Gearbox has 'always profited from criticism' - Randy Pitchford (possibly fake)

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#1 Salt_The_Fries
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Aliens getting slammed by critics, Randy Pitchford tells us he hasn't looked over reviews but Gearbox has "always profited from criticism"

Source: https://twitter.com/GIBiz/status/301382292176257024

I work for the company. But don't let that fool you, I'm really an okay guy.

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#2 Neon_Noir
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Freaking Gearbox sucks so much.
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#3 Cherokee_Jack
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I didn't think badly of Randy Pitchford until now, but if he doesn't publicly apologize about the demo thing he'll look like a huge douche.

It's a good thing I don't care about Borderlands or BIA.

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#4 Salt_The_Fries
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I just realized it's bollocks. But nevermind, just join the fun :D
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#5 Salt_The_Fries
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Watch his speech from a week ago: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tpiWZDW62zM
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#6 DarkLink77
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I didn't think badly of Randy Pitchford until now, but if he doesn't publicly apologize about the demo thing he'll look like a huge douche.

It's a good thing I don't care about Borderlands or BIA.

Cherokee_Jack
Pretty much this. I don't think I've ever lost so much respect for a developer in such a short period of time. It's not even that they made a bad game. It's that they outright lied to people about it.
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#7 lamprey263
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he hasn't looked over the reviews my ass, they were already undergoing damage control within an hour or two of the 1AM PST review embargo lift, he went from making several Tweets a day to going silent... this is pretty pathetic
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#8 Cherokee_Jack
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Watch his speech from a week ago: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tpiWZDW62zMSalt_The_Fries

That's kind of sinister in hindsight.

Interesting talk anyway.

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#9 SuperNovaftw
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Freaking Gearbox sucks so much. Neon_Noir
They should have tested their game known it would suck they should have cancelled it. I dont understand how these devs make terrible games. First time is fine but second? Hell no.
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#10 Blazerdt47
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I don't believe Gearbox as a whole deserves this criticism. Randy Pitchford alone deserves it pretty much.

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#11 Cherokee_Jack
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They should have tested their game known it would suck they should have cancelled it.SuperNovaftw

Yeah, after spending millions of dollars in funding from Sega over several years, they should have said "Yeah, a few of us were playing this game, and we decided it isn't good enough, so we're just gonna......not give you any return on your investment? Cool?"

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#12 SuperNovaftw
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[QUOTE="SuperNovaftw"][QUOTE="Neon_Noir"]Freaking Gearbox sucks so much. Cherokee_Jack

They should have tested their game known it would suck they should have cancelled it.

Yeah, after spending millions of dollars in funding from Sega over several years, they should have said "Yeah, a few of us were playing this game, and we decided it isn't good enough, so we're just gonna......not give you any return on your investment? Cool?"

Better then selling somthing that wont even get any sales. Its as if they made the game the night before the deadline it sucks so bad. They should know it sucks and they should cancel and give the rest of the money to charity they dont deserve it. Dont try fvcking defending them unless you work for them.
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#13 Cherokee_Jack
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Better then selling somthing that wont even get any sales.SuperNovaftw

Yeah, getting zero money is sure better than getting not very much money.

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#15 Neon_Noir
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Pitchford scared of them pitchforks.
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#16 SuperNovaftw
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[QUOTE="SuperNovaftw"]Better then selling somthing that wont even get any sales.Cherokee_Jack

Yeah, getting zero money is sure better than getting not very much money.

Those sales will be from hardcore fans and not knowledgeable average joes who think the game looks good. Better to get no sales then to scam people 60$
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#17 finalfantasy94
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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]

[QUOTE="SuperNovaftw"]Better then selling somthing that wont even get any sales.SuperNovaftw

Yeah, getting zero money is sure better than getting not very much money.

Those sales will be from hardcore fans and not knowledgeable average joes who think the game looks good. Better to get no sales then to scam people 60$

Its part of the buisness world.

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#18 Cherokee_Jack
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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]

[QUOTE="SuperNovaftw"]Better then selling somthing that wont even get any sales.SuperNovaftw

Yeah, getting zero money is sure better than getting not very much money.

Those sales will be from hardcore fans and not knowledgeable average joes who think the game looks good. Better to get no sales then to scam people 60$

Yeah, Sega and Gearbox should have taken huge losses and probably fired a bunch of people to defend us from a game we might not like.
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#19 topgunmv
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I just realized it's bollocks. But nevermind, just join the fun :DSalt_The_Fries

If it's fake then you should change the title to reflect that.

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#20 jamejame
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I read Gearbox didn't even develop the campaign, only the multiplayer, which I've heard is fun. I'm not saying that makes the false advertsing alright, but they're still quality developers as far as I can tell.

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#21 jhcho2
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Well, Randy isn't wrong about what he said. When Gearbox made DNF, half of the sales were from diehard Duke fans who had to buy it no matter what. The other half was from gamers who wanted to check it out to see how bad it really was. It was almost akin to people buying 'Plan 9 From Outer Space' to see what the proclaimed worst movie of all time was like.

The thing is, when a game drastically falls short of expectation, and there is so much talk and controversy about it in the forums, people will just have to buy it and see for themselves. Admittedly, I bought RE6 just to see how bad it was. I am not an RE fan.

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#22 jsmoke03
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he's made good games and hes made bad ones...nothing new. self confidence borders on narcisism but whatever...

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#23 mAArdman
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they'll be able to do a lot of profiting, then

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[QUOTE="Neon_Noir"]Freaking Gearbox sucks so much. SuperNovaftw
They should have tested their game known it would suck they should have cancelled it. I dont understand how these devs make terrible games. First time is fine but second? Hell no.

I don't think Gearbox could just cancel it, not after they've strung along Sega for all these years. They'd be pissed.
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#25 ReadingRainbow4
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not liking gearbox much lately but this doesn't seem too legit to me.

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#26 DoomZaW
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I read Gearbox didn't even develop the campaign, only the multiplayer, which I've heard is fun. I'm not saying that makes the false advertsing alright, but they're still quality developers as far as I can tell.

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The problem from what i understood from that alleged former employee, was that gearbox originally worked on the title, until they became to occupied with Borderlands and DNF, at which point it was outsourced to timeline, who didn't like much of what gearbox had made in 2 years, and pretty much reworked everything. However when gearbox got the game back in their hands, they didn't like what Timeline had done, and basically started from scratch AGAIN. This is possibly also why the demo was so different from the actual game since the majority of the demo was what Timeline had done. Really shows how crap swapping developers back and forth is.
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#27 ReadingRainbow4
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[QUOTE="jamejame"]

I read Gearbox didn't even develop the campaign, only the multiplayer, which I've heard is fun. I'm not saying that makes the false advertsing alright, but they're still quality developers as far as I can tell.

DoomZaW

The problem from what i understood from that alleged former employee, was that gearbox originally worked on the title, until they became to occupied with Borderlands and DNF, at which point it was outsourced to timeline, who didn't like much of what gearbox had made in 2 years, and pretty much reworked everything. However when gearbox got the game back in their hands, they didn't like what Timeline had done, and basically started from scratch AGAIN. This is possibly also why the demo was so different from the actual game since the majority of the demo was what Timeline had done. Really shows how crap swapping developers back and forth is.

If that's to be believed then the Timeline version looked like a better game by far.

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#28 DoomZaW
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[QUOTE="DoomZaW"][QUOTE="jamejame"]

I read Gearbox didn't even develop the campaign, only the multiplayer, which I've heard is fun. I'm not saying that makes the false advertsing alright, but they're still quality developers as far as I can tell.

ReadingRainbow4

The problem from what i understood from that alleged former employee, was that gearbox originally worked on the title, until they became to occupied with Borderlands and DNF, at which point it was outsourced to timeline, who didn't like much of what gearbox had made in 2 years, and pretty much reworked everything. However when gearbox got the game back in their hands, they didn't like what Timeline had done, and basically started from scratch AGAIN. This is possibly also why the demo was so different from the actual game since the majority of the demo was what Timeline had done. Really shows how crap swapping developers back and forth is.

If that's to be believed then the Timeline version looked like a better game by far.

 

 

Found the article, sorry about mistaking developer name, it was Timegate (Section 8 developers)

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They should not have outsourced this game period
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#32 rrjim1
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Just received my copy last night and played for about three hours. IMO so far anyome that gave this game less that a 6 is a complete A hole!

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#33 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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This is turning out really bad for them, they need to settle a few things and come out with a proper statement or apology about the whole thing so gamers nkow what the sh!t happened. What we were shown and what we got were incredibly different, almost disgustingly so

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#34 Truth_Hurts_U
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They should not have outsourced this game periodThe_Last_Ride

In the credits there was something like 6+ studios that worked on the game. Took over 20 mins to watch it... All those people... For this quality of game.

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#35 WiiMan21
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This is turning out really bad for them, they need to settle a few things and come out with a proper statement or apology about the whole thing so gamers nkow what the sh!t happened. What we were shown and what we got were incredibly different, almost disgustingly so

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I agree, when a company is apathetic towards their fan base then it shows that they truly care. However the way they are going about everything shows that they don't.
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#36 Rattlesnake_8
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I didn't think badly of Randy Pitchford until now, but if he doesn't publicly apologize about the demo thing he'll look like a huge douche..

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This, I enjoyed BIA and Borderlands but after Aliens.. just wow. They clearly spent the money on Borderlands 2 making it a polished game yet Aliens looks worse than it did earlier, is riddled with bugs and Gearbox can't blame Timegate as Sega will then know Gearbox didn't actually spend the money building the game and will be in trouble. I had thought highly of Gearbox but after Aliens.. it makes me go back and doubt what they say about Duke Nukem. Maybe they had more to do with the end result than they let on seeing how bad Aliens turned out. That games do have a lot of similarities.
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#37 Heil68
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I'll wait to see if he has a statement, but it's not looking good for Gearbox.
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#38 lild1425
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That game was made by Gearbox????? I had no idea until now.

When it comes to developers, they have always been the Good Guy Greg's to me and one of my faves.