GTX 780Ti Review is up * supports 4k resolution

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#1 Edited by jhonMalcovich (4517 posts) -

Gamespot Review

Tom´s Hardware Review

Faster than Titan, 700 bucks.

So the question is why someone needs something like this ?

The answer is simple, to upgrade.

Radeon x290 is cheeper, 550$, but it will require a better power supply and refrigeration system. So the price difference evens out. GTX 780Ti is a good alternative for people who don´t want to deal with sli setups or install a fancy water refrigeration. It´s a great next gen uprade out of the box without small letter in the deal.

GTX 780 Ti GPU SpecsGTX 780 Ti Memory Specs

2880 CUDA Cores
845 Base Clock (MHz)
928 Boost Clock (MHz)
210 GigaTexels/sex Texture Filtering Rate
240 Texture Units
48 ROP units

7.0 Gbps Memory Clock
3072 MB Standard Memory Config
GDDR5 Memory Interface
384-bit GDDR5 Memory Interface Width
336 GB/s Memory Bandwidth
GTX 780 Ti Software SupportGTX 780 Ti Display Support
OpenGL 4.3
PCI Express 3.0
GPU Boost 2.0, 3D Vision, CUDA, DirectX 11, PhysX, TXAA, Adaptive VSync, FXAA, 3D Vision Surround, SLI-ready
Four displays for Multi Monitor
4096x2160 Maximum Digital Resolution
2048x1536 Maximum VGA Resolution
Two Dual Link DVI, One HDMI, One DisplayPort
GTX 780 Ti DimensionsGTX 780 Ti Power Specs
10.5 inches Length
4.3 inches Height
Dual-slot Width
250 W TDP
600 W Recommended Power Supply
One 8-pin and one 6-pin Power Connector

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Battlefield 4 (2x MSAA @ 3840x2160)

Average FPSMinimum FPSMaximum FPS
GTX 780 Ti322444
GTX Titan292140
GTX 780261336

Crysis 3 (High Settings, FXAA @ 3840x2160)

Average FPSMinimum FPSMaximum FPS
GTX 780 Ti302444
GTX Titan272234
GTX 780252037

Call Of Duty: Ghosts (HBAO+, FXAA @ 2560x1600)

Average FPSMinimum FPSMaximum FPS
GTX 780 Ti7528107
GTX Titan7647104
GTX 780543783

Bioshock Infinite (Ultra @ 3840x2160)

Average FPSMinimum FPSMaximum FPS
GTX 780 Ti503467
GTX Titan403361
GTX 780302561

Tomb Raider (Ultra @ 3840x2160)

Average FPSMinimum FPSMaximum FPS
GTX 780 Ti302343
GTX Titan292139
GTX 780281637

Metro: Last Light (Ultra @ 3840x2160)

Average FPSMinimum FPSMaximum FPS
GTX 780 Ti332749
GTX Titan292537
GTX 780252040

Tom´s Hardware Benchmarks

#2 Edited by RossRichard (2336 posts) -

Radeon 290x will be a lot better heat-wise when vendors start adding third-party heatsinks to the equation. Remember the Geforce 480?

#3 Posted by seanmcloughlin (38214 posts) -

It seems like a really good card, ESPECIALLY the non reference models.

It also seems to have good overclock potential

#4 Edited by haberman13 (2414 posts) -

MMMmmmmmmmm.

I feel it, the time to upgrade my 580gtx is coming quickly!

I'm currently getting ~45 FPS on high @ 2560x1600 for most games (and 4 other 1920x1200 non-gaming monitors)

But I need the ultra! First sale ~$500 and I'm in.

#5 Posted by seanmcloughlin (38214 posts) -

Radeon 290x will be a lot better heat-wise when vendors start adding third-party heatsinks to the equation. Remember the Geforce 480?

Yep, the 290x will start hitting it's stride after a while. The price to power ratio on that card is crazy.

Also if Mantle acually has good benchmarks it will put the 290x in a really good position

#6 Posted by jhonMalcovich (4517 posts) -

Radeon 290x will be a lot better heat-wise when vendors start adding third-party heatsinks to the equation. Remember the Geforce 480?

Yep. But it won´t be 550$ then. It will be more expensive.

#7 Posted by clyde46 (44922 posts) -

I don't think the 290X will get any better performance wise with AIB coolers. It comes pretty much running at max. On topic, I've had my credit limit raised on my card!

#8 Posted by GTSaiyanjin2 (5812 posts) -

Think i'll just wait... I'm in no rush to upgrade my PC. The regular GTX 780 would be my pick though, one with an after market cooler, like the EVGA one.

#9 Posted by RossRichard (2336 posts) -

@RossRichard said:

Radeon 290x will be a lot better heat-wise when vendors start adding third-party heatsinks to the equation. Remember the Geforce 480?

Yep. But it won´t be 550$ then. It will be more expensive.

Third-party heatsinks usually add $10-$20 to the cost of the card. But I would expect Radeon 290x to actually get a little cheaper now, because of the 780ti announcement.

#10 Posted by seanmcloughlin (38214 posts) -

@clyde46 said:

I don't think the 290X will get any better performance wise with AIB coolers. It comes pretty much running at max. On topic, I've had my credit limit raised on my card!

It's not necesarily about being more powerful just better than the reference model and a hell of a price to ignore. It'll be good to see a good battle between the two

#11 Posted by _Matt_ (8866 posts) -

sigh.

And now my GTX 780s look like rubbish. Cheers Nvidia :P

#12 Posted by Daious (1120 posts) -

R9 290x does better at 4k but 780ti does better at every other resolution. I wish Nvidia didn't price it so high but it is a nice card. I wonder how much improvement we are going to see with 20nm gpus.

#13 Edited by clyde46 (44922 posts) -

@clyde46 said:

I don't think the 290X will get any better performance wise with AIB coolers. It comes pretty much running at max. On topic, I've had my credit limit raised on my card!

It's not necesarily about being more powerful just better than the reference model and a hell of a price to ignore. It'll be good to see a good battle between the two

Well Nvidia cut the price of the standard 780 by £150! to match the 290X.

#14 Posted by seanmcloughlin (38214 posts) -

@_Matt_ said:

sigh.

And now my GTX 780s look like rubbish. Cheers Nvidia :P

That always happens though. You buy top of the line and soon after a slightly better thing comes along. Just like buying a phone

#15 Edited by DirkXXVI (497 posts) -

4k is just so impractical at this time. If you have a ton of disposable income lying around then more power to you, especially since PC gaming is one of the few forms of media to really employ 4k at this point. Either way it's a little closer now with the R9-290x offering Titan like performance so you can throw 3 or or 4 of those in crossfire for half the cost. And the 780ti at a more reasonable price point helps too but I doubt a lot of people can afford a 4k monitor/screen as well as 3 or 4 top of the line GPU's to run in SLI/CFX.

#16 Edited by RossRichard (2336 posts) -

@clyde46 said:

I don't think the 290X will get any better performance wise with AIB coolers. It comes pretty much running at max. On topic, I've had my credit limit raised on my card!

Not necessarily better performance, but better thermals. Which is one of the negatives the TC was saying.

#17 Edited by _Matt_ (8866 posts) -

@_Matt_ said:

sigh.

And now my GTX 780s look like rubbish. Cheers Nvidia :P

That always happens though. You buy top of the line and soon after a slightly better thing comes along. Just like buying a phone

Aye. Not too worried really. I love these cards, and should last me an age :)

#18 Posted by clyde46 (44922 posts) -

@clyde46 said:

I don't think the 290X will get any better performance wise with AIB coolers. It comes pretty much running at max. On topic, I've had my credit limit raised on my card!

Not necessarily better performance, but better thermals. Which is one of the negatives the TC was saying.

Yea, I know all about the heat and noise of that thing. Its like AMD has strapped a leaf blower on the side of it.

#19 Posted by Daious (1120 posts) -

@DirkXXVI said:

4k is just so impractical at this time. If you have a ton of disposable income lying around then more power to you, especially since PC gaming is one of the few forms of media to really employ 4k at this point. Either way it's a little closer now with the R9-290x offering Titan like performance so you can throw 3 or or 4 of those in crossfire for half the cost. And the 780ti at a more reasonable price point helps too but I doubt a lot of people can afford a 4k monitor/screen as well as 3 or 4 top of the line GPU's to run in SLI/CFX.

Yeah by the time 4k resolution becomes a standard, the next gen 20nm will blow away these cards.

#20 Edited by jhonMalcovich (4517 posts) -
#21 Edited by chikenfriedrice (9871 posts) -

Wish I could afford that damn thing....I will have to stick with my 660ti for now

#22 Edited by clyde46 (44922 posts) -
#23 Posted by freedomfreak (39156 posts) -

Tomb Raider (Ultra @ 3840x2160)

#24 Posted by wis3boi (31112 posts) -

Not worth $700, IMO

#25 Edited by seanmcloughlin (38214 posts) -
#26 Edited by clyde46 (44922 posts) -
#27 Edited by Aparthide (235 posts) -
#28 Edited by jhonMalcovich (4517 posts) -

@seanmcloughlin said:

@jhonMalcovich said:

Tom´s Hardware Review is up, too

It results GTX780 Ti beats 290x in BF4 by a good margin

Almost as strong as a 690 is pretty impressive

Also why is the (press) version of the 290x stonger than retail? Was it overclocked?

It´s refered to as the press-sampled R9 290X. Probably AMD tried to cheat here providing reviewers with better versions XD

#29 Posted by seanmcloughlin (38214 posts) -

@jhonMalcovich said:

Tom´s Hardware Review is up, too

It results GTX780 Ti beats 290x in BF4 by a good margin

And this is why vram is overated.

VRAM is only useful at higher resolutions. If you played the game at 4k I'd imagine the numbers would be far more in the 780Ti's favour

#30 Edited by clyde46 (44922 posts) -

@Aparthide said:

@jhonMalcovich said:

Tom´s Hardware Review is up, too

It results GTX780 Ti beats 290x in BF4 by a good margin

And this is why vram is overated.

VRAM is only useful at higher resolutions. If you played the game at 4k I'd imagine the numbers would be far more in the 780Ti's favour

Actually, the 290X is king at 4K. That 4GB of VRAM along with the 512bit bus really helps.

#31 Edited by jhonMalcovich (4517 posts) -

@RossRichard said:

@jhonMalcovich said:

@RossRichard said:

Radeon 290x will be a lot better heat-wise when vendors start adding third-party heatsinks to the equation. Remember the Geforce 480?

Yep. But it won´t be 550$ then. It will be more expensive.

Third-party heatsinks usually add $10-$20 to the cost of the card. But I would expect Radeon 290x to actually get a little cheaper now, because of the 780ti announcement.

I don´t think some 20$ heat sinks will fix 90 C temperature issues of x290. Look more for Liquid Sinking models.

#32 Edited by jhonMalcovich (4517 posts) -

@Aparthide: Yep. GDDR5 hype is just a fraud. You can´t chew more than you can bite.

#33 Posted by clyde46 (44922 posts) -

@RossRichard said:

@jhonMalcovich said:

@RossRichard said:

Radeon 290x will be a lot better heat-wise when vendors start adding third-party heatsinks to the equation. Remember the Geforce 480?

Yep. But it won´t be 550$ then. It will be more expensive.

Third-party heatsinks usually add $10-$20 to the cost of the card. But I would expect Radeon 290x to actually get a little cheaper now, because of the 780ti announcement.

I don´t think some 20$ heat sinks will fix 90 C temperature issues of x290. Look more for Liquid Sinking models.

I think they will. Hell, aftermarket coolers helped on the 4890 and look at how hot that card got.

#34 Posted by RossRichard (2336 posts) -

@RossRichard said:

@jhonMalcovich said:

@RossRichard said:

Radeon 290x will be a lot better heat-wise when vendors start adding third-party heatsinks to the equation. Remember the Geforce 480?

Yep. But it won´t be 550$ then. It will be more expensive.

Third-party heatsinks usually add $10-$20 to the cost of the card. But I would expect Radeon 290x to actually get a little cheaper now, because of the 780ti announcement.

I don´t think some 20$ heat sinks will fix 90 C temperature issues of x290. Look more for Liquid Sinking models.

Well I will mention Geforce GTX 480 cause it had a lot of the same issues. The reference cards were hitting 100 C and had very loud fans. Once some of the manufacturers started putting their coolers on, they had them down to 80-90 C with lower dB. Not a great change, but it did help. Same thing will happen with the 290x.

#35 Posted by Daious (1120 posts) -

@jhonMalcovich said:

Tom´s Hardware Review is up, too

It results GTX780 Ti beats 290x in BF4 by a good margin

Almost as strong as a 690 is pretty impressive

Also why is the (press) version of the 290x stonger than retail? Was it overclocked?

There is some controversy that AMD cherry picked cards that they sent to reviewers.

#36 Posted by Aparthide (235 posts) -

@Aparthide said:

@jhonMalcovich said:

Tom´s Hardware Review is up, too

It results GTX780 Ti beats 290x in BF4 by a good margin

And this is why vram is overated.

VRAM is only useful at higher resolutions. If you played the game at 4k I'd imagine the numbers would be far more in the 780Ti's favour

Huh? The results for 4k are in the graph. And the 780ti which has only 3gb still beats a Titan. The results are very close though because none of these cards are strong enough to handle it. Imo the only time 2-3gb+ Vram should be a concern is when you go sli.

#37 Posted by seanmcloughlin (38214 posts) -

@seanmcloughlin said:

@Aparthide said:

@jhonMalcovich said:

Tom´s Hardware Review is up, too

It results GTX780 Ti beats 290x in BF4 by a good margin

And this is why vram is overated.

VRAM is only useful at higher resolutions. If you played the game at 4k I'd imagine the numbers would be far more in the 780Ti's favour

Huh? The results for 4k are in the graph. And the 780ti which has only 3gb still beats a Titan. The results are very close though because none of these cards are strong enough to handle it. Imo the only time 2-3gb+ Vram should be a concern is when you go sli.

My mistake :P

#38 Posted by Gaming-Planet (13997 posts) -

$700? Lol, I'll pass.

#39 Posted by ReadingRainbow4 (13420 posts) -

$700? Lol, I'll pass.

Also 30fps at 4k, looks like we're a ways off. I'm not giving up playability for that.

#40 Posted by ShepardCommandr (2408 posts) -

$700 no thanks.

The max i am willing to pay for a gpu is 400 to 500.Besides my 680 is faster than 770.

#41 Posted by Kinthalis (5305 posts) -

It's nto appealign at this current price point, but going SLi with two of these babies in 3 years? Absolutley doable. Or better yet, justpick up a 20nm part by then along with a 4K monitor for true next gen gaming ;)

#42 Posted by airshocker (29033 posts) -

Damn that's a sexy video card. -Starts budgeting-

#43 Posted by lostrib (34424 posts) -

I'll hold out for the next die shrink. But who would have thought that only having 2GB VRAM would start to become an issue

#44 Posted by ReadingRainbow4 (13420 posts) -

290x seems like it's the way to go.

#45 Posted by lostrib (34424 posts) -

290x seems like it's the way to go.

until it burns down your house

#46 Posted by clyde46 (44922 posts) -

290x seems like it's the way to go.

What makes you say that? The Ti creams it in all but some 4K benchmarks.

#47 Edited by DirkXXVI (497 posts) -

@daious: Ironically enough I've been reading articles that state that 4k is basically the next 720p and that 8k is suppose to be the true successor to 1080p. It's like we're barely maxing out top tier games at 60fps with single GPU's at 1080p and now we're talking about adding 8x the amount of pixels. Mother of God.

#48 Posted by ReadingRainbow4 (13420 posts) -

@clyde46 said:

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

290x seems like it's the way to go.

What makes you say that? The Ti creams it in all but some 4K benchmarks.

Price/performance.

I'm speaking for myself obviously.

#49 Posted by ReadingRainbow4 (13420 posts) -

@DirkXXVI said:

@daious: Ironically enough I've been reading articles that state that 4k is basically the next 720p and that 8k is suppose to be the true successor to 1080p. It's like we're barely maxing out top tier games at 60fps with single GPU's at 1080p and now we're talking about adding 8x the amount of pixels. Mother of God.

Agreed, they need to do better. the techs not moving along as fast as I would have hoped.

#50 Posted by Snugenz (11816 posts) -

@RossRichard said:

@jhonMalcovich said:

@RossRichard said:

Radeon 290x will be a lot better heat-wise when vendors start adding third-party heatsinks to the equation. Remember the Geforce 480?

Yep. But it won´t be 550$ then. It will be more expensive.

Third-party heatsinks usually add $10-$20 to the cost of the card. But I would expect Radeon 290x to actually get a little cheaper now, because of the 780ti announcement.

I don´t think some 20$ heat sinks will fix 90 C temperature issues of x290. Look more for Liquid Sinking models.

Ron posted a link yesterday were they took an cooler from an non-reference 280x and stuck it on a 290x and were getting max temps of around 78 degrees, which is obviously much better than the normal 95. So liquid cooling isn't a must.

As for the 780ti, great card but for 200 more you could get 2 780's, so...