Has the West overtaken Japan in the fighting genre?

Heck no.

@Lulu_Lulu: came here to say that, well the DoA5 mention. Lol

Dead Ore Alive is just softcore pornography for animoo fans.

This thread is proof that Hermits have no idea what they're talking about when it comes to fighters.

But I'm right.

But you aren't. If you judge a fighter on things that have nothing to do with the gameplay system, you aren't allowed to actually say anything like that. DoA5 and 5U are actually pretty deep games, but I won't deny there is a lot of fanservice in the game.

I can't really take NRS games too seriously because they don't know how to balance the games correctly, or know what crowd of games to listen to. KI is also not without problems.

If you punish someone or win a mixup, you then get to play RPS to see if it even matters. And because of the nature of the combat system, the game itself loses a ton of a high level spacing game that most, if not all, other fighters have. Moving forward while comboing turns a hit from "oh I hit with X, and I am this far so I can do this combo, or this combo" into "oh I hit with anything, time to do a full combo if the person didn't make the proper read".

Injustice is probably my favourite fighting game out there, but part of that is because it's not as deep as some other titles in the genre. I'm not much of a fighting game player (Mortal Kombat is really the only other fighter I enjoy) so I enjoy that aspect of it. I can fire it up and have a great time without getting swallowed hole by the thing.

The fact that it's set in a universe that I know and love also helps me enjoy it more.

The stuff in italics is straight up wrong and the stuff in bold could be summed up as "I want more realism."

This has nothing to do with the quality of those games and everything to do with your preferences. You are complaining about the lack of realism in games where people throw fireballs at each other. Really?

To the TC's question: No. The best fighting games are still made by Capcom, Arc System Works, SEGA, Namco, and even Team Ninja.

I don't want to belittle Netherrealm or Double Helix here, because they do make good games. They just aren't on the same level as the Japanese studios.

He's also wrong about a lack of focus on evasion. Especially in games like Tekken/DoA/VF where it's extremely movement based.

Yeah, I think I italicized that one, but yes, especially in 3D fighters, this is wrong. And in games like Street Fighter as well. The game is entirely based on being at the right place on the screen and punishing wiffs.

Oh, oops. I don't really use GS much anymore so I honestly couldn't tell the italics where there lol.

(also, Xrd changes are cray)

We have already established dead or alive is soft porn for pimply faced animoo fans. 5U is a game noone has heard of and thus, shite. Injustice is the future, the west has overtaken Japan in practically every genre, it was inevitable.

And then you devolved into a terrible troll. Oh well.

lol no. Injustice isn't necessarily a bad game per se, but let's be serious here.

The game has some balancing issues. Also, stage interactables (needs no explanation), and the netcode is pretty poop, especially in comparison to Arc System fighters like BlazBlue and P4A, or anything that uses GGPO.

It sounds like a lot of people in this thread can't Hadouken.

@ uninspiredcup

Sorry but fighting games are clearly Japans territory. Thats quite the rock you've been living under.

So the Double Helix-made Filler Shitstink has suddenly tipped the balance? lol

The best fighting games are the ones you find in the arcades. I don't think any western fighting games actually appear in the arcades anymore.

Yeah, should be interesting. I am going to miss Sidewinders, though, not gonna lie.

Please shut the fvck up, if you were in the same room as me I'd slap you

They don't really wobble anymore obsessively like DOA4, they're also much more smaller.... and kasumi looks alot more serious/real.

Not to mention how bad ass/kick ass/ scary she was in Gaiden.

@TorqueHappens08:

Is it weird that I think thats a bad thing ?

Still a Great Game Though. I got pummeled in Tekken.

American fighting games aren't afraid to let newer players at least get a chance to know the little details

In terms of story? Perhaps.

In terms of gameplay? No, just no.

Like most fighting games which have been around for some time, be it Tekken, Virtua Fighter, King of Fighters, MvC or Soul Calibur, even if you knew all the little details, you still won't get very far against an experience player. The competitive level of fighting games, pretty much like sports, are built up over time. And since these games have been around for more than 10 years, the competitiveness has evolved throughout these years. What chance does a newcomer have against 10 years worth of evolution?

And unlike these Japanese fighters, there aren't that many western fighters that even survived this long. Killer Instinct just got resurrected. Injustice is a new game. Mortal Kombat has had such radical change in its gameplay it's not even considered the same game throughout all these years. The reason why you feel that western games are more welcoming is probably because they didn't have such a long history. Mortal Kombat is the only exception, but the 2D scene of Mortal Kombat has been dead for almost 15 years until recently.

nah this thread is proof that if you post a thread about fighters on gamespot, you have no idea what you are talking about. please go to srk,vfdc , and the tekken family board sites if you wanna learn something

this is why no one is going to believe you....you think warner bro fighters are good.

THANK YOU! So many people fail to see DOA's fighting system is actually pretty deep

Injustice and Mortal Kombat are bad fighting games. I got third at a few Quake 2 and 3 tournaments and won a bunch of ladders, so you can trust me.

No but really. Nobody in the FGC really seems to care about any fighting games from America. Injustice probably pulls about as much support as a 3rd or 4th tier Japanese fighter like BlazBlue.