Halo 3, Forza 2, WIi games, Resistance etc. When do graphics take a back seat?

All of these games are fantastic.  None of them are ugly by any means.  None of them may not be a techinical marvel like gears of war but all seem to offer awesome gameplay.   When does the complaing about the graphics stop and the appreciation of the great fun it is to play these games begin?

Isn't the #! reason why we play games is because they are fun?   Alot of users here have forgotten that. 

Some. I still have Arcade Volleyball tournies from time to time.

However, good gameplay is NOT an excuse for poor graphics. Good graphics do not hinder gameplay. So, a game with terrific gameplay AND terrific graphics will always be better than a game with terrific gameplay and poor graphics.

Considering this, I might lean in favor of slightly worse gameplay for much better graphics... to a point. 

I appreciate graphics with respect to the hardware they've been achieved on. It seems silly to complain about GBA's graphics when the 360 is out, so I don't understand why you'd make the same mistake of crying about the Wii's graphics when it wasn't built to create those outlandish visuals.Smoke_ManMuscle

Problem there, chief. The GBA is not in competition to the 360... the Wii is somewhere in the line of the competition. It IS correct to take into account graphics capabilities when discussing the 360 vs. Wii, the same way the Wiimote should be taken into account. The great question is: Does the Wiimote improve gameplay enough to offset the graphical disadvantage considering the $90-150 price difference? 

The Wii wasn't built to create the visuals, you're right. Should it be excused because the creator didn't care enough for those graphics? I say no. It's a decision Nintendo will have to deal with.

It's like buying a Scion and saying "well, the creators didn't intend for the car to look pretty, so we shouldn't take into account that the competition is more appealing, even if a bit more expensive". It makes no sense.

i picked the some part. all the graphics have to be is acceptable. Zelda TP and Superpapermario are acceptable. same with future wii games. Halo 3 looks fine to me, and the gameplay looks SICK. I dont know why people are looking for those amazing eye candy games, most of them are really shallow, have bad storylines, lack some serious depth, etc. The only exception is Gears and Oblivion where the gameplay and graphics are both great. Other games while they maybe good, they arent special. Resistance isnt that great of a FPS. You can find way better. Motorstorm lacks depth in terms of racers. Lost Planet is good but nothing special IMO. jg4xchamp

I agree 100% with you 

All of these games are fantastic.  None of them are ugly by any means.  None of them may not be a techinical marvel like gears of war but all seem to offer awesome gameplay.   When does the complaing about the graphics stop and the appreciation of the great fun it is to play these games begin?

 

Isn't the #! reason why we play games is because they are fun?   Alot of users here have forgotten that. 

YourExpert

Isn't that like asking why we all want a cool looking car, truck, suv?

It makes us feel better about ourselves.  Sure we could all drive around that 1980 pento, but to be honest who in their right mind wouldn't take a BMW or Lexus if they could afford it. 

Gameplay has to be a part of the games but so does graphics.  This is like saying "She has a wonderful personality.....but looks like a horse with bucked teeth"......a balance between looks and personality is the best combination.  Right now the Wii is the horse with a great personality........there is no way to make over the horse.  In the case of PS3 and X360, they are thin blond bimbo.....we are willing to give her time to work out those personality shortcommings because again, they can be worked out over time with a some effort.  No effort is going to make a horse look good (unless your from certain states I won't mention)

Graphics take a back set about 10 minutes after you start playing the game.

"Visually so far I have to admit that it doesn't look as good as I would have hoped. I heard mentioned quite often from other players that it looked like a Halo 2.5, but I've gone back and played Halo 2 multiplayer lately and I believe Halo 3 looks much better. Maybe I've been spoiled by too many solid next-gen first person shooters as of late, and was expecting Halo 3 to top those, as well. With that said, you see the visor actually going online now, and the HUD is actually imbedded and arched on the inside of the visor. Water effects are outstanding, and a spike grenade exploding in a corridor looks quite impressive. However, we've still noticed a number of jaggies in some places, especially at a distance."

Never. Graphics and Gameplay are just as important as each other.  Imagine GTAIII in 2D :|..you don't have to GTAII, and look how that turned out.

"Visually so far I have to admit that it doesn't look as good as I would have hoped. I heard mentioned quite often from other players that it looked like a Halo 2.5, but I've gone back and played Halo 2 multiplayer lately and I believe Halo 3 looks much better. Maybe I've been spoiled by too many solid next-gen first person shooters as of late, and was expecting Halo 3 to top those, as well. With that said, you see the visor actually going online now, and the HUD is actually imbedded and arched on the inside of the visor. Water effects are outstanding, and a spike grenade exploding in a corridor looks quite impressive. However, we've still noticed a number of jaggies in some places, especially at a distance."

 

Never. Graphics and Gameplay are just as important as each other.  Imagine GTAIII in 2D :|..you don't have to GTAII, and look how that turned out.

Adrian_Cloud

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"Visually so far I have to admit that it doesn't look as good as I would have hoped. I heard mentioned quite often from other players that it looked like a Halo 2.5, but I've gone back and played Halo 2 multiplayer lately and I believe Halo 3 looks much better. Maybe I've been spoiled by too many solid next-gen first person shooters as of late, and was expecting Halo 3 to top those, as well. With that said, you see the visor actually going online now, and the HUD is actually imbedded and arched on the inside of the visor. Water effects are outstanding, and a spike grenade exploding in a corridor looks quite impressive. However, we've still noticed a number of jaggies in some places, especially at a distance."

 

Never. Graphics and Gameplay are just as important as each other. Imagine GTAIII in 2D :|..you don't have to GTAII, and look how that turned out.

11Marcel

No there not buddy. :lol: Graphics are everything you see. And my example from GTA, should show the significance of 3d graphics in a game with GTA style of gameplay. 

I remember when fun used to come free with great graphics.

Somehow they had a fight and now fun no longer calls or writes anymore

All of these games are fantastic.  None of them are ugly by any means.  None of them may not be a techinical marvel like gears of war but all seem to offer awesome gameplay.   When does the complaing about the graphics stop and the appreciation of the great fun it is to play these games begin?

 

Isn't the #! reason why we play games is because they are fun?   Alot of users here have forgotten that. 

YourExpert

[QUOTE="YourExpert"]

All of these games are fantastic.  None of them are ugly by any means.  None of them may not be a techinical marvel like gears of war but all seem to offer awesome gameplay.   When does the complaing about the graphics stop and the appreciation of the great fun it is to play these games begin?

 

Isn't the #! reason why we play games is because they are fun?   Alot of users here have forgotten that. 

donalbane

Technically speaking it was a gamecube game although my guess is they probably couldn't make it look any better with building specfically for the Wii anyways.

[QUOTE="YourExpert"]

All of these games are fantastic. None of them are ugly by any means. None of them may not be a techinical marvel like gears of war but all seem to offer awesome gameplay. When does the complaing about the graphics stop and the appreciation of the great fun it is to play these games begin?

 

Isn't the #! reason why we play games is because they are fun? Alot of users here have forgotten that.

darthogre

Isn't that like asking why we all want a cool looking car, truck, suv?

It makes us feel better about ourselves. Sure we could all drive around that 1980 pento, but to be honest who in their right mind wouldn't take a BMW or Lexus if they could afford it.

Gameplay has to be a part of the games but so does graphics. This is like saying "She has a wonderful personality.....but looks like a horse with bucked teeth"......a balance between looks and personality is the best combination. Right now the Wii is the horse with a great personality........there is no way to make over the horse. In the case of PS3 and X360, they are thin blond bimbo.....we are willing to give her time to work out those personality shortcommings because again, they can be worked out over time with a some effort. No effort is going to make a horse look good (unless your from certain states I won't mention)

You are sooo wrong!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ljZOHnZNaBc