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#1  Edited By mjorh
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with a GTX TITAN X you can play a game like battlefield 4 at minimum 30 fps on a 4k monitor , so when will we can play a game like witcher 3 on 8k monitor at 30 fps .... in a year , next two years , three years ?

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#2  Edited By DEadliNE-Zero0
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8K is still in extremely early stages. 4K will require about 2-3 more gpu gens to be obtainable properly 8Hopefully Pascal is the next big thing).

Also, 8K is 4x the UHD res. Lets' get this clear:

1080p is twice the overall resolution increase over 720p

4K is four times the increase over 1080p

So, you're asking about 8x the resolution of 1080p. A gigantic leap over the current standart, both in TVs and monitors.

You won't be seeing it properply for a long, long time.

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#3  Edited By Couth_
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1080p ~= 2.07 million pixels (1920x1080)

1440p ~= 3.7 million pixels (2560x1440)

4k ~= 8.3 million pixels (3840x2160)

8k ~= 33 million pixels (7680x4320)

That's a HUUUUGE jump OP.. The stupid naming doesn't do the differences justice.. They should start referring to them by megapixels but I reckon they didn't want to do that at first because at the time of release, 1080p's 2MP sounded completely poverty compared to cameras MP count

@deadline-zero0: 8k a 16x jump from 1080p

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#4 DEadliNE-Zero0
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@Couth_: well damm, my bad. There you go TC

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#5 mjorh
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@deadline-zero0: so won't you gimme a number ?

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#6 elkoldo
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Jesus 4k isn't enough for you herms?

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This is one of the reasons why streaming game services will never be viable.

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#8 FoxbatAlpha
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i just saw a 8k TV will be offered soon. Damn can they wait for people to catch up?

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#9 deactivated-5c8ff6a32bb23
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Forget 8K. When are we getting 16K?

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#10  Edited By Bigboi500
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pshh, 8k is for peasants. Gimme 64k or go home.

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#11 BobRossPerm
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@deadline-zero0 said:

8K is still in extremely early stages. 4K will require about 2-3 more gpu gens to be obtainable properly 8Hopefully Pascal is the next big thing).

Also, 8K is 4x the UHD res. Lets' get this clear:

1080p is twice the overall resolution increase over 720p

4K is four times the increase over 1080p

So, you're asking about 8x the resolution of 1080p. A gigantic leap over the current standart, both in TVs and monitors.

You won't be seeing it properply for a long, long time.

8k is 16 times 1080p.

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#12  Edited By GhoX
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I think high framerate 4K will become the norm a lot sooner than 8K. Right now the standard for framerate on PC is still 60, but soon 120/144 will become the norm, just like 1440p is gradually taking over 1080p.

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#13 blueinheaven
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The way things are going we will eventually get an ultra high super resolution that actually has better graphics than real life. That will be quite good I would imagine.

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I have a query.

Who here thinks they'll be happy with 4K being the norm and not needing a jump in resolution...at least for a long while.

I get that bigger TVs require a better resolution but surely 4K is good for a standard 55 inch HDTV.....right?

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@AM-Gamer said:

This is one of the reasons why streaming game services will never be viable.

lol stuck at subpar resolution for streaming.

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#16 santoron
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It'll be possible for niche enthusiasts with mega disposable income within three years at playable frame rates.

It'll never come to the masses. 4k is going to be a really tough sell to most consumers. 8k is just stupid.

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#17  Edited By KungfuKitten
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@elkoldo said:

Jesus 4k isn't enough for you herms?

For proper VR 8k is not as high as you eventually want to get. We probably switch to triangular pixels by then.
I think we'll hook the visuals up to our nervous system before we'd get to 100k resolution VR goggles.

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#18 blueinheaven
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@mr_huggles_dog said:

I have a query.

Who here thinks they'll be happy with 4K being the norm and not needing a jump in resolution...at least for a long while.

I get that bigger TVs require a better resolution but surely 4K is good for a standard 55 inch HDTV.....right?

You will need a bigger TV than that to appreciate 4K resolution. You should worry more about having a PC that can effortlessly play games at 4K and a high frame rate that is only just about achievable now at high cost.

I'm actually quite happy playing at 1440p on PC and 1080p on PS4 for now.

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#19  Edited By Mr_Huggles_dog
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@blueinheaven said:

@mr_huggles_dog said:

I have a query.

Who here thinks they'll be happy with 4K being the norm and not needing a jump in resolution...at least for a long while.

I get that bigger TVs require a better resolution but surely 4K is good for a standard 55 inch HDTV.....right?

You will need a bigger TV than that to appreciate 4K resolution. You should worry more about having a PC that can effortlessly play games at 4K and a high frame rate that is only just about achievable now at high cost.

I'm actually quite happy playing at 1440p on PC and 1080p on PS4 for now.

As far as my PC and PS4 goes...I've only played at 1080p on a 32inch HDTV.

So I would think 4K on it would blow my mind. (edit: well....if I had a 32inch 4K HDTV)

I was wondering how big a HDTV you would need to make 4K look not as good as 4K on say my TV.

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#20  Edited By deactivated-59d151f079814
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1080p for me is the golden resolution in my eyes.. I really don't see my self moving up to 1440p or 4k inless hardware is just that crazy far ahead that software demands is nonexistent.

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#21 blueinheaven
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@mr_huggles_dog said:

@blueinheaven said:

@mr_huggles_dog said:

I have a query.

Who here thinks they'll be happy with 4K being the norm and not needing a jump in resolution...at least for a long while.

I get that bigger TVs require a better resolution but surely 4K is good for a standard 55 inch HDTV.....right?

You will need a bigger TV than that to appreciate 4K resolution. You should worry more about having a PC that can effortlessly play games at 4K and a high frame rate that is only just about achievable now at high cost.

I'm actually quite happy playing at 1440p on PC and 1080p on PS4 for now.

As far as my PC and PS4 goes...I've only played at 1080p on a 32inch HDTV.

So I would think 4K on it would blow my mind. (edit: well....if I had a 32inch 4K HDTV)

I was wondering how big a HDTV you would need to make 4K look not as good as 4K on say my TV.

It doesn't really work that way. 4K on your TV would be a complete waste. You could go way, way bigger than that with 4K and it will still look absolutely amazing. The point of much higher resolution is you can have much bigger screens and you don't lose any detail.

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#22  Edited By Mr_Huggles_dog
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@blueinheaven said:

@mr_huggles_dog said:

@blueinheaven said:

@mr_huggles_dog said:

I have a query.

Who here thinks they'll be happy with 4K being the norm and not needing a jump in resolution...at least for a long while.

I get that bigger TVs require a better resolution but surely 4K is good for a standard 55 inch HDTV.....right?

You will need a bigger TV than that to appreciate 4K resolution. You should worry more about having a PC that can effortlessly play games at 4K and a high frame rate that is only just about achievable now at high cost.

I'm actually quite happy playing at 1440p on PC and 1080p on PS4 for now.

As far as my PC and PS4 goes...I've only played at 1080p on a 32inch HDTV.

So I would think 4K on it would blow my mind. (edit: well....if I had a 32inch 4K HDTV)

I was wondering how big a HDTV you would need to make 4K look not as good as 4K on say my TV.

It doesn't really work that way. 4K on your TV would be a complete waste. You could go way, way bigger than that with 4K and it will still look absolutely amazing. The point of much higher resolution is you can have much bigger screens and you don't lose any detail.

From what you say...I'm guessing 4K will be just fine for me for a long while.

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#23 commander
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@KungfuKitten said:

@elkoldo said:

Jesus 4k isn't enough for you herms?

For proper VR 8k is not as high as you eventually want to get. We probably switch to triangular pixels by then.

I think we'll hook the visuals up to our nervous system before we'd get to 100k resolution VR goggles.

lol didn't even knew you already had 8k tv's , or that is was already possible.

I do think that VR will bring this resolution race in a new gear though.

But neverous system, that's a long long time from now

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@mr_huggles_dog said:

@blueinheaven said:

@mr_huggles_dog said:

@blueinheaven said:

@mr_huggles_dog said:

I have a query.

Who here thinks they'll be happy with 4K being the norm and not needing a jump in resolution...at least for a long while.

I get that bigger TVs require a better resolution but surely 4K is good for a standard 55 inch HDTV.....right?

You will need a bigger TV than that to appreciate 4K resolution. You should worry more about having a PC that can effortlessly play games at 4K and a high frame rate that is only just about achievable now at high cost.

I'm actually quite happy playing at 1440p on PC and 1080p on PS4 for now.

As far as my PC and PS4 goes...I've only played at 1080p on a 32inch HDTV.

So I would think 4K on it would blow my mind. (edit: well....if I had a 32inch 4K HDTV)

I was wondering how big a HDTV you would need to make 4K look not as good as 4K on say my TV.

It doesn't really work that way. 4K on your TV would be a complete waste. You could go way, way bigger than that with 4K and it will still look absolutely amazing. The point of much higher resolution is you can have much bigger screens and you don't lose any detail.

From what you say...I'm guessing 4K will be just fine for me for a long while.

At a rough guess I'm saying about 6 or 7 years. It will take that long for 4K TV's to be the norm. Then the next big thing whatever that is ( maybe 8K?) will be annoying people into thinking they need something they haven't got as is the way with all steps forward in technology. We want what we haven't got. Why we want it doesn't really matter, whether we need it or not is even less important. And so in this way the world spins... round and round we go...

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Is it necessary? Odeon's UK digital cinema screens are 8k. Do we need them at home?

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8K? Im waiting on 24K. Then I'll upgrade

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8k? Shit... I'm so far behind.

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#28 darklight4
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I was watching a documentary that mentioned that the human eye can only see up to a certain resolution, dunno what the limit is. So eventually resolution upgrades will stop as there will be no point.

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#29 Couth_
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@darklight4 said:

I was watching a documentary that mentioned that the human eye can only see up to a certain resolution, dunno what the limit is. So eventually resolution upgrades will stop as there will be no point.

Damn you saw it in a documentary. I guess thats it then

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#30 darklight4
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@Couth_ said:

@darklight4 said:

I was watching a documentary that mentioned that the human eye can only see up to a certain resolution, dunno what the limit is. So eventually resolution upgrades will stop as there will be no point.

Damn you saw it in a documentary. I guess thats it then

Don't be an ass. If I could remember said documentary I would tell you though it could have been those gadget shows on TV it was awhile ago.

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@darklight4 said:

I was watching a documentary that mentioned that the human eye can only see up to a certain resolution, dunno what the limit is. So eventually resolution upgrades will stop as there will be no point.

No, we will eventually get graphics that are BETTER than real life. You will stop playing your videogame then go outside into the real world and say OMG these graphics suck!

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@blueinheaven said:

@darklight4 said:

I was watching a documentary that mentioned that the human eye can only see up to a certain resolution, dunno what the limit is. So eventually resolution upgrades will stop as there will be no point.

No, we will eventually get graphics that are BETTER than real life. You will stop playing your videogame then go outside into the real world and say OMG these graphics suck!

I'll probably be dead by then, I just hope hell has good internet :)

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@Bigboi500 said:

pshh, 8k is for peasants. Gimme 64k or go home.

Nintendo 64K confirmed

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#34 ProtossX
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@mjorh: bro nobody can afford a 4k tv

have u seen the prices on 4k tv

imagine a 60 inch 1080p tv vs 60 inch 4k resolution TV

imagine the price diff one is gonna be like 600 dollars the other is gonna be like 4k dollars see 4 u pay 1 dollar per pixel

its fucking outageous no NOBODY wants to spend that money on a tv

4k is done its basically crap an done

have u tried watching movies/porn/tv with 4k resoultion the faces are way too realistic and i just get sick its too much for me handle my eyes can really only taking 1080p barely that any higher res my eyes just dunno what to do its too good lookin it messes up my experience

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@darklight4 said:

@blueinheaven said:

@darklight4 said:

I was watching a documentary that mentioned that the human eye can only see up to a certain resolution, dunno what the limit is. So eventually resolution upgrades will stop as there will be no point.

No, we will eventually get graphics that are BETTER than real life. You will stop playing your videogame then go outside into the real world and say OMG these graphics suck!

I'll probably be dead by then, I just hope hell has good internet :)

Hell will just tap into someone else's already paid for wireless internet. I might have to do a bit of work to land a slot there. Purgatory blows by all accounts...

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wouldn't 8K be diminishing returns

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#37 mjorh
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@ProtossX said:

@mjorh: bro nobody can afford a 4k tv

have u seen the prices on 4k tv

imagine a 60 inch 1080p tv vs 60 inch 4k resolution TV

imagine the price diff one is gonna be like 600 dollars the other is gonna be like 4k dollars see 4 u pay 1 dollar per pixel

its fucking outageous no NOBODY wants to spend that money on a tv

4k is done its basically crap an done

have u tried watching movies/porn/tv with 4k resoultion the faces are way too realistic and i just get sick its too much for me handle my eyes can really only taking 1080p barely that any higher res my eyes just dunno what to do its too good lookin it messes up my experience

Yeah i know what you mean , hell it's just been a few years i've got this 1080p TV , dunno maybe in three years i'd go with 4K or sth ....my question was just outta curiosity ...

@blueinheaven said:

@darklight4 said:

I was watching a documentary that mentioned that the human eye can only see up to a certain resolution, dunno what the limit is. So eventually resolution upgrades will stop as there will be no point.

No, we will eventually get graphics that are BETTER than real life. You will stop playing your videogame then go outside into the real world and say OMG these graphics suck!

THAT moment :D

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You got about a good decade before anyone thinks about 8K gaming let alone for video viewing purposes. We don't even have cable channels transmitting in 4K yet. So yeah no.

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#39  Edited By thereal25
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@mjorh said:

with a GTX TITAN X you can play a game like battlefield 4 at minimum 30 fps on a 4k monitor , so when will we can play a game like witcher 3 on 8k monitor at 30 fps .... in a year , next two years , three years ?

Ha! But would the human eye even notice the difference between 4k and 8?

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It is sooner than most people think. 8k will be pushed by the arrival of 8k consumer level video gear. 4k cameras have been around for years and are in a growing market--to the point where people are buying cameras specifically for video production.

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@thereal25 said:

@mjorh said:

with a GTX TITAN X you can play a game like battlefield 4 at minimum 30 fps on a 4k monitor , so when will we can play a game like witcher 3 on 8k monitor at 30 fps .... in a year , next two years , three years ?

Ha! But would the human eye even notice the difference between 4k and 8?

Yeah ..why not?

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#42  Edited By flashn00b
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Probably never. We're already struggling to get everything to look good on 1080p resolutions.

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@mjorh said:

@thereal25 said:

@mjorh said:

with a GTX TITAN X you can play a game like battlefield 4 at minimum 30 fps on a 4k monitor , so when will we can play a game like witcher 3 on 8k monitor at 30 fps .... in a year , next two years , three years ?

Ha! But would the human eye even notice the difference between 4k and 8?

Yeah ..why not?

Like I said diminishing.

On a real 4K TV in order to see difference you would have to sit pretty damn close to the TV. I can only imagine 8K you'd have to be even closer and no one is going to put a couch 2 feet in front of a > 50 inch TV. 4K and 8K is only good for PC gamers.

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#44 thereal25
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For a 24 inch computer monitor, I imagine the difference between 1080p and 4k would be minimal.

And you really don't want a much bigger monitor than that for pc gaming.

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Not an SW topic

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what an amazingly dumb thread. this has to be one of the absolute worst ways to spend gpu power.

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8k won't be possible for at least 20 years. and even when it is, pc gamers will opt to focus their gpu on other priorities like effects.

by that time though, pc gamers will either use 50 inch wall monitors for maximum immersion of they'll find a way to make living room pc's.

consoles will probably be dead by that time.

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8k is for peasants. 64k is where its at.