how come no one talks on psn, everyone does on xbl

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#52 TheShensolidus
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I don't understand why people would decide to attack me for the comment I made - you understand that i've personally seen the metrics on online VOIP usage in games on the 360? That they were in steady decline since the advent of parties? I'm not even the 1st one to bring this up - there are tons of journalists who have pointed out this very fact.

Parties are amazing - lets you communicate with your actual friends & colleagues, weeds out the would be nonsense that you normally tend to hear in MP gaming sessions. On PS4, things are bit trickier because the system treats a VOIP group as its own party, but I can have multiple parties going at once.

So in a game like Ghosts, I can have my own personal party chat, be a part of a another group of player's party, or I can be in the "party" chat of the lobby/session i'm currently playing in. Switching between any of these parties is easy, just go to the Party menu and switch you're audio to w/e group you want. However, the downside is that you can only have one active parties' audio going at once. It's the same system present on the 360, minus being a party of multiple parties at once.

However, TC, if you're judging the amount of anonymous VOIP usage by Killzone Shadowfall, don't; it doesn't support non-party VOIP in a game. IMO, terrible oversight for a game that has revolving gamemodes mid match and multiple classes. And, like I said in my original post, this is all subjective - i'm sure there are a ton of players who see all kinds of VOIP scenarios in the games they play online, regardless of platform.

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#53 XboxDone74
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talking to strangers is pretty creepy. usually lonely people do this. and kids. both in abundance on Live.

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#54 brut_fruit
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because its not filled with manchilds like lemmings

kicking and screaming evertime they get bodied

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#55 edidili
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Because they're not used to it. Headsets are a new thing for them.

I hate MP games where barely anyone talks. I might as well play with bots, what's the freaking difference. I have another problem on PC. People talk, in russian.

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#56 GTSaiyanjin2
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@theshensolidus said:

I don't understand why people would decide to attack me for the comment I made - you understand that i've personally seen the metrics on online VOIP usage in games on the 360? That they were in steady decline since the advent of parties? I'm not even the 1st one to bring this up - there are tons of journalists who have pointed out this very fact.

Parties are amazing - lets you communicate with your actual friends & colleagues, weeds out the would be nonsense that you normally tend to hear in MP gaming sessions. On PS4, things are bit trickier because the system treats a VOIP group as its own party, but I can have multiple parties going at once.

So in a game like Ghosts, I can have my own personal party chat, be a part of a another group of player's party, or I can be in the "party" chat of the lobby/session i'm currently playing in. Switching between any of these parties is easy, just go to the Party menu and switch you're audio to w/e group you want. However, the downside is that you can only have one active parties' audio going at once. It's the same system present on the 360, minus being a party of multiple parties at once.

However, TC, if you're judging the amount of anonymous VOIP usage by Killzone Shadowfall, don't; it doesn't support non-party VOIP in a game. IMO, terrible oversight for a game that has revolving gamemodes mid match and multiple classes. And, like I said in my original post, this is all subjective - i'm sure there are a ton of players who see all kinds of VOIP scenarios in the games they play online, regardless of platform.

This is true especially on XBL, the PS3 didnt have a party system. So I'm not sure if people still talk on that. But I remember playing MW2, and I could hear plenty of people talking. Same goes for the 360, in Games like rainbow six,Halo,COD. But now a days its a ghost town. On the PC side of things I've never heard anyone talk, unless I joined their team speak channel, and plenty of people do talk in those.

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#57 gMcR
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I think it's great. Saves me the trouble of muting everyone.

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#58 Renegade311
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@super600 said:

@renegade311 said:

@mems_1224 said:

@theshensolidus said:

People talk on XBL? As far as I can tell, party chat has pretty much shredded online communication between anonymous players. Not being able to communicate with the overall players in a game will tend to do that.

Been playing on PS4, and i've heard way more chatter than I did on PS3. It's all subjective I guess, but w/e.

People talk all the time when I play. Sounds like you're full of shit

He is full of shit, Shensolidus is a closet cow.

A developer is a closest cow. If you are going ot say something like that post proof.

This developer who was riding Famousmortimers cock, has had nothing but negative things to say about the Xbox One including spreading false BS about the OS running like sh*t, and Riding Sony's junk like there's no tomorrow. Being a developer doesn't make him any less of a cow, that is if he is a developer.

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@theshensolidus said:

I don't understand why people would decide to attack me for the comment I made - you understand that i've personally seen the metrics on online VOIP usage in games on the 360? That they were in steady decline since the advent of parties? I'm not even the 1st one to bring this up - there are tons of journalists who have pointed out this very fact.

Parties are amazing - lets you communicate with your actual friends & colleagues, weeds out the would be nonsense that you normally tend to hear in MP gaming sessions. On PS4, things are bit trickier because the system treats a VOIP group as its own party, but I can have multiple parties going at once.

So in a game like Ghosts, I can have my own personal party chat, be a part of a another group of player's party, or I can be in the "party" chat of the lobby/session i'm currently playing in. Switching between any of these parties is easy, just go to the Party menu and switch you're audio to w/e group you want. However, the downside is that you can only have one active parties' audio going at once. It's the same system present on the 360, minus being a party of multiple parties at once.

However, TC, if you're judging the amount of anonymous VOIP usage by Killzone Shadowfall, don't; it doesn't support non-party VOIP in a game. IMO, terrible oversight for a game that has revolving gamemodes mid match and multiple classes. And, like I said in my original post, this is all subjective - i'm sure there are a ton of players who see all kinds of VOIP scenarios in the games they play online, regardless of platform.

shen you told me I was being paid for by Microsoft, I cant take you seriously after that, you will get bashed everytime I think of you. lol

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#60 Murderstyle75
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@XBOunity:

The sad thing is you aren't being paid by Microsoft. If you were being paid, at least you would have an excuse.

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#61 TREAL_Since
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This should be known by now. If people have the option to talk to their friends, they'll opt for that over strangers in a game session. Doesn't matter what platform you're on.

On PC, I chat with my friends on Vent. I party chat on PS4 while playing Shadowfall because the game doesn't support in game VOIP. I don't have XBL, but my bro is in a party chat with his friends 90% of the time.

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#62 bezza2011
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No its because the headsets I mean earphones they have given out are absolutely useless they dont go in mu ears properly and feel horrid so I choose not to wear them, im waiting on my proper ones which are being released later this month.

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#63 TheShensolidus
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@XBOunity: Actually, you were banned from NeoGAF for being a shill, which the mods I know on there who have your information you used for your account stand by. But that was awhile ago.

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#64  Edited By XBOunity
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@theshensolidus: lol yeah and? you said I was being paid as an astroturfer, that just goes to show you that you guys are biased, you and bish are shills yourself, oh but xbox UI isn't going to work as its supposed to right? you are exposed, and I called you out on it at the time.

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#65 TheShensolidus
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@XBOunity: I know neither who you are or who you work for, so i'd never know conclusively whether you are or aren't, nor do I care really.

As for the OS, i'm glad it's mostly working in-time for launch, although the thing I was mentioning (party chat) is still sub-optimal, and is implemented exactly as I described, but who cares about that.

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#66 XBOunity
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@theshensolidus: well I wish you had the foresight to know that Microsoft wouldn't release a broken product. I called you out at the time for it, and I have faith in Microsoft. They were put under a lot of fire from people like yourself about yields, about broken ui's, snap crashing games, and nobody cared to asked about ps4. It seems that ps4 is the one with all the problems ironically, the wobble, the RLOD, WLOD, all kinds of troubleshooting bricked consoles, bf 4 running like shit and communities much bigger on xbo on the same game. psn/up down up down when load hits and now you are paying for it. Fact is that you are proven to biased, as is cboat, as it famous, and even my friend thuway, all hate Microsoft. You guys wanted them to fail a little too hard, now you pay.

also you did call me an astroturfer, and that was suggested to you by a mod, I laughed that off, just think it adds more to the evidence that neogaf and mods have a slant against Microsoft.

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#67 Mr-Kutaragi
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@BluRayHiDef said:

@seanmcloughlin said:

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Because sony fanboys are antisocial. Thats why they're Sony fanboys. Playstations have always been for playing alone. Nintendo and MS systems have always been for people with friends

I wanted to mentioned this also. Someone said playstation players are loners/ Anti social. I know me and the other 2 ppl i know that has playstation/ playstation fans are. but im not sure

wouldn't be surprised

so because 3 people are like that it means the Sony fanbase is? This is just a dumb train of thought

I've got a PS4 and am extremely antisocial. Having said that, I do prefer to use my mic during multiplayer, but I don't ever hear anyone. I'm not sure if it's because no one's talking or because I have to do something to turn it on. I have KZ:SF and BF4.

KZ is having game chat patch. I guess they thought for launch that party chat was sufficient but dumb move to me. BF4 is only squad chat unless you are leader then you chat to other leader I think.

Also playstation gamer have life and family and not always use chat beause is seeing as "nerdy". Xbox gamer are lonely and stuck in basement so they think XBL friend are real friend and party chat all the time with 10 hour game session daily.

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#68 Bazooka_4ME
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I thought it was considered antisocial when people curse at each other rather than bbeing silent. Just look at the "social" conversation at COD games lol....

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@Mr-Kutaragi said:

@BluRayHiDef said:

@seanmcloughlin said:

@gta50419 said:
@mems_1224 said:

Because sony fanboys are antisocial. Thats why they're Sony fanboys. Playstations have always been for playing alone. Nintendo and MS systems have always been for people with friends

I wanted to mentioned this also. Someone said playstation players are loners/ Anti social. I know me and the other 2 ppl i know that has playstation/ playstation fans are. but im not sure

wouldn't be surprised

so because 3 people are like that it means the Sony fanbase is? This is just a dumb train of thought

I've got a PS4 and am extremely antisocial. Having said that, I do prefer to use my mic during multiplayer, but I don't ever hear anyone. I'm not sure if it's because no one's talking or because I have to do something to turn it on. I have KZ:SF and BF4.

KZ is having game chat patch.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

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#70 Gargus
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From my experience XBL users are more obnoxious and just ramble on to anyone listening, so it isn't really talking as much as a bunch of people talking at eachother and not to eachother. I also tend to find a lot more obnoxious kids that think everyone wants to hear what they have to say, a lot of black guys who like to talk shit while playing, and a lot of guys that think they need to have a comment on everything that everyone says. Yes XBL has a lot more people who talk on there, but do they ever actually have anything to say? No not really. Its all just annoying buzzing in the background and its all forgotten in 10 minutes.

From my experience with PSN most users only chat when they need to. Or like on the PS4 they only talk to people they actually know and are friends with, they don't feel the need to just talk to anyone and everyone. They also tend to play the games more, they don't sit idle very much and they tend to be a lot more fun to play with or against.

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#71  Edited By ShoTTyMcNaDeS
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I play CoD Ghosts online all the time and there are tons of mics on PSN. As of now, I believe the only way to have chat in KZSF is to create or join a party. As far as BF4 goes, Id say the issue there is that game is horrible and nobody is playing!!

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#72 cain006
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@k2theswiss said:

THATS WHY

Good god why even give people such shitty headsets? That's horrible.

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@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@picklesurprise said:

bunch of introverted betas on playstation too scared to talk

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i will be masturbating to the thought of you until you arrive.

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#74 Infinite_Access
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If people are talking they are mostly in party chats.. anyone who says otherwise if full of shit. This going for both XBL and PSN. Party chat ruined teaming up with randoms. I miss the halo 2 days..