Horizon's incoming downgrade confirmed.

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#1 Gue1
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"IN-ENGINE"

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#2  Edited By lglz1337
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like i said in the other thread this is all real ladies.

don't panic no downgrades only upgrades!

who wants to do a account bet ?

in-engine on ps4 is something different then in-engine using pc with ps4 specs!

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#3 DEadliNE-Zero0
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"in-engine" is the new cg.

Still, Clownzone looks pretty good, so i'm sure Horizon will look great aswell. But it is an open world game, so limitations sink in anyway.

I don't expect a massive dg alla DS2, TW3, WD, UC4, etc

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#4 freedomfreak  Online
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Can't be bothered. It all looked intriguing as hell.

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#5 inggrish
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Reveals always look prettier than the actual game, this is especially true recently.

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#6  Edited By uninspiredcup
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My gods.

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#7 gpuking
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Er, the dude was playing the game on stage on a PS4. It would only get better coz right now it's pre alpha. Fail thread.

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#8 lglz1337
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@gpuking: true story

people didn't even noticed the transistion from real-time cutscene running on ps4 to gameplay!

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@lglz1337 said:

@gpuking: true story

people didn't even noticed the transistion from real-time cutscene running on ps4 to gameplay!

Yeah I know, that's how insane the visuals look. GG's games tend to do this to people tho.

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#10  Edited By waahahah
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@gpuking said:

Er, the dude was playing the game on stage on a PS4. It would only get better coz right now it's pre alpha. Fail thread.

Its really not fail, we've scene more pre alpha footage that looks better than release. More often than not These things need to get optimized out to make it perform well in hectic situations.

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#11 Salt_The_Fries
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@freedomfreak: Same. However those people raising those concerns may have a point.

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#13 Cloud_imperium
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@deadline-zero0 said:

"in-engine" is the new cg.

I don't expect a massive dg alla DS2, TW3, WD, UC4, etc

Preach.

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#14 chikenfriedrice
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Game wasn't a real looker anyway, looks very fun though

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#15  Edited By LegatoSkyheart
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Just cause it was "In Engine" doesn't mean it was "Gameplay"

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#16 repetitious
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How many times are we gonna see downgrades since the reveal of a game before ppl stop falling for it?

"Oh this is different tho"

"oh well he was playing the game right there" yes cause we saw where that controller connected to..... I can stand away from everything an twiddle my thumbs to a gameplay video too...its like air guitar but with games.

What do you forum ppl call them?...cows is it?

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#18 gpuking
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This is not ubi or CDPR, it's GG guys. They only improve.

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#19 repetitious
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@gpuking: KZ never improved.

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#20  Edited By drinkerofjuice
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So are we now going to start suspecting every technically impressive game being subjected to a downgrade? So cynical.

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@getyeryayasout: Dutch people speaking English. Always funny. Mathijs, especially. Wonder if they're gonna use Dutch words in their game to describe weapons or enemies. They did it for Shadowfall.

Yeah, game looks cool.

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#22 Cloud_imperium
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@repetitious said:

How many times are we gonna see downgrades since the reveal of a game before ppl stop falling for it?

"Oh this is different tho"

"oh well he was playing the game right there" yes cause we saw where that controller connected to..... I can stand away from everything an twiddle my thumbs to a gameplay video too...its like air guitar but with games.

What do you forum ppl call them?...cows is it?

Even if it was being played on actual Console, it doesn't mean much. I'm not saying that the game will definitely be downgraded but demos shown on stage are vertical slices,,, scripted events in limited area to show best parts of the game in short time. When it comes to running actual game inside much bigger environments then the story is different.

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#23 granddogg
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When the game comes out in a year or 2 it most likey will be downgraded alittle....but i cant wait it looked good and fun

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#24 repetitious
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@Cloud_imperium: very true, w3 done that. It was in an area that was finished and polished, everything outside that area wasn't. More they polished the whole picture, the lesser that demo area becomes.

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#25  Edited By lglz1337
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the disappoint for the non-believers will be epic

i should start a list

who wants to be in ?

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#26 speedfog
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Typical marketing word these days "in-engine".

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#27 finalstar2007
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So from that tweet you assumed that the game will be downgraded? wow so smart TC! plz tell us more

This is the studio that made killzone and shadow fall was beyond good looking, simply cannot wait this is by far the best new IP announced at E3!

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#28  Edited By Cloud_imperium
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@repetitious said:

@Cloud_imperium: very true, w3 done that. It was in an area that was finished and polished, everything outside that area wasn't. More they polished the whole picture, the lesser that demo area becomes.

Especially when you target a platform that is not upgradable... So, you are forced to cut corners. Optimization is real but like everything else, it has its limitations too. Then after that you have to make hard choices to run the game on a closed platform.

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@lglz1337 said:

like i said in the other thread this is all real ladies.

don't panic no downgrades only upgrades!

who wants to do a account bet ?

in-engine on ps4 is something different then in-engine using pc with ps4 specs!

it won't be downgraded much, though (you'd imagine the uproar). still, it's the gameplay that's important, and i hope horizon fulfills that just like forza horizon 2.

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#30  Edited By deactivated-5f19d4c9d7318
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I said it in the Horizon thread that i thought it must be pre-rendered or something. I'm guessing we'll see the AA get reeled in a bit at least.

Edit: There's more tweets that make it sound like it's actual gameplay? See the replies.

FFS can't work out how to embed the tweets:

AdventShepard ‏@AdventShepard 42m42 minutes ago

@MvdLeeuwGG@Guerrilla so it wasnt in-game? cos there is difference between in-engine and in-game, right?

Michiel v.d. Leeuw ‏@MvdLeeuwGG 28m28 minutes ago

@AdventShepard@Guerrilla The intro and outro are cinematics rendered in the game engine. Middle part is in-game.

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#31 BobRossPerm
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Nah it will look like that. If you download the uncompressed Gamersyde vid, it clearly has tons of jaggies. In fact, about as much jaggies as Killzone Shadowfall if anyone remembers how jaggy that was. This indicates it could be running on PS4 with that same crappy AA and not downsampling. And it's simply not as detailed as Shadow Fall anyway it seems close up, that's because it's open world. But still, I expect it to be one of the best looking open world games at release.

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Butthurt begins

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#33 kuu2
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duh......the only people fooled by gg these days are sony fan.

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#34 deactivated-583e460ca986b
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Of course it won't look as good as the reveal trailer. It can't knowing what the PS4 has under the hood. It will be 30fps, have jaggies, blurry and popping textures etc. That doesn't change my opinion that Horizon was game of show. It looks fresh and fun and is a big win for Sony.

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#35 repetitious
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@Heil68: moooooooo

Moooooooooooooo

Moooooooo

That's all I hear from you betsy.

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#36 lglz1337
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@kuu2: and the people ignorant are the lems

this is all real son FACT!!

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#37 BobRossPerm
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@deadline-zero0 said:

"in-engine" is the new cg.

Still, Clownzone looks pretty good, so i'm sure Horizon will look great aswell. But it is an open world game, so limitations sink in anyway.

I don't expect a massive dg alla DS2, TW3, WD, UC4, etc

Was The Witcher 3 even confirmed to be downgraded? It looks pretty darn stunning as is. Downgraded compared to what? And Uncharted 4 was downgraded? It looked freaking insane on monday. The supposed character model downgrade seems to be debunked from that demo, as even Sully (an NPC in game) looks better than Drake did at E3 2014.

Also check out the Gamersyde video of horizon. It has the same AA as Shadow Fall on PS4. Jaggies everywhere.

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#38 DEadliNE-Zero0
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@bobrossperm: Downgarded from teh VGX 2013 trailer.

UC4 was definitelly downgraded and had it's frame cut in half

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#39 Heil68
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@repetitious said:

@Heil68: moooooooo

Moooooooooooooo

Moooooooo

That's all I hear from you betsy.

You didnt hear deluxe CE edition day fucking 1? awwww yeahhhhh!

???

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#40  Edited By Malta_1980
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Well I'm pretty sure the game will look great once released...

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#41  Edited By lglz1337
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@deadline-zero0: difference is GG played this game infront your lazy eyes!

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#42 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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How cynical. For a change, can't we all just enjoy the fact that we have a compelling new IP announced, instead of reducing it to lines and pixels on screen?

None of which is to say, we already have a Horizon thread.