GT5 sales are madness! O_o

[QUOTE="Drakshark2424"][QUOTE="nameless12345"]

These are PS2-quality cars to you?

K man...

More content is always welcome to me and I'm yet to see a racing sim with a actually good damage model.

Z-Fatalis

Snow racing, Racing in rain, off road racing and night racing (which Forza Horizon finally just got and it happens to be in a sh!tty arcade racer)

Better physics, more realistic driving, more modes, more cars, mor tracks

What more is there to be had?

[QUOTE="Drakshark2424"][QUOTE="nameless12345"]

These are PS2-quality cars to you?

K man...

More content is always welcome to me and I'm yet to see a racing sim with a actually good damage model.

jessejay420

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="Z-Fatalis"]

Oh man, Lems are raging left, right and centre :lol:

Z-Fatalis

Actually, you're the one raging, but you're hiding it through wanna-be trolling.

You're clearly mad that GT has been such a disaster this gen.

Read the OP bro, far from a disaster, Forza 4 is what I'd call a disaster :cool:

[QUOTE="Z-Fatalis"]

[QUOTE="Drakshark2424"] The only thing GT5 has agaist Forza is the lighting system. PD absolutely NAILED it in that department. but what many don't know is that when it comes to consistency and modeling, Turn 10 has the edge. Believe it or not, Forza's models are more detailed than GT5's photo travel (higher LOD models) mode.Nanomage

Snow racing, Racing in rain, off road racing and night racing (which Forza Horizon finally just got and it happens to be in a sh!tty arcade racer)

Better physics, more realistic driving, more modes, more cars, mor tracks

What more is there to be had?

[QUOTE="Z-Fatalis"]

[QUOTE="Drakshark2424"] The only thing GT5 has agaist Forza is the lighting system. PD absolutely NAILED it in that department. but what many don't know is that when it comes to consistency and modeling, Turn 10 has the edge. Believe it or not, Forza's models are more detailed than GT5's photo travel (higher LOD models) mode.Nanomage

Snow racing, Racing in rain, off road racing and night racing (which Forza Horizon finally just got and it happens to be in a sh!tty arcade racer)

Better physics, more realistic driving, more modes, more cars, mor tracks

What more is there to be had?

But Forza doesnt even do any of them, let alone master them.

The only problems with GT5 were some cars had inconsistant visuals, which a lot of have been fixed through the monstrous amount of updates it gets.

Oh and a "bad menu" :lol: people need to accept it, it's not the same game it was on release and the current sales show that

[QUOTE="Nanomage"][QUOTE="Z-Fatalis"]

Snow racing, Racing in rain, off road racing and night racing (which Forza Horizon finally just got and it happens to be in a sh!tty arcade racer)

Better physics, more realistic driving, more modes, more cars, mor tracks

What more is there to be had?

Z-Fatalis

But Forza doesnt even do any of them, let alone master them.

The only problems with GT5 were some cars had inconsistant visuals, which a lot of have been fixed through the monstrous amount of updates it gets.

Oh and a "bad menu" :lol: people need to accept it, it's not the same game it was on release and the current sales show that

Forza is such a quality series that i still play forza 1 and 2 to this day :) Quality >>>>>>> Sales :) im lucky gamer to have every forza game :)jessejay420

Series wise GT is the highest rated racing series of all time.

Excluding the yearly rehash that is NFS, It is the highest selling racing series of all time.

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]Wiifit sold way more. Imagine how good that game must be Anyway, you wouldn't like it.campzor

I don't really care what all Forza does. GT5 still has the superior driving mechanics and that matters. Don't care about story mode or whatever Forza is doing. Jack of all Trades but master of none? GTFO. It's NASCAR mode is the better than the official NASCAR game. What, you mad cause the Talledega track didn't make it? And you guys are really overating the PS2 cars. I bet if I showed you a picture of a race in motion you couldn't even pick out which one was standard or premium. chaotzu

Night racing, Snow racing even Racing in the rain... Forza doesn't even have the basics.

GT is so much more realistic, it has better handling, better physics, more tracks, more cars, more modes, it has the best NASCAR racing period, it has Karting.

People who can say Forza's better are deffinitely not serious.

[QUOTE="Z-Fatalis"]

[QUOTE="Drakshark2424"] The only thing GT5 has agaist Forza is the lighting system. PD absolutely NAILED it in that department. but what many don't know is that when it comes to consistency and modeling, Turn 10 has the edge. Believe it or not, Forza's models are more detailed than GT5's photo travel (higher LOD models) mode.Nanomage

Snow racing, Racing in rain, off road racing and night racing (which Forza Horizon finally just got and it happens to be in a sh!tty arcade racer)

Better physics, more realistic driving, more modes, more cars, mor tracks

What more is there to be had?

[QUOTE="Nanomage"][QUOTE="Z-Fatalis"]

Snow racing, Racing in rain, off road racing and night racing (which Forza Horizon finally just got and it happens to be in a sh!tty arcade racer)

Better physics, more realistic driving, more modes, more cars, mor tracks

What more is there to be had?

Drakshark2424

Thats PGR4 what are you doing?.. lol

[QUOTE="Nanomage"][QUOTE="Z-Fatalis"]

Snow racing, Racing in rain, off road racing and night racing (which Forza Horizon finally just got and it happens to be in a sh!tty arcade racer)

Better physics, more realistic driving, more modes, more cars, mor tracks

What more is there to be had?

Z-Fatalis

But Forza doesnt even do any of them, let alone master them.

The only problems with GT5 were some cars had inconsistant visuals, which a lot of have been fixed through the monstrous amount of updates it gets.

Oh and a "bad menu" :lol: people need to accept it, it's not the same game it was on release and the current sales show that

[QUOTE="jessejay420"]Forza is such a quality series that i still play forza 1 and 2 to this day :) Quality >>>>>>> Sales :) im lucky gamer to have every forza game :)Z-Fatalis

Series wise GT is the highest rated racing series of all time.

Excluding the yearly rehash that is NFS, It is the highest selling racing series of all time.

[QUOTE="Drakshark2424"][QUOTE="Nanomage"] Yeah,it´s like a jack of all trades and master of none,hence the disapointing reception.Z-Fatalis

Thats PGR4 what are you doing?.. lol

[QUOTE="Drakshark2424"][QUOTE="Nanomage"] Yeah,it´s like a jack of all trades and master of none,hence the disapointing reception.Z-Fatalis

Thats PGR4 what are you doing?.. lol

[QUOTE="Z-Fatalis"]

[QUOTE="Drakshark2424"] As I mentioned in another thread, racing in the rain happens on select tracks. THIS is how you do rain. Like I said before, Quality > Quantity. More cars does NOT make it better. You have 1000 cars, but more than half of them are from almost a decade ago. Turn 10 has probably the most diverse car list ths gen. despite only having 650 in total. 5 years on development time and more than 80% of the cars that should belong in a PS2 game in THE REAL DRIVING SIMULATOR?? How could that be...? By the way don't get me started on physics when you can't even adjust camber/tire pressure settings in GT5. Tracks: Where's Road America? Road Atlanta? Nurburgring GP? Sebring International Raceway? Oh and show me pit stop animations on Suzuka while you're at it too. :)Drakshark2424

Thats PGR4 what are you doing?.. lol

[QUOTE="Z-Fatalis"]

[QUOTE="jessejay420"]Forza is such a quality series that i still play forza 1 and 2 to this day :) Quality >>>>>>> Sales :) im lucky gamer to have every forza game :)jessejay420

Series wise GT is the highest rated racing series of all time.

Excluding the yearly rehash that is NFS, It is the highest selling racing series of all time.

So first you wanna talk about the whole series, and now you wanna use this gen only cause it suits your argument? lol

[QUOTE="Z-Fatalis"]

[QUOTE="Drakshark2424"] As I mentioned in another thread, racing in the rain happens on select tracks. THIS is how you do rain. Like I said before, Quality > Quantity. More cars does NOT make it better. You have 1000 cars, but more than half of them are from almost a decade ago. Turn 10 has probably the most diverse car list ths gen. despite only having 650 in total. 5 years on development time and more than 80% of the cars that should belong in a PS2 game in THE REAL DRIVING SIMULATOR?? How could that be...? By the way don't get me started on physics when you can't even adjust camber/tire pressure settings in GT5. Tracks: Where's Road America? Road Atlanta? Nurburgring GP? Sebring International Raceway? Oh and show me pit stop animations on Suzuka while you're at it too. :)Drakshark2424

Thats PGR4 what are you doing?.. lol

So you're using another game because you can't use Forza to pwn GT5? good job bro I now see how pointless Forza really is.

And no bro this is how you do Wet racing

When Forza gets Wet racing, Snow racing, night racing, better handling better physics more cars and more tracks then come and argue with me.

[QUOTE="jessejay420"][QUOTE="Z-Fatalis"]

Series wise GT is the highest rated racing series of all time.

Excluding the yearly rehash that is NFS, It is the highest selling racing series of all time.

Z-Fatalis

So first you wanna talk about the whole series, and now you wanna use this gen only cause it suits your argument? lol

[QUOTE="jessejay420"][QUOTE="Z-Fatalis"]

Series wise GT is the highest rated racing series of all time.

Excluding the yearly rehash that is NFS, It is the highest selling racing series of all time.

Z-Fatalis

So first you wanna talk about the whole series, and now you wanna use this gen only cause it suits your argument? lol

This is astonishing. I like the games made by Sony but i hate the GT series. Forza is anyday better. The only reason GT sells so much is because of brand recogniton. It was one of the first racing sims after all.mstrchf12

[QUOTE="Z-Fatalis"]

[QUOTE="jessejay420"] Sorry but Forza is higher quality than GT. GR : GT5 (84) - Forza4 (90) Forza3 (92) Forza2 (89) GS : GT5 (8.0) - Forza4 (8.5) Forza3 (9.5) Forza2 (9.2) MC : GT5 (84) - Forza4 (91) Forza3 (92) Forza2 (90) looks like Forza mopped the floor with GT this gen :) maybe next gen PolyPHONY can try again :)Drakshark2424

So first you wanna talk about the whole series, and now you wanna use this gen only cause it suits your argument? lol

Yawn at "sim" racers.

GT5 the game so great Sony used PGR to market it....

[QUOTE="Z-Fatalis"]

[QUOTE="jessejay420"] Sorry but Forza is higher quality than GT. GR : GT5 (84) - Forza4 (90) Forza3 (92) Forza2 (89) GS : GT5 (8.0) - Forza4 (8.5) Forza3 (9.5) Forza2 (9.2) MC : GT5 (84) - Forza4 (91) Forza3 (92) Forza2 (90) looks like Forza mopped the floor with GT this gen :) maybe next gen PolyPHONY can try again :)Drakshark2424

So first you wanna talk about the whole series, and now you wanna use this gen only cause it suits your argument? lol

Are you choosing to be ignorent on purpose? or are you just illiterate? here take another look.

"Series wise GT is the highest rated racing series of all time.

Excluding the yearly rehash that is NFS, It is the highest selling racing series of all time."

See that first sentance? does it say anything about sales? no it doesn't, get your head out of your *** cause all your posts seem to be nonsense.

If you want to keep arguing your useless case any further then look on page 11, it pretty much owns all your worthless arguments.

Good f*cking day.

GT5 the game so great Sony used PGR to market it....

Bruce_Benzing

[QUOTE="Drakshark2424"][QUOTE="Z-Fatalis"]

Thats PGR4 what are you doing?.. lol

Z-Fatalis

So you're using another game because you can't use Forza to pwn GT5? good job bro I now see how pointless Forza really is.

And no bro this is how you do Wet racing

When Forza gets Wet racing, Snow racing, night racing, better handling better physics more cars and more tracks then come and argue with me.

[QUOTE="Drakshark2424"][QUOTE="Z-Fatalis"]

So first you wanna talk about the whole series, and now you wanna use this gen only cause it suits your argument? lol

Z-Fatalis

Are you choosing to be ignorent on purpose? or are you just illiterate? here take another look.

"Series wise GT is the highest rated racing series of all time.

Excluding the yearly rehash that is NFS, It is the highest selling racing series of all time."

See that first sentance? does it say anything about sales? no it doesn't, get your head out of your *** cause all your posts seem to be nonsense.

If you want to keep arguing your useless case any further then look on page 11, it pretty much owns all your worthless arguments.

Good f*cking day.

[QUOTE="Nanomage"][QUOTE="Z-Fatalis"]

Snow racing, Racing in rain, off road racing and night racing (which Forza Horizon finally just got and it happens to be in a sh!tty arcade racer)

Better physics, more realistic driving, more modes, more cars, mor tracks

What more is there to be had?

Drakshark2424

You can adjust camber.

Both Nurb GP and Sebring are in GT.

Forza doesn't even have pit stop animations.

Forza still doesn't have Spa = FAIL

[QUOTE="Z-Fatalis"]

[QUOTE="Drakshark2424"] I realize that's PGR4. It just goes to show you what a game that came out almost 5 years ago could still manage to do. THATS how rain have been done on Gt5, not this half assed mess we got...Drakshark2424

So you're using another game because you can't use Forza to pwn GT5? good job bro I now see how pointless Forza really is.

And no bro this is how you do Wet racing

When Forza gets Wet racing, Snow racing, night racing, better handling better physics more cars and more tracks then come and argue with me.

[QUOTE="Drakshark2424"][QUOTE="Nanomage"] Yeah,it´s like a jack of all trades and master of none,hence the disapointing reception.Obviously_Right

You can adjust camber.

Both Nurb GP and Sebring are in GT.

Forza doesn't even have pit stop animations.

Forza still doesn't have Spa = FAIL

GT5 has a large and loyal fanbase.

It's been this way for years. I don't know why this should come as a surprise to anyone.

[QUOTE="Drakshark2424"][QUOTE="Nanomage"] Yeah,it´s like a jack of all trades and master of none,hence the disapointing reception.Obviously_Right

You can adjust camber.

Both Nurb GP and Sebring are in GT.

Forza doesn't even have pit stop animations.

Forza still doesn't have Spa = FAIL

[QUOTE="Drakshark2424"][QUOTE="Nanomage"] Yeah,it´s like a jack of all trades and master of none,hence the disapointing reception.Obviously_Right

You can adjust camber.

Both Nurb GP and Sebring are in GT.

Forza doesn't even have pit stop animations.

Forza still doesn't have Spa = FAIL

wow seriously? lol

No night racing, no wet races, no snow races, no pitstop animations, less cars, less tracks, worse handeling, worse physics..

Wtf does Forza actually have lol? :lol:

GT5 has a large and loyal fanbase.

It's been this way for years. I don't know why this should come as a surprise to anyone.

The_Game21x

You can adjust camber.

Both Nurb GP and Sebring are in GT.

Forza doesn't even have pit stop animations.

Forza still doesn't have Spa = FAIL

Obviously_Right

This is the difference between Turn 10 and PD; Turn 10 at least try to keep a vaguely high and consistent standard and don't just add features for the sake of being able to list more features, because that tends to lead to disappointment and dragging the overall polish of the game down.

But anyway in terms of sales GT is a long running and previously highly critically acclaimed franchise which had little competition when it started on the PS1, its obvious it would generate such a large fanbase.

You can adjust camber.

Both Nurb GP and Sebring are in GT.

Forza doesn't even have pit stop animations.

Forza still doesn't have Spa = FAIL

Obviously_Right

Yes, you can but GT5's tuning depth is still leagues behind Forza's.

Sebring is not in GT.

I'm sorry, I wasn't aware pit stop animations were a big deal in a racing game.

Spa is one track. Granted, it's an excellent track but it's still one track.

[QUOTE="Obviously_Right"]

[QUOTE="Drakshark2424"] As I mentioned in another thread, racing in the rain happens on select tracks. THIS is how you do rain. Like I said before, Quality > Quantity. More cars does NOT make it better. You have 1000 cars, but more than half of them are from almost a decade ago. Turn 10 has probably the most diverse car list ths gen. despite only having 650 in total. 5 years on development time and more than 80% of the cars that should belong in a PS2 game in THE REAL DRIVING SIMULATOR?? How could that be...? By the way don't get me started on physics when you can't even adjust camber/tire pressure settings in GT5. Tracks: Where's Road America? Road Atlanta? Nurburgring GP? Sebring International Raceway? Oh and show me pit stop animations on Suzuka while you're at it too. :)Z-Fatalis

You can adjust camber.

Both Nurb GP and Sebring are in GT.

Forza doesn't even have pit stop animations.

Forza still doesn't have Spa = FAIL

wow seriously? lol

No night racing, no wet races, no snow races, no pitstop animations, less cars, less tracks, worse handeling, worse physics..

Wtf does Forza actually have lol? :lol:

Uh...no. Forza's physics and handling are both better than GT5.

[QUOTE="Obviously_Right"]

[QUOTE="Drakshark2424"] As I mentioned in another thread, racing in the rain happens on select tracks. THIS is how you do rain. Like I said before, Quality > Quantity. More cars does NOT make it better. You have 1000 cars, but more than half of them are from almost a decade ago. Turn 10 has probably the most diverse car list ths gen. despite only having 650 in total. 5 years on development time and more than 80% of the cars that should belong in a PS2 game in THE REAL DRIVING SIMULATOR?? How could that be...? By the way don't get me started on physics when you can't even adjust camber/tire pressure settings in GT5. Tracks: Where's Road America? Road Atlanta? Nurburgring GP? Sebring International Raceway? Oh and show me pit stop animations on Suzuka while you're at it too. :)Z-Fatalis

You can adjust camber.

Both Nurb GP and Sebring are in GT.

Forza doesn't even have pit stop animations.

Forza still doesn't have Spa = FAIL

wow seriously? lol

No night racing, no wet races, no snow races, no pitstop animations, less cars, less tracks, worse handeling, worse physics..

Wtf does Forza actually have lol? :lol:

I don't understand this idea that PS3 exclusives (or multiplats) don't sell. I don't see where this is coming from, based off of this source I found there is little difference in the sales between exclusives, multiplats, and just the system it's self. Only 360 exclusives that do better than PS3 exclusives are Halo and Gears (the latter of which is tied with Uncharted and beaten by God of War).

You can see for yourself here:

Best Selling Games for Xbox 360

Best Selling Games forPlayStation 3

As you can see, PS3 games do just fine. They do well enough to warrent a sequel. Not that I really care mind you, but it's a total myth that no one buys games on PS3 or that they all sell terribly.

Also funny is that the best selling Xbox game isn't even Halo, not even COD. It's Kinect Adventures lol. No wonder MS is all about Kinect, that's what the 360 audience is demanding.

just like Americans worship Halo the Europeans do the same with Gran Turismo. Of-course the sales aren't as huge because America is the biggest video game market in the world.

Halo Reach sold 9 million last year. Is the game really that good?

just like Americans worship Halo the Europeans do the same with Gran Turismo. Of-course the sales aren't as huge because America is the biggest video game market in the world.

Gue1