER4321 said:

@Cranler said:

Stalker had the best open world gunplay for it's time. Far Cry 3 has better ai, better movement and the cover system destroys Stalkers leaning.

Crysis 1 isn't true open world and the ai there is even worse than Stalker.

I was implying that mp shooter enthusiasts hate arena shooters. You hate mp in general it seems.

lol cover system. one of the worst mechanic ever. lean and peak is always better. cover make game too easy.

crysis 1 on delta has some of the best AI ever.

How does a cover system make a game easier?

Uncharted has best ai ever. Ai is either realistically shooting from cover or flanking and grenade flushing.

I am sorry but don't every say something that stupid again.

#163 Edited by Cranler (7739 posts) -

@cooolio said:

@Cranler said:

@SNIPER4321 said:

@Cranler said:

Stalker had the best open world gunplay for it's time. Far Cry 3 has better ai, better movement and the cover system destroys Stalkers leaning.

Crysis 1 isn't true open world and the ai there is even worse than Stalker.

I was implying that mp shooter enthusiasts hate arena shooters. You hate mp in general it seems.

lol cover system. one of the worst mechanic ever. lean and peak is always better. cover make game too easy.

crysis 1 on delta has some of the best AI ever.

How does a cover system make a game easier?

Uncharted has best ai ever. Ai is either realistically shooting from cover or flanking and grenade flushing.

I am sorry but don't every say something that stupid again.

What shooter has better ai?

#164 Posted by Pffrbt (6367 posts) -

Its all about you isn't it?

Considering how I'm not going to vicariously enjoy a game simply because some stranger does, yes.

"In the same way Diablo is better off because of its random loot generator, Borderlands is better off because of it."
In the same way that Diablo basically has no gameplay and tries to compensate by spewing a steady stream of meaningless loot at the player to prey on their addictive behaviors, Borderlands does the same thing.

#165 Edited by cooolio (428 posts) -

@Cranler said:

@cooolio said:

@Cranler said:

@SNIPER4321 said:

@Cranler said:

Stalker had the best open world gunplay for it's time. Far Cry 3 has better ai, better movement and the cover system destroys Stalkers leaning.

Crysis 1 isn't true open world and the ai there is even worse than Stalker.

I was implying that mp shooter enthusiasts hate arena shooters. You hate mp in general it seems.

lol cover system. one of the worst mechanic ever. lean and peak is always better. cover make game too easy.

crysis 1 on delta has some of the best AI ever.

How does a cover system make a game easier?

Uncharted has best ai ever. Ai is either realistically shooting from cover or flanking and grenade flushing.

I am sorry but don't every say something that stupid again.

What shooter has better ai?

You do not say that you were talking about shooters specifically. Anyway, I would say TLOU, but then again, I do not play shooters like that. However, I know that Uncharteds ai is not that good.

#166 Edited by k2theswiss (16598 posts) -

no one likes that website

2: i heard they only got to play gameplay in small area and was heavily watched over to make sure they didn't go to far and experienced NO story

#167 Posted by NFJSupreme (5020 posts) -

Looks ok. I was hyped but not anymore. It looks very grindy from what I could tell

#168 Posted by DeathLordCrime (140 posts) -

I believe it will be a good game but anyone who said it somehow going to be innovative and revolutionary need to take a closer look because it doesn't look like it has anything that really stand out compared to other standard gameplay mechanics we seen in other games. Looks something like Halo and BL2 thrown into the mix and I got bored of BL2 real fast.

#169 Edited by NFJSupreme (5020 posts) -

i will say that it looks like it will be content driven. Maybe not change how shooters are played but give you a ton of stuff to do that is ever evolving.

#170 Edited by Cranler (7739 posts) -

@cooolio said:

@Cranler said:

@cooolio said:

@Cranler said:

@SNIPER4321 said:

@Cranler said:

Stalker had the best open world gunplay for it's time. Far Cry 3 has better ai, better movement and the cover system destroys Stalkers leaning.

Crysis 1 isn't true open world and the ai there is even worse than Stalker.

I was implying that mp shooter enthusiasts hate arena shooters. You hate mp in general it seems.

lol cover system. one of the worst mechanic ever. lean and peak is always better. cover make game too easy.

crysis 1 on delta has some of the best AI ever.

How does a cover system make a game easier?

Uncharted has best ai ever. Ai is either realistically shooting from cover or flanking and grenade flushing.

I am sorry but don't every say something that stupid again.

What shooter has better ai?

You do not say that you were talking about shooters specifically. Anyway, I would say TLOU, but then again, I do not play shooters like that. However, I know that Uncharteds ai is not that good.

What aspect of ai did you think I was speaking of?

So you never played Uncharted but you have an opinion on its ai?

Check out this vid. Riot shield guy tries to flank, there's grenade flush attempts and enemies retreat to more distant cover.

#172 Posted by cooolio (428 posts) -

@Cranler said:

@cooolio said:

@Cranler said:

@cooolio said:

@Cranler said:

@SNIPER4321 said:

@Cranler said:

Stalker had the best open world gunplay for it's time. Far Cry 3 has better ai, better movement and the cover system destroys Stalkers leaning.

Crysis 1 isn't true open world and the ai there is even worse than Stalker.

I was implying that mp shooter enthusiasts hate arena shooters. You hate mp in general it seems.

lol cover system. one of the worst mechanic ever. lean and peak is always better. cover make game too easy.

crysis 1 on delta has some of the best AI ever.

How does a cover system make a game easier?

Uncharted has best ai ever. Ai is either realistically shooting from cover or flanking and grenade flushing.

I am sorry but don't every say something that stupid again.

What shooter has better ai?

You do not say that you were talking about shooters specifically. Anyway, I would say TLOU, but then again, I do not play shooters like that. However, I know that Uncharteds ai is not that good.

What aspect of ai did you think I was speaking of?

So you never played Uncharted but you have an opinion on its ai?

Check out this vid. Riot shield guy tries to flank, there's grenade flush attempts and enemies retreat to more distant cover.

I never said that. I said that I do not play shooters like that, meaning that I do play many shooters. I have played 3 and 2, and the ai is nothing groundbreaking. They do not do anything that is drastically different and more advanced than other games have.

#173 Posted by Cranler (7739 posts) -

@cooolio said:

@Cranler said:

@cooolio said:

@Cranler said:

@cooolio said:

@Cranler said:

@SNIPER4321 said:

@Cranler said:

Stalker had the best open world gunplay for it's time. Far Cry 3 has better ai, better movement and the cover system destroys Stalkers leaning.

Crysis 1 isn't true open world and the ai there is even worse than Stalker.

I was implying that mp shooter enthusiasts hate arena shooters. You hate mp in general it seems.

lol cover system. one of the worst mechanic ever. lean and peak is always better. cover make game too easy.

crysis 1 on delta has some of the best AI ever.

How does a cover system make a game easier?

Uncharted has best ai ever. Ai is either realistically shooting from cover or flanking and grenade flushing.

I am sorry but don't every say something that stupid again.

What shooter has better ai?

You do not say that you were talking about shooters specifically. Anyway, I would say TLOU, but then again, I do not play shooters like that. However, I know that Uncharteds ai is not that good.

What aspect of ai did you think I was speaking of?

So you never played Uncharted but you have an opinion on its ai?

Check out this vid. Riot shield guy tries to flank, there's grenade flush attempts and enemies retreat to more distant cover.

I never said that. I said that I do not play shooters like that, meaning that I do play many shooters. I have played 3 and 2, and the ai is nothing groundbreaking. They do not do anything that is drastically different and more advanced than other games have.

I never said it's ai a lot better than any other game just that it's the best. Feel free to post a vid of a shooter that has better ai.

#174 Edited by silversix_ (13577 posts) -

Maybe its just me but it seems like the lighting got a severe hit compared to what was shown during e3, now it just looks like some generic last gen garbage

#175 Posted by cooolio (428 posts) -
#176 Posted by cooolio (428 posts) -

@Cranler said:

@cooolio said:

@Cranler said:

@cooolio said:

@Cranler said:

@cooolio said:

@Cranler said:

@SNIPER4321 said:

@Cranler said:

Stalker had the best open world gunplay for it's time. Far Cry 3 has better ai, better movement and the cover system destroys Stalkers leaning.

Crysis 1 isn't true open world and the ai there is even worse than Stalker.

I was implying that mp shooter enthusiasts hate arena shooters. You hate mp in general it seems.

lol cover system. one of the worst mechanic ever. lean and peak is always better. cover make game too easy.

crysis 1 on delta has some of the best AI ever.

How does a cover system make a game easier?

Uncharted has best ai ever. Ai is either realistically shooting from cover or flanking and grenade flushing.

I am sorry but don't every say something that stupid again.

What shooter has better ai?

You do not say that you were talking about shooters specifically. Anyway, I would say TLOU, but then again, I do not play shooters like that. However, I know that Uncharteds ai is not that good.

What aspect of ai did you think I was speaking of?

So you never played Uncharted but you have an opinion on its ai?

Check out this vid. Riot shield guy tries to flank, there's grenade flush attempts and enemies retreat to more distant cover.

I never said that. I said that I do not play shooters like that, meaning that I do play many shooters. I have played 3 and 2, and the ai is nothing groundbreaking. They do not do anything that is drastically different and more advanced than other games have.

I never said it's ai a lot better than any other game just that it's the best. Feel free to post a vid of a shooter that has better ai.

Sigh... that is too much work my friend. Anyway plenty of fps do the same thing. Using grenades to flush out the player and flankers are not anything new, and Uncharted is not the best at it.

#177 Posted by Cranler (7739 posts) -

@cooolio said:

@Cranler said:

@cooolio said:

@Cranler said:

@cooolio said:

@Cranler said:

@cooolio said:

@Cranler said:

@SNIPER4321 said:

@Cranler said:

Stalker had the best open world gunplay for it's time. Far Cry 3 has better ai, better movement and the cover system destroys Stalkers leaning.

Crysis 1 isn't true open world and the ai there is even worse than Stalker.

I was implying that mp shooter enthusiasts hate arena shooters. You hate mp in general it seems.

lol cover system. one of the worst mechanic ever. lean and peak is always better. cover make game too easy.

crysis 1 on delta has some of the best AI ever.

How does a cover system make a game easier?

Uncharted has best ai ever. Ai is either realistically shooting from cover or flanking and grenade flushing.

I am sorry but don't every say something that stupid again.

What shooter has better ai?

You do not say that you were talking about shooters specifically. Anyway, I would say TLOU, but then again, I do not play shooters like that. However, I know that Uncharteds ai is not that good.

What aspect of ai did you think I was speaking of?

So you never played Uncharted but you have an opinion on its ai?

Check out this vid. Riot shield guy tries to flank, there's grenade flush attempts and enemies retreat to more distant cover.

I never said that. I said that I do not play shooters like that, meaning that I do play many shooters. I have played 3 and 2, and the ai is nothing groundbreaking. They do not do anything that is drastically different and more advanced than other games have.

I never said it's ai a lot better than any other game just that it's the best. Feel free to post a vid of a shooter that has better ai.

Sigh... that is too much work my friend. Anyway plenty of fps do the same thing. Using grenades to flush out the player and flankers are not anything new, and Uncharted is not the best at it.

It took me less than a minute to find that youtube video. What game is the best at it then?

#178 Edited by cooolio (428 posts) -

@Cranler said:

@cooolio said:

@Cranler said:

@cooolio said:

@Cranler said:

@cooolio said:

@Cranler said:

@cooolio said:

@Cranler said:

@SNIPER4321 said:

@Cranler said:

Stalker had the best open world gunplay for it's time. Far Cry 3 has better ai, better movement and the cover system destroys Stalkers leaning.

Crysis 1 isn't true open world and the ai there is even worse than Stalker.

I was implying that mp shooter enthusiasts hate arena shooters. You hate mp in general it seems.

lol cover system. one of the worst mechanic ever. lean and peak is always better. cover make game too easy.

crysis 1 on delta has some of the best AI ever.

How does a cover system make a game easier?

Uncharted has best ai ever. Ai is either realistically shooting from cover or flanking and grenade flushing.

I am sorry but don't every say something that stupid again.

What shooter has better ai?

You do not say that you were talking about shooters specifically. Anyway, I would say TLOU, but then again, I do not play shooters like that. However, I know that Uncharteds ai is not that good.

What aspect of ai did you think I was speaking of?

So you never played Uncharted but you have an opinion on its ai?

Check out this vid. Riot shield guy tries to flank, there's grenade flush attempts and enemies retreat to more distant cover.

I never said that. I said that I do not play shooters like that, meaning that I do play many shooters. I have played 3 and 2, and the ai is nothing groundbreaking. They do not do anything that is drastically different and more advanced than other games have.

I never said it's ai a lot better than any other game just that it's the best. Feel free to post a vid of a shooter that has better ai.

Sigh... that is too much work my friend. Anyway plenty of fps do the same thing. Using grenades to flush out the player and flankers are not anything new, and Uncharted is not the best at it.

It took me less than a minute to find that youtube video. What game is the best at it then?

I have never posted an actual video from youtube before. Besides, the characteristics and behavior of the ai in the Uncharted games is nothing new to me. I do not have to try to convince because that is your opinion and the fact that you love the game may influence your opinion of the ai. I will never agree that it has the best ai because plenty of games have ai that does something that another game's ai does not, and there will be plenty of games in the future that will out do the simple ai in Uncharted and other games.

#179 Posted by silversix_ (13577 posts) -

@cooolio said:

@silversix_: i think it is just u.

that would be good news because im tired of seeing downgrades. Every game received one except Infamous.

#180 Edited by cooolio (428 posts) -

@cooolio said:

@silversix_: i think it is just u.

that would be good news because im tired of seeing downgrades. Every game received one except Infamous.

You have to think for a minute. Can you really make a fair judgment if you are comparing two different areas.

#181 Edited by AznbkdX (3113 posts) -

Honestly I mostly just want it to play something on my PS4. :/ The RPG aspects in a shooter sure help though.

It doesn't look too bad or boring imo. I'm expecting it to be a little bit Borderlands mixed with Halo.

#182 Edited by sukraj (21611 posts) -

I really don't know what to make of destiny I need to see more of it before I decide if I'm going to buy the game.

#183 Edited by R3FURBISHED (10027 posts) -

@sukraj said:

I really don't know what to make of destiny I need to see more of it before I decide if I'm going to buy the game.

Online open world FPS/RPG based around a team mentality with a large scale unified multiplayer battles (public events).

Competitive multiplayer is largely unknown (look towards E3 2014 for that) but there will be PvP and competitive multiplayer is a "huge focus" for Bungie, who apparently play it daily.

___

Probably just brings up more questions than answers, but whatever.

#184 Posted by TheShensolidus (224 posts) -

As someone who had the distinct pleasure of enjoying the pre-alpha test all week last week, I can say that the game is definitely enjoyable, and the foundation they laid has huge potential

#185 Edited by Cloud_imperium (1790 posts) -

The moment they showcased the demo last year at E3 , I was out . Always online was also deal breaker for me , never watched a single dev diary or read anything about this game since . Doesn't bother me , whether it is good or bad or on what platforms it is on .

#186 Posted by Console_Caesar (46 posts) -

@kittennose said:

First off: Who cares about Kotaku. That is like getting slammed by Molyneux or Pacter.

That said, when I hear talk about Destiny alls I think is: "So you are going to revolutionize Borderlands 2 by copy and pasting everything but that which made it unique? Yep, sounds like a Halo Dev to me." So freaking thank you for showing me I think like Kotaku. I am going to go find booze until I forgot.

Borderlands 2 is Diablo ripoff. But shit.

Wow, hermies what's up with that? Whenever a good console only game comes out than it's always a "ripoff" of a famous PC game. And of course you guys find the game boring, it's not on PC so it must suck, right? Way to be a Snobby McSnobbinger.

#187 Edited by Jankarcop (8827 posts) -

@console_caesar said:

@uninspiredcup said:

@kittennose said:

First off: Who cares about Kotaku. That is like getting slammed by Molyneux or Pacter.

That said, when I hear talk about Destiny alls I think is: "So you are going to revolutionize Borderlands 2 by copy and pasting everything but that which made it unique? Yep, sounds like a Halo Dev to me." So freaking thank you for showing me I think like Kotaku. I am going to go find booze until I forgot.

Borderlands 2 is Diablo ripoff. But shit.

Wow, hermies what's up with that? Whenever a good console only game comes out than it's always a "ripoff" of a famous PC game.

Because that usually is the case. Either the genre or the game.

Look at the biggest console genre atm, FPS, it's from PC and most variations and sub-genres of FPS are from PC....there is no denying this. Borderlands 2 takes off heavily from PC arpg/fps, and Destiny seems like a cross between borderlands and PlanetSide (another pc fps).

Get used to it, it happens every gen. Consoles do stay original when it comes to platformers/fighters though.

#188 Posted by RimacBugatti (1170 posts) -

@uninspiredcup: Personally I think Shadow of the Beast will be a better game than Destiny although I haven't seen much on Shadow of the Beast lately.

#189 Edited by uninspiredcup (6843 posts) -

@console_caesar said:

@uninspiredcup said:

@kittennose said:

First off: Who cares about Kotaku. That is like getting slammed by Molyneux or Pacter.

That said, when I hear talk about Destiny alls I think is: "So you are going to revolutionize Borderlands 2 by copy and pasting everything but that which made it unique? Yep, sounds like a Halo Dev to me." So freaking thank you for showing me I think like Kotaku. I am going to go find booze until I forgot.

Borderlands 2 is Diablo ripoff. But shit.

Wow, hermies what's up with that? Whenever a good console only game comes out than it's always a "ripoff" of a famous PC game. And of course you guys find the game boring, it's not on PC so it must suck, right? Way to be a Snobby McSnobbinger.

My friend, you appear to be living in a magical whimsical land in which all good things didn't derive from pc. Most console gamers are incredibly grateful at how pc gamers raised the platform from excellent 2d platformers and fighting games to Call Of Duty and it's upcoming sequel.

This mission was undertaken for a love of the classic Diablo game play loop – kill stuff, get loot, kill stuff better. That love means that "you’ll definitely see a lot of influences in Borderlands from that kind of gameplay," as Pitchord explained.

#190 Edited by Cranler (7739 posts) -

@cooolio said:

@Cranler said:

@cooolio said:

@Cranler said:

@cooolio said:

@Cranler said:

@cooolio said:

@Cranler said:

@cooolio said:

@Cranler said:

@SNIPER4321 said:

@Cranler said:

Stalker had the best open world gunplay for it's time. Far Cry 3 has better ai, better movement and the cover system destroys Stalkers leaning.

Crysis 1 isn't true open world and the ai there is even worse than Stalker.

I was implying that mp shooter enthusiasts hate arena shooters. You hate mp in general it seems.

lol cover system. one of the worst mechanic ever. lean and peak is always better. cover make game too easy.

crysis 1 on delta has some of the best AI ever.

How does a cover system make a game easier?

Uncharted has best ai ever. Ai is either realistically shooting from cover or flanking and grenade flushing.

I am sorry but don't every say something that stupid again.

What shooter has better ai?

You do not say that you were talking about shooters specifically. Anyway, I would say TLOU, but then again, I do not play shooters like that. However, I know that Uncharteds ai is not that good.

What aspect of ai did you think I was speaking of?

So you never played Uncharted but you have an opinion on its ai?

Check out this vid. Riot shield guy tries to flank, there's grenade flush attempts and enemies retreat to more distant cover.

I never said that. I said that I do not play shooters like that, meaning that I do play many shooters. I have played 3 and 2, and the ai is nothing groundbreaking. They do not do anything that is drastically different and more advanced than other games have.

I never said it's ai a lot better than any other game just that it's the best. Feel free to post a vid of a shooter that has better ai.

Sigh... that is too much work my friend. Anyway plenty of fps do the same thing. Using grenades to flush out the player and flankers are not anything new, and Uncharted is not the best at it.

It took me less than a minute to find that youtube video. What game is the best at it then?

I have never posted an actual video from youtube before. Besides, the characteristics and behavior of the ai in the Uncharted games is nothing new to me. I do not have to try to convince because that is your opinion and the fact that you love the game may influence your opinion of the ai. I will never agree that it has the best ai because plenty of games have ai that does something that another game's ai does not, and there will be plenty of games in the future that will out do the simple ai in Uncharted and other games.

What difference does your youtube posting history have to do with it?

Of course games in the future will have better ai.

You still fail to name one game that has better ai.

#191 Posted by X_CAPCOM_X (6001 posts) -

@k--m--k said:

hur hur, every shooter game is the same

For the most part, yeah (unless you're including third person games, which have more capabilities than fps games).

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Stalker had the best open world gunplay for it's time. Far Cry 3 has better ai, better movement and the cover system destroys Stalkers leaning.

Crysis 1 isn't true open world and the ai there is even worse than Stalker.

I was implying that mp shooter enthusiasts hate arena shooters. You hate mp in general it seems.

lol cover system. one of the worst mechanic ever. lean and peak is always better. cover make game too easy.

crysis 1 on delta has some of the best AI ever.

How does a cover system make a game easier?

Uncharted has best ai ever. Ai is either realistically shooting from cover or flanking and grenade flushing.

I am sorry but don't every say something that stupid again.

What shooter has better ai?

You do not say that you were talking about shooters specifically. Anyway, I would say TLOU, but then again, I do not play shooters like that. However, I know that Uncharteds ai is not that good.

What aspect of ai did you think I was speaking of?

So you never played Uncharted but you have an opinion on its ai?

Check out this vid. Riot shield guy tries to flank, there's grenade flush attempts and enemies retreat to more distant cover.

I never said that. I said that I do not play shooters like that, meaning that I do play many shooters. I have played 3 and 2, and the ai is nothing groundbreaking. They do not do anything that is drastically different and more advanced than other games have.

I never said it's ai a lot better than any other game just that it's the best. Feel free to post a vid of a shooter that has better ai.

Sigh... that is too much work my friend. Anyway plenty of fps do the same thing. Using grenades to flush out the player and flankers are not anything new, and Uncharted is not the best at it.

It took me less than a minute to find that youtube video. What game is the best at it then?

I have never posted an actual video from youtube before. Besides, the characteristics and behavior of the ai in the Uncharted games is nothing new to me. I do not have to try to convince because that is your opinion and the fact that you love the game may influence your opinion of the ai. I will never agree that it has the best ai because plenty of games have ai that does something that another game's ai does not, and there will be plenty of games in the future that will out do the simple ai in Uncharted and other games.

What difference does your youtube posting history have to do with it?

Of course games in the future will have better ai.

You still fail to name one game that has better ai.

First off, you asked me to post a vid, so told you why I could not post the whole video and not just a link. I would like to list all MGS after 1 that were on consoles, TLOU, the first Bioshock 1 and 2, and Batman Arkaham City as games that showcased AI that was on par or even better than that of the Uncharted series.

MGS3 is a good example of the quality of the series Ai. I would say that the latest entry in the series pales in comparison. The guards are very alert. They respond to noise that is generated by your footsteps. They even check under the bed and the call in for support after seeing you.

Bioshock 1 and 2 have ai that actually focuses on self preservation. When health stations are near by, splicers will seek to heal themselves and they also jump into the nearest pull of water when they are lit on fire. Bisohock 2's one example of the improved ai present in Bioshock 2 is a brute splicer that actually picks up other enemy splicers and throws them at you.

Mr. Freeze is the best that Arkham City has to offer in terms of ai. The fact that he makes sure to alter the objects in the environment that you have used to attack him can be seen as something of simple design, but I feel it is much deeper than that. For example, if you use an exploding wall to damage him he makes sure to freeze everyone that he sees. His ability to track your footprints is amazing too. Lesser enemies in Arkham City may be dumb for not seeing you above in areas that do not seem dark, but they make sure to utilize all their equipment like their heat detection goggles and mines.

Honestly, the only real thing that I believe that TLOU beats Uncharted in in terms of ai is the balance of power system. However, It is not executed well. Actually, I will say that Uncharted's ai is better, but we will see once the new difficulty is added.

#193 Posted by uninspiredcup (6843 posts) -

@k--m--k said:

hur hur, every shooter game is the same

For the most part, yeah (unless you're including third person games, which have more capabilities than fps games).

Moar like, des.. shitty. Because it's not very good.

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#195 Posted by super600 (29954 posts) -

Don;t revive threads were no one has posted in them for two months to the user that posted before me.