Gears 4 Beta Maps updated and look better..

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#1  Edited By loe12k
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Just saw these videos today. Remember when people said the Gears maps looked awful during the Beta and it would look like that at launch. Well, look at them now a huge improvement, taken aback how different the maps look!

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#2 Pedro
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Looks good to me.

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#3 dynamitecop
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Looks very solid, especially considering the 60 FPS target.

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#4 Heil68
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I honestly didnt think they looked bad to begin with. This will be a Play anywhere title along with Recore for 2016.

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#5  Edited By chikenfriedrice
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They said it will look better and they didn't lie.

And I'm hyped for the PC version after reading this article

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-gears-of-war-4-pc-exclusive-features-revealed

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#6 Junky-trunk
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Looks better than UC4 MP and it's 60fps

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#7 jcrame10
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@junky-trunk: except uncharted 4 is more vibrant and colorful due to it's art style

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#8 silversix_
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Has finally reached Gears 3 visuals. Bravo.

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#9 kvally
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@silversix_ said:

Has finally reached Gears 3 visuals. Bravo.

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#10 deactivated-58abb194ab6fb
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The map design wasn't the problem cause the maps looked good to begin with although it's great they improved it. It was the character design that was bad and bland.

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#11 Alucard_Prime
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I wonder if the horde maps will be the same or specialized for Horde

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@Alucard_Prime said:

I wonder if the horde maps will be the same or specialized for Horde

Doubt it only 10 maps at launch. But they have announced 35 maps will be made for the game. All 35 maps will be free for public matches. 1-2 maps added every month.

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@loe12k: yeah probably I don't think the older games had maps just for horde but I forgot

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#14  Edited By loe12k
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@Alucard_Prime said:

@loe12k: yeah probably I don't think the older games had maps just for horde but I forgot

The maps for Gears 4 so far look big i say they are that size for Horde as well.

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@loe12k: Im pretty sure they're making specific horde maps. At E3 they talked about how they no longer wanted it like a tower defence game where you buy things and set things up and wait. They said they wanted it to be more intense with things making you run and pressuring you and pushing you across the map. It sounded like they were going for more of a call of duty zombies vibe, where it's like it's own big explorable area.

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@loe12k: Just the way it is. Since 2013 the Xbox is the cool thing to hate on. **** em. I'm going to play gears and have some fun with friends.

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@Heil68: I pre ordered recore how about you? Heard good things from E3 but some bad as well.

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#19  Edited By SolidTy
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Well, like any game that hasn't released, developers use that time to improve their product.

Good luck to the brand new developers working on GeoW 4, as this is their very first videogame (They did practice buy porting EPICs GeOW 1 to Xbone though).

As a longtime GeoW owner and supporter, especially the Cliffy B. EPIC GeoW games which I reserved and bought day one (GeoW 1-3), I hope these guys deliver something that feels less of like a cover band project, and more like an amazing GeoW game I can proudly add to my sizeable Xbox collection.

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#20  Edited By kvally
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@SolidTy said:

Well, like any game that hasn't released, developers use that time to improve their product.

Good luck to the brand new developers working on GeoW 4, as this is their very first videogame (They did practice buy porting EPICs GeOW 1 to Xbone though).

As a longtime GeoW owner and supporter, especially the Cliffy B. EPIC GeoW games which I reserved and bought day one (GeoW 1-3), I hope these guys deliver something that feels less of like a cover band project, and more like an amazing GeoW game I can proudly add to my sizeable Xbox collection.

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Definitely not their very first videogame. Rod Fergusson (who was the executive producer and director of production on the first three Gears of War games at Epic) comes with a ton of experience, especially with GOW. They have a lot of experience in the studio including 5 of which came from EA, and the studio employees have an average of 12 years of experience each with AAA games when they formed it.

Should be of no surprise that Gears probably will not have ever been in better hands. New engine using Unreal 4 from the ground up, plenty of team experience making video games, Rod overseeing the project, a huge budget, and now a hugely successful alpha testing and popular debut of gameplay at this E3, it's sure to be EPIC.

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#21 Legend002
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Almost looks better than Gears 2 maps.

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#22 kvally
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@Legend002: Almost, but night and day better than the UC4 maps. Whew.

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#23 Legend002
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@kvally: lol

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#24 kvally
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@Legend002 said:

@kvally: lol

LOL

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#25 Legend002
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@silversix_ said:

Has finally reached Gears 3 visuals. Bravo.

You are giving it too much credit.

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#26  Edited By kvally
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@Legend002 said:
@silversix_ said:

Has finally reached Gears 3 visuals. Bravo.

You are giving it too much credit.

Imagine if it looked this bad...

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#27 Legend002
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@kvally: If only Gears 4 was half that good.

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#28  Edited By kvally
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@Legend002 said:

@kvally: If only Gears 4 was half that good.

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@kvally: blank post

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@Legend002 said:

@kvally: blank post

Thanks BlindLegend.

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#31  Edited By Legend002
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@kvally: Who's that? Certainly not part of the royal Legend family.

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#32 kvally
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@kvally: Who's that? Certainly not part of the royal Legend family.

I'm not sure...but he is very sly, very sneaky, a bit scrawny, shaves his taint, is blind as a bat, and enjoys his Lucky Charms with a 50/50 mix of milk and orange juice.

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@kvally: Cool story. Would read again.

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@Legend002 said:

@kvally: Cool story. Would read again.

Oh, and he likes stories.

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Looks like Gears of War Ultimate Edition is getting some DLC.

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#36 kvally
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:

Looks like Gears of War Ultimate Edition is getting some DLC.

Oh you Tormentos.

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#37 Legend002
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:

Looks like Gears of War Ultimate Edition is getting some DLC.

I thought it was Gears 1 on 360 getting dlc...

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@Legend002 said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:

Looks like Gears of War Ultimate Edition is getting some DLC.

I thought it was Gears 1 on 360 getting dlc...

Good to see them still supporting a 10 year old game.

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@Heil68: I pre ordered recore how about you? Heard good things from E3 but some bad as well.

Since I'm getting the Play Anywhere option, that's going to be a Digital Download and I didnt see need to pre-order since it will be available digitally.

For $40 I think it will provide good enough entertainment to warrant the purchase, but yeah, it come out mediocre, but I have high hopes.

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@Heil68 said:
@cainetao11 said:

@Heil68: I pre ordered recore how about you? Heard good things from E3 but some bad as well.

Since I'm getting the Play Anywhere option, that's going to be a Digital Download and I didnt see need to pre-order since it will be available digitally.

For $40 I think it will provide good enough entertainment to warrant the purchase, but yeah, it come out mediocre, but I have high hopes.

You're right, I jumped the gun and pre ordered it digitally. I thought it was some kind of special at $39.99 which is why I did it. I think it will have some fun but thinking a GS score of 6-7/10

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#42  Edited By dobzilian
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Gears 4 may push me to get PC or X1. 2 and 3 where fun. Didn't play the prequel or number 1.

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#43 Syn_Valence
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Again looks like shit, Lemits still blind still mad.

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#44  Edited By loe12k
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@dobzilian said:

Gears 4 may push me to get PC or X1. 2 and 3 where fun. Didn't play the prequel or number 1.

Get an xbox one if you're a console-controller type of player.

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Having played the beta quite a lot, these are actually pretty great improvements. They added in proper shadows, higher resolution textures, reflections, and environmental animations so it doesn't look as static.

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#46  Edited By SolidTy
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@kvally said:
@SolidTy said:

Well, like any game that hasn't released, developers use that time to improve their product.

Good luck to the brand new developers working on GeoW 4, as this is their very first videogame (They did practice buy porting EPICs GeOW 1 to Xbone though).

As a longtime GeoW owner and supporter, especially the Cliffy B. EPIC GeoW games which I reserved and bought day one (GeoW 1-3), I hope these guys deliver something that feels less of like a cover band project, and more like an amazing GeoW game I can proudly add to my sizeable Xbox collection.

GeoW collection in the upper left row
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Definitely not their very first videogame. Rod Fergusson (who was the executive producer and director of production on the first three Gears of War games at Epic) comes with a ton of experience, especially with GOW. They have a lot of experience in the studio including 5 of which came from EA, and the studio employees have an average of 12 years of experience each with AAA games when they formed it.

Should be of no surprise that Gears probably will not have ever been in better hands. New engine using Unreal 4 from the ground up, plenty of team experience making video games, Rod overseeing the project, a huge budget, and now a hugely successful alpha testing and popular debut of gameplay at this E3, it's sure to be EPIC.

It's definitely the studios first videogame. I will also provide three links in this post, and one of the links leads to more links depending on how deep you need to venture in the rabbit hole to learn GeoW history proper.

In fact, this brand new team were originally working on a new IP game, Kinect game, and a Flight game before EPIC sold GeoW and Roddy F was hired. Roddy F. changed the direction of this new team (Black Tusk Studios), and changed name of the studio from Black Tusk Studios to The Coalition (GeoW reference, much like 343 was a Halo reference). One man does not a studio make, but that being said you are also incorrect about Roddy F's involvement in GeoW. He was only promoted to Director of Production after GeoW 3. He was only a producer for the first three glorious 90+ metascoring, Cliffy B. Directed GeoW games.

New studios are just that, new studios. We don't pretend when a new studio starts up that the previous experience from each of the members somehow constitutes the studio as not new. This is their first videogame.

I've already corrected you on this before three months ago and posted links and work history as proof here:

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/gears-of-war-4whos-hyped-33086613/?page=2

Roddy F. was not the Director of Production for GeoW 1-3, he was only a producer.

Roddy F. was promoted to the director of Production for the lower metascoring and disappointing GeoW: Judgement (79/100 metascore) though. GeoW: J(udgement), which was the only GeoW game on 360 not directed by Cliffy B. and developed in house at EPIC. Rod was promoted presumably to fill the void left with a non-Cliffy B. directed GeoW game.

To have GeoW be in better hands would be back at EPIC and Cliffy B., but that's not going to happen (EPIC has moved in a different direction, and Cliffy B. is gone). I do agree that Roddy F was a good choice in helping lead this brand new team through the process, but ultimately I don't expect the EPIC level 90+ metascoring glory on this team's first videogame.

This brand new team did port EPIC's GeoW 1 (GeoW Ultimate) with Roddy F. at the helm and we already have an indicator of Roddy F. and this brand new teams ability (82/100 metascore).

As I said though, as a GeoW fan, I do hope GeoW 4 is delightful (I know the new team is learning from the Beta, GeoW Ultimate, and Roddy F.), but I certainly wouldn't bet GeoW 4 is going to top or match EPIC's GeoW Trilogy on their first try. New Team + Port Track Record + Roddy F.s track record + My time with the Beta = Decent game incoming, but not a day one buy $60 for me (but select reviews I trust and friends may change that perception).

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#47 kvally
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@SolidTy: we have noted your opinion and thank you for sharing.

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#48 SolidTy
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@kvally said:

@SolidTy: we have noted your opinion and thank you for sharing.

We have all noted your education and you are very welcome.

For the rest of the class that missed yesterday's notes:

https://ca.linkedin.com/in/rod-fergusson-8787736

Executive Producer

Epic Games

July 2005 – September 2011 (6 years 3 months)

That time frame of July 2005-Sept 2011 above encapsulates GeoW 1-3 development. It shows Rod was the only the Producer of the first three GeoW games, not the director of production.

GeoW3 released Sept 2011 which is when he left the position of producer. Rod was the producer.

Roddy F. was granted a promotion with GeoW: Judgement (79/100), the fourth entry in GeoW. GeoW J was developed by People Can Fly in Poland, sans EPIC in house and Cliffy B.

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#49  Edited By SolidTy
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@dobzilian said:

Gears 4 may push me to get PC or X1. 2 and 3 where fun. Didn't play the prequel or number 1.

Just remember, there is a brand new developer making GeoW 4. GeoW 2 and 3, the games you found fun, were developed in house at EPIC and by Cliffy B.

Roddy F produced those games and the lower scoring prequel GeoW: J (he also had a hand in directing for GeoW: J), and Roddy F's been brought on board to help this new team with their first game, but I'm sure you'll enjoy GeoW 4.

I played the GeoW 4 Beta on my Xbone, and it does feel like a proper GeoW game, although my favorite modes of GeoW were the teamplay of Execution and Warzone, which wasn't featured in the Beta. The TDM modes aren't as good as other FPS games imo.

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#50 kvally
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@SolidTy: you have failed twice in one sitting. Keep up the good work.