Have Reviewers Sacked Ryse and the Fun in Gaming

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#1 Posted by slader236 (49 posts) -

I also frequent gaming forums like IGN, GameSpot and NeoGAF. Do you know that GameSpot has a subforum named System Wars? It's even the most frequented one there. One would think this has to be a very successful game, System Wars sounds very similar to Star Wars, so could be a space game. But when you enter that forum you notice very fast that other systems are at war there. There fight modern gaming crusaders under the banner of gaming systems. PlayStation is killing the Xbox, and Xbox is slaughtering the PC. Nintendo they don't even take seriously anymore.

IGN is not much different and NeoGAF is more the place of the backstabby passive-aggressive diplomat type that hopes to lure the enemy over to his side with a well informed opinion.

What are the weapons of these modern crusaders, the system warriors. Metascores, game previews and technical analysis a la Digital Foundry. And of course a lot of name calling, which former Microsoft man Adam Orth can say a word or two about. The words toxicity and troll are often associated with these system war arenas. The word fun is not often used there, could it be that you can't fight with something that you don't have?

Let me now come to the professional game reviewers, and I call most of them that way because they are paid for that. Do they turn which way the wind blows? Bam, I started with the hammer.

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Just so it happened that, regardless of bad Metascore, some Xbox One gamers picked up Ryse, and surprise surprise, it was fun. Mind you, many first simply didn't dare to write fun, but used adjectives like guilty pleasure and mindless fun to not get flamed. Some admitted completing the game multiple times in contrast to some games that got glowing reviews. On the higher difficulties the game also required strategy to survive. And surprise, the combat system was more realistic than other so called hack and slash games a la God of War, and even the Dark Souls combat looks somewhat crude in execution when you compare it.

Luckily many more gamers dared not to listen to reviews and discovered that Ryse is a lot of fun. Simply poking at the Amazon game reviews you see that people have a lot of fun with the game and the game is very popular among the gamers who bought it at the Xbox One digital store. Some gamers ask themselves what were the reviewers smoking when they played Ryse, or if they even played it at all.

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Should professional game critics ask themselves if they have fun gaming? Should you play video games because well it's a habit, who needs fun? Everyone has to answer these questions for himself. I know that if I want the mystery of new games to return I should stop looking for reviews, previews, yes even stop peeking at the final scores. And fun is not what I'll find in gaming forums, well sometimes it can be fun, but for the wrong reasons.

More at: www.onlivespot.com/2014/03/have-professional-reviewers.html

#2 Posted by GrenadeLauncher (3209 posts) -

Ryse is pedestrian shit though.

#3 Posted by Nengo_Flow (9287 posts) -

why are we still talking about a 4/10 game?

#4 Posted by j_assassin (878 posts) -

sure, if only I was rich and don't mind wasting money and buying every game that comes out then I wouldnt even bother checking out reviews to get a general idea of how the games plays

#5 Posted by casharmy (6819 posts) -

I agree, Knack was also a 10/10 GOAT. I am sure lemmings will agree.

#6 Posted by Krelian-co (10047 posts) -

Ryse was shit but hardcore lems are still in denial the biggest launch game was terrible.

#7 Posted by shawn30 (4295 posts) -

Ryse is a very good, underrated game. It flopped here and in most reviews, lol. But I really enjoyed it. And the multiplayer was very underrated as well. Reviews are like assholes, everybody got one. Just judge a game based on your opinion of it. Watch videos, read previews, maybe read a couple of reviews just to get a sense of if the game is broken technically or the controls suck, ect. But overall be your own judge. I would have missed out on a ton of games I truly enjoyed if all I went by were reviews on gaming websites.

#8 Posted by casharmy (6819 posts) -

@shawn30 said:

Ryse is a very good, underrated game. It flopped here and in most reviews, lol. But I really enjoyed it. And the multiplayer was very underrated as well. Reviews are like assholes, everybody got one. Just judge a game based on your opinion of it. Watch videos, read previews, maybe read a couple of reviews just to get a sense of if the game is broken technically or the controls suck, ect. But overall be your own judge. I would have missed out on a ton of games I truly enjoyed if all I went by were reviews on gaming websites.

As always, anyone can form a personal opinion of any a game after they have played it.

#9 Posted by GrenadeLauncher (3209 posts) -

why are we still talking about a 4/10 game?

Because they have nothing else in the foreseeable future and they need to cling to their GRAPHICS KING

#10 Posted by casharmy (6819 posts) -

@Nengo_Flow said:

why are we still talking about a 4/10 game?

Because they have nothing else in the foreseeable future and they need to cling to their GRAPHICS KING

Kinect Sports Rivals brah. BELIEVE!

#11 Edited by SecretPolice (21205 posts) -

Just ask SW Duper Cow Heil about the fun and just gotta keep playing addictiveness of Ryse, g'head, ask him and if being honest ( yeah right) he will tell you it's at least a 8.0 game. :o :P

#12 Edited by hoosier7 (3686 posts) -

The article makes sense and i do agree with the main point with some games but Ryse is an awful example. That game was plainly poor.

#13 Edited by locopatho (20042 posts) -

Ryse is a crappy QTE fest. If you don't play many games you could probably have fun with it, same way a generic 6/10 FPS could be good fun for someone who never played Halo, COD, Battlefield, Bioshock, etc.

#14 Edited by StormyJoe (4577 posts) -

@GrenadeLauncher said:

Ryse is pedestrian shit though.

And @locopatho, @Krelian-co Played it a lot?

I have. What parts/levels did you not like and why? Maybe we can play multiplayer sometime. What is your gamertag?

#15 Posted by sts106mat (18760 posts) -

Ryse is a great game in my opinion. you dont have to look far to find plenty of people enjoyed it too. some of the reviewers clearly just tried it on recruit and ran through it.

Played on legendary it is a good challenge which requires clever use of the reward system.

the characters, voice acting, story and sound etc are superb.

The multiplayer mode is a good co-op experience and reaching high combo's and maximizing reward takes patience and strategy aswell as timing.

haters can hate all they want.

#16 Posted by locopatho (20042 posts) -

@GrenadeLauncher said:

Ryse is pedestrian shit though.

And @locopatho, @Krelian-co Played it a lot?

I have. What parts/levels did you not like and why? Maybe we can play multiplayer sometime. What is your gamertag?

Played it at an MS event before the ONE launched. It was dreadful, nothing but endless "epic" slow motion and QTEs, and when there weren't QTEs there was just button bashing. Why would I own it?

#17 Posted by regnaston (189 posts) -

Ryse is fun..but I would not pay more than $30 for it (I got mine free)

#18 Posted by StormyJoe (4577 posts) -

@StormyJoe said:

@GrenadeLauncher said:

Ryse is pedestrian shit though.

And @locopatho, @Krelian-co Played it a lot?

I have. What parts/levels did you not like and why? Maybe we can play multiplayer sometime. What is your gamertag?

Played it at an MS event before the ONE launched. It was dreadful, nothing but endless "epic" slow motion and QTEs, and when there weren't QTEs there was just button bashing. Why would I own it?

Sure you did. (insert eye roll here) I am convinced that you played it for quite some time, because your depiction of game play is... completely wrong. Looks to me like you just read some negative reviews, and are basing your opinion off of that.

There are legitimate gripes for Ryse, just not the ones you mentioned. If you haven't played a game before, don't post crap like you have.

#19 Edited by StormyJoe (4577 posts) -

Ryse is a great game in my opinion. you dont have to look far to find plenty of people enjoyed it too. some of the reviewers clearly just tried it on recruit and ran through it.

Played on legendary it is a good challenge which requires clever use of the reward system.

the characters, voice acting, story and sound etc are superb.

The multiplayer mode is a good co-op experience and reaching high combo's and maximizing reward takes patience and strategy aswell as timing.

haters can hate all they want.

Agreed. I have gripes about it. For one, if you are going to have human looking enemies, they all shouldn't be clones of each other. And, the story was a little dumb.

But, I don't think it deserves a 4/10. I can think of a lot of games that scored higher than that and are far worse.

#20 Posted by locopatho (20042 posts) -

@locopatho said:

@StormyJoe said:

@GrenadeLauncher said:

Ryse is pedestrian shit though.

And @locopatho, @Krelian-co Played it a lot?

I have. What parts/levels did you not like and why? Maybe we can play multiplayer sometime. What is your gamertag?

Played it at an MS event before the ONE launched. It was dreadful, nothing but endless "epic" slow motion and QTEs, and when there weren't QTEs there was just button bashing. Why would I own it?

Sure you did. (insert eye roll here) I am convinced that you played it for quite some time, because your depiction of game play is... completely wrong. Looks to me like you just read some negative reviews, and are basing your opinion off of that.

There are legitimate gripes for Ryse, just not the ones you mentioned. If you haven't played a game before, don't post crap like you have.

I repeat, I played it, at an MS event, with a bunch of smily reps trying to convince us that it was a good game. It was garbage, and everyone was really uncomfortable as the MS reps kept trying to pretend that QTE after QTE = a good game. There was nothing else TO the gameplay, just the poor combat.

The gameplay was in fact nothing but button bashing and QTEs, if you enjoy that, fine. But the rest of us think it's crap.

#21 Edited by I_can_haz (6473 posts) -

LOL @ lems still going Ryse after it scored 4/10. Dat desperation

#22 Posted by MBirdy88 (7163 posts) -

@shawn30 said:

Ryse is a very good, underrated game. It flopped here and in most reviews, lol. But I really enjoyed it. And the multiplayer was very underrated as well. Reviews are like assholes, everybody got one. Just judge a game based on your opinion of it. Watch videos, read previews, maybe read a couple of reviews just to get a sense of if the game is broken technically or the controls suck, ect. But overall be your own judge. I would have missed out on a ton of games I truly enjoyed if all I went by were reviews on gaming websites.

This is my thoughts. (regarding reviews not Ryse) ... most of the GOTYs here and many other places to me have been some of the more shallow graphic whoring games. (except maybe mario galaxy) .... so many games better than "the top 10" on metacritic... as much as I loved Ocarina of Time....

loads of low scoring gems that I find better than the 9s.

#23 Posted by GrenadeLauncher (3209 posts) -

@GrenadeLauncher said:

Ryse is pedestrian shit though.

And @locopatho, @Krelian-co Played it a lot?

I have. What parts/levels did you not like and why? Maybe we can play multiplayer sometime. What is your gamertag?

I played it at an expo. Had to line up for 45 minutes to do so because MS can't organise for shit (PlayStation allowed you to line up for the bits you wanted rather than the whole thing in one go). Derivative gameplay and linear as all hell, plus the constant slow mo got on my nerves after a while.

#24 Posted by sts106mat (18760 posts) -

@sts106mat said:

Ryse is a great game in my opinion. you dont have to look far to find plenty of people enjoyed it too. some of the reviewers clearly just tried it on recruit and ran through it.

Played on legendary it is a good challenge which requires clever use of the reward system.

the characters, voice acting, story and sound etc are superb.

The multiplayer mode is a good co-op experience and reaching high combo's and maximizing reward takes patience and strategy aswell as timing.

haters can hate all they want.

Agreed. I have gripes about it. For one, if you are going to have human looking enemies, they all shouldn't be clones of each other. And, the story was a little dumb.

But, I don't think it deserves a 4/10. I can think of a lot of games that scored higher than that and are far worse.

totally, true. the game of course has it flaws and that is my major complaint. the only benefit it has, is it lets you know what tactics to use.

i have to disagree about the story though, the gods on earth at play..kinda cool.

Here's an interesting article if you fancy a read.

http://venturebeat.com/2014/02/08/history-behind-the-game-ryse-son-of-rome/

#25 Edited by Heil68 (42673 posts) -

@GrenadeLauncher said:

Ryse is pedestrian shit though.

And @locopatho, @Krelian-co Played it a lot?

I have. What parts/levels did you not like and why? Maybe we can play multiplayer sometime. What is your gamertag?

I'd play! Add me. I love playing Ryse: Son of Knack!

#26 Edited by sts106mat (18760 posts) -

@Heil68 said:

@StormyJoe said:

@GrenadeLauncher said:

Ryse is pedestrian shit though.

And @locopatho, @Krelian-co Played it a lot?

I have. What parts/levels did you not like and why? Maybe we can play multiplayer sometime. What is your gamertag?

I'd play! Add me. I love playing Ryse: Son of Knack!

You still owe me a few rounds in the colloseum. I've officially passed your barbarian kills though now.

#27 Posted by GrenadeLauncher (3209 posts) -

Ryse is a great game in my opinion. you dont have to look far to find plenty of people enjoyed it too. some of the reviewers clearly just tried it on recruit and ran through it.

Played on legendary it is a good challenge which requires clever use of the reward system.

the characters, voice acting, story and sound etc are superb.

The multiplayer mode is a good co-op experience and reaching high combo's and maximizing reward takes patience and strategy aswell as timing.

haters can hate all they want.

;) All in good jest. I played Knack at the same expo and I rather enjoyed it, despite the judder in the city and similar linearity. It had actual gameplay too.

#28 Posted by misterpmedia (3362 posts) -

All I'll say is, if people can say the GodoW games had shallow gameplay, Ryse was a mere droplet on a desert. I was hoping it to be MS's answer to the GodoW franchise with a beast of a Roman version of it but it fell extremely short. Was very disapoint seeing it was the only Xbone launch game I was interested in. Instead it's basically like a playable 300 movie.

#29 Posted by Heil68 (42673 posts) -

@Heil68 said:

@StormyJoe said:

@GrenadeLauncher said:

Ryse is pedestrian shit though.

And @locopatho, @Krelian-co Played it a lot?

I have. What parts/levels did you not like and why? Maybe we can play multiplayer sometime. What is your gamertag?

I'd play! Add me. I love playing Ryse: Son of Knack!

You still owe me a few rounds in the colloseum. I've officially passed your barbarian kills though now.

oh yeah? Maybe we can play a round or 2 this weekend if we hook up for TF? I'm not even sure how many kills I had..haha

#30 Posted by StormyJoe (4577 posts) -

@StormyJoe said:

@locopatho said:

@StormyJoe said:

@GrenadeLauncher said:

Ryse is pedestrian shit though.

And @locopatho, @Krelian-co Played it a lot?

I have. What parts/levels did you not like and why? Maybe we can play multiplayer sometime. What is your gamertag?

Played it at an MS event before the ONE launched. It was dreadful, nothing but endless "epic" slow motion and QTEs, and when there weren't QTEs there was just button bashing. Why would I own it?

Sure you did. (insert eye roll here) I am convinced that you played it for quite some time, because your depiction of game play is... completely wrong. Looks to me like you just read some negative reviews, and are basing your opinion off of that.

There are legitimate gripes for Ryse, just not the ones you mentioned. If you haven't played a game before, don't post crap like you have.

I repeat, I played it, at an MS event, with a bunch of smily reps trying to convince us that it was a good game. It was garbage, and everyone was really uncomfortable as the MS reps kept trying to pretend that QTE after QTE = a good game. There was nothing else TO the gameplay, just the poor combat.

The gameplay was in fact nothing but button bashing and QTEs, if you enjoy that, fine. But the rest of us think it's crap.

Sure you did.

That's not at all an accurate description of the game play. So, I think you are not being truthful.

#31 Edited by Draign (526 posts) -

I love Ryse. The story, the graphics, and the gameplay is epic. If I played the game on easy like the reviewer likely did, I might have been bored. But im not a pansy and my sword stays thirsty.

#32 Posted by misterpmedia (3362 posts) -

still no lock yet?

#33 Posted by FastRobby (792 posts) -

I loved the story, graphics and sound in Ryse, no PS4 game comes close to those graphics at the moment. Gameplay wise isn't that great, it's fun, but I get why some people would call it repetitive. I would give it a 7-8/10

#34 Posted by sts106mat (18760 posts) -

@Heil68 said:

@sts106mat said:

@Heil68 said:

@StormyJoe said:

@GrenadeLauncher said:

Ryse is pedestrian shit though.

And @locopatho, @Krelian-co Played it a lot?

I have. What parts/levels did you not like and why? Maybe we can play multiplayer sometime. What is your gamertag?

I'd play! Add me. I love playing Ryse: Son of Knack!

You still owe me a few rounds in the colloseum. I've officially passed your barbarian kills though now.

oh yeah? Maybe we can play a round or 2 this weekend if we hook up for TF? I'm not even sure how many kills I had..haha

I doubt we'll be able to stop playing titanfall to be honest.. it's really got that "ahhh just one more game"...thing going on.

As for Ryse, you were the top of my friends list for ages just on kills, until i added a player who had killed over 100,000 lol

#35 Edited by Heil68 (42673 posts) -

@sts106mat:

100,000? 0_o

That's some dedication right there. Damn.

#36 Posted by LanceX2 (305 posts) -

people hate , the game was beautiful and voice acting was good. Its gameplay is what people hate but I enjoyed it. That said I got it for 40$ lol and got 30 hours out of it

#37 Posted by sts106mat (18760 posts) -

@Heil68 said:

@sts106mat:

100,000? 0_o

That's some dedication right there. Damn.

thats nothing mate. go check out the in game leaderboards, you can filter by XP or kills......then click on the dude called "jerryRysechamp" look at shit LOL.

not long after the recent DLC released, I was getting matched with a lot of the high ranking players, i am still under rank 50 i think, i've seen a few rank 300 +.

The game is fun, especially in co-op, but no way in hell i could play it that long.

#38 Posted by sts106mat (18760 posts) -

@lancex2 said:

people hate , the game was beautiful and voice acting was good. Its gameplay is what people hate but I enjoyed it. That said I got it for 40$ lol and got 30 hours out of it

dead right, I think the guy who did the voice / mo-cap for marius, is just a revelation. it makes me feel like playing it right now to be honest. I am glad i got the season pass, the survival DLC is hell a fun, you have to keep on killing as your life drains away quicker and quicker.

#39 Edited by Krelian-co (10047 posts) -

Lems = " i swear ryse is good guys!!!!! ignore the thousand of people online and almost all reviewers saying it's garbage, i'm not biased at all!!!!"

#40 Posted by Krelian-co (10047 posts) -

@GrenadeLauncher said:

Ryse is pedestrian shit though.

And @locopatho, @Krelian-co Played it a lot?

I have. What parts/levels did you not like and why? Maybe we can play multiplayer sometime. What is your gamertag?

actually i played it a few hours in a friend's house, i don't own that turd called xbone, feel free to ask me if i care if you believe it or not.

#41 Posted by Draign (526 posts) -

@StormyJoe said:

@GrenadeLauncher said:

Ryse is pedestrian shit though.

And @locopatho, @Krelian-co Played it a lot?

I have. What parts/levels did you not like and why? Maybe we can play multiplayer sometime. What is your gamertag?

actually i played it a few hours in a friend's house, i don't own that turd called xbone, feel free to ask me if i care if you believe it or not.

Dude, relax. Youre on a warpath against Xbox.

#42 Posted by Krelian-co (10047 posts) -

@draign said:

@Krelian-co said:

@StormyJoe said:

@GrenadeLauncher said:

Ryse is pedestrian shit though.

And @locopatho, @Krelian-co Played it a lot?

I have. What parts/levels did you not like and why? Maybe we can play multiplayer sometime. What is your gamertag?

actually i played it a few hours in a friend's house, i don't own that turd called xbone, feel free to ask me if i care if you believe it or not.

Dude, relax. Youre on a warpath against Xbox.

not really is just how i talk to dumb people.

#43 Posted by StormyJoe (4577 posts) -

@draign said:

@Krelian-co said:

@StormyJoe said:

@GrenadeLauncher said:

Ryse is pedestrian shit though.

And @locopatho, @Krelian-co Played it a lot?

I have. What parts/levels did you not like and why? Maybe we can play multiplayer sometime. What is your gamertag?

actually i played it a few hours in a friend's house, i don't own that turd called xbone, feel free to ask me if i care if you believe it or not.

Dude, relax. Youre on a warpath against Xbox.

not really is just how i talk to dumb people.

Dumb people... LOL! You saying that to me is like a gazelle picking a fight with a lion. HA HA HA HA!!!

#44 Posted by lhughey (4221 posts) -

I think a 4 for Ryse was too low. I would give it a 6. Its entertaining, but repetitive.

#45 Posted by tormentos (16497 posts) -

@GrenadeLauncher said:

Ryse is pedestrian shit though.

And @locopatho, @Krelian-co Played it a lot?

I have. What parts/levels did you not like and why? Maybe we can play multiplayer sometime. What is your gamertag?

The new lemming excuse to justify xbox games getting bad score,funny enough Kingtito also bring that excuse as well exactly on a thread about scores,funny how you and him almost do the same and grab the same arguments...lol

Is Kingtito another of your alter Stormy.?

So when a PS4 game flops it flops and no excuse can be use,but when xbox one games flop like Ryse which by the way Ultra flopped,some one cow most play the game to say is bad,you lemming are sure breaking the hypocrite meter lately..

Ryse is a great game in my opinion. you dont have to look far to find plenty of people enjoyed it too. some of the reviewers clearly just tried it on recruit and ran through it.

Played on legendary it is a good challenge which requires clever use of the reward system.

the characters, voice acting, story and sound etc are superb.

The multiplayer mode is a good co-op experience and reaching high combo's and maximizing reward takes patience and strategy aswell as timing.

haters can hate all they want.

Ryse is a piece of crap game that scored 4,your opinion is completely biased on the fact that you like that crap and that you are a sad lemming,the fact that you were making fun of Infamous a few days ago when this game score 4 and you claim is great show how hypocrite you are and biased to the extreme,at least i know knack was sh**,after saying this game is great you can't even say anything on PS4 is bad if it has a score or 4 and up.

Agreed. I have gripes about it. For one, if you are going to have human looking enemies, they all shouldn't be clones of each other. And, the story was a little dumb.

But, I don't think it deserves a 4/10. I can think of a lot of games that scored higher than that and are far worse.

Oh boy i am saving this thread it will come in handy when one of you hypocrites try to downplay a game that score 8 or 7 on PS4,while you defend that piece of crap game that flopped every where.lol

Have some self respect you and sts106mats and admit this game suck ass,it bad boring and repetitive,and no i don't have to play it almost all sites agree is bad.

#46 Edited by StormyJoe (4577 posts) -

@tormentos: First off, I am not a lemming. I have said positive and negative things about the XBox One, and positive and negative things about the PS4. What I don't do, is spout FUD like you do.

Also, I don't act like I have played games when I have not. I have made fun of cows when PS3/4 games have flopped, but I don't act as though I have played them. I do the same with 360/One games.

Just because someone defends the XBox One from zealots like you, does not make that person a fanboy. You may not be able to discern the difference, but that is your problem, not mine.

You can "save" every single post I make - your neuroticism does not affect me.

#47 Posted by Slashkice (12980 posts) -

That article needs an editor.

Anyways, people enjoying bad games isn't anything new. Whatever problems plague Ryse don't disappear as a result.

#48 Posted by tormentos (16497 posts) -

@tormentos: First off, I am not a lemming. I have said positive and negative things about the XBox One, and positive and negative things about the PS4. What I don't do, is spout FUD like you do.

Also, I don't act like I have played games when I have not. I have made fun of cows when PS3/4 games have flopped, but I don't act as though I have played them. I do the same with 360/One games.

Just because someone defends the XBox One from zealots like you, does not make that person a fanboy. You may not be able to discern the difference, but that is your problem, not mine.

You can "save" every single post I make - your neuroticism does not affect me.

Man lemming this generation are pathetic...

Stormyjoe.

Kingtito

Blackace

And counting who deny been lemmings but you do is kiss MS ass.

#49 Posted by Shewgenja (7945 posts) -

Knack in 2016!

#50 Posted by StormyJoe (4577 posts) -

@StormyJoe said:

@tormentos: First off, I am not a lemming. I have said positive and negative things about the XBox One, and positive and negative things about the PS4. What I don't do, is spout FUD like you do.

Also, I don't act like I have played games when I have not. I have made fun of cows when PS3/4 games have flopped, but I don't act as though I have played them. I do the same with 360/One games.

Just because someone defends the XBox One from zealots like you, does not make that person a fanboy. You may not be able to discern the difference, but that is your problem, not mine.

You can "save" every single post I make - your neuroticism does not affect me.

Man lemming this generation are pathetic...

Stormyjoe.

Kingtito

Blackace

And counting who deny been lemmings but you do is kiss MS ass.

Whatever.