Halo 3's A.I (New info)

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#1 FrozenLiquid
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Well, before I leave tonight, I'd like to leave you guys with a bit of new info from Bungie's Weekly Update, which coincidentally concerns what we've all been wondering about, Halo 3's A.I:

Frank and I have been spending a bit of time playing System Link Co-Op, in addition to our semi-regular multiplayer sessions and on numerous occasions lately we've witnessed brand new behaviors from Halo 3's principle foe - the Brutes. In Halo 3's final stages, Brutes have begun to think. They've become acutely aware of you and your location, so much, in fact, that in areas where you are above them, they've begun to climb. Reaching up with their giant arms, they pull themselves up to your elevation, blast their way through your marine buddies and if you're lucky you might turn around in time to hear the squishy thud of a spike grenade ripping through your MJOLNIR armor.

Another way the Brutes continue to prove to me that they are in fact, smarter than I am, is in their ability to adapt and adjust to situations on the fly. Future Halo 3-owners can look forward to scads of moments where they'll believe they are about to execute some grand strategy, only to have a Brute or a pack of Brutes show up and foil your plan, using the exact correct countermeasures. As fun as Halo and Halo 2's Elites are to fight, the Brutes in Halo 3 have shaped up into something really special. I've had more fun fighting them, than any foe in previous Halo games. [Me too, I like 'em better than Elites, for fighting- last minute Frankie departing thought.]

September 25th is getting closer.

But yet, September 25th is so far away.

Bring on the epic WIN.

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#2 jg4xchamp
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Love Halo.

but I focuse most of my attention on your sig
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#3 BK-Sleeper
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That's scary. A future sign of the Terminator movie becoming reality?
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#4 furtherfan
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some people don't realise this game will be very good.
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#5 Reyes360
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some people don't realise this game will be very good.furtherfan

honestly I am looking foward to it more than any other game and that wasnt true 3 months ago. The hype around it and everything really has me wanting this game more and more. I know Bungie is gonna deliver.

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#6 smallcaplegend
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sounds......awesome
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#7 H3llstrike
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Good read thanks TC...
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#8 furtherfan
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[QUOTE="furtherfan"]some people don't realise this game will be very good.Reyes360

honestly I am looking foward to it more than any other game and that wasnt true 3 months ago. The hype around it and everything really has me wanting this game more and more. I know Bungie is gonna deliver.

yep, and i'm not even a Halo fan. i just KNOW this game is gonna be quality.

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#9 smokeydabear076
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Sounds nice.
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#10 Daytona_178
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AHhhh, more Halo 3 goodness!

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im tire of it seriously whats so hard about giving a demosntration!!!!!just like any other game writting sbout it is one thing but showing it is another
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Sounds coo. Cuz I remember beatin' Halo2 with one of my homeboys way to fast.

But I don't think those AI will touch the AI that's in Resistance: FOM

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im tire of it seriously whats so hard about giving a demosntration!!!!!just like any other game writting sbout it is one thing but showing it is anotherOldParr

we're tired of you!

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Sounds coo. Cuz I remember beatin' Halo2 with one of my homeboys way to fast.

But I don't think those AI will touch the AI that's in Resistance: FOM

GKinnel

Topping Resistance won't be hard, considering it wasn't exactly the best when it came out.

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#15 GKinnel
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[QUOTE="GKinnel"]

Sounds coo. Cuz I remember beatin' Halo2 with one of my homeboys way to fast.

But I don't think those AI will touch the AI that's in Resistance: FOM

Smoke_ManMuscle

Topping Resistance won't be hard, considering it wasn't exactly the best when it came out.

I dunno man. The AI with R:FoM was tough. Toughest I've played in a long time.

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#16 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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Halo has always had fairly good AI for a fps. Since the days of Halo CE, I've always been impressed. I would expect Halo 3 to continue and expand upon this area.
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#17 skrat_01
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Sounds Noice!

Wonder if the end result will be as good as FEARs.

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#18 JackBurton28
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Sounds Noice!

Wonder if the end result will be as good as FEARs.

skrat_01

Fear on pc was really really good. I heard the 360 version wasn't as good but ports usually end up that way anyways (played Condemened on pc and didn't like the controls at all)

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[QUOTE="skrat_01"]

Sounds Noice!

Wonder if the end result will be as good as FEARs.

JackBurton28

Fear on pc was really really good. I heard the 360 version wasn't as good but ports usually end up that way anyways (played Condemened on pc and didn't like the controls at all)

Yeah, I remember playing the AI on hard on the 360 and sometimes they would just stand there. That had something to do with why it was a one day rental.
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[QUOTE="Smoke_ManMuscle"][QUOTE="GKinnel"]

Sounds coo. Cuz I remember beatin' Halo2 with one of my homeboys way to fast.

But I don't think those AI will touch the AI that's in Resistance: FOM

GKinnel

Topping Resistance won't be hard, considering it wasn't exactly the best when it came out.

I dunno man. The AI with R:FoM was tough. Toughest I've played in a long time.

Yeah i have to say Resistance AI was pretty tough, but you need to play some more games:).

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I'm hyping this game AAAA. And if it doesn't get AAAA, it will probably be because there aren't enought multiplayer maps :( only 10 or 11 as of now. Halo 3 is going to deliver. Neverming teh AAAA, more like a 9.5
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#22 TMontana1004
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Lmao and PS3 gamers say Killzone 2 will be better? Nice try! *gives high five*

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Sounds good. Key word sounds good. Give me a demonstration. Lots of people say that the AI is awesome and they promise really intelligent AI. Then when it comes out its not like anything they said. Seems cool though. Its not that insane. I consider enemies that have to adjust to surrounding and then adjust again because there cover was blown up and move to a new location. Or decide that they are going to die and just rush you. Or send in for backup with jeeps with guns or attack helicoptors. Or just more troops. To me thats good AI.
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Sounds good. Key word sounds good. Give me a demonstration. Lots of people say that the AI is awesome and they promise really intelligent AI. Then when it comes out its not like anything they said. Seems cool though. Its not that insane. I consider enemies that have to adjust to surrounding and then adjust again because there cover was blown up and move to a new location. Or decide that they are going to die and just rush you. Or send in for backup with jeeps with guns or attack helicoptors. Or just more troops. To me thats good AI.Killfox

The brutes in Halo 3 will be just as smart as you described above.

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[QUOTE="Killfox"]Sounds good. Key word sounds good. Give me a demonstration. Lots of people say that the AI is awesome and they promise really intelligent AI. Then when it comes out its not like anything they said. Seems cool though. Its not that insane. I consider enemies that have to adjust to surrounding and then adjust again because there cover was blown up and move to a new location. Or decide that they are going to die and just rush you. Or send in for backup with jeeps with guns or attack helicoptors. Or just more troops. To me thats good AI._KenKittyragi_

The brutes in Halo 3 will be just as smart as you described above.

Yeah the game im talking about is crysis. If you didnt get the hint that everything i said is what the AI does in crysis. Crysis AI >>>> Halo3 AI. Its already been proven and we can actually see it. Its not just someone telling me this. Yeah im to bad halo3 doesnt have destructable environments so how is the brutes AI going to be better than crysis. Ai that has to adjust to its surroundings in fully destructable environments is amazing. That cant really be said about halo3 AI.

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some people don't realise this game will be very good.furtherfan

QFT

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#28 lantus
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im tire of it seriously whats so hard about giving a demosntration!!!!!just like any other game writting sbout it is one thing but showing it is anotherOldParr

You do realize, Bungie has freaking spoiled us this time right? Halo Combat Evolved and Halo 2 didn't get nearly the amount of attention before they launched. Bungie knows what's best for their games, Halo 3 will exceed everyones expectations, because people have come to the assumption it won't be good because the graphics aren't mind blowing, which we have no idea of how good they really are.

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#29 Raidea
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Uch, how awsome it sounds, its still coming from Bungie, and the way he says it is corny, as if he doesnt know the Scripts written for the BrutesR-Dot-Yung

He doesn't...he's the PR guy.

I'm hyping this game AAAA. And if it doesn't get AAAA, it will probably be because there aren't enought multiplayer maps :( only 10 or 11 as of now. Halo 3 is going to deliver. Neverming teh AAAA, more like a 9.5_KenKittyragi_

They have said the game will have 15 or more maps.

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Halo AI is always tough when you bump it up to herioic or legendary. especially legendary.

Halo 1 is almost impossible to beat that game on legendary alone.

Halo 2 still hard

Halo 3 looks like it will be tougher than both.
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[QUOTE="_KenKittyragi_"]

[QUOTE="Killfox"]Sounds good. Key word sounds good. Give me a demonstration. Lots of people say that the AI is awesome and they promise really intelligent AI. Then when it comes out its not like anything they said. Seems cool though. Its not that insane. I consider enemies that have to adjust to surrounding and then adjust again because there cover was blown up and move to a new location. Or decide that they are going to die and just rush you. Or send in for backup with jeeps with guns or attack helicoptors. Or just more troops. To me thats good AI.Killfox

The brutes in Halo 3 will be just as smart as you described above.

Yeah the game im talking about is crysis. If you didnt get the hint that everything i said is what the AI does in crysis. Crysis AI >>>> Halo3 AI. Its already been proven and we can actually see it. Its not just someone telling me this. Yeah im to bad halo3 doesnt have destructable environments so how is the brutes AI going to be better than crysis. Ai that has to adjust to its surroundings in fully destructable environments is amazing. That cant really be said about halo3 AI.

Yeah, Crysis AI is definently more advanced and muc harder to develop because the enviroment is huge and dynamic. Crysis uses an interesting way to deal with it though. The enviroment and objects in the enviroment actually communicate with the AI. So the enviroment actually has AI also. The only game that uses this technique is The Sims. If Halo 3's AI is what they say it is, it should be pretty good.

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#32 Raidea
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Halo AI is always tough when you bump it up to herioic or legendary. especially legendary.

Halo 1 is almost impossible to beat that game on legendary alone.

Halo 2 still hard

Halo 3 looks like it will be tougher than both. jg4xchamp

Halo 3 is easier on Legendry apparently, because it's less unfair.

Besides, just because the game is hard does not mean it has good A.I!

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#33 Tylendal
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some people don't realise this game will be very good.furtherfan

People always bash Halo for having bad graphics, but to quote a common cliche. It's what's inside that counts. Halo 3 is shaping up to be an incredibly well made game.

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#34 dgroundwater
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I'm sure the AI will be awesome. I'm also sure Bungie has also commented on why there will be little destructibility in the environments. It has to do with things like balance of gameplay. How breaking walls and objects would ruin the balance of the game.
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]Halo AI is always tough when you bump it up to herioic or legendary. especially legendary.

Halo 1 is almost impossible to beat that game on legendary alone.

Halo 2 still hard

Halo 3 looks like it will be tougher than both. Raidea

Halo 3 is easier on Legendry apparently, because it's less unfair.

Besides, just because the game is hard does not mean it has good A.I!

Just becuase the jackle Snipers will be less frequant. The difficulty changes will be more to do with what the AI does, instead of just having a godly aim.