How many of you would be fine with nintendo focusing solely on handhelds?

If Nintendo did follow the philosophy of the beginning of the Wii's lifecycle, they wouldn't be in this mess. Instead they went to follow the Gamecubes Philosophy and look what's happening to them.

Sean Malstrom was right again that Nintendo would stumble on the Wii U beginning of launch.

FireEmblem_Man

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If Nintendo did follow the philosophy of the beginning of the Wii's lifecycle, they wouldn't be in this mess. Instead they went to follow the Gamecubes Philosophy and look what's happening to them.

Sean Malstrom was right again that Nintendo would stumble on the Wii U beginning of launch.

nintendoboy16

Sean says that Nintendo would be better off not making games at all, and venture something else.

Wouldn't bother me. I had no plans on buying the Wiiu, but the wife bought 1. I would of been fine without it. Heil68

No you wouldn't silly, the Wii U your wife bought would be a safety net in case Sony ends up flopping with the PS4 ;)

[QUOTE="Heil68"]Wouldn't bother me. I had no plans on buying the Wiiu, but the wife bought 1. I would of been fine without it. FireEmblem_Man

No you wouldn't silly, the Wii U your wife bought would be a safety net in case Sony ends up flopping with the PS4 ;)

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If Nintendo did follow the philosophy of the beginning of the Wii's lifecycle, they wouldn't be in this mess. Instead they went to follow the Gamecubes Philosophy and look what's happening to them.

Sean Malstrom was right again that Nintendo would stumble on the Wii U beginning of launch.

FireEmblem_Man

Sean says that Nintendo would be better off not making games at all, and venture something else.

Why not.

They are not needed in the console arena so they might as well just go full handheld.

Handhelds(LOL) are still meh but at least they will be in their niche.

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[QUOTE="Heil68"]Wouldn't bother me. I had no plans on buying the Wiiu, but the wife bought 1. I would of been fine without it. Heil68

No you wouldn't silly, the Wii U your wife bought would be a safety net in case Sony ends up flopping with the PS4 ;)

Why do I need a PS4, when I have a PC to play all my games on silly :P Also, Sony's first party doesn't really interest me :(

Why not.

They are not needed in the console arena so they might as well just go full handheld.

Handhelds(LOL) are still meh but at least they will be in their niche.

Rockman999

[QUOTE="FireEmblem_Man"]

If Nintendo did follow the philosophy of the beginning of the Wii's lifecycle, they wouldn't be in this mess. Instead they went to follow the Gamecubes Philosophy and look what's happening to them.

Sean Malstrom was right again that Nintendo would stumble on the Wii U beginning of launch.

nintendoboy16

I'm not quite on the same page as him, although he does predict and analyze better than anyone in the game industry. He's more reliable than Michael Patcher. He doesn't always criticize Nintendo, it's the game industry that he despises more. Especially Western developers that didn't support Nintendo because of their ego's.

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Why not.

They are not needed in the console arena so they might as well just go full handheld.

Handhelds(LOL) are still meh but at least they will be in their niche.

Shinobishyguy

All handhelds are.

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Why not.

They are not needed in the console arena so they might as well just go full handheld.

Handhelds(LOL) are still meh but at least they will be in their niche.

Rockman999

All handhelds are.

[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="FireEmblem_Man"]

No you wouldn't silly, the Wii U your wife bought would be a safety net in case Sony ends up flopping with the PS4 ;)

FireEmblem_Man

Why do I need a PS4, when I have a PC to play all my games on silly :P Also, Sony's first party doesn't really interest me :(

I'd be fine with that. They can release all their other games on PS4/Nextbox

BPoole96

Looking at how they are handling 8th gen, i could agree with this.

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[QUOTE="Heil68"] Arent you getting the PS4 day 1?Heil68

Why do I need a PS4, when I have a PC to play all my games on silly :P Also, Sony's first party doesn't really interest me :(

I hope we can still be friends :(

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[QUOTE="FireEmblem_Man"]

If Nintendo did follow the philosophy of the beginning of the Wii's lifecycle, they wouldn't be in this mess. Instead they went to follow the Gamecubes Philosophy and look what's happening to them.

Sean Malstrom was right again that Nintendo would stumble on the Wii U beginning of launch.

FireEmblem_Man

 He's more reliable than Michael Patcher. .

But what will all the children play, won't some one please think of the children !!!!Jack-Burton

That's what the Xbox is for.

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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"] Nintendo handhelds sure as hell aren't mehShinobishyguy

All handhelds are.

Like that's anything to brag about?

Shinobishyguy

Nintendo having low January sales is something to brag about when you cater to the wrong audience.

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="Rockman999"]They are.

All handhelds are.

Rockman999

No. I want more Nintendo console games, not less. Going 3rd party would be great tho.locopatho

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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]not really no. Practically every nintendo handheld has had a killer lineup of great games.Shinobishyguy

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="Rockman999"]Ha ha that's cute.

Rockman999

If they're not your cup of tea that's one thing, but the games are still there. Can't just plug your ears and pretend they don't exist ;)

Not really no. Despite the fact that NIntendo consoles generally lacking in comparison to competitors, I've still gotten so great use and playtime out of every Nintendo console. 

I wouldn't like it, since their franchises sometimes just need to be on a big screen with console-sized horsepower, but it wouldn't be the worst thing they could do.

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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"] facts are cute? Okay thenShinobishyguy

If they're not your cup of tea that's one thing, but the games are still there. Can't just plug your ears and pretend they don't exist ;)

Maybe you should learn the difference between the two.

I'd be fine with that. They can release all their other games on PS4/Nextbox

BPoole96

that would be a dream come true to actuallly see a zelda and metroid game with amazing graphics, animations, and physics to enchance the overall experience.

Nintendo would make a ton of money with handheld and 3rd party games only. They wouldn't have to worry about losing money on consoles.

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[QUOTE="Rockman999"]Facts, where?

 

Rockman999

If they're not your cup of tea that's one thing, but the games are still there. Can't just plug your ears and pretend they don't exist ;)

Maybe you should learn the difference between the two.

Then start looking up the game libraries and review scores.  Your trying too hard to hate

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[QUOTE="Rockman999"]Facts, where?

 

Rockman999

If they're not your cup of tea that's one thing, but the games are still there. Can't just plug your ears and pretend they don't exist ;)

Maybe you should learn the difference between the two.

I wouldn't mind MS and Sony disappearing and Ninty going handhelds.
PC + good Ninty handheld would be cool.

(Can't we already kind of do this anyway?)

[QUOTE="locopatho"]No. I want more Nintendo console games, not less. Going 3rd party would be great tho.Shinobishyguy

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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]Gameboy, Gameboy color, Gameboy advance, DS and by the looks of it the 3DS. All had great libraries.

If they're not your cup of tea that's one thing, but the games are still there. Can't just plug your ears and pretend they don't exist ;)

Shinobishyguy

Maybe you should learn the difference between the two.

I'd prefer it if they only focused on consoles. At least with their consoles they just sit in the corner doing their own thing without disturbing Sony and Microsofts systems. However with handhelds they do nothing but hold gaming back.

I don't want all of my Nintendo games on a handheld.

I don't think there has ever been a Nintendo system not worth owning. Obviously the Wii U is having a rough start, but Nintendo is pretty self-sufficient, so I don't think it'll fail.

I'd prefer it if they only focused on consoles. At least with their consoles they just sit in the corner doing their own thing without disturbing Sony and Microsofts systems. However with handhelds they do nothing but hold gaming back.

burgeg

I don't want all of my Nintendo games on a handheld.

I don't think there has ever been a Nintendo system not worth owning. Obviously the Wii U is having a rough start, but Nintendo is pretty self-sufficient, so I don't think it'll fail.

Ly_the_Fairy

Hmmm I don't know.   On one hand they do do handhelds better and I am not overly enthusiastic about their approach to consoles (since the Wii), but on the other hand I still want to see Zelda, Metroid and more in beautiful current gen (lastish gen sorta I guess :P) graphics and so on.  I guess it depends if the WiiU proves they pulled their head out of their *** somewhat or not.  I wish they would realize they are not the only ones targeting casuals (as well as cores) anymore, and that the Xbox brand has that pretty well covered, which leaves them with an underpowered console many don't want.  I will buy it almost certainly though when the games come (this Fall).

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I don't want all of my Nintendo games on a handheld.

I don't think there has ever been a Nintendo system not worth owning. Obviously the Wii U is having a rough start, but Nintendo is pretty self-sufficient, so I don't think it'll fail.

JamDev

I think Nintendo is in a position where not only does their software sell their hardware, but their hardware sells their software.

I don't think Nintendo could sell as much software without building their own hardware to support it.

Honestly? Yes. As much as i'd love to see some massively advanced Nintendo console... It's not what they are aiming for.

However, that being said, i'd miss games such as Xenoblade and The Last Story in their current form... Assuming it isn't done equally well on handhelds.

Honestly? Yes. As much as i'd love to see some massively advanced Nintendo console... It's not what they are aiming for.

However, that being said, i'd miss games such as Xenoblade and The Last Story in their current form... Assuming it isn't done equally well on handhelds.

lundy86_4

Nah, but I do believe that Ninty shines brightest by far on them.

I won't say that it hasn't gotten lucky off of it though in some fashion. Their handheld market only looks good right about now because it had relatively little resistance to push them toward any other more awkward and stupid decisions. That is to say that their handhelds are just as weird and outright dumb as their consoles at least specs and gimmicks wise, but none of that matters when you are relatively the only market out there on a fairly conservative product compared to consoles.

Now if Ninty ever had competition here that was actually worth fighting against (Sony just started a few years back and still hasn't gotten close iirc) you guys may have sang a different tune. Yeah  "the games..." but if they were contended you wouldn't have thought the same at all about them as you do now considering all the third party exclusive losses and such. Maybe the phone market this time around considering the handheld market is shrinking by a good amount, but I don't feel that its really about that completely nor that it will do much at all to handhelds.

That's the problem Ninty is having with its consoles because they actually have competition, and on a more "serious" and more risky product as well. Hence why a still fairly good amount think its fine for them to go to handhelds.

Not hating or anything considering this is all hypothetical for the handhelds, but just saying. Luckily their games more than make up for their otherwise kind of crappy tech and fairly awkward ideas with rather backwards Nintendo only problems.

Nintendo needs to get back to what made them great in the first place. Stop releasing gimmicky consoles and create worthwhile games that can appeal to both the hardcore and the casuals. Casual gamers are too fickle to base your entire business on, Microsoft will soon learn this if they try to push kinect with the Nextbox. Right now tablets and smartphones has engrossed most of casual gamers and I'm not sure if having a standalone gaming device as the center product will help them in the future years to come.KillaCattle

I agree with the first sentence and first sentence only. What is ironic is that many say that Nintendo needs to go back to its roots, while not realizing exactly what Nintendo's roots are. The "hardcore/casual" stigmas have become so ingrained into the industry's dictionary, it has lost sight of the common denominators that have made all of Nintendo's most successful system what they are. The NES, GameBoy, DS, and Wii, while years apart, were all cut from the same philosophical cloth, and that's Nintendo expanding the market through innovative gaming concepts designed to ease newcomers into the fold, while still being pratical enough for more experienced players. And as the industry continues to focus on only becoming more complex and catered to a very specific audience, this is where Nintendo will always have a place in the console and handheld market, as they can be that very reasonable and viable alternative, doing what it has historically done best. However, Nintendo has to actually stick with that gameplan, which it hasn't done the past few years.

People see Nintendo's golden days as the SNES, when that was actually when Nintendo started to take a step backwards. Games become more 'advanced,' while Nintendo's market began to shrink and competitors began to outmanuver Nintendo in areas where the company could never excel. The Wii U follows that downward approach, but not because of "gimmicks" or "casual gamers." If anything, the Wii U isn't innovative or accessible enough as we speak, and Nintendo simply can't hope to beat Sony and Microsoft at their own high-priced games. That's why third party support for the Wii U is already in such a pitiful state. Not to mention that what existing Nintendo consumers demand from gaming experiences and what the rest of the industry offer doesn't mesh together very well. Still, it's not so much the matter of people moving on to smartphones and tablets as much as it is that Nintendo has made some bad moves over the past few years handling its systems that just haven't interested anyone enough outside the diehard Nintendo fan.

So yeah, Nintendo consoles still have a place... but not with a Wii U-like approach in mind.

I would be unhappy about that. Nintendo's developers have talent. They've managed to produce some of the best games of last gen on severely limited hardware. Level design and creativity isn't something that can be learned and that's why I still want my Nintendo 1st party console experiences. Nintendo are master game makers and I feel they might struggle if they had to go console third party.

Nintendo's offerings on the handhelds have been great, but theynever compare to the games the put out on their console. A good example of this would be Super Mario 3D Land vs Super Mario Galaxy 2. Both great games by the same developer, but one is clearly superior to the other.