Horizon: Zero Dawn Will Be A 10/10 Game of the Year

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Yeah it is important to be appreciative of the hard work that goes into making video games. Personally while I see that it is important to be appreciative of a quality cinematic, this doesn't mean that one has to like them or even withhold criticism even if they are better executed than other games.

It's important to be honest with oneself when expressing your opinion but also empathetic of others opinions and of the hard work that went into producing the game.

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#102 SecretPolice  Online
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Lets see...

Not on X1... check

Not on PC... check

Only on Two Phony systems , Bore & Poo multiplat... check

All checks out.... GS 10/10 it is. :P

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10/10 here!

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Wow this was bad, but funny at the same time. Reminded me of The Room

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Now maybe some people understand how difficult is to do what Naughty dog does for a decade now.

Voice acting on this video was terrible but what was even worse was the characters facial expressions and the overall direction. Emotionless to death let alone out of place.

What? Making shitty non-games?

Naughty Duds just made a single title with realtime cutscenes. All the did before was pre-rendered cutscenes and Blizzard clowns Naughty Duds or any dev in the games industry in the cutscenes department.

Take your head out of Naughty Duds' a$$.

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#107  Edited By AzatiS
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@jumpaction said:

@AzatiS:

Yeah it is important to be appreciative of the hard work that goes into making video games. Personally while I see that it is important to be appreciative of a quality cinematic, this doesn't mean that one has to like them or even withhold criticism even if they are better executed than other games.

It's important to be honest with oneself when expressing your opinion but also empathetic of others opinions and of the hard work that went into producing the game.

I agree though when i see the same people that crying out loud about extraordinary cinematics/cutscenes of being nothing special and this and that then they bashing bad ones like its disaster for them .. ehmmm ! :)

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#108  Edited By AzatiS
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@zeeshanhaider said:
@AzatiS said:

Now maybe some people understand how difficult is to do what Naughty dog does for a decade now.

Voice acting on this video was terrible but what was even worse was the characters facial expressions and the overall direction. Emotionless to death let alone out of place.

What? Making shitty non-games?

Naughty Duds just made a single title with realtime cutscenes. All the did before was pre-rendered cutscenes and Blizzard clowns Naughty Duds or any dev in the games industry in the cutscenes department.

Take your head out of Naughty Duds' a$$.

Thats your opinion.

For me , the guy that really like cinematic games , epic cutscenes and great voice acting while im into stories big time while playing a great/good game , ND are gods and i cant wait for Last of Us 2.

For you , the typical hypocrites that you judging ND games over and over when at the same time you calling games like Resident Evil 4 masterpiece ... dont play ND games all i care.

I like all kind of games , story driven , cinematic driven , indies , everything .. Im lucky i guess vs you. Oh well , i can have fun all around from all kind of experiences ! Jealous ?

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#109  Edited By deactivated-5c1d0901c2aec
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@AzatiS:

It's important to appreciate the amount of work that goes into these games on a technical level but it's also important to be critical. For example, some of the cut-scenes in Uncharted are very impressive technically but may not hold up to other mediums in terms of directing, camera work and scene setting or dialogue. If the medium is to grow, we need to acknowledge both the successes and the drawbacks.

I can only go by Uncharted 2 but the facial animations and voice acting are great. It has excellent technology but the screenwriting and script hold the cuts-scenes back.

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#110  Edited By AzatiS
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@jumpaction said:

@AzatiS:

It's important to appreciate the amount of work that goes into these games on a technical level but it's also important to be critical. For example, some of the cut-scenes in Uncharted are very impressive technically but may not hold up to other mediums in terms of directing, camera work and scene setting or dialogue. If the medium is to grow, we need to acknowledge both the successes and the drawbacks.

Still though not many games can even think to do the same . Uncharted 4s cutscenes at their worse can beat 99% of every other cinematic game out there under same genre.

So we talking about personal preference or small technical details etc here . When for Horizons cutscene they posted here we can say from the start ... Its crap. End of story. Noone can argue . When it comes to UC4 for example .. its all about opinions and personal taste.

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#111  Edited By deactivated-5c1d0901c2aec
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@AzatiS:

Yes, in terms of technical fidelity but saying the cut-scenes are amazing without addressing the screenwriting and dialogue will hinder the medium from progressing. At least, this is what I think. If advancements in story telling is to be made in this medium, it has to come from somewhere other than technology and graphical fidelity.

A cut-scene still needs to do more than look beautiful. Uncharted games deserve the credit for having excellent graphics in their cut-scenes but are perhaps not as successful in the story-telling department.

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#112  Edited By musalala
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This game looks like a glorified Far cry game...Im still on the fence considering Guerrilla games are only good at visuals and very mediocre at everything else.

edit, those facial animations are wierd

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#113 AzatiS
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@jumpaction said:

@AzatiS:

Yes, in terms of technical fidelity but saying the cut-scenes are amazing without addressing the screenwriting and dialogue will hinder the medium from progressing. At least, this is what I think. If advancements in story telling is to be made in this medium, it has to come from somewhere other than technology and graphical fidelity.

A cut-scene still needs to do more than look beautiful. Uncharted games deserve the credit for having excellent graphics in their cut-scenes but are perhaps not as successful in the story-telling department.

I agree

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@musalala said:

This game looks like a glorified Far cry game...Im still on the fence considering Guerrilla games are only good at visuals and very mediocre at everything else.

edit, those facial animations are wierd

Yeah, a glorified Far Cry game without the interesting antagonist set in the world of Enslaved. How anyone can hype a game like that is beyond me

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#115 DaVillain  Moderator
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But yeah, I'm hype for Horizon and i already pre-order it but it never came to my mind it's a Zelda killer lol.

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That girl in the video seems like she could kill Zelda pretty easily.

TSHBO.

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#117 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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Man look at all those hype bridges getting burned!

7/10 or 8/10? I have must have been reading comments about a different game for the past year ....

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@charizard1605: Video confirmed my 10/10 prediction.

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@dakur said:

That girl in the video seems like she could kill Zelda pretty easily.

TSHBO.

This made me chuckle

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@ArchoNils2 said:
@musalala said:

This game looks like a glorified Far cry game...Im still on the fence considering Guerrilla games are only good at visuals and very mediocre at everything else.

edit, those facial animations are wierd

Yeah, a glorified Far Cry game without the interesting antagonist set in the world of Enslaved. How anyone can hype a game like that is beyond me

Well I suppose if you're going to be reductive it's hard to get hyped for any game.

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@dakur:

Not Ocarina of Time Zelda/Sheik. :P That girl can teleport.

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Charizard goes rampant once again and bashing SONY and its games yet again , like he did when Wii U first released few years back or/and when AAA great Nintendo titles are around the corner. Oh those memories !

Should i say care what you saying like i said personally to you long time ago ? Or youll laugh about it like you did then and keep trolling/bashing ? You know the drift man , you know the drift.

How is possible to bash/gently bash SONY over and over then when things getting FUP for Nintendo you taking SONYs side but not sincerely/all the way , then a new console or a new nitendo game coming and then you start all over like SONY sucks and X game is crap or PS4 has no games ( oops sorry that was long time ago ) etc etc.

Thats why i love SW !

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@jumpaction said:

@dakur:

Not Ocarina of Time Zelda/Sheik. :P That girl can teleport.

And the Horizon girl can keep a straight face in front of pretty cringe-worthy acting. Who's more powerful now?

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@dakur:

Touche. That's quite an incredible power. :O

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The only 10/10 future games based on quality and not hype are on my sig. and no game from future will be better than both.

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#126  Edited By cainetao11
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@charizard1605: He does, but that doesn't explain the terrible voice acting for the other two...

Dude, there's no excuse for any of the three. Having mental problems doesn't mean he has to sound like a wooden actor. Ed Wood wrote better dialogue. That was awful. But, I still have high hopes for Horizon. I put that on the back burner for Nioh, but after that and Halo Wars 2, Mass Effect, I want to buy Horizon.

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Amazing. Not awkward at all. GOTY. All the awards.

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@AzatiS said:

Charizard goes rampant once again and bashing SONY and its games yet again , like he did when Wii U first released few years back or/and when AAA great Nintendo titles are around the corner. Oh those memories !

Should i say care what you saying like i said personally to you long time ago ? Or youll laugh about it like you did then and keep trolling/bashing ? You know the drift man , you know the drift.

How is possible to bash/gently bash SONY over and over then when things getting FUP for Nintendo you taking SONYs side but not sincerely/all the way , then a new console or a new nitendo game coming and then you start all over like SONY sucks and X game is crap or PS4 has no games ( oops sorry that was long time ago ) etc etc.

Thats why i love SW !

Are you incapable of understanding humor?

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@jumpaction said:

@AzatiS:

Yes, in terms of technical fidelity but saying the cut-scenes are amazing without addressing the screenwriting and dialogue will hinder the medium from progressing. At least, this is what I think. If advancements in story telling is to be made in this medium, it has to come from somewhere other than technology and graphical fidelity.

A cut-scene still needs to do more than look beautiful. Uncharted games deserve the credit for having excellent graphics in their cut-scenes but are perhaps not as successful in the story-telling department.

Uncharted's writing would be ripped a new one in a better story telling medium, and that's some so called "gold standard" to these sewer water drinking clowns. Contrary to what they say, they aren't interested in progressing the medium. They want something shiny and the glad handing corporate cheerleaders ahem, game "critics" to tell them the sewer water is actually wine.

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#130  Edited By lamprey263
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funny thing is that despite the sarcasm of the OP, it'll probably be a 10/10 anyways once the Sony exclusive score handicap is applied, I mean look how laughably bad this other 10/10 is...

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I mean, yeah. I wouldn't put it that way but it definitely isn't up to scratch with other story-telling mediums in my opinion too. Nathan Drake isn't the most defined character compared to similar action heroes.

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@charizard1605: I see what you did thar! LOL! Yeah that was really bad, as well as the animation. For a game that looks pretty, you'd think they would fix the character animation.

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I'll get it day one, but not even close, TC lol

The game does look fun for a while and it's visually fantastic, but after watching many vids i'm affraid it's not much more than na Ubisoft game in a diferente setting: towers to unlock areas, invisible walls everywhere (you can only climb to places where you see na yellow rope in the Wall), hud elements everywhere, highlighted items (killing sense of exploration), schemactic activities (collect 50 items to clean the map), etc...

Like i said it looks fantastic, robot design and animations are incredible, but this game will need RPG mechanics and interesting lore/story to not be just another average open world game.

I'm expecting a good 7/10, 8/10 at best, here.

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Another rich engaging story to add to avalanche of world class gaming experiences available on PS4.

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@lamprey263 said:

funny thing is that despite the sarcasm of the OP, it'll probably be a 10/10 anyways once the Sony exclusive score handicap is applied, I mean look how laughably bad this other 10/10 is...

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Played MGS4 as well, it was definitely NOT a 10/10! That game was a 7/10 and a poorly executed ending to Solid Snake's adventure.

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Lol, that was horrible. How can you compare that crap to something like Witcher 3?!?! Wow.

I'll say it again, I don't get the massive hype for this game. It looks cool, but the gameplay seem generic from what I've seen and it looks like the voice acting and writing aren't going to be anything to write home about. Anyway, it'll still probably get 10/10 from most sites because it's PS.

While i haven't yet played Witcher 3 (only Witcher 1 and 2 on PC), I bet it also has a few bad scenes or badly voiced NPC's. It's basically an inevitability in gaming.

That being said, that scene/quest was particularly laughable. But if it's just a NPC that happens and is no big deal. My hype for this game has always been 8/10, because I'm sure they will fall into typical video game and WRPG tropes. The best hope with this game is that it's basically "Skyrim with dinosaur robots". Expect lots of fetch quests and repetition like most WRPG.

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I knew what the video linked was gonna be before I even clicked on the topic.

But yeah, the real gems on the PS4 this year will probably be Nioh and Nier 2.

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@2Chalupas said:
@hrt_rulz01 said:

Lol, that was horrible. How can you compare that crap to something like Witcher 3?!?! Wow.

I'll say it again, I don't get the massive hype for this game. It looks cool, but the gameplay seem generic from what I've seen and it looks like the voice acting and writing aren't going to be anything to write home about. Anyway, it'll still probably get 10/10 from most sites because it's PS.

While i haven't yet played Witcher 3 (only Witcher 1 and 2 on PC), I bet it also has a few bad scenes or badly voiced NPC's. It's basically an inevitability in gaming.

That being said, that scene/quest was particularly laughable. But if it's just a NPC that happens and is no big deal. My hype for this game has always been 8/10, because I'm sure they will fall into typical video game and WRPG tropes. The best hope with this game is that it's basically "Skyrim with dinosaur robots". Expect lots of fetch quests and repetition like most WRPG.

Witcher 3, surprisingly enough, didn't have any poor voice acting or scenes that stick out like this. Then again, that game is massive- entirely possible that some scenes like that do exist, and I just never triggered them through my playthrough.

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#139  Edited By uninspiredcup
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@FireEmblem_Man said:
@lamprey263 said:

funny thing is that despite the sarcasm of the OP, it'll probably be a 10/10 anyways once the Sony exclusive score handicap is applied, I mean look how laughably bad this other 10/10 is...

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Played MGS4 as well, it was definitely NOT a 10/10! That game was a 7/10 and a poorly executed ending to Solid Snake's adventure.

Critics went on expectation rather than reality. Retrospect has beaten this game to a pulp.

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@AzatiS said:
@zeeshanhaider said:
@AzatiS said:

Now maybe some people understand how difficult is to do what Naughty dog does for a decade now.

Voice acting on this video was terrible but what was even worse was the characters facial expressions and the overall direction. Emotionless to death let alone out of place.

What? Making shitty non-games?

Naughty Duds just made a single title with realtime cutscenes. All the did before was pre-rendered cutscenes and Blizzard clowns Naughty Duds or any dev in the games industry in the cutscenes department.

Take your head out of Naughty Duds' a$$.

Thats your opinion.

For me , the guy that really like cinematic games , epic cutscenes and great voice acting while im into stories big time while playing a great/good game , ND are gods and i cant wait for Last of Us 2.

For you , the typical hypocrites that you judging ND games over and over when at the same time you calling games like Resident Evil 4 masterpiece ... dont play ND games all i care.

I like all kind of games , story driven , cinematic driven , indies , everything .. Im lucky i guess vs you. Oh well , i can have fun all around from all kind of experiences ! Jealous ?

First I never called RE4 a masterpiece, never. I wasn't even a fan of the series to begin with but the point is Naughty Duds sucks in everything they do and there's not even a single field that they excel at, not even the cutscenes. Blizzard shits all over them.

And as far as gameplay is concerened Naughty Duds don't even make games, and when they did, they made mediocre shitty games. This studio is copying others works and failing at the same time for well over 30+ years. So, not jealous just laughing at idiots like you who before UC2 didn't even know who Naughty Duds were.

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@jg4xchamp:

I mean, yeah. I wouldn't put it that way but it definitely isn't up to scratch with other story-telling mediums in my opinion too. Nathan Drake isn't the most defined character compared to similar action heroes.

He's not even that good of a character by this medium's standards. Even for a tps. Remedy's version of Max Payne and Naughty Dog's own Joel are significantly more compelling characters. He's fun n charming, but in a poverty Malcolm Reynolds sort of way. None of which excuses that outside the shooting in UC4, the rest of the gameplay is pretty mediocre in this series, you know the interactive bits, in a fucking interactive medium. But goty all years? fucking christ.

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#142 kvally
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Lets see...

Not on X1... check

Not on PC... check

Only on Two Phony systems , Bore & Poo multiplat... check

All checks out.... GS 10/10 it is. :P

Anything less than a 10 and it's a fffflo....

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#143  Edited By deactivated-5c1d0901c2aec
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@jg4xchamp:

My problem is that they keep insisting upon retiring Nathan from treasure hunting... yet one of the only defining traits of his character is treasure hunting.

In the opening of Uncharted 2, he insists that he has retired from treasure hunting while he sits by himself in a beach-side bar drinking. Outside of hunting for treasure, Nate does very little. He has no life outside of the gameplay. Some of the clips I've seen of U4 show Nathan playing a PS1 which assumes he is an old-school gamer. More of that might give him some life. He's otherwise one dimensional. :(

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#144 R10nu
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#145 LustForSoul
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It's an open world game, they always lack in something. In this case writing and facial animations. Guerrilla Games still going strong in the graphics department though.

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#146 soulitane
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@jumpaction said:

Some of the clips I've seen of U4 show Nathan playing a PS1 which assumes he is an old-school gamer. More of that might give him some life. He's otherwise one dimensional. :(

He's not, it's his wife's playstation and Drake doesn't even know how to play it.

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#147 Zero_epyon
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That was hard to watch. Hopefully this scene is unique.

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#148 deactivated-5c1d0901c2aec
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@soulitane:

Oh my mistake! I haven't played the and I must have remembered the clip wrong.

They could have doneore to gI've Nathan a life outside of treasier hunting even in reference.

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#149 Cloud_imperium
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I hope so. The game looks really cool. And it's bold move to not include tutorials in the game. It's been awhile since we had this design choice in AAA game.

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#150 LordQuorthon
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What's really interesting is that the whole scene would have actually been OK with 16 bit sprites and just text.