Grand Theft Auto 4 Xbox 360 vs Xbox One Backwards Compatibility Frame Rate Test

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#1  Edited By loe12k
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Running better on xbox one. No need for a PS4 pro boost!

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#2 freedomfreak
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I absolutely dislike the fact that this game runs like horseshit on my computer. And it might push me to redownload this version, especially if it runs better.

**** you, Rockstar.

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#3  Edited By aigis
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finally, I'm sure everyone has been dying to know if the 9 year old game plays better on the old console or the new console

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#4 kvally
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Thank you Microsoft!

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Still drops to 20 fps at times. Nothing to write home about.

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Barely any difference, not exactly the greatest GTA anyway.

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#8 DaVillain  Moderator
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Hey Niko, you want to go Bowling?

Yeah it's somewhat nice of a boost but not worth replaying GTA4 and I couldn't give two shits about Niko's modern life as well.

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#9 CrashNBurn281
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Why are we even talking about performance for a title this old? Xbone, playing last gen games better than 360.

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#10  Edited By ItWasMe-DIO
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@crashnburn281 said:

Why are we even talking about performance for a title this old? Xbone, playing last gen games better than 360.

It's not like Xbone owners have much to talk about these days.

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#11 Alucard_Prime
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Interesting, a little surprised by this considering how massive and old the game is. I doubt I will replay it, but its one of my favorite games from last Gen. Seems like ages ago I played this

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@goldenelementxl said:

Nice cherry pick. Anytime you can boost FPS through emulation that is a win in my book. This is such a nice feature that Microsoft gives everyone for FREE which is good for GAMERS! Who cares how old a game is? A game is a game if you enjoy it and if you already have it why not enjoy a free boost.

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@itwasme-dio said:
@crashnburn281 said:

Why are we even talking about performance for a title this old? Xbone, playing last gen games better than 360.

It's not like Xbone owners have much to talk about these days.

Xbox owners can talk about this right???

What do you think?

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#14 loe12k
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@Xabiss said:
@goldenelementxl said:

Nice cherry pick. Anytime you can boost FPS through emulation that is a win in my book. This is such a nice feature that Microsoft gives everyone for FREE which is good for GAMERS! Who cares how old a game is? A game is a game if you enjoy it and if you already have it why not enjoy a free boost.

Sony charges people for PS2 games lol. You're right the smart people know MS is looking after their gamers this gen.

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@BigShotSmoov007 said:
@itwasme-dio said:

It's not like Xbone owners have much to talk about these days.

Xbox owners can talk about this right???

What do you think?

Thanks for confirming what I said.

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Looks like the Sony fans are mad as usual. No games to play, so they come in to a BC thread to feel better about themselves and their ClosedStation 4.

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#17  Edited By kvally
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@BigShotSmoov007 said:
@itwasme-dio said:
@crashnburn281 said:

Why are we even talking about performance for a title this old? Xbone, playing last gen games better than 360.

It's not like Xbone owners have much to talk about these days.

Xbox owners can talk about this right???

What do you think?

I think that I don't see the xbox app pinned to your taskbar. For shame. :) Now don't you go being all sly and stuff and try to put that game in your Xbox. You know that the game will only work and fit in your PS4 right? Disregard the green borders, that is just Sony marketing.

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Barely any difference, not exactly the greatest GTA anyway.

I started playing it again yesterday, and I forgot how boring it is... I played about a third of it last gen, but couldn't finish it. Don't know if I can finish it now either :(

Man I wish they made San Andreas BC instead :(

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@hrt_rulz01 said:
@Random_Matt said:

Barely any difference, not exactly the greatest GTA anyway.

I started playing it again yesterday, and I forgot how boring it is... I played about a third of it last gen, but couldn't finish it. Don't know if I can finish it now either :(

Man I wish they made San Andreas BC instead :(

Damn, thought it was.

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#20 loe12k
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@kvally said:

Looks like the Sony fans are mad as usual. No games to play, so they come in to a BC thread to feel better about themselves and their ClosedStation 4.

Most of them have sold their PS3 to pay for the PS4 and are unhappy Sony has no BC. They still holding out hope Sony will have with the PS5. Doubt it. PS3 games are sitting on shelves collecting dust or sold.

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@soulitane said:

Still drops to 20 fps at times. Nothing to write home about.

Boost mode should be better on Xbox Scorpio.

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#22 soulitane
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@ronvalencia said:
@soulitane said:

Still drops to 20 fps at times. Nothing to write home about.

Boost mode should be better on Xbox Scorpio.

"Should".

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@itwasme-dio said:
@BigShotSmoov007 said:
@itwasme-dio said:

It's not like Xbone owners have much to talk about these days.

Xbox owners can talk about this right???

What do you think?

Thanks for confirming what I said.

You said nothing so I comfirmed nothing.

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#24 deactivated-58abb194ab6fb
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@kvally said:
@BigShotSmoov007 said:
@itwasme-dio said:
@crashnburn281 said:

Why are we even talking about performance for a title this old? Xbone, playing last gen games better than 360.

It's not like Xbone owners have much to talk about these days.

Xbox owners can talk about this right???

What do you think?

I think that I don't see the xbox app pinned to your taskbar. For shame. :) Now don't you go being all sly and stuff and try to put that game in your Xbox. You know that the game will only work and fit in your PS4 right? Disregard the green borders, that is just Sony marketing.

Yeah it's a PlayStation game dress in a xbox case cause you know only PlayStation get the hot new games.

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#26 ronvalencia
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@soulitane said:
@ronvalencia said:
@soulitane said:

Still drops to 20 fps at times. Nothing to write home about.

Boost mode should be better on Xbox Scorpio.

"Should".

1. Scorpio APU's 362 mm^2 - Polaris 10's 232 mm^2 = 130 mm^2 chip area size available for the CPU side.

2. Scorpio APU's 362 mm^2 - half of Vega 10 with 262 mm^2 = 100 mm^2 chip area size available for the CPU side.

There's no large 32 MB ESRAM to waste the reminding chip area budget. Vega has Maxwell style micro-tile cache rendering approach with needs tiny extra cache.

232 mm^2already includes8 32 bit GDDR5 memory controllers.

With 100 to 130 mm^2 available for the CPU+NB+MCHs, the CPU solution is NOT Jaguar based.

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#27 soulitane
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@ronvalencia said:
@soulitane said:
@ronvalencia said:
@soulitane said:

Still drops to 20 fps at times. Nothing to write home about.

Boost mode should be better on Xbox Scorpio.

"Should".

1. Scorpio APU's 362 mm^2 - Polaris 10's 232 mm^2 = 130 mm^2 chip area size available for the CPU side.

2. Scorpio APU's 362 mm^2 - half of Vega 10 with 262 mm^2 = 100 mm^2 chip area size available for the CPU side.

There's no large 32 MB ESRAM to waste the reminding chip area budget. Vega has Maxwell style micro-tile cache rendering approach with needs tiny extra cache.

232 mm^2already includes8 32 bit GDDR5 memory controllers.

With 100 to 130 mm^2 available for the CPU+NB+MCHs, the CPU solution is NOT Jaguar based.

"Should".

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@Random_Matt said:
@hrt_rulz01 said:
@Random_Matt said:

Barely any difference, not exactly the greatest GTA anyway.

I started playing it again yesterday, and I forgot how boring it is... I played about a third of it last gen, but couldn't finish it. Don't know if I can finish it now either :(

Man I wish they made San Andreas BC instead :(

Damn, thought it was.

Nah :(

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#29 FLOPPAGE_50
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I love how cows bash BC, but if the PS5 has it, it shall be priased

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#30 Zero_epyon
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What does boost mode have to do with backwards compatibility?

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#31  Edited By Dakur
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@itwasme-dio said:
@BigShotSmoov007 said:
@itwasme-dio said:

It's not like Xbone owners have much to talk about these days.

Xbox owners can talk about this right???

What do you think?

Thanks for confirming what I said.

REKT!

And who buys the shittiest version of a game to play it? really?

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#32 lamprey263
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awesome news, will play when my work week is over

keep up the good work Rockstar, we got Red Dead Redemption, Bully Scholarship Edition, and GTA IV, I hope they have either Max Payne 3 or LA Noire among their next BC releases

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#33  Edited By DrRollinstein
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I'm glad they've continued on with BC. Sure beats the Ps4's version of it, which is fairly depressing.

And any time the games happen to run better on the Xbox one is just a bonus.

Now i just need some more of the slightly obscure games to make it on there. Aka Dragons Dogma pls.

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#34  Edited By General_Solo76
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I watched the video from Digital Foundry, and he said he still prefers playing on the 360......so I guess it's not ideal unless they patch it in the future

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#35 deactivated-58abb194ab6fb
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@dakur:

Nothing is more shittier than your opinions.

REKT.

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@BigShotSmoov007 said:
@itwasme-dio said:
@crashnburn281 said:

Why are we even talking about performance for a title this old? Xbone, playing last gen games better than 360.

It's not like Xbone owners have much to talk about these days.

Xbox owners can talk about this right???

What do you think?

You know better than that. Those don't count for some reason. I know they go in the console, we play them, they win most GOTY awards but this place was made for the babies that will claim their choice is the best.

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@soulitane said:
@ronvalencia said:

1. Scorpio APU's 362 mm^2 - Polaris 10's 232 mm^2 = 130 mm^2 chip area size available for the CPU side.

2. Scorpio APU's 362 mm^2 - half of Vega 10 with 262 mm^2 = 100 mm^2 chip area size available for the CPU side.

There's no large 32 MB ESRAM to waste the reminding chip area budget. Vega has Maxwell style micro-tile cache rendering approach with needs tiny extra cache.

232 mm^2already includes8 32 bit GDDR5 memory controllers.

With 100 to 130 mm^2 available for the CPU+NB+MCHs, the CPU solution is NOT Jaguar based.

"Should".

Fucking lol.

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#38 deactivated-5c0b07b32bf03
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Aaaaand this is the closest thing to an exclusive that lems get these days.

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#39  Edited By ronvalencia
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@soulitane said:
@ronvalencia said:
@soulitane said:
@ronvalencia said:

Boost mode should be better on Xbox Scorpio.

"Should".

1. Scorpio APU's 362 mm^2 - Polaris 10's 232 mm^2 = 130 mm^2 chip area size available for the CPU side.

2. Scorpio APU's 362 mm^2 - half of Vega 10 with 262 mm^2 = 100 mm^2 chip area size available for the CPU side.

There's no large 32 MB ESRAM to waste the reminding chip area budget. Vega has Maxwell style micro-tile cache rendering approach with needs tiny extra cache.

232 mm^2already includes8 32 bit GDDR5 memory controllers.

With 100 to 130 mm^2 available for the CPU+NB+MCHs, the CPU solution is NOT Jaguar based.

"Should".

Xbox Scorpio is not yet release in the market place.

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#40  Edited By PopGotcha
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@kvally said:

Looks like the Sony fans are mad as usual. No games to play, so they come in to a BC thread to feel better about themselves and their ClosedStation 4.

Backwards compatibility is a cool feature, but to say Playstation fans don't have any games after what has already been released this year, and in the works for March, is just stupid trolling. You're better than that, Mr manti-core

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#41 pdogg93
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@popgotcha: no he actually isn't better than that. His brain doesn't understand factual data and hard numbers.

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@pdogg93: Ill give him a chance to respond, if he does.

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#43 Pedro
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@popgotcha said:
@kvally said:

Looks like the Sony fans are mad as usual. No games to play, so they come in to a BC thread to feel better about themselves and their ClosedStation 4.

Backwards compatibility is a cool feature, but to say Playstation fans don't have any games after what has already been released this year, and in the works for March, is just stupid trolling. You're better than that, Mr manti-core

The same BS is said about the Xbox One....

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@Pedro: What BS?

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#45 Dakur
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@Pedro: What BS?

There's no BS. People say that the xbone doesn't have exclusives anymore which is a factual statement but lems simply can't accept that fact. They're mentally too weak to cope with it.

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#47 kvally
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@popgotcha: yup I agree with you. As long as the other side keeps trolling their made up BS, we will call them out on it. I am surprised you haven't said the same about them.

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#48 kvally
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@popgotcha: btw I don't need any "chances". Carry on.

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#49  Edited By ronvalencia
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@loe12k said:

Running better on xbox one. No need for a PS4 pro boost!

http://www.valuewalk.com/2017/02/microsoft-project-scorpio-phil-spencer/

Scorpio has it's own boost mode. Xbox One S already has minor boost mode with it's 1.4 TFLOPS GPU.

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@loe12k:

I don't understand what PS4 pro boost mode has to do with Xbox one BC.

What am I missing?