How many of you would be fine with nintendo focusing solely on handhelds?

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#51 Posted by Heil68 (43244 posts) -
Wouldn't bother me. I had no plans on buying the Wiiu, but the wife bought 1. I would of been fine without it.
#52 Posted by nintendoboy16 (26115 posts) -

If Nintendo did follow the philosophy of the beginning of the Wii's lifecycle, they wouldn't be in this mess. Instead they went to follow the Gamecubes Philosophy and look what's happening to them.

Sean Malstrom was right again that Nintendo would stumble on the Wii U beginning of launch.

FireEmblem_Man

Have to wonder, what does Sean think about what would happen to Ninty if they did go third party? Did he ever write blogs on that?

#53 Posted by FireEmblem_Man (8566 posts) -

[QUOTE="FireEmblem_Man"]

If Nintendo did follow the philosophy of the beginning of the Wii's lifecycle, they wouldn't be in this mess. Instead they went to follow the Gamecubes Philosophy and look what's happening to them.

Sean Malstrom was right again that Nintendo would stumble on the Wii U beginning of launch.

nintendoboy16

Have to wonder, what does Sean think about what would happen to Ninty if they did go third party? Did he ever write blogs on that?

Sean says that Nintendo would be better off not making games at all, and venture something else.

#54 Posted by FireEmblem_Man (8566 posts) -

Wouldn't bother me. I had no plans on buying the Wiiu, but the wife bought 1. I would of been fine without it. Heil68

No you wouldn't silly, the Wii U your wife bought would be a safety net in case Sony ends up flopping with the PS4 ;)

#55 Posted by sammyjenkis898 (28010 posts) -
Sure. They don't deliver in the console department.
#56 Posted by Heil68 (43244 posts) -

[QUOTE="Heil68"]Wouldn't bother me. I had no plans on buying the Wiiu, but the wife bought 1. I would of been fine without it. FireEmblem_Man

No you wouldn't silly, the Wii U your wife bought would be a safety net in case Sony ends up flopping with the PS4 ;)

Arent you getting the PS4 day 1?
#57 Posted by nintendoboy16 (26115 posts) -

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]

[QUOTE="FireEmblem_Man"]

If Nintendo did follow the philosophy of the beginning of the Wii's lifecycle, they wouldn't be in this mess. Instead they went to follow the Gamecubes Philosophy and look what's happening to them.

Sean Malstrom was right again that Nintendo would stumble on the Wii U beginning of launch.

FireEmblem_Man

Have to wonder, what does Sean think about what would happen to Ninty if they did go third party? Did he ever write blogs on that?

Sean says that Nintendo would be better off not making games at all, and venture something else.

Looks like he and I are on the same page again. :P

#58 Posted by Rockman999 (7232 posts) -

Why not.

They are not needed in the console arena so they might as well just go full handheld.

Handhelds(LOL) are still meh but at least they will be in their niche.

#59 Posted by Jack-Burton (2303 posts) -
But what will all the children play, won't some one please think of the children !!!!
#60 Posted by FireEmblem_Man (8566 posts) -

[QUOTE="FireEmblem_Man"]

[QUOTE="Heil68"]Wouldn't bother me. I had no plans on buying the Wiiu, but the wife bought 1. I would of been fine without it. Heil68

No you wouldn't silly, the Wii U your wife bought would be a safety net in case Sony ends up flopping with the PS4 ;)

Arent you getting the PS4 day 1?

Why do I need a PS4, when I have a PC to play all my games on silly :P Also, Sony's first party doesn't really interest me :(

#61 Posted by Shinobishyguy (22358 posts) -

Why not.

They are not needed in the console arena so they might as well just go full handheld.

Handhelds(LOL) are still meh but at least they will be in their niche.

Rockman999
Nintendo handhelds sure as hell aren't meh
#62 Posted by FireEmblem_Man (8566 posts) -

[QUOTE="FireEmblem_Man"]

If Nintendo did follow the philosophy of the beginning of the Wii's lifecycle, they wouldn't be in this mess. Instead they went to follow the Gamecubes Philosophy and look what's happening to them.

Sean Malstrom was right again that Nintendo would stumble on the Wii U beginning of launch.

nintendoboy16

Have to wonder, what does Sean think about what would happen to Ninty if they did go third party? Did he ever write blogs on that?

I'm not quite on the same page as him, although he does predict and analyze better than anyone in the game industry. He's more reliable than Michael Patcher. He doesn't always criticize Nintendo, it's the game industry that he despises more. Especially Western developers that didn't support Nintendo because of their ego's.

#63 Posted by Rockman999 (7232 posts) -

[QUOTE="Rockman999"]

Why not.

They are not needed in the console arena so they might as well just go full handheld.

Handhelds(LOL) are still meh but at least they will be in their niche.

Shinobishyguy

Nintendo handhelds sure as hell aren't meh

They are.

All handhelds are.

#64 Posted by Shinobishyguy (22358 posts) -

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="Rockman999"]

Why not.

They are not needed in the console arena so they might as well just go full handheld.

Handhelds(LOL) are still meh but at least they will be in their niche.

Rockman999

Nintendo handhelds sure as hell aren't meh

They are.

All handhelds are.

not really no. Practically every nintendo handheld has had a killer lineup of great games.
#65 Posted by Heil68 (43244 posts) -

[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="FireEmblem_Man"]

No you wouldn't silly, the Wii U your wife bought would be a safety net in case Sony ends up flopping with the PS4 ;)

FireEmblem_Man

Arent you getting the PS4 day 1?

Why do I need a PS4, when I have a PC to play all my games on silly :P Also, Sony's first party doesn't really interest me :(

you're..you're....you're POOP
#66 Posted by PAL360 (26647 posts) -

I'd be fine with that. They can release all their other games on PS4/Nextbox

BPoole96

Looking at how they are handling 8th gen, i could agree with this.

#67 Posted by FireEmblem_Man (8566 posts) -

[QUOTE="FireEmblem_Man"]

[QUOTE="Heil68"] Arent you getting the PS4 day 1?Heil68

Why do I need a PS4, when I have a PC to play all my games on silly :P Also, Sony's first party doesn't really interest me :(

you're..you're....you're POOP

I hope we can still be friends :(

#68 Posted by Shinobishyguy (22358 posts) -

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]

[QUOTE="FireEmblem_Man"]

If Nintendo did follow the philosophy of the beginning of the Wii's lifecycle, they wouldn't be in this mess. Instead they went to follow the Gamecubes Philosophy and look what's happening to them.

Sean Malstrom was right again that Nintendo would stumble on the Wii U beginning of launch.

FireEmblem_Man

Have to wonder, what does Sean think about what would happen to Ninty if they did go third party? Did he ever write blogs on that?

 He's more reliable than Michael Patcher. .

Like that's anything to brag about?

#69 Posted by Speedzilla (1756 posts) -

But what will all the children play, won't some one please think of the children !!!!Jack-Burton

That's what the Xbox is for.

#70 Posted by Rockman999 (7232 posts) -

[QUOTE="Rockman999"]

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"] Nintendo handhelds sure as hell aren't mehShinobishyguy

They are.

All handhelds are.

not really no. Practically every nintendo handheld has had a killer lineup of great games.

Ha ha that's cute.

#71 Posted by locopatho (20131 posts) -
No. I want more Nintendo console games, not less. Going 3rd party would be great tho.
#72 Posted by FireEmblem_Man (8566 posts) -

Like that's anything to brag about?

Shinobishyguy

Nintendo having low January sales is something to brag about when you cater to the wrong audience.

#73 Posted by Shinobishyguy (22358 posts) -

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="Rockman999"]They are.

All handhelds are.

Rockman999

not really no. Practically every nintendo handheld has had a killer lineup of great games.

Ha ha that's cute.

facts are cute? Okay then
#74 Posted by Shinobishyguy (22358 posts) -
No. I want more Nintendo console games, not less. Going 3rd party would be great tho.locopatho
You would still get all of the nintendo games you know and love, they'd just be on handhelds
#75 Posted by Rockman999 (7232 posts) -

[QUOTE="Rockman999"]

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]not really no. Practically every nintendo handheld has had a killer lineup of great games.Shinobishyguy

Ha ha that's cute.

facts are cute? Okay then

Facts, where?

 

#76 Posted by Shinobishyguy (22358 posts) -

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="Rockman999"]Ha ha that's cute.

Rockman999

facts are cute? Okay then

Facts, where?

 

Gameboy, Gameboy color, Gameboy advance, DS and by the looks of it the 3DS. All had great libraries.

If they're not your cup of tea that's one thing, but the games are still there. Can't just plug your ears and pretend they don't exist ;)

#77 Posted by DJ-Lafleur (34123 posts) -

Not really no. Despite the fact that NIntendo consoles generally lacking in comparison to competitors, I've still gotten so great use and playtime out of every Nintendo console. 

#78 Posted by Cherokee_Jack (32198 posts) -

I wouldn't like it, since their franchises sometimes just need to be on a big screen with console-sized horsepower, but it wouldn't be the worst thing they could do.

#79 Posted by Rockman999 (7232 posts) -

[QUOTE="Rockman999"]

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"] facts are cute? Okay thenShinobishyguy

Facts, where?

 

Gameboy, Gameboy color, Gameboy advance, DS and by the looks of it the 3DS. All had great libraries.

If they're not your cup of tea that's one thing, but the games are still there. Can't just plug your ears and pretend they don't exist ;)

All I see is opinion, no fact.

Maybe you should learn the difference between the two.

#80 Posted by SonySoldier-_- (713 posts) -

I'd be fine with that. They can release all their other games on PS4/Nextbox

BPoole96

that would be a dream come true to actuallly see a zelda and metroid game with amazing graphics, animations, and physics to enchance the overall experience.

Nintendo would make a ton of money with handheld and 3rd party games only. They wouldn't have to worry about losing money on consoles.

#81 Posted by enzyme36 (1451 posts) -

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]

[QUOTE="Rockman999"]Facts, where?

 

Rockman999

Gameboy, Gameboy color, Gameboy advance, DS and by the looks of it the 3DS. All had great libraries.

If they're not your cup of tea that's one thing, but the games are still there. Can't just plug your ears and pretend they don't exist ;)

All I see is opinion, no fact.

Maybe you should learn the difference between the two.

 

Then start looking up the game libraries and review scores.  Your trying too hard to hate

#82 Posted by Shinobishyguy (22358 posts) -

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]

[QUOTE="Rockman999"]Facts, where?

 

Rockman999

Gameboy, Gameboy color, Gameboy advance, DS and by the looks of it the 3DS. All had great libraries.

If they're not your cup of tea that's one thing, but the games are still there. Can't just plug your ears and pretend they don't exist ;)

All I see is opinion, no fact.

Maybe you should learn the difference between the two.

objectively speaking they did all have great libraries. Hell you might as well say the ps2 didn't have a good library while your at it
#83 Posted by AmazonTreeBoa (16744 posts) -
I don't like their consoles, but like their handhelds. So yes I am fine with it.
#84 Posted by KungfuKitten (20768 posts) -

I wouldn't mind MS and Sony disappearing and Ninty going handhelds.
PC + good Ninty handheld would be cool.

(Can't we already kind of do this anyway?)

#85 Posted by JamDev (970 posts) -
Sounds like a win win to me. Nintendo fans could still play the quality in house Nintendo games without having to pay over the odds for otherwise redundant hardware and lems/cows/hermits would gain access to the Nintendo library.
#86 Posted by locopatho (20131 posts) -
[QUOTE="locopatho"]No. I want more Nintendo console games, not less. Going 3rd party would be great tho.Shinobishyguy
You would still get all of the nintendo games you know and love, they'd just be on handhelds

I don't play handhelds. I play games on my giant plasma TV, not an itty bitty low res handheld.
#87 Posted by Rockman999 (7232 posts) -

[QUOTE="Rockman999"]

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]Gameboy, Gameboy color, Gameboy advance, DS and by the looks of it the 3DS. All had great libraries.

If they're not your cup of tea that's one thing, but the games are still there. Can't just plug your ears and pretend they don't exist ;)

Shinobishyguy

All I see is opinion, no fact.

Maybe you should learn the difference between the two.

objectively speaking they did all have great libraries. Hell you might as well say the ps2 didn't have a good library while your at it

Dude I really don't care.

#88 Posted by burgeg (3599 posts) -

I'd prefer it if they only focused on consoles. At least with their consoles they just sit in the corner doing their own thing without disturbing Sony and Microsofts systems. However with handhelds they do nothing but hold gaming back.

#89 Posted by Ly_the_Fairy (8652 posts) -

I don't want all of my Nintendo games on a handheld.

I don't think there has ever been a Nintendo system not worth owning. Obviously the Wii U is having a rough start, but Nintendo is pretty self-sufficient, so I don't think it'll fail.

#90 Posted by Shinobishyguy (22358 posts) -

I'd prefer it if they only focused on consoles. At least with their consoles they just sit in the corner doing their own thing without disturbing Sony and Microsofts systems. However with handhelds they do nothing but hold gaming back.

burgeg
Gaming has been doing fine with Nintendo's handhelds co-exsisting with consoles for decades. They aren't holding anything back.
#91 Posted by JamDev (970 posts) -

I don't want all of my Nintendo games on a handheld.

I don't think there has ever been a Nintendo system not worth owning. Obviously the Wii U is having a rough start, but Nintendo is pretty self-sufficient, so I don't think it'll fail.

Ly_the_Fairy
Wouldn't it be better if Nintendo dropped out of the home console market but continued releasing games on consoles and PC? You could still play all the Nintendo games and gain access to the multi-plats that the Wii and Wii U miss out on.
#92 Posted by NaveedLife (17175 posts) -

Hmmm I don't know.   On one hand they do do handhelds better and I am not overly enthusiastic about their approach to consoles (since the Wii), but on the other hand I still want to see Zelda, Metroid and more in beautiful current gen (lastish gen sorta I guess :P) graphics and so on.  I guess it depends if the WiiU proves they pulled their head out of their *** somewhat or not.  I wish they would realize they are not the only ones targeting casuals (as well as cores) anymore, and that the Xbox brand has that pretty well covered, which leaves them with an underpowered console many don't want.  I will buy it almost certainly though when the games come (this Fall).

#93 Posted by Ly_the_Fairy (8652 posts) -

[QUOTE="Ly_the_Fairy"]

I don't want all of my Nintendo games on a handheld.

I don't think there has ever been a Nintendo system not worth owning. Obviously the Wii U is having a rough start, but Nintendo is pretty self-sufficient, so I don't think it'll fail.

JamDev

Wouldn't it be better if Nintendo dropped out of the home console market but continued releasing games on consoles and PC? You could still play all the Nintendo games and gain access to the multi-plats that the Wii and Wii U miss out on.

 

I think Nintendo is in a position where not only does their software sell their hardware, but their hardware sells their software.

I don't think Nintendo could sell as much software without building their own hardware to support it.

#94 Posted by lundy86_4 (42867 posts) -

Honestly? Yes. As much as i'd love to see some massively advanced Nintendo console... It's not what they are aiming for.

However, that being said, i'd miss games such as Xenoblade and The Last Story in their current form... Assuming it isn't done equally well on handhelds.

#95 Posted by Shinobishyguy (22358 posts) -

Honestly? Yes. As much as i'd love to see some massively advanced Nintendo console... It's not what they are aiming for.

However, that being said, i'd miss games such as Xenoblade and The Last Story in their current form... Assuming it isn't done equally well on handhelds.

lundy86_4
well I'm pretty sure there's going to be a handheld after the 3ds that could pull something like that off
#96 Posted by AznbkdX (3120 posts) -

Nah, but I do believe that Ninty shines brightest by far on them.

I won't say that it hasn't gotten lucky off of it though in some fashion. Their handheld market only looks good right about now because it had relatively little resistance to push them toward any other more awkward and stupid decisions. That is to say that their handhelds are just as weird and outright dumb as their consoles at least specs and gimmicks wise, but none of that matters when you are relatively the only market out there on a fairly conservative product compared to consoles.

Now if Ninty ever had competition here that was actually worth fighting against (Sony just started a few years back and still hasn't gotten close iirc) you guys may have sang a different tune. Yeah  "the games..." but if they were contended you wouldn't have thought the same at all about them as you do now considering all the third party exclusive losses and such. Maybe the phone market this time around considering the handheld market is shrinking by a good amount, but I don't feel that its really about that completely nor that it will do much at all to handhelds.

That's the problem Ninty is having with its consoles because they actually have competition, and on a more "serious" and more risky product as well. Hence why a still fairly good amount think its fine for them to go to handhelds.

Not hating or anything considering this is all hypothetical for the handhelds, but just saying. Luckily their games more than make up for their otherwise kind of crappy tech and fairly awkward ideas with rather backwards Nintendo only problems.

#97 Posted by genfactor (1462 posts) -
I prefer Nintendo consoles over others because of the exclusives. As long as Microsoft and Sony continue to release more powerful versions of the exact same system, the industry will need a Nintendo to give people a real choice between consoles even if it is the second choice.
#98 Posted by Madmangamer364 (3586 posts) -

Nintendo needs to get back to what made them great in the first place. Stop releasing gimmicky consoles and create worthwhile games that can appeal to both the hardcore and the casuals. Casual gamers are too fickle to base your entire business on, Microsoft will soon learn this if they try to push kinect with the Nextbox. Right now tablets and smartphones has engrossed most of casual gamers and I'm not sure if having a standalone gaming device as the center product will help them in the future years to come.KillaCattle

I agree with the first sentence and first sentence only. What is ironic is that many say that Nintendo needs to go back to its roots, while not realizing exactly what Nintendo's roots are. The "hardcore/casual" stigmas have become so ingrained into the industry's dictionary, it has lost sight of the common denominators that have made all of Nintendo's most successful system what they are. The NES, GameBoy, DS, and Wii, while years apart, were all cut from the same philosophical cloth, and that's Nintendo expanding the market through innovative gaming concepts designed to ease newcomers into the fold, while still being pratical enough for more experienced players. And as the industry continues to focus on only becoming more complex and catered to a very specific audience, this is where Nintendo will always have a place in the console and handheld market, as they can be that very reasonable and viable alternative, doing what it has historically done best. However, Nintendo has to actually stick with that gameplan, which it hasn't done the past few years.

People see Nintendo's golden days as the SNES, when that was actually when Nintendo started to take a step backwards. Games become more 'advanced,' while Nintendo's market began to shrink and competitors began to outmanuver Nintendo in areas where the company could never excel. The Wii U follows that downward approach, but not because of "gimmicks" or "casual gamers." If anything, the Wii U isn't innovative or accessible enough as we speak, and Nintendo simply can't hope to beat Sony and Microsoft at their own high-priced games. That's why third party support for the Wii U is already in such a pitiful state. Not to mention that what existing Nintendo consumers demand from gaming experiences and what the rest of the industry offer doesn't mesh together very well. Still, it's not so much the matter of people moving on to smartphones and tablets as much as it is that Nintendo has made some bad moves over the past few years handling its systems that just haven't interested anyone enough outside the diehard Nintendo fan.

So yeah, Nintendo consoles still have a place... but not with a Wii U-like approach in mind.

#99 Posted by Pikminmaniac (8701 posts) -

I would be unhappy about that. Nintendo's developers have talent. They've managed to produce some of the best games of last gen on severely limited hardware. Level design and creativity isn't something that can be learned and that's why I still want my Nintendo 1st party console experiences. Nintendo are master game makers and I feel they might struggle if they had to go console third party.

Nintendo's offerings on the handhelds have been great, but theynever compare to the games the put out on their console. A good example of this would be Super Mario 3D Land vs Super Mario Galaxy 2. Both great games by the same developer, but one is clearly superior to the other.

#100 Posted by darkziosj (166 posts) -
yes, much better games in the 3ds than wiiu.